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	<title>Comments on: Fedora 7 is a flop</title>
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		<title>By: Cezary</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5048</link>
		<dc:creator>Cezary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, i acknowledge, Fedora 7 network install does not work. I have the same error:

"Unable to retrieve &lt;a href="http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img&lt;/a&gt; . "

Did not hear anybody succesed FC7 network install .


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, i acknowledge, Fedora 7 network install does not work. I have the same error:</p>
<p>&#8220;Unable to retrieve <a href="http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img" rel="nofollow">http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img</a> . &#8221;</p>
<p>Did not hear anybody succesed FC7 network install .</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5047</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago I gave up on the Red Hat since it refused to install on any of my hardware (not very Linux like if you ask me) and in some cases taking more than an hour to tell me it could/would not intall. I figured things have changed by now... dream on. I tried the network install with minimal boot CD just as gman described above. No matter which mirror site I plug in I get the same response: "Unable to retrieve &lt;a href="http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img&lt;/a&gt; . "
Notice the second slash after the server name? I can't get it to stop putting that in there, and if  it is truly putting that in there it explains why it can't retrieve the file - duh.  Trying the ftp options fails even quicker without any error message.

So here I was, looking forward to finding out how much they may have fixed their botched install routines and I can't even get to them.  What a piece of crap. Still.

If you want to see a network install of linux that has worked unbelieveably smoothly on EVERY piece of hardware I've tried it on, try the latest (now stable) release of Debian Etch.  What a dream!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I gave up on the Red Hat since it refused to install on any of my hardware (not very Linux like if you ask me) and in some cases taking more than an hour to tell me it could/would not intall. I figured things have changed by now&#8230; dream on. I tried the network install with minimal boot CD just as gman described above. No matter which mirror site I plug in I get the same response: &#8220;Unable to retrieve <a href="http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img" rel="nofollow">http://mirrors.whatever.utry//fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/stage2.img</a> . &#8221;<br />
Notice the second slash after the server name? I can&#8217;t get it to stop putting that in there, and if  it is truly putting that in there it explains why it can&#8217;t retrieve the file - duh.  Trying the ftp options fails even quicker without any error message.</p>
<p>So here I was, looking forward to finding out how much they may have fixed their botched install routines and I can&#8217;t even get to them.  What a piece of crap. Still.</p>
<p>If you want to see a network install of linux that has worked unbelieveably smoothly on EVERY piece of hardware I&#8217;ve tried it on, try the latest (now stable) release of Debian Etch.  What a dream!!</p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5046</link>
		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain.

I struggled with that same issue. I searched for a way to try installing from a USB drive but that was nearly impossible as well without an already working linux box to do it from.

Finally I stumbled on installing over HTTP through the minimal boot.iso

ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/boot.iso

burn that to a CD, boot it, when asked for download info enter the domain of one of the http mirrors on this page

&lt;a href="http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist&lt;/a&gt;

In the first box enter just the name.domain (no &lt;a href="http://)" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://)&lt;/a&gt; and in the second type the path. For the mirror I used "fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os" worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain.</p>
<p>I struggled with that same issue. I searched for a way to try installing from a USB drive but that was nearly impossible as well without an already working linux box to do it from.</p>
<p>Finally I stumbled on installing over HTTP through the minimal boot.iso</p>
<p><a href="ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/boot.iso" rel="nofollow">ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/images/boot.iso</a></p>
<p>burn that to a CD, boot it, when asked for download info enter the domain of one of the http mirrors on this page</p>
<p><a href="http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist" rel="nofollow">http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist</a></p>
<p>In the first box enter just the name.domain (no <a href="http://)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://" rel="nofollow">http://</a>) and in the second type the path. For the mirror I used &#8220;fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os&#8221; worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Keithb</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5045</link>
		<dc:creator>Keithb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite experienced with Fedora (used all versions since V1). I had a wierd experience with F7. I installed the 64 bit version on my experimental machine, had no problems installing at all, and it worked great! However, I then tried something else on it (XP X64 actually). Later, when I tried to clean install F7 (not dual boot) on the same machine, the install worked fine, but after the initial first-time setup boot, it will not boot into the desktop ever again, and is now pretty much unuseable (even after re-installing it twice!). Hopefully the next spin will be better!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite experienced with Fedora (used all versions since V1). I had a wierd experience with F7. I installed the 64 bit version on my experimental machine, had no problems installing at all, and it worked great! However, I then tried something else on it (XP X64 actually). Later, when I tried to clean install F7 (not dual boot) on the same machine, the install worked fine, but after the initial first-time setup boot, it will not boot into the desktop ever again, and is now pretty much unuseable (even after re-installing it twice!). Hopefully the next spin will be better!!</p>
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		<title>By: frank roarty</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5044</link>
		<dc:creator>frank roarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had similar experience with live cd even with a DVD burner Nero tells me it is wrong media type or if I use CD it tells me not enough space-
the install DVD gives me input not supported for 2 different monitors and tried fix from forum without luck (something like mode=vesa resolution=600x800). Unreleasing Fedora 7 would be the right thing to do before anyone else wastes 30 man hours going through every permutation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had similar experience with live cd even with a DVD burner Nero tells me it is wrong media type or if I use CD it tells me not enough space-<br />
the install DVD gives me input not supported for 2 different monitors and tried fix from forum without luck (something like mode=vesa resolution=600&#215;800). Unreleasing Fedora 7 would be the right thing to do before anyone else wastes 30 man hours going through every permutation</p>
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		<title>By: zkdabek</title>
		<link>http://marc.perkel.com/2007/06/01/fedora-7-is-a-flop/#comment-5043</link>
		<dc:creator>zkdabek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"F7"
Only minor install problems exist which are easy to solve on both 32 and 64 bit live images and install DVDs. GRUB boot required a little modding from the anaconda setup. (disks labeled differently to other distros). Install can be allowed to continue on a system with disk(s) of more than 15 partitions until anaconda? crashes in disk partitioning later on. Updater seems to work well but I note there are F6 RPMs hereby installed. Quitting chess without closing the game causes a logout!!! Suspend with Beryl operational gives odd window decoration. Windows decoration sometimes (no clues why or when) disappears leaving screen windows aswas. Generally these annoyances separate this experimental distro from the more stable but less bleeding edge Debian Etch.
zkdabek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;F7&#8243;<br />
Only minor install problems exist which are easy to solve on both 32 and 64 bit live images and install DVDs. GRUB boot required a little modding from the anaconda setup. (disks labeled differently to other distros). Install can be allowed to continue on a system with disk(s) of more than 15 partitions until anaconda? crashes in disk partitioning later on. Updater seems to work well but I note there are F6 RPMs hereby installed. Quitting chess without closing the game causes a logout!!! Suspend with Beryl operational gives odd window decoration. Windows decoration sometimes (no clues why or when) disappears leaving screen windows aswas. Generally these annoyances separate this experimental distro from the more stable but less bleeding edge Debian Etch.<br />
zkdabek</p>
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