Atheist Church Challenges Theists on Morality of Torture

This post was written by marc on September 23, 2006
Posted Under: Religion

The Church of Reality today has issued an edict challenging other religions to speak out against the Bush administration plan to legalize torture in the United States. The Church of Reality is a church based on believing in everything that is real and does not recognize the existence of any deities. In this edict the Church of Reality claims to have a superior moral position to that of God believing religions such as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam stating that it is the only religion that takes a strong position against torture as part of their official doctrine.

“We are Atheists”, claims Marc Perkel, founder of the Church of Reality. “Yet we have developed a stronger and more sophisticated set of moral values than religions that are supposedly inspired by omnipotent deities. If these deities actually exist then why can’t they keep up with the Atheists? We in the Church of Reality clearly understand that legalizing torture is clearly wrong and we are willing to take a strong position against it. The Theists however seem to be confused and unclear about if torture is right or wrong. We in the Church of Reality are challenging believers to pray about it to see if their God is as wise as we mortal Realists are.”

Perkel admits that part of the reason his edict is so provocative is to inspire debate within the theistic world and get them inspired to take a position against Bush’s plan to legalize secret torture camps in foreign countries who allow torture. “We in the Church of Reality are strongly against this and we are trying to get the attention of our fellow religions to get on board with this issue.”, says Perkel. “We want them to share in the glory of doing good things for the human race.”

In the edict the Church of Reality vows to remember the lessons learned from the concentration camps set up by the Nazis in Germany during World War II and sees Bush’s torture camps as a dangerous first step in that direction. “This looks like the Holocaust to me”, says Perkel who was raised Jewish. “Judaism never impressed me much. But I do remember seeing people with numbers tattooed on their forearms from being Hitler’s prisoners. What amazes me is why the Jews aren’t ahead of me on this.”

Here is a link to the new edict challenging religions to decree torture to be imoral.

Here is a previous edict denouncing the legalization of torture by the United States:

Please feel free to contact me. I will debate any religious leader live on this issue. I ask everyone to spread this challenge to every place you can. Please post this everywhere. We can not afford for America to become the next Nazi Germany.

Marc Perkel
First One
Church of Reality

Reader Comments

Hello Marc and all,

Why do religious leaders and followers so often participate in and support blatant evil?

History is replete with examples of religious leaders and followers advocating, supporting, and participating in blatant evil. Regardless of attempts to shift or deny blame, history clearly records the widespread crimes of Christianity. Whether we’re talking about the abominations of the Inquisition, Crusades, the greed and genocide of colonizers, slavery in the Americas, or the Bush administration’s recent deeds and results, Christianity has always spawned great evil. The deeds of many Muslims and the state of Israel are also prime examples.

The paradox of adherents who speak of peace and good deeds contrasted with leaders and willing cohorts knowingly using religion for evil keeps the cycle of violence spinning through time. Why does religion seem to represent good while always serving as a constant source of deception, conflict, and the chosen tool of great deceivers? The answer is simple. The combination of faith and religion is a strong delusion purposely designed to affect one’s ability to reason clearly. Regardless of the current pope’s duplicitous talk about reason, faith and religion are the opposite of truth, wisdom, and justice and completely incompatible with logic.

Religion, like politics and money, creates a spiritual, conceptual, and karmic endless loop. By their very nature, they always create opponents and losers which leads to a never ending cycle of losers striving to become winners again, ad infinitum. This purposeful logic trap always creates myriad sources of conflict and injustice, regardless of often-stated ideals, which are always diluted by ignorance and delusion. The only way to stop the cycle is to convert or kill off all opponents or to end the systems and concepts that drive it.

Think it through, would the Creator of all knowledge and wisdom insist that you remain ignorant by simply believing what you have been told by obviously duplicitous religious founders and leaders? Would a compassionate Creator want you to participate in a system that guarantees injustice and suffering to your fellow souls? Isn’t it far more likely that religion is a tool of greedy men seeking to profit from the ignorance of followers and the strife it constantly foments? When you mix religion with the equally destructive delusions of money and politics, injustice, chaos, and the profits they generate are guaranteed.

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Written By Seven Star Hand on September 23rd, 2006 @ 8:00 pm

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