Marc Perkel Rantz

Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 is interesting. However, it's kind of lightweight as far as touching on some REAL important aspects.

1.) The 911 event itself. Which is clouded and swirling with inconsistencies and unanswered questions.

2.) The state of Israel and its' involvment in the Middle East.

Maybe he can rename Farenheit 911 to 'Farenheit 911 Light' and then make another version and call it the 'full version'.

One can find Fareinheit 911 on the BitTorrent network with a search in "movies" => "documentaries" of this site:

http://www.suprnova.org/

"Le monde selon Bush" is also a good movie, it is french but made of a lot of interviews, hence completely american english...

Here are the URL's of the two "torrents', you have to get the BitTorrent software to download.

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2659/Fahrenheit.911.SVCD-TS.Centropy.DIVX_Xtech-avi(2).torrent

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2245/[NBFZ.TK]Le.Monde.Selon.Bush.FRENCH.READNFO.DVDRIP.XviD-MinuS.torrent

Marc you'll have to reformat my message !

Bye

THANK YOU!

ur doing the world a good service... keep it up!

Thanks very much.

Michael kinda hijacked the F911 moniker; it doesn't really examine 9/11. I found the most poignant part to be when the Congressional Black Caucus could not get even one Senator's signature (not Wellstone; not even Lieberman!) to challenge the stolen 2000 election. What more proof do you need that Dems do not actually truly really oppose Reps?

If you're looking for info about 9/11, this is not a bad place to start:

http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml

Even I'm not american, nor I live in the USA I want that monkey out... I'll UL it to a carracho server that and a QT.mov version. The server name is TROPICANA find it in the trackers.

Thanks. I was able to download the film in about 30 minutes. I'll be sure to pass it around. The first few minutes are sure tough to watch though. I've been trying to forget that horrible night. All the best.
Robert S.

You should be able to use MovieMaker II (free download) to convert the AVI to a WMV file of any size. The video quality will suck, but it will be a much quicker download.

Perkel, you rock.

Hi Marc,

Here's a good place to get the codec for the avi file without any hassle. Just download and install.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=674#comments

So happy to see someone spreading the TRUTH about Bush!!! Thanks!!!

KERRY/EDWARDS 2004 VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!!!

f911 is only the tip of the iceberg. If Bush and his gang stays in power Hitler will seem smalltime.

The fastest clip of Fahrenheit 911 on the net - which is small in size as well as will show without any players and plugins.

http://www.videosonweb.com/Demos/911.html

Am I being blind or something, or is the film missing the ice cream truck scene about the patriot act?

The World According to Bush is available on DVD and is playing at the Roxie in San Francisco.

http://www.flachfilm.com/film.php?id_film=79&lang=en

It will also be repeated on the CBC on Monday, November 1st.

I write a bit about it (with additional links)

http://www.tvbarn.com/ticker2004/archives/027799.shtml

F911 is here ... hi-quality Flash Video (everyone can see it)

http://www.bush-flipflop.com/f911.html

The World According to Bush is here ...

http://www.bush-flipflop.com/watb.html

Why dont you use Torrent instead, It will save you a lot of bandwidth.

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/romeria/tutorial.htm

it may take a bit of work, but this will help you out in the long run.

Good work sir! I've added a link to you on my site to help spread the word.

I watched fahrenheit 9/11 last night streamed from your Web site. Thank you much for the offering. I had not seen the video before and it was surely not the ravings of a crazy man. Mr. Moore did a good job showing the principles of how men these days like to do business and who gets the bill.

I have taken Fahrenheit 9/11 and posted many important clips from it that start playing instantly if you have a good connection.

Here's the link:

http://www.freespeeches.net/pages/F911.html

Greetings from Argentina.

I just wanna say that here in argentina we are 100% against Bush. Bushit!

Ta for the download, it makes perfect sense to get one of the most dangerous terrorists in the world out of office! the more people that see this the better.

Thanks so much for hosting this... I have just now emailed this link to some people I know who were very hesitant to see the film.. hopefully the ease of this will incent them to take a look. Thanks again!

I keep reading that pay-per-view is preventing the viewing of this film on election night. Why haven't news media been notified of this free download?

Pass the URL on to EVERYONE you know. HELP DEFEAT BUSH!!!! We can't afford another four years!!!!

Thanks for hosting the Movie (especially because i missed the ending when i saw it at the cinema because i had to go early (nothing to do with the movie, i had to catch a bus)), but why the low quality? I mean it's a cam rip.. Why no DVD Rip?
Anyway, thanks, the traffic must be eh, quite a lot.

Thanx so much for putting this up "FREE" for all who wish to see it!!! As a Canadian I was horrified at OUR GOV's lack of initiative when they should have offered the people of the WORLD anything and EVERYTHING to help stop theses madman!! I for one am impressed with Mr. Moore's courage to speak up!! Please keep up the good fight! Mel

Just download VLC, it will play EVERY .AVI file since it is also compatible with the XVID codec

Why linking to such bad quality CAM versions or SVCD's? Here's a link to the DVDrip torrent, perfect quality, 1.5 GiB:
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2523/Fahrenheit.911.DVDRiP.XViD-DvP.torrent

I've already seen the movie, but I wanted to note that I think you're doing a wonderful thing.

Reviewing your comment section I am stricken by several themes. No one gives M. Moore his due in spending his time and cash and alot of research on the mentally challenged Cheney/Bush actions over the last 4 years. I can not see why anyone with an IQ of a vegetable could say anything positive about this administration, that lies, cheats, misleads, and has messed this country and world opinion thereof beyond recognition. Nor not say great things about a great man M. Moore. If he and Bill Mahrer, Al Franken ran this country we would be far better off. Bush reelected IQ of Americans avg less than 50. What else can one say?

I think I speak for every dutch person, when I say

BUSH HAS TO GO

Bush has not done anything to really benefit both Europa as America. How can such an person be reelected?
Though I am afraid that there will be just enough conservative people to vote for this Jackass...
Also I would like to state that when it comes to voting, the USA is like a 3rd world country. It is unorganised; you should work on a uniform when it comes to voting; everybody must have a equal chance to make a difference!!

By the way, great work! I downloaded the movie in 15 mins! Thank you very much!

Erik (The Netherlands)

I agree with Erik's statement above. I'm also Dutch and think that Bush should go! His administration alienates the EU from the USA! I couldn't stand it when our dutch government so easily backed the War on Irak. I think when Bush goes on with further "preemptive strikes" we should leave the NATO, because the NATO has become the servant of the USA.

Nice!!
Let's get Bush out of there(
I linked you from my site (http://www.snowball.be) too!

Thank you!

It is nice to have this indication that Michael Moore is an upfront person who has enough clout to exercise his values by releasing F911 into the pre-election debate for free. I hope it does some good.

It is a real worry to many of us that we are fighting THEIR "blind fanatics" and electing OUR OWN. Soon the teen-agers in Texas will know as little about birth-control as teenagers in Saudi Arabia. What a remarkable ability to over-look the obvious our own "blind fanatics" have honed!

Hi,

I'm from Holland and the elections are a hot topic too in europe because of the situation in Irac. I hope that the VS will get a new president and a huge part of the people in Holland think the same but why isn't this in the VS, is there so much hate about the 9/11 attachs?

I DO NOT agree with all these Dutch friends here. I'm also from the Netherlands, and yes, Bush has made some mistakes (I liked Fahrenheit and I thank you for offering it freely) but I would vote for him if I could. Why? Because I do think that George Bush, in contrast of the opinion of Mr. Moore, has handled well after 9/11. I also think he's a better leader, though my favourite rockstar Bruce Springsteen says he ain't. John Kerry is a man who's drifting around and who has no clear vision.

OK, Bush was wrong by attacking Iraq. But he was misled by the CIA. He didn't have more details than John Kerry had about Iraq, and Kerry voted in favor of the attack. And Bush is no jackass, unless you say that half of the USA is nothing more than that, cause they voted for him last time. I do support the 'coalition of the willing' in Iraq, where my uncle is serving in the Dutch army. I do hope that George W. Bush will win the elections tomorrow.
So, Erik, if you think you're speaking for every Dutch person, you're wrong.

Did you allready see this flash movie ?

http://www.refuse-resist.com/modules.php?name=Flash

Seems 95% of voters in US have VERY strong feelings about who should be president. Never mentioned are those of us that have serious problems with both candidates.

Bush's preemptive war on Iraq is just unamerican. Preemptive war based on "soft" intelligence is EXTREMELY unamerican!

Kerry has ambitions to be president, period. Aways has. Seems Kerry is willing to say or do anything to become president. Ambition is to win, not accomplish anything. Twenty years in Senate and has very little to show for it...except twenty years in the Senate.

As a "right wing moderate" I would like to have a democratic President (foreign policy) and a republican Congress (legislation/economy).

Gridlock is good! Only important agendas pass. The same political party in all braches of goverment is frightening.

Republican want to legislate morality and Democrates want to legislate everything else.

I am more concerned with who will replace Greenspan and Rehnquist than who will be President in 2005.

Republicans don't want to legislate morality..they just want to get back to what this country was founded upon in principle and that is a country rooted firmly in biblical principles as a guideline, a base, something that has a permancy in our life amid the confusion and inconsistencies of every johnny come lately..nothing wrong there..it's not anyone forcing anything but just a recognition of the fact that this country was founded upon these ideals and it is something that should be fought for in the arena of ideas. There are mighty forces at work to destroy this country and if you buy into the crap that is being put out about forced morality then you have joined the side of the enemies of this country without even knowing it..there are so many of you people out there that think you are of great intelligence and rightly so..but you are idiots when it comes to seeing the truth clearly..

This country was also founded on "equality." Except for Blacks, Indians and Women. Progress is key. Progress is what keeps countries moving in a good direction. We might as well go back to the dark ages by that logic.

Agreed Scott, I can't believe how much power the Democrats just lost. Even compared to what it was like before.

Marc, thank you for offering this as a download. I was interested in seeing it. Although it is (of course) extremely bias, I have been screaming about some of the topics mentioned for years.

Hello bigmuny,

The founding fathers of the United States rejected orthodox Christian theology.

On June 10, 1797, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution stating, "...the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on Christian religion..." - George Washington, Treaty of Tripoli in 1796. (see "Acts passed at the first session of the Fifth Congress of the United States" via Library of Congress web site for details.)

The founders were Masons and Unitarians (they did a good job) but times do change...slavery is no longer acceptable for won thing, but if you want to go back to such ideals...you will have to leave the country.
(see http://www.nohoax.com/masonic_founding.htm"

Idiot, force of the enemy, full of crap!?

Relax dude

u no what i just saw the video of when bush was in florida and the towers were getting hit and he was in a school and some won told him america is under attica and he just sat there wile hundreds of people were dying so this is what i have to say

FUCK GEORGE BUSH

Well America is so afraid & confused with itself that they still voted for BUSH and now he will enjoy FUCKING America 4 more years.

I just want to add:

FUCK YOU BUSH
you warmongering asshole.

Couldn't help but answer some of these:

Frankie Bishop writes: However, it's kind of lightweight as far as touching on some REAL important aspects. 2)The state of Israel and its' involvment in the Middle East.

Hmm, Frank, have you consulted a map recently? Israel is IN the Middle East. It's 'involvement' is certainly guaranteed since it resides there.

Blimp Guy whines: I found the most poignant part to be when the Congressional Black Caucus could not get even one Senator's signature (not Wellstone; not even Lieberman!) to challenge the stolen 2000 election. What more proof do you need that Dems do not actually truly really oppose Reps?

Well, Blimpy, knowing how much they tried to cover their OWN asses on election fraud, I'm sure they were worried about more then a few missing ballots might turn up. After all, it was the DEM party that practically invented mass voter fraud and you need look no further then Gore's campaign Chairman, William Daley , of the legendary voter fraud family.

V ominously writes: f911 is only the tip of the iceberg. If Bush and his gang stays in power Hitler will seem smalltime.

Owwww. We're all scared now. Please explain how putting millions of Jews into mass gas ovens can seem "small-time" in the next four years? Please tell us all how 13 million lives lost world wide can seem 'small time"
Folks, it's time V learned a little thing called RESTRAINT. Disagreeing with Bush's policies is one thing, comparing them to Hitler and remarking it'll be 'small time' is hysteria and hyper exaggeration.

Mamute writes: Greetings from Argentina. I just wanna say that here in argentina we are 100% against Bush.

100%? WE? Let me see if I get this right; You are speaking for the entire country of Argentina and you’re certain 100% are against Bush? Was there a census' taken on this? And did it really reach 100%? The reason I ask is because if what you say is true, is this REALLY the best place for 40 million people (+/-) to voice their opinion--on some low life, ignorant leftists website? Wouldn't the once great UN be a more suitable location?

R Nutt..err NorthCuff writes: I can not see why anyone with an IQ of a vegetable could say anything positive about this administration, that lies, cheats, misleads, and has messed this country and world opinion thereof beyond recognition.

Yeah, liberating 50 million people was such a terrible act. For freeing the Afghan's from having to use Soccer Fields for execution grounds and emptying the rape rooms of Iraq, not to mention squeezing in the Mea Culpa of Ghadaffi and just recently Iran, not even seven days after the election, retracting it's promise to pursue nuclear material, Bush and Cheney have done a piss poor job. To be considered truly great he'd have to send a $53 million cruise missile into an empty tent or blow up a baby food factory in the middle of Sudan, huh?

Erik gives us this tidbit: I think I speak for every dutch person, when I say BUSH HAS TO GO

Every Dutch person? Really? And who said Bush wasn't uniting the world? Why, just right here in this forum we have 100% of Argentina and every Dutch Person agreeing on something! Seriously, you should really consider renaming this site "The UN ON-LINE" with so many, many citizens of different countries being spoken for! Perhaps if Britain and Holland would chime in we could solve that nasty old Falkland Island problem and border disputes in the Nordic Circle.

Wim writes: I think when Bush goes on with further "preemptive strikes" we should leave the NATO, because the NATO has become the servant of the USA.

Pre-emption never seemed a problem when we were attacking Somalia or Bosnia, why now? OH, right, a republican in office. Almost forgot.
And by all means, leave NATO. What's that leave us with, 6,999,900 troops instead of 7 million? 360 Warships instead of 361? Seriously, what amazing military advantage does Holland bring to NATO, that, if you decided to leave, most of us would even notice?

Gill screams: Nice!! Let's get Bush out of there(
I linked you from my site http://www.snowball.be) too!

*LET'S*, Gill? Umm, I realize I will face a HUGE lawsuit from the DNC lawyers division--and I do mean division, but should we REALLY be allowing Belgium citizens to vote in our elections to remove Bush? I know this might seem a bit exclusionary, Gill, but why not leave the actual 'election process' to the Americans. We all REALLY appreciate the many, many fine contributions to the world made by Belgium’s, like waffles and chocolate, but I think maybe you should consider warming the bench on this one. Just a thought.

ScottfromBoulder chimes in: Bush's preemptive war on Iraq is just unamerican. Preemptive war based on "soft" intelligence is EXTREMELY unamerican!

Well, except when we bomb Bosnians and Sudanese baby food factories, then Pre-emption is completely understandable. Did any of you actually TASTE the baby food they were making in the Sudan? I think using the MX missile was a bit LIENIENT, on Clinton's part, in my humble opinion.
And when you say "Soft Intelligence", you mean to say eye-witness accounts, 12 years of documented discrepancies, admitted lapses by Iraqi officials, and Satellite Images were too 'SOFT'? What would be considered "Hard"--a signed and witnessed affidavit by Saddam?

And Chizzze, clearly a scholar on the matter, pipes in with this: but why isn't this in the VS, is there so much hate about the 9/11 attachs?

Exactly! 3,000 men, women and children murdered in broad daylight without warning or reason. Some with their throats slashed, some jumping 45 stories to get away from the flames, other's were merely crushed as they tried to rescue their fellow brethren, and we have to gall to act pissed?? What are we thinking? Maybe Gere was right--all the terrorists need is a little love and all will be forgiven! Everyone..GROUP HUG!!

Chris Mccausland writes: u no what i just saw (NO, tell us Chris) the video of when bush was in florida and the towers were getting hit and he was in a school and some won told him america is under attica and he just sat there wile hundreds of people were dying so this is what i have to say.

I know, isn't that awful!? Why didn't he just rip off his shirt, reveal his true identity as Superman, and fly as the speed of light to stop it? Why didn't the man at least run screaming from the room?? Huh? Will someone tell me, please, why couldn't he have just picked up his tricorder and call the Justice League and have them avert disaster? I mean, seriously, they are right down the street and could have had everything right within minutes!!
Thanks Chris for your KEEN observation there.

Seriously, a great discussion going on from the Moore fans. With this kind of KEEN intellect and such widespread knowledge, not to mention independent thought process, I might add, it’s no wonder Bush won the election. You have no doubt guaranteed Moore a steady income for the next 12-15 years, at the very least. Because even if we Americans aren’t completely convinced Bush was the Anti-Christ, 100% of Argentines and every Dutch person can’t be wrong, right?

Without a single hope that this will ever be published here, I leave you with my website, where you can view most of these tidbits and MOOoooore. LOL, get it? Mooooore…? Nevermind.

thanks all man

I think the lengthy post provided by Rob unfortunately proves a trend that bothers me to no end. All too often someone (ie, Rob) who is upset about someone else's position in politics and government (ie, just about anyone posting on this page) simply spends their time belittling whoever disagrees with them, rather than providing constructive criticism and useful dialogue.

One such example is the following: "Chris Mccausland writes: u no what i just saw (NO, tell us Chris) the video of when bush was in florida and the towers were getting hit and he was in a school and some won told him america is under attica and he just sat there wile hundreds of people were dying so this is what i have to say.

I know, isn't that awful!? Why didn't he just rip off his shirt, reveal his true identity as Superman, and fly as the speed of light to stop it? Why didn't the man at least run screaming from the room?? Huh? Will someone tell me, please, why couldn't he have just picked up his tricorder and call the Justice League and have them avert disaster? I mean, seriously, they are right down the street and could have had everything right within minutes!!
Thanks Chris for your KEEN observation there."

I think Chris has every right to be upset with Bush's inaction as the Twin Towers were being bombed. I was as well. No I don't believe that Bush could have called the Justice League for help and I don't think that was Chris's intention. In that specific situation, I would have appreciated it had Bush politely excused himself from the classroom, telling the kids he had a very important Presidential matter to attend to and that he'd return as soon as he could (I'm sure they would be ok with that), and then convened with his advisors and members of the defense community to figure out just wtf was going on. If the country is under attack, I do think I would like the President to cut-short his PR moment and attend to matters of state. However, Rob simply went for some cheap-shots and contributed actually nothing to this list of posts. Much like his website, which at the moment, does not seem to have any content. However I am digressing and stooping to the level of childish name-calling that I was previously complaining about.

I also don't think that the jibes at the European folks that post on this site were appropriate at all.

I am from Detroit and during this past election, several incidents happened in Detroit as well as other cities around the country that simply disgusted me. I heard of folks being harrassed at the polls, that they were told that they would be arrested if they voted. They were turned away at the door and told that their voter-registration cards were invalid, when it was later proven that they were properly registered to vote. Some people even received bogus telephone calls that day, informing them that their polling location had moved to a different address, and those individuals were given a false address and were obviously very confused. I don't know if these ridiculous acts were by Democrats or Republicans, and it really doesn't matter. How can we pretend to set-up democracy in these occupied countries when our own electoral system has become such a farce?

We have such dismal turn-out for elections. And it can be understandable that someone wouldn't vote, because under the electoral college, it's hard to believe that your vote actually counts. Electoral votes are assigned to a state based on the number of Congressmen that state has. The reason it doesn't work is that 13 small states with a population of 18 million people have the same number of 'electors' as does California, which has 35 million voters. So not only does the electoral college fail to provide one person = one vote, but the ridiculously inefficient, unorganized, and non-uniform voting procedures and policies state-to-state as well as poll-to-poll make the election process even more farcical.

If you think I'm just whining because Kerry lost and I'm blaming it on the electoral college - I'm not. Bush received 50.7% of the popular vote, but he received 286 electoral votes. That is 53.2% of the electoral college. So obviously, the electoral college is not representative of what the public feels.

One last quibble I have is that I find it difficult to believe someone can be President of the country (regardless of party) when (in 2000) of the 203 million people who are 18 and older, only 111 million were registered and voted. That's barely half. Of the people that were registered to vote, only 86% actually bothered to vote. So that's 19 million people who were registered, but simply didn't vote! So what's scarier, the way our government behaves, or our apathetic behavior towards that government?

Rather than baselessly attack each other's opinions, I think our time and energy would be best spent making informed decisions, intelligent debates, and attacking a system that fails for both Democrats and Republicans.

Thank you so much!this was pure genius

I just finished a story based on payback time for wrong decisions taken by Mr. G.W.B
I think 911 had crashes and all that stuff we knew. In this story not one gun shut, but its a heavey Payback.
Nice ridlle! HUH?
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