Letter to the Editor
The Pentagon showed lawmakers the remaining photos of prisoner abuse. These new photos are so graphic that senators concluded that releasing the photos would put our troops in danger. They stated that even to fully describe everything would offend the sensibilities of any rational person.
Of what they could describe they stated that saw the raping of prisoners - both heterosexual and homosexual rape. Other pictures depicted "crewel and sadistic torture" and obscenities with corpses. "I don't know how the hell these people got into our army," said Colorado Republican Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell after viewing what he called a fraction of the images. We can only imaging what they can't describe.
I want to say for the record that rape and torture is wrong and that there is absolutely no way to justify this. We can not ignore this and try to cover it up. We need to get to the bottom of this no matter how high up the ladder this goes. This is about who we are as a country and we can not allow ourselves to be defined this way. The absolute worse thing that can happen is that we allow people to get away with this. We need to make it absolutely clear to the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Military, and the people of the world that it is never ok to do this and those who are doing this will be punished. America will be judged by our integrity and we must show the world that we are an honest people and can be trusted.
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PS: OK - tin foil hats on.
I look at the beheading and I see that the terrorists are WHITE and FAT. They are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS and the guy on the right has WHITE SHOES.
The prisoner is wearing an ORANGE JUMPSUIT that is the same color and style used in the American run prison. The Arabic is bad and CNN has determined that it is not the guy who the web site says it is.
You look at the pictures and you tell me what you see. When you play "what's wrong with this picture" - it scares the hell out of you.
Me again, Did you notice Mr. Berg wasn't wearing shoes?????
Posted by: Rob at May 14, 2004 01:34 AMYou have some points but I can't see fat white faces or hands. I've sent some of these pics to
a couple of radio talk show hosts with some pertinent questions. The chair and jump suit alone screams for an explanation. Are there dots to be connected somewhere?
1. I AGREE THAT THE "TERRORISTS" DO NOT LOOK AUTHENTIC.
2. I STRONGLY AGREE THAT THE PERSON PICTURED AS NICK BERG DOESN'T LOOK AT ALL LIKE NICK BERG.IN FACT HE LOOKS LIKE THE SHOE BOMBER. HIS HAIR IS TOO DARK(NICK BERG'S HAIR IS SANDY). ALSO HIS FACE IS SHAPED DIFFERENTLY.
3. THE FIRST PICTURES IF NICK BERG SHOWED A MORE HUSKY BUILD BUT LATER PICTURES SHOW A THINNER BUILD.
QUESTION: WAS THE HEAD RETURNED WITH THE BODY?
HOW HAVE WE VARIFIED THAT THE BODY WAS INDEED NICK BERG?
WHAT BETTER WAY TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE SO CALLED BAD TREATMENT IF THE PRISONERS THAT TO FABRICATE AN ATROSITY TO MAKE THE TERRIORISTS LOOK WORSE?
Posted by: BMOORE at May 17, 2004 06:15 AM"How do these people get into the Army?" is a good question, indeed. How about the interview of that England chick. Talk about a complete moron. She even looks strikingly like Alfred E. Newman. Can anybody else see the resemblence?
The Army needs to seriously upgrade its standards and stop accepting people with near-negative IQs.
Does anyone else think it's unusual that a long, rambling "terrorist statement" does not mention Israel even once?
Bin Laden and his gang can't say a complete sentence without condemning "the Zionist Entity" and the "Zionist/Crusaders." Israel is a *huge* issue for them.
Posted by: anonymous at May 19, 2004 05:06 AMSkin color of "Arab terrorists" in Berg video. Here's a link to a picture of some Arab rebels in Fallujah. http://media.phillyburbs.com/2003/09/18/IRAQ_FALLUJAH_KILLIN.jpg Note the complexion of their skin. Or, how about these guys: http://www.akhbariran.com/aks/13820428/capt.sge.ira33.190703034621.photo02.default-384x256.jpg
The fatness/thinness issue is basically a non-starter. Arabs come in all shapes and sizes, just like everybody else. These guys could just be well-fed Arabs who work for AL-C.I.A.DA
But, I don't want to fan the flames of any foolish conspiracy theories. You know, stupid conspiracy theories like; 19 Islamic hijackers conspiring to blow up the World Trade Towers or insane postulations about Tim McVey and Terry Nichols conspiring to blow up the Murrah Federal building or the Blind Sheik and his followers conspiring to set explosives in the underground of the Twin Towers in '93. Stupid damn conspiracy theories.
I wonder why prosecutors conduct trials for "conspiracy to..." if conspiracies don't exist?
Posted by: johnblack at May 20, 2004 01:37 PMThe human brain is hard-wired to resist punishment. Unjust punishment ALWAYS leads to resistance -- in children, in adults, in prisoners. That's just the way it is. Rewards work better.
And what about the way the head coverings were tied? Don't Arabs have a signature way of tying theirs? These were tied like Hallowe'en costume accessories! Jack Topel's Syrian friend spotted that right off.
Posted by: Jane Stillwater at May 23, 2004 09:38 AMA lot of the truly Semitic Arabs are white-skinned. Also, Iranians and Afghans (being Aryans) are mostly white-skinned and caucasian-featured (Afghans and Iranians have sharper caucasian features than most Europeans).
http://research30.tripod.com/afghanistan/aryan_warrior_race.html
The original Aryan homeland is Afghanistan.
Having said that however, there is no doubt that the Nick Berg video *is* a *fake*, and it has nothing to with the skin-colour of the terrorists (CIA/ MOSSAD in disguise). There's a lot of other evidence that shows the video is a fake.
Posted by: Scholar at February 12, 2006 06:20 PMThis is very shame ful thing that American soldiers had done like those type of bad activities with women & men like rape & torture.
this is a happen of time.it was american's time.so they have done which they wished. otherwise we also can do this type of work with their people.