Further (addressing the last part of your argument/claim more directly) while mathematicians have proven that the work of all known artists/craftsman/workmen shows distinct and identifiable patterns, for this *by itself* to be true of God would a limitation, and so not the case by definition. God’s nature by definition does not conform to the Principle of the Excluded Middle, so for God to leave logical evidence of his nature is by definition not possible but at the same time possible without contradiction, since God is not subject to logic. So science cannot provide any details on this score either.

I haven’t read the book, however, in his recent TV series, Hawking said something like “Was the universe created by God? Not necessarily.” To be scientifically accurate, he should have said, “Science, due to its limitations, is unable to answer this question one way or the other.”

Even further, you state,

“What the religious world doesn’t realize is that in the world of science one does not simply choose to believe or not to believe in something. The world of science is about determining what reality really is based on evidence.”

This is simply not true. The scientific method itself is based on mulitple non-evidenciary assumptions – multiple beliefs, in other words, which are unprovable and taken on faith: the existence of an “objective physical world” outside the researcher, the existence of the researcher himself, the existence of other researchers, and the notion that there is a sufficiently strong one-to-one correspondence between the data emmitted by the objective physical world and the data received by the researcher, to name just a few.

We can, however, subject the notion of belief in God to logic. While there are many solid logical arguments one can bring to bear (which I will detail in an upcoming book) taken even by itself the proven fact that Theists – as reported in The New England Journal of Medicine – experience better health and longer lives is enough reason to make belief in God the rational choice.
While this does not prove that God exists (as shown above, no logical argument can prove or disprove that), given that over time Natural Selection shapes living organisms for maximum survivability – which is to say, it shapes them into greater accordance with the universe and its laws – it is one of the many indications that the universe is structured *as if* God exists…therefore belief in God is in line with the universe as we know it, and therefore should be part of the “Church of Reality.”

I know you’re discussing the economy; however, a couple of days before the election day, the following video should be run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9EbssUgHj4

This video exposes the psychopathology running through the soul of the “Republican” Party. The WMD’s excuse for the invasion of the Iraq, has cost America thousand of our children, and who the hell knows how many Iraqi children and pregnant women have been slaughtered. It has also cost BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, NOT PAID FOR, BUT CHARGED TO THE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN OF REAL AMERICANS LIVING IN REAL AMERICA.

Your site and Bartcop have a large audience. This video should be spread across the internet like a virus now, and just before election day. I will do my best to get it out to my friends and relatives.

One final thought:

Yes, this spineless democratic party was complicit in the decision to invade Iraq; but, at least most of the party representives occasionally have their hearts and brains in the right place.

qui tacet consentire

Marty

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