Leaning towards Kerry

This post was written by marc on August 12, 2004
Posted Under: Politics

In a nation where one party owns the press – the GOP – how do you tell what the polls really are. In 2000 all the polls showed Bush ahead of Gore but when the election happened Gore won the popular vote by 500,000 votes.

So – in this “too close to call” race – how do we know what’s really happening? Is the media covering up Kerry’s lead? I think so. Here’s why.

I look at where the battleground is. Remember that the base line is the last election. In all that states that Gore won – Kerry is safely ahead. In all the states that were close – Kerry is ahead in most of them. The rest are too close to call. And in states that Bush won in 2000 – several of them are now battleground states.

So – since technically Gore won the last election and Kerry is doing better – it’s looking good. However – there’s still those rigged voting machines and other dirty tricks yet to be played. Look for more talk of suspending elections or other power grabs. Kerry also has to get a 5 point lead just to compensate for GOP cheating.

Here’s an Electoral Vote site that shows the trend.

Reader Comments

Wilks, certainly your not at all surprised by perkels approach on this angle on this? Have you not really read the rest of his distortions of reality?

He and Michael Moore are of the ilk that regularly distort facts to try to spin the truth into a perspective they can then try to propogate.

If truth had actual meaning to people like this you would see perkel come out and confront Moore for his false editing in F9-11, but rest assured that is something you will never read here.

But you will read it elsewhere, including the actual press. Here’s a piece from a newspaper that was a victim of Michael Moore’s “editing”.


If you want truth rather than propaganda, you’re in the wrong place to find it here. This place is more of a liberal masturbation society.

Written By Just4TheRecord on August 12th, 2004 @ 9:22 pm

Here I will just name a few talking heads that have admited to being pro-republican: Chris matthews, Scourbrough*, Bill O’ Riley*, Katy Kurich*, Hannity and colms, Rush limbough, That douchebag on crossfire, and many others. My point is that Republicans do control the tv media.

Yes. “Liberial masturbation society” Its great that you took time to proove nothing besides micheal moore is a liberial, you have stated somthing that almost no one knew. Im so proud of you. If you want the real news whatch the daily show with John Stewart.

Oh’ BTW most media doesn’t really care about each canidate, they just follow up the stories that will get the most readers, and its a known fact that more liberials read than republicans even could. So newsweek probaly does show a more liberial side, and fox news shows a conservetive side.
(*=spelling errors)

Written By Joshua gillogly on August 13th, 2004 @ 5:03 am

Everybody seems to know what GOP means, so nobody takes the effort to write the actual meaning of the term GOP. Not even the guys at the official site.

Somebody better tell me what the fuck GOP means, ’cause I’m losing it over here.

Written By Jay the Avenger on August 13th, 2004 @ 6:02 am

i have noticed the most republicans see either black or white. if you don’t agree with them, you must be a liberal, regardless if you’re green, independant, whig, etc. if some folk say that perkel ‘spins’ the truth, than you must concede that this current administration has done the same. to call it on one person or party and not on the current administration would make you a hypocrite. i did not name any names, but if the shoe fits, wear it. i wear a size eight, ladies 😉

Written By charlie chingas on August 13th, 2004 @ 9:22 am

Another projection site with Bushier numbers — http://www.ElectionProjection.com/elections2004.html — somebody’s methods are biased.

Written By Alex Libman on August 14th, 2004 @ 3:33 am

“If you want the real news whatch the daily show with John Stewart. ”

Jon Stewart would laugh at you for years if he ever read that. It’s a FAKE NEWS SHOW, you moron! He says it all the time! And that’s a democratic fuckfest if I ever saw one. Bill Maher and his series are the same way. And I’ll concede that there a few more real conservatives on TV liberals only if you concede that there are many, many more liberal journalists and newspapers/magazines than conservative ones.

Written By Mance on August 14th, 2004 @ 10:00 am

Mance im glad you got why I put that up there, I whatch it more then you, and he pretty much says it to every guest. What I’m talking about is you get better news from john stewart than anywhere else, even tho he is “fake news” he provides more facts and information than any “real news” repoter ever could.

Mance than prove to me, tell me these news journalists and newspaper/magizine writiers.

Written By Josh Gillogly on August 14th, 2004 @ 11:27 am

Just because you voted green party doesn’t mean your not liberial. The green party is an extreme version of the democratic party.

Written By Josh Gillogly on August 14th, 2004 @ 11:30 am

welcome back mance, haven’t seen you since you got the red ass for corrected someone mispelling assassinated… and now you have come back to comment on joshuas sarcastic comment. and joshua does make a point with the comment. obviously it rubbed you the wrong way. do yo have high blood pressure? seems like it…

Written By charlie chingas on August 14th, 2004 @ 5:24 pm

I didn’t realize that you were all so lost without me. But, I shall continue to grace you with my presence until Perkel’s complete and total stupidity forces me away, again.

“So – since technically Gore won the last election”

No. Kerry did not win the last election. He did not technically win the last election. He won the popular vote. However, that is not how we elect presidents.

US Constitution rticle II, Section 1, Paragraph 3

“The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President.”

The electors choose the President FIN. That is it. Oh, and by the way…

“Bush did not win Florida. Neither did Gore. Nobody won the election in Florida… the Supreme Court in a Supreme act of Treason to the Constitution stopped the election process…”

That’s from Marc’s August 10th entry “Bush Did Not Win Florida.” So, how did Gore technically win if no one won the election? You’re flip-flopping, Marc.

Written By Mance on August 14th, 2004 @ 10:10 pm

“But, I shall continue to grace you with my presence until Perkel’s complete and total stupidity forces me away, again”. i think you were just buying some time cuz u got the red ass for correcting somones spelling… i get your blood boils when you come to this site. all that scar tissue that you’re creating, raising your blood pressure.. and by responding you my post just proves me right.. ass… moron. mance is an ass moron. bring it on! all of you neocons! four more years… yeah, for more years of lies, deceptions.. i’m sooooooooooo glad that i fought and served my coountry so that you dumb fucks can enjoy the first amendment.. for now… come one!… lol.. this is sooooooooo much fun.. i love this site!!!!

Written By charlie chingas on August 14th, 2004 @ 10:14 pm

uhm, he went through the impeachment process, but was never impeached… now you’re the liar.. r u jealous cuz clington got some? that sex lie did not kill anyone…

Written By charlie chingas on August 14th, 2004 @ 10:39 pm

“No. Kerry did not win the last election. He did not technically win the last election. He won the popular vote. However, that is not how we elect presidents.”

Yes thinks for pointing out kerry did not win the last election, but he didn’t win the popular vote either, because in 2000, he was not running.
I know you ment gore, but after trying to correct anyone with errors in there comments I felt obligated to do so to you.

wilks, You do know the only reason clinton got into all that media mess, is because the republicans looked into his personal life, and got a hard on by it. to me going to war and killing over 1000 americans and lieing about the reason is alot worse then a president who likes to get his dick sucked.

Written By Joshua Gillogly on August 15th, 2004 @ 5:51 am

wilks, link please.. back up your shit, like all your king always say… but that’s all you could focus on: his blow job… why are you people obessesed with clinton??? yeah, yeah, the truth…

Written By charlie chingas on August 16th, 2004 @ 9:47 pm

Its getting sick how much republicans want to refer back to clinton, its like kerry isnt the person running, its clinton again. They can’t come up with any real facts about kerry thats bad, so they have to come back with “well clinton had a sex scandal” its fucking sick.

Written By Joshua gillogly on August 17th, 2004 @ 4:45 am

damn, you must really get off on this site. is your kb sticky? i bet you have one of them kb protectors. i said link, NOT excerpt. and i thought the whole controversy was about the repub hard-on to soil his name. all that money they spent on trying to find him of something guilty. they spent less money trying to find osama. and again, why do you keep focusing on his ‘impeachment’? you must have a hard-on too…

Written By charlie chingas on August 17th, 2004 @ 4:49 pm

Chingas, all you seem capable of doing is making nonsensical sexual jokes whenever someone proves you wrong. Wilks copy and pasted FROM THE GOD DAMNED CONSTITUTION. If you’re too damned stupid to go to Google and find a link to the US Constitution and verify whay he said, then you’re–well, as dumb as I expected. Here’s your link.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlei.html#section2 That takes you to section 2. Read the final clause to find Wilks’ quote.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlei.html#section3 There’s section three. The 7th paragraph contains Wilks’ other quote.

While you’re at the site, you might want to read the rest of it, since you seem to be pretty uneducated in the area of the constitution.

And it’s also hilarious that when I make a post that completely destroys Perkel’s argument and validates my entire point and all you can do is spiral into bad jokes about blood pressure and sex. If you are the kind of person that I have to respect for “defending my 1st amendment rights” then I’d gladly give them up if it meant giving you a punch to the throat and a kick to the balls.

Written By Mance on August 17th, 2004 @ 7:57 pm

you’re the one to call someone stupid, mance. if i recall, you wrongly corrected someone on the spelling of assassination. typical. calling the kettly black. and if i tell you where i live, will you come over so i can kick your ass? then again, you may be all talk. i doubt you’ll come over. you’ll just say it’s a waste of your time. and i am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that i irk you SOOOOOOO much. if not, you sure are wasting a lot of time replying to me…ass…

Written By charlie chingas on August 17th, 2004 @ 8:33 pm

plus, i’m not as obessed with clinton as you guys are. it’s over with get over.. you gonna blame the extinction of the dinosaurs on him too?

Written By charlie chingas on August 17th, 2004 @ 8:34 pm

and for those voting for bush, here’s what you’re voting for…http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2646755

the one where he explains ‘sovereignty’. yeah, what a brain…

Written By charlie chingas on August 17th, 2004 @ 8:38 pm

“If you are the kind of person that I have to respect for “defending my 1st amendment rights” then I’d gladly give them up if it meant giving you a punch to the throat and a kick to the balls.” would you say that to any other veteran, be it from vietnam, panama, gulf war, current war, if they act like that towards you? were you in the military, or did you have better things to do? you have yet to earn my respect, and i can care less if i have yours. if you continue to respond to my posts, that just means that i am getting to you. you really think you can change anyone’s mind here? does coming here and acting like you know everything make you feel better? this is a site where a guy posts a news bit and gives his two cents about it. then you come in all rough and tough and correcting people on there spelling about assassinated. your are an ass.. and marc, thanks for the outlet on letting most of us tweak people like mance and wilks…

Written By charlie chingas on August 17th, 2004 @ 10:38 pm

and btw, i’ve known all along about what impeachment means. was wondering how long i can string wilks along, but seems that you, mance, decided to play as well. that hoop was meant for wilks, but thanks for playing mance! don’t go around asasasinating anyone now!

Written By charlie chingas on August 18th, 2004 @ 9:58 am

Real clever, pretending you knew what you were talking about. And for someone that doesn’t care, you sure posted a lot of times (five, actually) to respond to my last.

“were you in the military, or did you have better things to do?” It’s called growing up, you dipshit. My father served in the military (Captain, US Army Air Corps, Ret.), and honorably. And if I were ever faced with a Veteran with your disdain for America, I’d tell them the exact same thing.

And my father, honorably discharged, receiving pension, awarded two purple hearts, a silver star, and a bronze star, isn’t a pompous, unintelligent, America-hating person like you. I showed him what I said, and he laughed and agreed.

Written By mance on August 18th, 2004 @ 6:53 pm

so you’re catholic? fuck me? i guess that does make you catholic!!! homo. oh, you really told me. man, put me in my place. 20 years from now you’ll look back and say ‘damn, that guy was an ass’. do you really think i care i what i seem like or how i come across? adn what, mance can’t speak for himself? but you know, that explains the childish comments about the spelling. why not bring that up? fucking kid. yeah, respond to this. i dare. we can go back and forth all day. all fucking day. to me you’re a religious zealot and i can care less what u think of me. you guys come here trying to make a difference? figures, too young to make a real difference. so you go to certain blogs and strut your stuff. and for the record. i too have a few medals, and gulf war syndrome. i have the upmost respect for mance’s dad, regardless of his political views or religious beliefs. anyone who has served in the military or in a war for that matter, automatically has my respect. they are yes sir and no sir to me. they know what sacrifice is. catholic. explains a lot. so you’re catholic? you believe in what the bible says? explain to me why it was ok in the beginning for incest to exist: adam fucking her kids to procreate. explain to me why the vatican moved all those child molestors for the past 40 or so years. do you believe that the earth is 10,000 years old? what about the dinosaurs? i bet you’re one of those pick and choose catholics, so it does not make you a real catholic. most closely, a protestant. wrong church kid. i can piss you off all day, but i get off on pissig people off. why? because i can. catholic. fuck me. yeah, you’re catholic. wanting to fuck another man….

Written By charlie chingas on August 18th, 2004 @ 7:41 pm

did not read what your father said. wow. oh well. there’s a 50/50 chance you made that up. do i care? actually, no. are you a snot nosed punk? not really. you have some growing up to do. but seems daddy has raised his sheep prettly well..

Written By charlie chingas on August 18th, 2004 @ 7:48 pm

Bored, I have been fighting to restrain myself on this post. I would love to take out my flame thrower and torch these guys. But, to argue about the former Rapist-in-Chief seems kind of senseless. The Democrats will ALWAYS coddle that guy.

Written By THE TRUTH on August 19th, 2004 @ 8:31 am

i myself do not think highly of the guy who got a bj from the fat chick that brought in the mail. or any president before that. why rehash that old crap? i think the Dems get bent out of shape when something bad is said of him. i’m no support of the current pResident either. and like i said before: take what u read here with a grain of salt. it’s an entertaining site.

Written By charlie chingas on August 19th, 2004 @ 9:32 am

With the exception of Reagan and Kennedy they have all been traitors since 1913. The next president that I will support will be the one that does not want the job. The guy we DRAFT instead of elect. Find me a guy who says he does not want the job, that is the guy I want. If you want the job, you are a crook. The only reason that you would want the job is to misuse the power. If we all wrote in Ron Paul’s name, and he excepted … I would support that.

Written By THE TRUTH on August 19th, 2004 @ 9:54 am

interesting you bring up regean and kennedy, republican and democrat. many people that i have spoken with, dem or repub, have agreed to some point that the aforementioned presidents were the best in their party. who is ron paul?

Written By charlie chingas on August 19th, 2004 @ 10:32 am

Ron Paul is a congressman from Texas. He serves as a Republican. Years ago he ran for President as a libertarian. He writes a weekly column on his own web site. The man was is medical doctor (that is who I want telling me how to fix health care). Here is his link. He is the best of what Reagan was and the best of what Kennedy was. So much so, I am surprised he has survived in this government. There is not another man in the political arena at this time who is capable, nor with the character to do the job. But, like Reagan and Kennedy, he will never be allowed to.

Here is the link to his weekly column …


Written By THE TRUTH on August 19th, 2004 @ 4:44 pm

Chimmi, go to Ron’s site and read his columns dated 04/26/04 and 02/23/04. Talk to you later

Written By THE TRUTH on August 19th, 2004 @ 5:03 pm

hey truth, thanks for the link. i’ve added it to my bookmarks. take it ez…

Written By charlie chingas on August 19th, 2004 @ 7:07 pm

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