Another fake terrorist arrest in swing state of Ohio

This post was written by marc on June 15, 2004
Posted Under: Politics

This one looks as fishy as the rest that turned out to be fake. Fake terror alters and fake prosecutions put America at risk. The GOP is using this as an election tactic.

COLUMBUS, Ohio June 15, 2004 — Like thousands of fellow Somalis leaving behind brutal clan warfare, Nuradin Abdi settled in this city known for relatively mild weather, plentiful jobs and, in recent years, an abundance of shopping malls.

Just months after the government granted Abdi asylum, however, federal authorities say he was plotting to blow up one of those malls, exactly the type of target some feared would be next on terrorists’ lists. Attorney General John Ashcroft said charges revealed Monday against Abdi serve as a reminder that al-Qaida is determined “to hit the United States and hit us hard.”

But the portrait painted of Abdi by the government is in sharp contrast to the one offered by his family, who insist he is innocent and describe a man who hated terrorists.

Abdi, who operated a small cell phone business, loved his new freedoms and never spoke out against the U.S. government, said his brother Mohamed AbdiKarani, 17. Abdi has a son and daughter and his wife is pregnant.

“He loved it here. He never had as much freedom. He said it’s good to raise his kids here,” AbdiKarani said. “He really hated terrorists. You know how (President) Bush hates terrorists? I think he hates them more.”

Abdi is accused of conspiring with convicted al-Qaida operative Iyman Faris a former Columbus truck driver who sought to sabotage the Brooklyn Bridge to bomb a mall in the area, though the FBI said no specific mall was targeted.

Abdi, 32, was arrested at his apartment Nov. 28, the day after Thanksgiving when malls across America were crowded with shoppers. He was held at first on immigration violations, authorities said.

Charges in the four-count indictment include providing material support to al-Qaida, conspiracy to provide material support and document fraud. If convicted on all charges, Abdi could be sentenced to up to 80 years in prison and fined $1 million.

The FBI has warned al-Qaida might shift away from trying to hit tightly guarded installations, such as government buildings or nuclear plants, to more vulnerable targets such as malls, apartment buildings or hotels.

Court papers filed by the government allege that a plot dated to March 2000 when Abdi returned from a terrorist training camp in Ethiopia to join Faris in Columbus.

Reader Comments

You call it fake and an election tactic, but if something happened you’d cry a river about how nothing was done to stop it.

#1 
Written By Kim Brickell on June 15th, 2004 @ 11:05 am

I think you’re right Marc. Nothing is as it seems. In fact, I think you are a Bush propoganda plant, installed on purpose to make those of us who legitimately question the news think we are in fact wackos. You’re part of a vast planted conspiracy to get us few thinkers to think we’re crazy and so join the Republican demagogs.

#2 
Written By chris on June 15th, 2004 @ 12:04 pm

Kim, you hit the nail on the head.

Mark is completely unobjective in his complaints. Rest assured that anything that the Bush administration does or doesn’t do will always get the worst possible spin in Mark’s eyes.

This site’s purpose is to deliver as much negative spin and conjecture as possible against Bush and Republicans. Note how his site has bashed all republicans for years.

At least he’s honest enough to call himself a church – too bad he thinks it’s associated with reality.

It’s a shame that Mark can’t find positives about Kerry to talk about – the site (Might) then serve a useful purpose.

#3 
Written By Joe on June 15th, 2004 @ 1:22 pm

is there any proof available, (concrete evidence, i mean, not the insistances of his family) to support your argument? any at all? a smidge?

#4 
Written By jay on June 15th, 2004 @ 4:06 pm

Mance, do you have a real life or job?

#5 
Written By fred on June 16th, 2004 @ 5:50 pm

you all seem to assume guilt without evidence. Government evidence is sealed. Here is a quote from CNN “Abdi was granted asylum in America as a refugee in January 1999 after giving false information to immigration officials, the government charges.”
Notice, …”the government charges.” False information is a charge…not yet a fact until there is a trial. Cripes.
I am not assuming he is guilty. I guess the rules of democracy are only valid for white Europeans? The Resident Elect and his cronies will do anything to keep us scared and subservient.

#6 
Written By fred on June 16th, 2004 @ 6:01 pm

Mark…keep up the questioning. This administration needs to be exposed over and over again as has happened in the past months. The only way to save the lives of our children military in Iraq is to expose the corrupt and lying administration. Good job!
Seems no matter how many conspiracies are exposed…lies and more lies, we have those who are only willing to indict if there is a sperm stain on a dress. Eventually, this regime will fall.

#7 
Written By Joe on June 16th, 2004 @ 6:17 pm

Joe, do you have “concrete” eveidence of guilt.

#8 
Written By joe on June 16th, 2004 @ 6:32 pm

Mance, why don’t you spend your time at the neo-con sites? why do you bother to abuse at sites that do not hold your “values?”? You will not change our minds with rudeness. So, what gives? Are you bored?

#9 
Written By fred on June 16th, 2004 @ 7:31 pm

Joe and Fred, are you guys cracked. ALL the attacks against our interest since 1993. Nobody does a damn thing until the terrorist fly jets into buildings and kill over three thousand people on our soil (I lost my entire New York branch that day). For two years EVERYBODY was ranting and raving that they knew and never told us. Now EVERYBODY is ranting and raving that they are telling us, and it is all bullshit. Typical citizens, running around with their heads cut off.

Who got indicted for sperm on a dress? NOBODY. Who got indicted for PERJURY? Lying is lying. Under oath it is a crime, a punishable crime. None of you barbara streisand dingle berries were pissed when Mark Furman was indicted for perjury, just because he used the N-word. A freakin word, the man lost his job, pension, and right to vote … all because he lied about a word. But, if a rapist lies during a sexual harrassment trial about his sex habits, that is okay if he talks like liberal. In the words of the not-so-great Ireland (NOW). “I do not care what a man does, I care what he says”. I know rape is not something that the NOW promotes. But, if you talk like a liberal, they will over look it.

And Mance has to get a life???

#10 
Written By X-FREEPER on June 17th, 2004 @ 7:39 am

Recently, and even within the past few months, Bush has said that Saddam had no connection with 9/11.

But in a letter to congress, Bush said:

“I have also determined that the use of armed force against Iraq is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organiza-tions, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030321-5.html

So tell me, rightwingers, which direction is Bush going to flip-flop tomorrow? Is Bush lying to us now, or was he lying to Congress then?

Is lying to the American people about a beejay worse than lying to Congress?

#11 
Written By Mikelx on June 17th, 2004 @ 2:24 pm

Mikelx, good point. There seems to be no way to defend this flip-flopping. As well as the flipping on the issue are we safer from terrorists now (that we have invaded Iraq) report which caused Colin Powell to say “I am not a happy camper”. Twisted words and twisted people.

#12 
Written By allen on June 17th, 2004 @ 7:15 pm

Nice try Mikelx… reread what you posted, it says the use of force against Iraq is CONSISTENT WITH (meaning, along the same lines as…) using force against terrorist nations involved in Sept. 11th attack. All along they were saying Iraq was the next logical step because we wanted to fight terrorists BEFORE they come here (and there is all kinds of evidence that Iraq does have Al Queda ties). That’s what’s amazing to me about all of these bleeding-hearts – it will take another 3,500 people to lose their lives on our soil to wake them up again.

Has the Bush administration made mistakes, yes. Have the done everything perfect, no. But I have one question for you…

If you were a terrorist, who would you vote for?

Oh yeah, and lying to congress cannot be worse than lying under oath when you’ve been sworn in to uphold the laws of the land, can it?

#13 
Written By stick on June 18th, 2004 @ 8:29 am

Which is worse lying to the American people about a beejay, or lying to congress?

HMMM! Congress is the American people, so that part of your question is an oxymoron.

As for lying … I was taught it was wrong to lie. My parents never told me one was bad and one was good. I am teaching my kids the same. BUT, if I were forced to accept a lie, the big one is easier to accept. If you are going to lie, lie about something BIG, and IMPORTANT. NEVER lie about something that does not matter.

Lying in a sexual harrassment case while trying to establish the acts of a rapist is not the same as lying to the American people about a beejay.

In the movie THIEF James Cann asked Willie Nelson if he should tell the truth about his past to his fiance. Willie Nelson said, “Lie to no one because if you love them the lie will hurt them when they find out. And if you don’t love them, who the fuck are they that you have to lie to them.”

Quit trying to justify your liar for someone else’s liar.

#14 
Written By X-FREEPER on June 18th, 2004 @ 8:50 am

I see where Al Quida has announced that they have beheaded *another* hostage.

How long before Mark will claim that Bush faked this too?

At this rate Mark will have Bush the hidden leader of Al Quida before November.

#15 
Written By joey on June 18th, 2004 @ 12:21 pm

Yea, note that Paul Johnson was also wearing a orange jumpsuit, therefore by Perkel’s logic he must have also been beheaded at Al Garhib under Bush’s direct orders.

Those who buy into perkel’s conspiricy bullsh*t are the kind of people who think they know something of JFK’s assination because they saw the Oliver Stone movie.

A place for weak minds.

Details here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20040618/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_kidnapped_american

#16 
Written By orangejumpsuit on June 18th, 2004 @ 1:16 pm

It strikes me as odd that the inquiring minds who have analyzed the Berg video and Abu Ghraib photos in great detail have yet to point out that the orange jumpsuit Berg was wearing is completely different from what is used in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay. Instead they treat it like a smoking gun.

Johnson’s jumpsuit is, again, different from those used at Abu Ghraib, and different from Berg’s as well.

What this suggests to me is that the terrorists have been putting their American hostages in orange jumpsuits as a symbol. After all, the Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib are dressed in orange jumpsuits and have been treated like they were less than human, and it was only after the story of what was going on at Abu Ghraib broke that they started doing this.

#17 
Written By MadBlue on June 19th, 2004 @ 12:40 am

This is the first time I have visited this sight.I stumbled on it reading about the horrific fates of our citzens in Arab land. I just have to say a few things.
I fail to see ANY connection in the Clinton sex scandle and Bush’s reasoning for making our country a “first strike” power. Eveyone loves to bring up Clintons lie to the grand jury, interestingly enough, the grand jury had no business in asking Clinton anything about his sexual life, this is America and anybody over 21 has the right to have consensual sex with anybody 21 they want to, whether another agrees with it or not, none of their business. The question should never have been asked and Clinton should have said none of your business. Enough said about that.
This crap about torture..Governments have been extracting information from unwilling people for ever, using all kinds of tactics, drugs and pain are the most common ways. Not that any reasonable person would like to hear about this sort of thing, its been going on since the beginning of time. I am appauled at the fact that any of this stuff was photographed. It is unbelievable to me that these photos were allowed to be taken. I don’t consider making people lye naked, or lead around on leashes by women, or even made to lye on top of each other as torture. Its a technique, distasteful as it may be, it’s not torture. ( ripping finger nails off, slicing skin with knives, burning holes in ones body etc is torture) Just ask some of our Vietnam vets about torture.. Who the hell allowed pictures to be taken, who gave the orders to our troops to do these things, those who give the orders are the ones at fault, not the troops..Deep down inside we know where the orders came from..therfore the public will never know for sure. Coverup?? ofcourse..
I look at all the trouble in all the arab lands as being religious fanaticism. Governments run by religion..Those people are living in the dark ages because of their religion. Untill they install governments that believe in seperation of church and state they will always be the way they are, crazy, irrational, and dangerious.
The attack on these assholes in Afganistan was a reasonable response the the attack on our county, the attack on Iraq was one of the worst mistakes our country has made in its entire history. Bush has made the USA a first strike, aggresive county. Something I was taught by my father as being unthinkable. The usa would never strike a country first, not russia not anybody..I can see that this has changed, a lost value that has damaged our countrys principals and what it means to be an american. I am disgusted with all of this.
The fact that the Iraqi “militia” is killing their own people by scores everyday is enough for me to realize that these people are not worth one US solders death. I think we should just leave, let them kill themselves all over again. It is hardly our business to get involved in civil war over there. We are installing religious fanatics back into power there, will the new “constitution of iraq” have built in the seperation of church and state? Likely no, which to me means same shit, different time. Our “friends” the Saudi’s teach their children in school how the christion world is evil, therfore western countries are evil, is it any surprise with that kind of education that these people are growing up hating people? Hell no, again religious fanatics at work again.
I end this longwinded post with one thing, Thank God our forefathers recognized the importance of seperation of church and state, it is because of this ideal that we are as tollerant, and free as we are today.
I love my country, but hate the situation or leadership has put us in. We need to vote our idiot president out of office, and return to the ideals that made us strong and our way of life reveered by many.

#18 
Written By TimH on June 19th, 2004 @ 6:08 am

Mad Blue,

Interesting observations. What scares me is that the current Bush administraton seems to be bluring the line themselves between State and Church more each and everyday. If this trend continues, the Bush White House alliance with the far right and far rights partnership with Christian fundamentalism, in a generation America could be a Christian theocracy itself!

#19 
Written By charlie on June 19th, 2004 @ 6:02 pm

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