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		<title>By: charlie chingas</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie chingas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, that makes me feel, kinda awkard. i barely know you...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, that makes me feel, kinda awkard. i barely know you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tomocius</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2004/08/31/most-rnc-speakers-are-pro-choice/#comment-3701</link>
		<dc:creator>tomocius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last comment was just for you</description>
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		<title>By: charlie chingas</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie chingas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>somehow, my respond disappears. as well as some other ones. do i sense a controlled atmosphere? anyhow, thanks for the reply tom. that's what i wanted to read instead of you giving statistics. stats don't mean crap because they can always be used to suit ones needs. and that last remark: that's funny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>somehow, my respond disappears. as well as some other ones. do i sense a controlled atmosphere? anyhow, thanks for the reply tom. that&#8217;s what i wanted to read instead of you giving statistics. stats don&#8217;t mean crap because they can always be used to suit ones needs. and that last remark: that&#8217;s funny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tomocius</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2004/08/31/most-rnc-speakers-are-pro-choice/#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>tomocius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHOA! I NEVER said anything about prostitution. All I said was the word hooker apperas in the dictionary definition of the word CHOICE. Where did all of the talk of prostitution come from. Peter, go read my post again. 

Charlie, you want to know where I stand on the abortion issue. I think that I told you. I do not have a problem with a woman having an abortion, nor do I have a problem with the person that is performing the abortion. I think that it is wrong, and that my God is totally offended by it. As I said before God will sort them out. In a world where abortions have been introduced, it will never go away. If a woman wants to have one I do not think that my tax dollars should go towards paying for her abortion. I believe that if a woman is going to have an abortion she NEEDS to be provided with a sterile environment so that the procedure is done correctly and safely. BUT, I will always champion the cause of convincing women that there is better way. Be realistic, no woman WANTS to have an abortion. I have never heard a girl say, "When I grow up I want to have an abortion" It is not something that they want, it is something that they feel they need.

Another thing, if a woman tells me that if she gets pregnant she would have an abortion I would tell her, "instead of having it sucked out of you, why don't you just suck it out of me."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOA! I NEVER said anything about prostitution. All I said was the word hooker apperas in the dictionary definition of the word CHOICE. Where did all of the talk of prostitution come from. Peter, go read my post again. </p>
<p>Charlie, you want to know where I stand on the abortion issue. I think that I told you. I do not have a problem with a woman having an abortion, nor do I have a problem with the person that is performing the abortion. I think that it is wrong, and that my God is totally offended by it. As I said before God will sort them out. In a world where abortions have been introduced, it will never go away. If a woman wants to have one I do not think that my tax dollars should go towards paying for her abortion. I believe that if a woman is going to have an abortion she NEEDS to be provided with a sterile environment so that the procedure is done correctly and safely. BUT, I will always champion the cause of convincing women that there is better way. Be realistic, no woman WANTS to have an abortion. I have never heard a girl say, &#8220;When I grow up I want to have an abortion&#8221; It is not something that they want, it is something that they feel they need.</p>
<p>Another thing, if a woman tells me that if she gets pregnant she would have an abortion I would tell her, &#8220;instead of having it sucked out of you, why don&#8217;t you just suck it out of me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: charlie chingas</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2004/08/31/most-rnc-speakers-are-pro-choice/#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie chingas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 03:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know many christians that preach the word of jesus, that jesus is their saviour, yet when it comes to prostitutes, colored folks, liberals, those that don't agree with there tunnel-like point of view, you can almost see the hatred spew from their mouths... is that what jesus would do? i guess so, because isn't it the point to be as christ-like as possible, bein a christian and all???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know many christians that preach the word of jesus, that jesus is their saviour, yet when it comes to prostitutes, colored folks, liberals, those that don&#8217;t agree with there tunnel-like point of view, you can almost see the hatred spew from their mouths&#8230; is that what jesus would do? i guess so, because isn&#8217;t it the point to be as christ-like as possible, bein a christian and all???</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomocius...

The issues of abortion and prostitution are separate issues.  There are many women who get abortions who are not prostitutes - as in, they didn't get pregnant by getting paid to have sex.

But speaking of prostitutes... It would just make way more sense if the whole prosititution industry were legalized and regulated like in Germany (where hookers must get tested regularly, are unionized and get assigned places to work by the police).  Also instead of spending money controlling prostitution ('cause you're never going to eliminate it), you'd end up generating money for the government because it brings sex workers into the system - and with that comes tax revenues.

It's not like any 'head-in-the-sand' police crackdown ever did or ever will make it go away.  Prostitution is a profession that goes back thousands of years.

I'm not debating what's morally right or wrong, people should decide that for themselves.  I'm just stating what is realistic.  If you don't like prostitutes... fine, don't give any business to them.  If you don't like abortion, then don't get one.

But this mentality of 'my views should be everyones view' - and then using religion as justification - has to stop or at least be controlled.  That attitude is way more dangerous than a hooker with no other options (and in many cases, no help for a drug addiction) trying to survive on the streets - or some kid who is in no way ready to be a parent having an abortion.

Everyone says they are "Good Christians", but when the time comes to help those in need (like hookers), they behave like they believe in nothing based on their actions.

It's easy to kick someone while they're down - it's not so easy to help someone get back on their feet - and hookers, partly due to the legal status of prostitution - are usually people who are down and out.

So the next time you decide to kick someone (or a group of people) who is already down, ask yourself if Jesus would have done that.  (HINT: the answer is "NO!" - Think I'm wrong?  Mary Magdeline is proof that I'm right.  Did Jesus kick her while she was down?  NO - he helped her.  That's what a REAL Christian does).

So as one Christian to another... lose the self-righteous-judgemental tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomocius&#8230;</p>
<p>The issues of abortion and prostitution are separate issues.  There are many women who get abortions who are not prostitutes - as in, they didn&#8217;t get pregnant by getting paid to have sex.</p>
<p>But speaking of prostitutes&#8230; It would just make way more sense if the whole prosititution industry were legalized and regulated like in Germany (where hookers must get tested regularly, are unionized and get assigned places to work by the police).  Also instead of spending money controlling prostitution (&#8217;cause you&#8217;re never going to eliminate it), you&#8217;d end up generating money for the government because it brings sex workers into the system - and with that comes tax revenues.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like any &#8216;head-in-the-sand&#8217; police crackdown ever did or ever will make it go away.  Prostitution is a profession that goes back thousands of years.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not debating what&#8217;s morally right or wrong, people should decide that for themselves.  I&#8217;m just stating what is realistic.  If you don&#8217;t like prostitutes&#8230; fine, don&#8217;t give any business to them.  If you don&#8217;t like abortion, then don&#8217;t get one.</p>
<p>But this mentality of &#8216;my views should be everyones view&#8217; - and then using religion as justification - has to stop or at least be controlled.  That attitude is way more dangerous than a hooker with no other options (and in many cases, no help for a drug addiction) trying to survive on the streets - or some kid who is in no way ready to be a parent having an abortion.</p>
<p>Everyone says they are &#8220;Good Christians&#8221;, but when the time comes to help those in need (like hookers), they behave like they believe in nothing based on their actions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to kick someone while they&#8217;re down - it&#8217;s not so easy to help someone get back on their feet - and hookers, partly due to the legal status of prostitution - are usually people who are down and out.</p>
<p>So the next time you decide to kick someone (or a group of people) who is already down, ask yourself if Jesus would have done that.  (HINT: the answer is &#8220;NO!&#8221; - Think I&#8217;m wrong?  Mary Magdeline is proof that I&#8217;m right.  Did Jesus kick her while she was down?  NO - he helped her.  That&#8217;s what a REAL Christian does).</p>
<p>So as one Christian to another&#8230; lose the self-righteous-judgemental tone.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that the right to life in the United States extends from conception to birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that the right to life in the United States extends from conception to birth.</p>
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		<title>By: ilya shlyakhter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilya shlyakhter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's interesting is that conservatives say: if you refuse to forbid abortion (gay marriage, ...) you're personally responsible for any resulting immorality.  

but when conservatives refuse to forbid assault weapons (unsafe products, ...), they're not responsible for any resulting harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s interesting is that conservatives say: if you refuse to forbid abortion (gay marriage, &#8230;) you&#8217;re personally responsible for any resulting immorality.  </p>
<p>but when conservatives refuse to forbid assault weapons (unsafe products, &#8230;), they&#8217;re not responsible for any resulting harm.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie chingas</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie chingas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if people are so anti-abortion and don't want them depending on the government because the government is not the asnwer to everyone's problem, then why not adopt a child yourself? also, you are contradicting yourself by trying to make a point. you seem to be flip-flopping, but that's how I see it. In another post you complained that liberals have killed more fetus' then saddam, hitler and the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs put together (before u go on a tangent about the meteor, the meteor was only a part of, ie, disease, etc)? So are u saying that all affluent people are liberals? What about if the woman is raped? I want your view, not some statistics. What are your views on abortion? No statistics please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if people are so anti-abortion and don&#8217;t want them depending on the government because the government is not the asnwer to everyone&#8217;s problem, then why not adopt a child yourself? also, you are contradicting yourself by trying to make a point. you seem to be flip-flopping, but that&#8217;s how I see it. In another post you complained that liberals have killed more fetus&#8217; then saddam, hitler and the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs put together (before u go on a tangent about the meteor, the meteor was only a part of, ie, disease, etc)? So are u saying that all affluent people are liberals? What about if the woman is raped? I want your view, not some statistics. What are your views on abortion? No statistics please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tomocius</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomocius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Charlie, abortions are performed on more affluent people than you would believe. It is more often the career minded professional that does not want to give up her career. Poor women tend to not be able to afford them.

But your question is what about after the birth? Government can care for the kid, educate them, feed them , clothe them, provide them with health care, and provide them with jobs. Why is the government the answer for everyone else why not the aborted kid. If the child grows up to be an unproductive member of society we always have the LATE LATE TERM ABORTION (capital punishment) to fall back on.

Here is another way to look at this issue. Democrats are for stem cell research, as am I (does that make me moderate Wills). Now maybe the stem cell research will cure some illness. How about the thought that just one of the aborted fetuses might have cured cancer, or alzheimer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Charlie, abortions are performed on more affluent people than you would believe. It is more often the career minded professional that does not want to give up her career. Poor women tend to not be able to afford them.</p>
<p>But your question is what about after the birth? Government can care for the kid, educate them, feed them , clothe them, provide them with health care, and provide them with jobs. Why is the government the answer for everyone else why not the aborted kid. If the child grows up to be an unproductive member of society we always have the LATE LATE TERM ABORTION (capital punishment) to fall back on.</p>
<p>Here is another way to look at this issue. Democrats are for stem cell research, as am I (does that make me moderate Wills). Now maybe the stem cell research will cure some illness. How about the thought that just one of the aborted fetuses might have cured cancer, or alzheimer?</p>
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