Even though Liberals / Democrats / Homosexuals want to put a homophobic spin on the issue that Craig was kicked out and Vitter wasn't, I'm not sure I can agree entirely.
Yes - Republicans hate gays. So a gay trist is different than a straight trist in the Republican party. So because Republicans hate gays then they have to toss their gay members.
Having said that, Vitter did is deed in private, behind closed doors. Craig was in a public rest room and the difference is that do we want gay guys cruising public rest rooms for sex? Rest rooms are a plact to go for the bathroom. It's not a gay bar. I don't want people looking at me through the cracks in the stalls trying to make eye contact with me.
Public sex is different than private sex in that you are subjecting people to your sex acts who don't want to be involved. That includes heterosexual public sex as well. So if you get caught by police having public sex then that's a crime and as long as it is a minor crime and just something involving a fine I don't have a problem with law enforcement protecting our restrooms.
Having said that, Republicans claim that they clean up their party and have superior morals. Vitter admitted that he had contact with a prostitute. Craig pleaded guilty. To me that's the same thing because if a senator admits to a crime that's politically the same as pleading guilty. So the Republicans should either kick out Vitter or they should quit bragging about their superior morals. By keeping David Vitter on board they are saying that sex with prostitutes is acceptable to the Republican Party.
There are a number of problems with Senator Larry Craig's story even if you believe what he admitted to in the police interview and other Larry Craig statements.
Then according to the police report Craig was peering at the cop through the crack in the door trying to make eye contact. Craig didn't reach for toilet paper on the floor but had his palm up and touching the bottom of the divider. The cop indicated that he established foot tapping communication with Craig and that they exchanged pickup signals that gay men use to signal they want sex.
Even though the standard of criminal conviction is "beyond a reasonable doubt", if Craig's story is impossible and it's clear he's lying then that undermines reasonable doubt. So a jury conclued Craig is lying and the officer is truthful the Craig goes to jail.
Dear fellow political radicals,
I don't know if you all all as livid as I am about last week's vote to suspend the Constitution and allow the government to spy on us without a warrant as I am. If you are, I have a proposal. I call it operation political starvation and it's a commitment to refuse to donate any money to any politician until our rights are restored.
The law that was passed was like the Patriot Act where it was rushed through without and discussion as to what they were doing. This was done this time by the Democrats who could have just told Bush to go fuck himself but instead voted to give him powers for 6 months that are clearly unconstitutional. Two weeks ago they were talking about impeaching Gonzales for the very thing they just legalized. It's a level of insanity that just makes my skin crawl.
This law will last at least 6 months after which there will be a push to make it permanent. And the Democrats have already demonstrated that they are total pussies when it comes to asserting anything. They talk like they are against what Bush is doing yet all they have to do to stop Bush is to stop voting for things Bush wants.
What they say means absolutely nothing. It's how they vote that counts. Since this law lasts 6 months none of them, and I mean NONE will get a dime from me as long as my rights are suspended. If the law expires without being renewed then I will contribute again. However, we need to make a very strong statement and they have to feel it and this is 2007 and not an election year and I don't see where withholding money is going to make the difference in next years election. Except that what would be the point of electing Democrats if they are going to vote like Republicans.
What I'm looking for is to start a movement and call it "Operation Political Starvation" (unless someone has a better name) where people of all parties refuse to make any political contribution while our rights are suspended. In particular Democrats need to feel it.
I had someone call me yesterday from the DSCC wanting me to give them money to elect Democrats to the Senate. I told her NO FUCKING WAY and made it clear why. She admitted that she was hearing that a lot so there is support out there for this kind of idea.
Yes - it is weird for me to advocate hurting Democrats when the Republicans are pure evil. However if the Republicans control the Democrats which appears to be the case based on HOW THEY VOTE, what is the difference. This is 2007, not 2008 and we have some time here to turn the Democrats around and they best way I can think of is if it makes the news that Democrats are withholding funds until Democrats vote with the voters. When we elected them in 2006 we sent a message that we want change and all we are getting is lip service. That isn't good enough. We need to put the hurt on them. So I'm advocating that we stop giving for 6 months and see how they vote when it comes time to renew this law.
There is a level of insanity that I can not support and the Democrats have reached it. It is time that use who have blogs take a stand for civil liberties while we still have them.
What I have in mind is to boycot and save any contributions to any Democrat. Starve them out. If they don't renew the law in 6 months and protect the Constitution then we can give them the money. If they don't then we can give the money to the ACLU or EFF.
There is an old saying in the news business. "Never pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel. I have a new version of that. "Never pick a fight with a blogger who buys data by the terabyte." I'm using about 8 terabytes a month and I want to dedicate some of it to turning this insanity around.
So - who likes this idea?
Senator Ted Stevens had no trouble getting 250 million approved to build a bridge to nowhere in Alaska. What do you want to bet that getting 250 million to replace the bridge that collapsed in Minnesota will be far more difficult.
So one day Mike Foley and Ted Haggard are on horseback inspecting the fence between the US and Mexico when Foley sees a sheep with his head stuck in the fence.
Foley gets off his horse and has sex with the sheep. After he gets done he says to Haggard, "You want some of this?" Haggard says, "Sure", and he snorts some Meth and sticks his head in the fence.
Tell us something we don't already know! Rush admitted today that he was full of crap, seriously!
The way I feel is this: I feel liberated, and I'm going to tell you as plainly as I can why. I no longer am going to have to carry the water for people who I don't think deserve having their water carried. Now, you might say, "Well, why have you been doing it?" Because the stakes are high! Even though the Republican Party let us down, to me they represent a far better future for my beliefs and therefore the country's than the Democrat [sic] Party does and liberalism.
What Rush doesn't get is that he is a liar and only morons listen to him that think that if they just believe hard enough that reality is going to magically change to suit them. But it's all so much bullshit. Just like Mark Foley was supposed be in charge of exploited children. Just like Rev. Ted Haggard who preached hatred of gays was caught having sex with a gay hooker while high on Meth.
BTW Rush - thanks for helping Claire McCaskil win in Missouri. The Deomcrats wouldn't have the Senate without you!
At least I have the illusion of voting. Lat election we had optical scan pater ballots where you connected lines on a paper ballot and fed them into a machine that scanned the ballot and stored it securely. I'm in San Mateo county in California. Poll location is:
Bethany Presbyterian Church
Church Hall
2400 Rosewood Dr
San Bruno, CA
But this time it was different. There were paper ballots but no optical scan machine and a single electronic voting machine that was out in the open and had a person - an old lady - helping to work it for you. In front of the machine was an old lady voting who was totally confused and complaining that she didn't understand how to work it.
The paper ballot seemed simple enough but after voting I was supposed to drop it in a plastic unsecured box that anyone can open and replace the ballots with whatever they want.
I used to live in Missouri and they had punch paper ballots. After voting you dropped the ballot into a big steel box with a lock on it. That at least gives you the illusion that it was sealed until it made it to the county clerk's office where it would be opened. But today I have no idea who might remove my ballot and replace it with something else. Although the old ladies at the polls don't look like crooks I have no idea who will pick up the ballots and if they can be trusted.
I live in a Democrat area so I'm not that worried about republicans but there are several ballot measures that include massive spending and borrowing that would benefit local officials. I don't know that they might rig the election to pass those measures.
Is it too much to ask that a paper ballot be put into a locked box? I don't think so. An insecure election is an unfair election and voting on an insecure machine is not voting at all.
One of the reason we need to oust the Republicans is to get a ban on cluster bombs like the ones used in Lebanon. If you are tired of your tax dollars going to fund murdering children then vote Democrat.
Here's The Article
GENEVA - The international Red Cross demanded Monday that the world immediately stop using cluster bombs because the indiscriminate civilian deaths caused by the weapons far outweigh any possible military advantages.
The International Committee of the Red Cross said it was stepping up its campaign against the weapons because of Israel's unprecedented use of the scattershot bombs during its monthlong war with Lebanon, the first major organization to do so since the fighting this summer. Russia and the United States also have resisted moves to eliminate the weapons.
"The problems associated with cluster munitions are not new," said Philip Spoerri, director of international law for the ICRC, guardian of the Geneva Convention on the conduct of war. "In nearly every conflict in which they have been used, significant numbers of cluster munitions have failed to detonate as intended and have instead left a long-term and deadly legacy of contamination."
The U.N. Children's Fund has so far only called for "a freeze on the use, transfer and sale of the weapons," spokesman Michael Bociurkiw said.
Annan statement
However, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan is expected to issue a statement Tuesday to countries meeting in Geneva to discuss reducing conventional weapons stockpiles. Officials declined to say whether Annan would map out a new policy for the global body.
Cluster bomb projectiles — or submunitions about the size of an orange or a soft-drink can — are packed into artillery shells or bombs dropped from aircraft. A single cluster-bomb container fired to destroy airfields or tanks and soldiers typically scatters some 200 to 600 of the explosives over an area the size of a football field.
Human rights groups have estimated that Israel dropped cluster bombs containing as many as 4 million tiny bombs in Lebanon. Around 30 to 40 percent of the submunitions failed to explode on impact, U.N. officials have said.
Usually 10 to 15 percent — but in some cases up to 80 percent — of the devices fail to explode immediately. Those that do not explode right away may detonate later at the slightest disturbance, experts say. The impact on children is especially bad because the tiny bombs are usually an eye-catching yellow with little parachutes attached.
Lebanese casualties said to continue
Spoerri said the small bombs were continuing to kill innocent Lebanese civilians every week. Much of the suffering, he added, could have been avoided had more accurate weapons been chosen.
"It is simply unacceptable that (civilians) should return to homes and fields littered with explosive debris," he said. "The ICRC believes that the time has come for strong international action to end the predicable pattern of human tragedy associated with cluster munitions."
The neutral agency previously called for a ban on the weapons’ being used in cities and villages after gauging the effects of the 1999 NATO air war against Serbia over the separatist province of Kosovo. Its call in 2000 for a moratorium on their general use has since been ignored by the United States in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Complicating the problem is the growing risk that militant groups pose. Human Rights Watch also has cited cluster bomb use by Hezbollah against targets in northern Israel, spurring fears that the weapons are becoming more easily accessible for rogue militias and terrorists.
The bombs, a descendant of the "butterfly bomb" dropped by Nazi Germany on Britain in World War II, were first used by the U.S. in Vietnam. Similar weapons were used by Soviet and Russian troops in Angola, Afghanistan and Chechnya, where leftover duds also continue to inflict casualties.
The use of such weapons is not explicitly banned under international law, but an increasing number of human rights groups think it should be.
Jesus! This election isn't about you you dumb fuck! Stay the hell out of this.
By Matthew Cardinale, News Editor, Atlanta Progressive News (September 28, 2006)
(APN) ATLANTA – Top Diebold corporation officials ordered workers to install secret files to Georgia’s electronic voting machines shortly before the 2002 Elections, at least two whistleblowers are now asserting, Atlanta Progressive News has learned.
Former Diebold official Chris Hood told his story concerning the secret “patch” to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., for Kennedy’s second article on electronic voting in this week’s Rolling Stone Magazine.
Hood’s claims corroborate a second whistleblower who spoke with Black Box Voting and Wired News in 2003.
Whistleblower Accounts
“With the primaries looming, [Chief of Diebold’s Election Division] Urosevich was personally distributing a ‘patch,’ a little piece of software designed to correct glitches in the computer program,” Rolling Stone Magazine reported.
"We were told that it was intended to fix the clock in the system, which it didn't do," Hood told Rolling Stone. "The curious thing is the very swift, covert way this was done."
"It was an unauthorized patch, and they were trying to keep it secret from the state," Hood told Rolling Stone.
"We were told not to talk to county personnel about it. I received instructions directly from Urosevich. It was very unusual that a president of the company would give an order like that and be involved at that level,” Hood told Rolling Stone.
The “patch” was applied to about 5,000 polling places in Fulton and DeKalb Counties in 2002, Rolling Stone reported.
Hood did not immediately return a text message from Atlanta Progressive News and his voicemail was not operational.
The second whistleblower, Rob Behler, was contracted to work with Diebold in the lead up to the 2002 Elections.
Two patches were applied in June and July 2002 respectively while Behler worked in the Diebold warehouse; another patch was applied in August 2002 after Behler left the warehouse, Wired News reported.
“Behler said Diebold programmers posted patches to a file-transfer-protocol site for him and his colleagues to apply to the machines,” Wired News reported.
Diebold officials first denied any patches were applied in an interview with Salon in 2003, according to Wired News.
"We have analyzed that situation and have no indication of that happening at all," Joseph Richardson, Diebold spokesperson, is reported to have told Salon at the time.
This story later changed.
Activists Speak Out
Elections integrity activists are outraged by the relevations, although they say the apparent secretive nature of “the patch” has only confirmed the things they already suspected and feared.
“The fact that they were doing any patch of any kind is very disturbing,” Garland Favorito of VoterGA, an organization that is suing the State of Georgia over the meaningless nature of elections here, told Atlanta Progressive News.
“It raises the distinct possibility the machines might have counted [in a] different [manner] on Election Night than when certified,” Favorito said.
“It corroborates two of our key points of the suit. One, machines can count differently on Election Night than when certified. So, the only way is to verify on Election Night. Two, it’s another example of how people have been removed from the counting of the votes,” Favorito said.
“I’m not surprised people are playing tricks. As far as the patch, I say ‘time out’ for that,” Donzella James, who is contesting her purported loss in the Democratic Primary in Georgia’s 13th Congressional District to US Rep. David Scott (D-GA), told Atlanta Progressive News.
“I’m definitely going to look into it. I’m glad there’s a credible person–Kennedy–who has brought this information forward,” James said.
An outspoken advocate for a voter verified paper trail since her days in the Georgia State Senate, James said she is getting ready to run again in 2008 whatever the outcome of her lawsuit.
“It immediately shows Diebold has not been telling the truth, has been covering up facts, in state after state, year after year. This is someone who knows. He has insider knowledge,” Brad Friedman of BradBlog told Atlanta Progressive News.
“These are things people suspected. He confirmed it. Diebold never gave a damn about security, accuracy, or transparency,” Friedman said.
What is worse, the use of last-minute patches on electronic voting machines are routine, Friedman said.
“It has happened all over the country. Because they find out about security issues at the last minute and apply them without going through the proper procedures,” Friedman said.
At a recent press conference called by Donzella James, poll watchers say one county official locked herself in a room with the machine for three unexplained minutes during the recent Primary.
Cathy Cox’s Role
Where was Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox during all this?
Apparently, Diebold leadership asked employees to not let her office know about the patch or patches.
And Diebold first alleged this application of patches wasn’t going on.
However, Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox appears to have found out anyway.
And Diebold appears to have at some point acknowledged the patches existed.
At least one patch was approved by Kennesaw State University, who got a state contract to do so, according to Wired News.
And Diebold admitted to the Elections Assistance Commission about the “0808" patch, Garland Favorito said.
Cox wrote a letter after the 2002 Elections, asking Diebold to address a total of 29 problems with the functioning of their E-voting machines, technology, and procedures, Rolling Stone reported.
This list of 29 items was also brought up in a press conference by US Rep. Cynthia McKinney, her first major press conference on electronic voting.
Cox referred to the item of the mysterious patch as “The application/implication of the 0808 patch.”
“The state was seeking confirmation that the patch did not require that the system ‘be recertified at national and state level’ as well as ‘verifiable analysis of overall impact of patch to the voting system,’” Rolling Stone Magazine reports.
But shouldn’t they be seeking her confirmation and not the other way around?
Diebold’s reply to Cox’s letter, if one exists, has not been made publicly available, according to Rolling Stone.
“She [Cox] should be the one confirming it, not the vendor. She’s the one responsible for running elections in Georgia,” Favorito told Atlanta Progressive News.
“She appears to be trying to privatize the election system to the point where she’s trying to ask the vendor to determine if they’re in compliance, rather that using their own resources,” within the Office of the Secretary of State, Favorito said.
“They claim [as an excuse] to have changed the operating system and not the tabulating software. We believe the law says the systems have to be re-certified with a patch of any kind. The State did not certify those patches. The State took Diebold’s word,” Favorito said.
“However, State Law does not seem to support Diebold’s testimony,” Favorito said.
Atlanta Progressive News will be looking more into how Diebold was, or was not, able to satisfy Cox’s 2002 concerns.
“Atlanta Progressive News is the only media outlet in Georgia that’s covering this story,” Garland Favorito of VoterGA said.
About the author:
Matthew Cardinale is the News Editor for Atlanta Progressive News. He may be reached at matthew@atlantaprogressivenews.com
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I went to check on the Liebernan web site and it's back up. It's a one page site and it has a Joe Lieberman video on it - but the video isn't being fed from his web site. It's being fed from the You Tube servers. So instead of paying for his own bandwidth Lieberman is ripping off someone else. I wonder if Youtube knows that they are making a donation to Joe Lieberman?
With less than 100 days till elections the Republicans need to shake the boggie man and try to create some terror. Republican need terror and rigged votimg machines to win elections. With Lieberman losing it's Red Alert, new plot to blow up planes.
Lets see what this plot looks like next week. I remember the last two plots that fizzeled out into nothing. Lets see where this one goes. Expect a lot more trror as we get close to the election. Maybe they can even fet Bush's buddy Osama to make an election eve endorsement like he did in 2004.
I want to be the person at the airport who's supposed to inspect the breast milk.
New details are coming out about Lieberman's lie about the site hack. This Yahoo Story has some interesting new details.
The campaign spends about $100 to $150 a month on Web hosting services with MyHostCamp, said Dan Geary, who administers the site for the campaign. Geary said that MyHostCamp, which is owned by a friend of Geary's, gave the site more than enough bandwidth — 200 gigabytes a month — to handle a crush of visitors.
200 gigs a month? Is that all? If that's a hard limit it's no wonder it's down. This server that this blog is on puts out about 6000 gigs of data a month. Two years ago during the last 2 weeks of the 2004 election we put data out at a rate of 32000 gigs/month. That's over 100 times the capacity that Lieberman had, and I'm not running for Senate.
If Lieberman ran into his bandwidth caps wich considering the national attention he should have then the issue isn't an attack, but that he was just tyring to be cheap.
Additionally the tech admitted something important.
Geary acknowledged that he has no idea who hacked into the site. Lamont's campaign has denied any involvement.
So if Lieberman's tech guy admits he has no idea who is behind the attack then why is Lieberman shooting off his mouth accusing Lamont of doing it. For all he knows it could be Hezbollah or Republicans. Or most likely there wasn't an attack. They just didn't buy the bandwidth to handle the traffic. I'd say that there's no way 200 gigs a month is enough for Lieberman when 200 gigs a day is barey enough for me.
From Lieberman's web site.
UPDATE ON THE ATTACK ON THE LIEBERMAN CAMPAIGN WEBSITE
STATEMENT FROM SEAN SMITH: "For the past 24 hours the Friends for Joe Lieberman's website and email has been totally disrupted and disabled, we believe that this is the result of a coordinated attack by our political opponents. The campaign has notified the US Attorney and the Connecticut Chief State's Attorney and the campaign will be filing a formal complaint reflecting our concerns. The campaign has also notified the State Attorney General Dick Blumenthal for his review."
"We call on Ned Lamont to make an unqualified statement denouncing this kind of dirty campaign trick and to demand whoever is responsible to cease and desist immediately. Any attempt to suppress voter participation and undermine the voting process on Election Day is deplorable and has no place in our democracy."
The problem is that it's just not true. Lieberman doesn't have a dedicated server. He shares his server with hundreds of other sites that are all working fine. I tested his email and it appears to be fine as well. For more information about Lieberman's server, Click Here. I just sent an email to postmaster@joe2006.com and according to my logs it to 5 seconds to deliver it.
Of course Lieberman has called on Lamont to stop it as if Lamont has something to do with it or can control it. This is just a political ploy. Nothing More.
I remember from the first day of this war that the Bush people was saying things about this was about Syria and Iran - both of which aren't involved. They also used the term "proxy war". Generally one of the Neocon signature traits is to accuse the other side of exactly what you are up to. Israel is fighting a proxy war for America, or maybe we are Israel's proxy.
I know one thing for sure - what they are telling us to believe isn't true. But what is true is sort of a puzzle for us to solve. But without knowing who and how it's happening the intent is clear. The players involved want a far wider regional war and perhaps even a world war. I believe that Israel and America are trying to start World War 3. We have to put a stop to it.
Here's the Article from Consortium News
Three days after the May 23 summit between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and U.S. President George W. Bush, a car bomb killed two officials of Islamic Jihad in the Lebanese city of Sidon.
Immediately, Lebanese officials, including Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, denounced the murder of brothers Nidal and Mahmoud Majzoub and pointed the finger at Israel as the prime suspect. On June 10, a man named Mahmoud Rafeh was arrested for the car bombing and, according to the Lebanese army, confessed that he was a Mossad agent.
Rafeh, a 59-year-old retired police officer, belonged to a “terror network working for the Israeli Mossad,” which had smuggled a booby-trapped door into Lebanon from Israel for use in the assassination, the Lebanese army said.
In retrospect, the Majzoub assassination looks to have been part of a larger U.S.-Israeli strategy – following the Olmert-Bush summit – to encourage a tit-for-tat escalation of violence that would ratchet up pressure on Palestinian and Lebanese militants – and through them their allies in Syria and Iran.
That violence also set the stage for the current Israeli-Lebanese war, which now has raged for almost one month and has claimed the lives of nearly 1,000 Lebanese and 100 Israelis.
A Year for War
According to Israeli sources, Olmert and Bush agreed at the May 23 summit to make 2006 the year for neutralizing Iran’s nuclear ambitions, while deferring a border settlement with the Palestinians until 2007.
Provoking a wider regional conflict also revived hopes among Bush’s neoconservative advisers that they might yet create a “new Middle East” that would be amenable to U.S. and Israeli desires and interests.
In this context, the Israeli-Lebanese war was a confrontation looking for a pretext, not an ad hoc response to Hezbollah’s capture of two Israeli soldiers on July 12. That so-called “kidnapping” has been sold to the American people and many world leaders as the precipitating event for the conflict, but it now appears only to have been a trigger for a prearranged scheme.
Israeli sources indicate that Bush gave Olmert a green light for the conflict at the May 23 summit. The sources said Bush has even encouraged Israel to expand the war by attacking Syria, although Israeli leaders balked at that recommendation because they lacked an immediate justification.
One Israeli source said some Israeli officials considered Bush’s interest in an attack on Syria “nuts” since it would have been viewed by much of the world as an act of overt aggression. Bush, however, is said to still hold out hope that reactions by Syria or Iran – such as coming to the aid of Hezbollah – could open the door to a broader conflict.
In an article on July 30, the Jerusalem Post hinted at Bush’s continued interest in a wider war involving Syria. “Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria,” the newspaper reported.
Bush pursued a similar “pretext” war strategy in 2003 when he sought a provocation by Iraq that would give legal cover for invading that country.
A leaked British document recounted an Oval Office meeting between Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair on Jan. 31, 2003. Even as Bush was publicly telling the American people that he viewed war with Iraq as a “last resort,” he had already made up his mind and was scheming to find excuses for justifying an attack on Iraq.
According to minutes written by Blair’s top foreign policy aide David Manning, “the U.S. was thinking of flying U-2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in U.N. colours. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach.”
Regardless of whether a casus belli could be provoked, Bush already had “penciled in” March 10, 2003, as the start of the U.S. bombing of Iraq, according to the memo. “Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning,” Manning wrote.
As it turned, Bush brushed aside Blair’s worries about the legality of an unprovoked invasion of Iraq and went ahead with the assault on March 19, 2003. Though Iraq’s dictator Saddam Hussein was ousted after a three-week U.S.-led assault, Iraqi insurgents have battled the American occupying army since then in a war that has claimed the lives of almost 2,600 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis.
New Ambitions
Many American observers believed that the disaster in Iraq would tamp down Bush’s ambition to remake the region. However, with Olmert’s ascension to power in Israel in 2006, Bush saw a kindred spirit who believed that military force was the only way to get Islamic adversaries to make necessary concessions.
After the May 23 meeting with Bush, Olmert declared that “this is a moment of truth” for addressing Iran’s alleged ambitions to build a nuclear bomb.
In a speech to a joint session of Congress on May 24, Olmert called the possibility of Iran building a nuclear weapon “an existential threat” to Israel, meaning that Israel believed its very existence was in danger.
Two days later, the car bomb killed the Majzoub brothers in Sidon and a new cycle of escalation began. In reaction to the assassinations, Islamic militants fired rockets into Israel, which, in turn, counter-attacked killing one Hezbollah fighter.
Tensions rose further when fighting between Israelis and Palestinians resumed in Gaza. On the night of June 23, Israeli commandos crossed into Gaza and seized Osama and Mustafa Abu Muamar, two sons of Hamas activist Ali Muamar. [BBC, June 24, 2006]
Early on the morning of June 24, Hamas militants snuck into Israel via a tunnel from Gaza and attacked an Israel patrol, killing two soldiers and capturing Corporal Gilad Shalit as a part of a demand for a prisoner exchange. Israel is reported to hold about 10,000 Palestinian prisoners.
On June 27, as these tensions mounted, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was still working to advance a possible peace settlement with Israel. Abbas coaxed the more radical Hamas, which controls the Palestinian parliament, into endorsing a document proposing a Palestinian state alongside Israel.
Abbas’s success represented a potential breakthrough in a border settlement with Israel, since Hamas implicitly was accepting Israel as a neighbor next to an independent Palestinian state.
But the next day, June 28, Olmert sent the Israeli army crashing into Gaza to avenge the “kidnapping” of Shalit, a phrasing that the U.S. news media immediately adopted in blaming Hamas for instigating the crisis.
As the Israeli army overwhelmed scattered Palestinian resistance and began “detaining” – not “kidnapping” – Hamas legislators, tensions were also mounting on the Israeli-Lebanese border. On July 12, Hezbollah forces attacked an Israeli border outpost, killing three soldiers and capturing – or “kidnapping” – two others, also seeking a prisoner exchange.
The July 12 incident opened up the floodgates of violence. Israel launched a broad air-and-ground offensive aimed at crushing Hezbollah by blasting apart its strongholds in south Lebanon and destroying much of Lebanon’s economic infrastructure, from roads to communications. Hezbollah launched hundreds of Katyusha rockets into northern Israel.
Besides the almost 1,000 Lebanese who have died, an estimated one million – or about one-fourth of Lebanon's population – were displaced from their homes. The Israeli death toll, both military and civilian, stood at about 100.
While many international leaders called for an immediate cease-fire to stop the bloodshed in July, Bush staunchly defended Israel’s actions as a legitimate act of self-defense against “terrorists.”
In an unguarded moment during the G-8 summit in Russia on July 17, Bush – speaking with his mouth full of food – told Blair “what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit.”
Not realizing that a nearby microphone was turned on, Bush also complained about suggestions for a cease-fire and an international peacekeeping force. “We’re not blaming Israel and we’re not blaming the Lebanese government,” Bush said, suggesting that the blame should fall on others, presumably Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.
Meanwhile, John Bolton, Bush’s ambassador to the United Nations, suggested that the United States would only accept a multilateral U.N. force if it had the capacity to take on Hezbollah's backers in Syria and Iran.
“The real problem is Hezbollah,” Bolton said. “Would it [a U.N. force] be empowered to deal with countries like Syria and Iran that support Hezbollah?” [NYT, July 18, 2006]
‘Cease-Fire’
By early August, as rage throughout the Middle East rose to a boil, the Bush administration finally put forth a cease-fire plan. But it read as if it were designed to further stir Arab anger and extend the conflict.
While demanding that Hezbollah stop fighting and effectively disarm, it would allow Israeli forces to remain in south Lebanon and only require Israel to cease “offensive” operations. A multinational force would then replace the Israeli army and police a buffer zone carved entirely out of south Lebanon.
Bush said his cease-fire goal was to strike at the “root cause” of the conflict, the existence of Hezbollah as an armed militia inside Lebanon.
“By taking these steps, it will prevent armed militias like Hezbollah and its Iranian and Syrian sponsors from sparking another crisis,” Bush said at an Aug. 7 news conference in Crawford, Texas.
“The loss of life on both sides of the Lebanese-Israeli border has been a great tragedy,” Bush said. “Millions of Lebanese civilians have been caught in the crossfire of military operations because of the unprovoked attack and kidnappings by Hezbollah. The humanitarian crisis in Lebanon is of deep concern to all Americans, and alleviating it will remain a priority of my government.”
But the reality appears to be quite different. Much as Bush told the American people that he considered war with Iraq “a last resort” long after he had decided to invade, Bush is now saying his goal is to relieve a humanitarian crisis when he actually hopes to expand the conflict and force a showdown with Syria and Iran.
While U.S. officials have been careful not to link the Lebanon conflict to any possible military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities, they have spoken privately about using the current conflict to counter growing Iranian influence.
Only days after the Lebanon-Israel conflict began, Washington Post foreign policy analyst Robin Wright wrote that U.S. officials told her that “for the United States, the broader goal is to strangle the axis of Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Iran, which the Bush administration believes is pooling resources to change the strategic playing field in the Middle East. …
“Whatever the outrage on the Arab streets, Washington believes it has strong behind-the-scenes support among key Arab leaders also nervous about the populist militants – with a tacit agreement that the timing is right to strike.” [Washington Post, July 16, 2006]
Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'
Lieberman doesn't care about archane concepts like the will of the people through democratic elections. He's smarter than us and he can't let the election results stand. "I can not and will not let that result stand," he declared. Nothing else matters to Joe because the rest of us don't matter. The only thing that's important is what he wants. It's all about Joe and what he wants.
Joe Lieberman's web site that he claimed was hacked by Lamont is still down today. When you go to his web page at http://joe2006.com it redirects you here:
http://server1.myhostcamp.com/suspended.page/
Notice the URL is called "suspended.page" which implies that this is not a hacked site, it's a suspended page. That supports the theory that Lieberman got suspended for not paying his bill. So if he called the cops and the FBI in over this he filed a false police report. We need to call the bastard on this lie.
Also - this site is on a shared server with hundreds of other sites. All the other sites are still online. So there's no server damage or denial of service attack. So - think about it - all the other sites are up and Lieberman's site is redirected to a "suspended" page. And - after 40 hours it's still not back up? What does that tell you?
Now that we have defeated Lieberman it's time that the Democrats get the message that we are against the war, against Bush, and against sucking up to the right wing. We aren't going to support Democtats who are in the pockets of big oil, tobacco companie, and vote for tax breaks for the rich.
Our valuse are important and our resources are limited. So we should only support those Democratic candidates who are worthy of support. We should contribute to candidates of our choosing and not to organizations who just fund incumbent dems regardless of their position on important issues like the war. So if the DCCC doesn't take an anti-war stand and Move-on does then give to Move-on. We also need to give to the Democratic organizations who helped defeat Lieberman and to make it clear that Democrats aren't going to get our support unless they are more than just not being a Republican.
Here's the site I've been looking for that has the Real Story about Lieberman's web site.
"Update: DailyKos points out that none of the other 73 sites hosted on that same server are down. That really kills the credibility of the Lieberman campaign claiming it was a DoS attack."
If there was an attack all the web sites on that server would be down. And if someone copied over Liebermans site it only takes a few minutes to restore from backups.
I don't know what's really happening but I know what's not happening and that's Lieberman's version. Someone needs to ask the hosting company for an explanation.
Being a web host myself I'm not buying this story that Jieberman's site was hacked story. His site has been down far too long for that excuse. Unless he is totally incompetent all you have to do is restore from backups and put it back online. If someone hacked any site on my servers it would take me less that 10 minutes to restore.
The other version, that he didn't pay his bill is more likely. Many vendors get stiffed by politicians during elections. If the vendor wasn't paid and thought he was going to get screwed then he might pull the site. There are blogs out there that captured the original message that his site was pulled for not paying his bill.
Lieberman's accusation that he seems to know that Lamont did it is just an election day ploy. Even if he were hacked, how whould he know who did it?
The WHOIS data on the joe2006.com site is interesting.
Friends of Joe Lieberman
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TransferGuard LOCK Status => DISABLED
Notice the transfer lock as disabled. That's just a little sloppy for a political candidate.
TV news is becoming totally worthless. Case in point CNN. It's the let's hate the wet backs channel. There's two kinds of people, us and them, and we need to build a wall to keep them out. As if illegal immigrants is a serious issue as compared the the Iraq Occupation that CNN helped sell. There's just no point in tuning in anymore because hating hispanics is all they talk about and I'm not into hating hispanics. Mexicans are generally hard working law abiding citizens and they deserve respect. Shame on CNN.
Or is this an elaborate hoax? This guy has enough money and connections to fake his death as a way to get out of prison. Lets watch and see if there's anything funny at the funeral. I think that he's living on Bush's ranch with Osama bin Laden.
I wish I weren't an Atheist today because Ken Lay died. If I weren't an Atheist I could have the satisfaction of believing he was in Hell right now paying for all the hell he caused in this world. but unfortunately he got away with it. I was looking forward to him spending some time in prison.
I see in the news that Bush is trying to sucker Arlen Spector into a deal on domestic spying.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060625/ap_on_go_co/eavesdropping_2
The idea is that congress will pass a new law that will somehow solve the problem of Bush's illegal wiretapping. However this would be a serious mistake. Last Friday I was in Federal District Court in Northern California in the Electronic Frontier Foundation vs. AT&T case. In this case as you might have read the Bush administration is trying to block the lawsuit on the basis that the domestic spying is a military secret.
I was there in court and this is something you won't see in the news because most of the reporters left early but the Justice Dept. lawyers told the judge that if Congress passes any law restricting domestic spying that they would ignore the law and threatened the judge with a constitutional crisis if he ruled against them. So Arlen is going to get screwed because no matter what law they pass Bush will not follow it.
What's important here is to get a lot of people to call Alren Spector ASAP (Monday) and let him know that he's about to get screwed because bush lawyers told the judge that they will refuse to obey the law. The number for his office is 202-224-4254. Please do whatever it takes, posting on your web sites, on other's web sites, and do a special mailing to your lists to get the word out. We need to get Arlen's attention and make him understand that he's being suckered.
Every network is featuring Cynthia McKinny's remarks calling someone a fool. As if that is some kind of news or something. why is calling someone a "fool" even interesting? because she's a blak woman and the news media is trying to put the nigers in the back of the bus. CNN has had the story on their front page for almost a week now.
From the town where I used to live, Springfield Missouri, the home of the Patriot Act, is this report from TV station KY3 abut bank spying. I call Springfield Missouri the home of the Patriot Act because that's where John Ashcroft and Roy Blunt are from and the headquarters of the Assembly of God Church who all want total government control of everything. Here's the story:
SPRINGFIELD -- The revised Patriot Act just passed by Congress has provisions that might bring your banking practices under scrutiny. The checks you write and the deposits you make are all are under a microscope as a way to try to keep America safe from terrorists.
"We're automatically at high risk,” said Empire Bank vice president Cindy Harding, a fraud investigator.
Banking with a federally insured bank means you're now being monitored under the Patriot Act.
"Everybody in southwest Missouri, in Springfield, in Christian County, is considered high risk because it’s designated like that by the feds for drug trafficking,” said Harding.
Under the new Patriot Act, Harding says, most banks will have to have one person working full time to monitor customers and their money.
"They risk assess all of our customers as to what is the likelihood they could be involved in terrorist financing and money laundering,” she said.
Each and every customer will be classified based on his or her perceived risk threat: low, medium or high risk.
"Then we have to monitor everybody’s accounts to make sure they stay within the bounds of what was determined would be normal activity,” said Harding.
Certain companies and certain people will draw more scrutiny.
"Any cash intensive business, restaurant, convenience store, gas station," she said. "Doctors, lawyers, Accountants."
If a large amount of cash appears in an account, or a large amount of money is moving through an account, that could trigger concern
"If we can't determine why, we're required to fill out a suspicious activity report," said Harding.
That report contains a customer’s personal information and what he or she is suspected of doing. The bank is also forbidden under the Patriot Act to tell a customer that he or she was flagged. The information is then turned over to federal investigators.
In this monitoring, you can look at banks as the middlemen. They're being monitored, too.
"The feds look at us,” said Harding. “They’re monitoring everyone's activity."
I have registered the domain name unnameddemocrat.com and I'm in the process of building a web site there. It's about 7 weeks before I can register so if I get enough interest in the next 7 weeks I'll change my name legally to Unnamed Democrat and see how I do. The purpose of this web site is to light a fire under the asses of the Democratic Party. If major Democrats aren't denouncing me soon I'm not doing my job.
So - who wants to get in on this with me?
I'm thinking about running for Congress again. I ran in 1998 against Roy Blunt and ran for Senate in 2000 against John Ashcroft. I think I'm ready to light a fire under the asses of the Democrats and make the party stand for something.
I keep seeing polls of races where an "unnamed democrat" can beat just about anyone. So I'm thinking about changing my name legally to "Unnamed Democrat" and running against Tom Lantos here in California. I'll be the kind of Democrat people imagine of an unnamed democrat would be. My platform would be something like:
I'm not on of THEM!
Get the hell out of Iraq.
A vote for me is a vote to impeach Bush.
Clinton was one of America's greatest presidents ever.
Let's return to peace and prosperity.
No Patriot Act - a return to freedon and constitutional values.
Legalizing personal freedom. Pot, Prostitution, Dying with Dignity, Abortion, Stem Cell Research, religious rights for Atheists.
The Primary is on June 6th 2006 - Elect and Atheist on 666 - I think it's a sign from God that I should run!
The Democrats have to have more of a platform than "we aren't Republicans!" We need to either be the opposition party or we need to get out of the way so an opposition party can rise up. Either way - I can no longer sit here and take it. The only thing that pisses me off more than the Republicans is the defening silence from the Dems that give them cover. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I probably won't win - but I will be heard.
Who is with me on this?
71% of Iraqies believe that Americans just make up statistics about Iraq.
GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Nov 10, 2005, 06:19
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.
“The President’s popularity was at an all-time high following the 9/11 attacks,” admits one aide. “Americans band together at a time of crisis.”
Other Republicans, however, worry that such a scenario carries high risk, pointing out that an attack might suggest the President has not done enough to protect the country.
“We also have to face the fact that many Americans no longer trust the President,” says a longtime GOP strategist. “That makes it harder for him to become a rallying point.”
Wondering what Ahmad Chalabi (curveball) was doing in Washington last week meeting with top Whitehouse officials? He was auditioning for president of Iraq. Ahmad Chalabi is a man who understand how the system really works and he knows that you don't get elected in Iraq by the people. He knows that the US will install a puppet government there and he wants to be that puppet. So he's doing what you really need to do to get "elected" in Iraq. He's pitiching a deal to the oil company representatives who control America. Condi Rice, Rumsfield, Cheney etc.
This is the same guy who help generate the lies that led us to war in the first place.
The US official Government Propaganda Site denies use of phosphorus shelles in Fallujah. Here's part of their statement.
Finally, some news accounts have claimed that U.S. forces have used "outlawed" phosphorus shells in Fallujah. Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. U.S. forces have used them very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination purposes. They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters.
Check out the movie in the previous message and see pictures of people who were "illuminated".
From the Geneva convention:
1. It is prohibited in all circumstances to make the civilian population as such, individual civilians or civilian objects the object of attack by incendiary weapons.
2. It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by air delivered incendiary weapons.
3. It is further prohibited to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by means of incendiary weapons other than air delivered incendiary weapons, except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians and all feasible precautions are taken with a view to limiting the incendiary effects to the military objective and to avoiding, and in any event to minimizing, incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians and damage to civilian objects.
Here's a BBC Report on the US using phosphorus weapons in Iraq.
Here's a Quicktime Movie showing the attack. it's a big file (91 megs) so don't download it unless you're on something fact.
I'm voting against the governor.
Yes on 79,80
No on everything else.
Here's a good video that the DCCC produced. I think they really nailed the issues.
When it comes down to it the real reason that this nomination failed is because she was a totally incompetent, inexperienced, unqualified, and a Bush cronie - so much so that even Republicans couldn't stomach it. Especially after the Michael Brown FEMA disaster. I was looking forward for a longer process before it failed. Amazingly enough Meiers is going to be the one who picks the next nominee.
Of course we're going to have to listen to the Christian pound their chests as if they had something to do with it but what they don't realize is that Bush doesn't need them anymore. Besides if the Christian Right wants to take credit for their control of the government then they can take credit for the deficit, the price of gas, tortue, lies, murder, that failed war in Iraq. In fact whenever I see a Bush supporter at the gas station filling up his gas guzzler and forking over $100, I just have to grin.
One of the things I think is disturbing is that Democratic Senate Minority leader Harry Reid supported Meiers. Just as Bush is the Republican moron who brings stupidity to his party, Harry Reid is almost as stupid as Bush is. What he's doing as a leader of the Democrats is a mystery to me.
I'm still waiting to see ig Jesse Ventura will run for president. I'm ready to stick it to both parties.
Tom Dalay pranced into court demanding the judge recuse himself because he's a Democrat. In Texas judges are elected and all of them are either Democrats or Republicans. So the fact that the judge is a Democrat in Texas doesn't mean the same thing as other states that prohibit judges from being involved in politics.
What Delay screwed himself is that the judge ruled that another judge should make the decision about his recusal. What this means is that he will eventually get a hearing and have to wait maybe 90 days and if Delay wins then he'll get a new judge that may also be a Democrat. Similarly, if a Republican is appointed then the Prosecutor in theory could also ask for a new judge.
In the mean time the charges sit there and Delay is hobbled. Delay won't be back at his job at least until this is resolved and it's not going to proceed while they are arguing about who the judge is going to be. In the mean time my pld buddy Roy Blunt will get used to having Delay's job and is unlikely to hand it back to him if Delay wins down the line. The bottom line is Delay has already lost no matter what the outcome is at this point.
Bush would use the military to enforce a quarenteen in the case of a bird flu pandemic that could cost the lives of hundreds of millions of people. It would be like declaring martial law in order to stop the spread of a disease. But Bush refuses to infringe on any corporate pharmaceutical patents that would allow other companies to manufacture a cure or a vaccine. We are expected to be contained by the military until we die in order to protect corporate profits.
I have a different idea. Should such and event happen then it would be the duty of every citizen to start slaughtering pharmaceutical company executives until they get the idea that the lives of people come before company profits. Maybe after they start dying would the get the idea that life is more important than money. We the people will never become the slaves of international corporations and we are not going to die or be killed to protect corporate profits.
You know - as of right now this pandemic is mostly theoretical. It did happen in 1918 but it is not happening now. So why is everyone going nuts over this as if it's already here? Not to sound to tin foil hat but are they manufacturing a plauge? Would Bush start a plauge merely for political purposes? He started a war for political purposes. It will be more than a coincidence if there just happen to be an outbreak just after this idea is being introduced. And that Bush already has plans to use the Military to contain it.
One of the articles about this is in the extended section. That is what I'm responding to. If I sound like I'm nuts - read this!
Politics behind bird flu
Lawmakers grapple on how to handle potential spread of deadly virus
David Shuster
MSNBC Correspondent
It’s a disease that has already killed millions of birds in Southeast Asia and is spreading to humans across Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and Indonesia. U.S. health officials fear the contagious and deadly Asian flu may be mutating, making it immune to antidotes, creating an international catastrophe.
According to Dr. Frederick Leung at the University of Hong Kong, “You would be surprised how fast that virus can travel from a Third World backward country farm into New York City.”
The flu spreads easily from birds to humans, like by eating infected chicken, and there are worries that it could spread human to human, through something as simple as kissing. Airline passengers in places like Hong Kong are being scanned for the fever, but officials, including some in the United States, warn the Asian flu could end up killing tens of millions of people.
“The world is obviously unprepared, or inadequately prepared, for the potential of a pandemic,” says Secretary Mike Leavitt of Health and Human Services.
One reason is because of poor monitoring overseas. Another is because there are not enough doses available of the main anti-virus drug known as Tamiflu. President Bush recently brought CEOs of six vaccine companies to the White House to address expanding the American stockpile.
President Bush said, “The people of the country ought to rest assured that we are doing everything we can.”
But in the United States, experts say there are less than 10 million doses of the vaccine and manufacturing millions more will take time. Democrats argue the administration is moving too late. They say the administration should relax patent issues, so dozens of companies can make the drug. Something the pharmaceutical industry and the Bush administration oppose.
The other political flash point is over government plans for containing an outbreak. The president suggests using U.S. troops, one of the first ever been proposals for domestic health crisis.
“Who best to be able to effect a quarantine? One option is the use of a military that’s able to plan and move,” said Bush, addressing the issue. “That’s why I put it on the table."
The military was dispatched to help keep people out of cities along the Gulf following Hurricane Katrina, but the potential reliance on trained warriors in a fully-populated city instead of police startles some on the political right.
“When you put them in a role that is more appropriate to domestic peace officers, who ideally are trained to respect the constitutional rights of the citizens they’re protecting — if you put soldiers in that role, if you put the 82nd Airborne in that role, you run the risk of collateral damage to civil life and liberty,” said Gene Healy of the Cato Institute.
It’s a debate in part between scenarios. Imagine being kept in your hometown and forced at gunpoint to stay in a quarantine. But also imagine the chaos if you and millions of other Americans in the face of a pandemic are on your own. As one observer noted, while the political fight over the Asian flu may be getting intense, just wait.
So - we have a governor who was elected with a special election who has initiated another special election to change the election rules.
Not with my vote!
I'm voting against everything Schwarzenegger wants. And I'm voting for everything he doesn't want.
At a time when oil companies are swimming in money showing the highest profits in the history of the world, and at a time when we have record deficits and the government is asking people to sacrifice their children's lives for a fraudulent war, Congress just gave away another 14 billion dollars to big oil. As they say, America has the finest democracy that money can buy. We are a nation that is living the lie.
I came across three films produced by the BBC called "The Power of Nightmares" which explain how various groups use the fear of terrorism to advance their political power. I've spent all day converting them to a smaller format so that they can be ea silly downloaded. But they are an hour long each and are about 75 megs each. They are however extraordinary and it's quite an education into the history of Islamic Terrorism and American neo conservatives. Here are the links:
Baby it's Cold Outside
The Phantom Victory
The Shadows in the Cave
Sorry for the windows (WMV) format but it allowed me to shrink the video to 1/10 it's original size. I don't think there's a copyright issue but if there is I'll wait till someone screams about it. I think the BBC would want people to see these films. I think that something as important as faking the existence of a terrorist organization that started two wars is more important that someone's copyright.
It appears however that might have gotten it wrong on the claim that Al Qaeda was and invented term by New York Prosecutors. The article in The Nation seems to refute that premise. However the size and scope of the organization has been greatly exagerated.
On the other hand I had someone do a Lexis-Nexis search that shows the term appearing first in late 1998 at the New York trial. Nothing before that. That would indicate that the term might have been invented there. The word Al Qaeda translates into "the base" which is a generic term and because of that this issue might never be completely resolved.
Here's the BBC Link that talks about the 3 films. I edited off the front part of the last two because it was identical to the first one and I wanted to save bandwidth.
Transcript of Third Film Follows:
Originally aired on BBC 2, 3 November 2004, 9 pm
Written and produced by Adam Curtis
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3970901.stm
VOICE OVER:
In the past, politicians promised to create a better world. They had different ways of achieving this. But their power and authority came from the optimistic visions they offered to their people. Those dreams failed. And today, people have lost faith in ideologies. Increasingly, politicians are seen simply as managers of public life. But now, they have discovered a new role that restores their power and authority. Instead of delivering dreams, politicians now promise to protect us from nightmares. They say that they will rescue us from dreadful dangers that we cannot see and do not understand. And the greatest danger of all is international terrorism. A powerful and sinister network, with sleeper cells in countries across the world. A threat that needs to be fought by a war on terror. But much of this threat is a fantasy, which has been exaggerated and distorted by politicians. It's a dark illusion that has spread unquestioned through governments around the world, the security services, and the international media.
VOICE OVER:
This is a series of films about how and why that fantasy was created, and who it benefits. At the heart of the story are two groups: the American neoconservatives, and the radical Islamists. Last week's episode ended in the late '90s with both groups marginalized and out of power. But with the attacks of September 11th, the fates of both dramatically changed. The Islamists, after their moment of triumph, were virtually destroyed within months, while the neoconservatives took power in Washington. But then, the neoconservatives began to reconstruct the Islamists. They created a phantom enemy. And as this nightmare fantasy began to spread, politicians realized the newfound power it gave them in a deeply disillusioned age. Those with the darkest nightmares became the most powerful.
[OPENING TITLES: THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES / THE RISE OF THE POLITICS OF FEAR / THE SHADOWS IN THE CAVE]
[TITLE: AFGHANISTAN 1998]
VOICE OVER:
At the end of the 1990s, Osama bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan. He was accompanied by Ayman Zawahiri, the most influential ideologist of the Islamist movement. For 20 years, Zawahiri had struggled to create revolutions in the Arab world, but all attempt had ended in bloody failure.
[EXCERPT, CNN EXCLUSIVE VIDEO]
INTERVIEWER (in Arabic, English subtitles):
We haven't had any information about your whereabouts for some time. Where were you?
AYMAN ZAWAHIRI:
{?} I was just home and clubs.
INTERVIEWER:
Not in Afghanistan? Somewhere else?
ZAWAHIRI:
Everywhere, everywhere.
INTERVIEWER:
Everywhere?
ZAWAHIRI:
I am a Muslim. Being a Muslim, you are wanted everywhere. Because if you -- just if you say no to the superpowers, this immediately in itself is a crime you are wanted for.
INTERVIEWER:
{?} Yes, but isn't what you do not to do with arms?
ZAWAHIRI:
{?} It's aggressive but ask Allah, and he is greater than superpower.
VOICE OVER:
Zawahiri was a follower of the Egyptian revolutionary, Sayyed Qutb, who had been executed in 1966. Qutb's vision had been of a new type of modern state. It would contain all of the benefits of Western science and technology, but it would use Islam as a moral framework to protect people from the culture of Western liberalism. Qutb believed that this culture infected the minds of Muslims, turning them into selfish creatures who threatened to destroy the shared values that held society together. Throughout the 80s and 90s, Zawahiri had tried to persuade the masses to rise up and topple the rulers who had allowed this corruption to infect their countries.
[EXCERPT, VIDEOTAPE OF SADAT ASSASSINATION]
[CUT TO AYMAN ZAWAHIRI IN EGYPTIAN COURTROOM CELL]
ZAWAHIRI [haranguing courtroom]:
We want to speak to the whole world. Who are we?
VOICE OVER:
But the revolutionaries became trapped in a horrific escalation of violence, because the masses refused to follow them. Islamism failed as a mass movement, and Zawahiri now came to the conclusion that a new strategy was needed.
GILLES KEPEL, HISTORIAN OF ISLAMIST MOVEMENT:
They had no revolution at all. I mean, they had failed in their takeover, they had failed to topple the powers that be, and, you know, they became more and more interested in this idea that only a small vanguard could be successful. I mean, they had lost confidence in the spontaneous capacity of the masses to be mobilised. Then they decided to change strategy completely, and instead of striking at what they called the ''near enemy'' -- i.e., the local regimes -- they decided that they could strike at the ''far away enemy'' -- i.e., at the West, at America -- and that would impress the masses, and the masses would be mobilised.
[TITLE: NAIROBI, AUGUST 1998]
VOICE OVER:
Zawahiri and bin Laden began implementing this new strategy in August, 1998. Two huge suicide bombs were detonated outside American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing more than 200 people. The bombings had a dramatic effect on the West. For the first time, the name ''bin Laden'' entered the public consciousness as a terrorist mastermind.
[CUT TO AFGHANISTAN]
VOICE OVER:
The suicide bombers had been recruited by bin Laden from the Islamist training camps in Afghanistan. But his and Zawahiri's operation was very much on the fringes of the Islamist movement. The overwhelming majority of the fighters in these camps had nothing at all to do with bin Laden or international terrorism. They were training to fight régimes in their own countries, such as Uzbekistan, Kashmir, and Chechnia. Their aim was to establish Islamist societies in the Western world, and they had no interest in attacking America. Bin Laden helped fund some of the camps, and in return was allowed to look for volunteers for his operations. But a number of senior Islamists were against his new strategy, including members of Zawahiri's own group, Islamic Jihad.
[EXCERPT, CNN EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: BIN LADEN, SURROUNDED BY ARMED, MASKED SOLDIERS]
VOICE OVER:
Even bin Laden's displays of strength to the Western media were faked. The fighters in this video had been hired for the day and told to bring their own weapons. For beyond this small group, bin Laden had no formal organisation -- until the Americans invented one for him.
[CUT TO MANHATTAN CITYSCAPE]
[TITLE: MANHATTAN, JANUARY 2001]
VOICE OVER:
In January, 2001, a trial began in a Manhattan courtroom of four men accused of the embassy bombings in east Africa. But the Americans had also decided to prosecute bin Laden in his absence. But to do this under American law, the prosecutors needed evidence of a criminal organisation because, as with the Mafia, that would allow them to prosecute the head of the organisation even if he could not be linked directly to the crime. And the evidence for that organisation was provided for them by an ex-associate of bin Laden's called Jamal al-Fadl.
JASON BURKE, AUTHOR, ''AL QAEDA'':
During the investigation of the 1998 bombings, there is a walk-in source, Jamal al-Fadl, who is a Sudanese militant who was with bin Laden in the early 90s, who has been passed around a whole series of Middle East secret services, none of whom want much to do with him, and who ends up in America and is taken on by -- uh -- the American government, effectively, as a key prosecution witness and is given a huge amount of American taxpayers' money at the same time. And his account is used as raw material to build up a picture of Al Qaeda. The picture that the FBI want to build up is one that will fit the existing laws that they will have to use to prosecute those responsible for the bombing. Now, those laws were drawn up to counteract organised crime: the Mafia, drugs crime, crimes where people being a member of an organisation is extremely important. You have to have an organisation to get a prosecution. And you have al-Fadl and a number of other witness, a number of other sources, who are happy to feed into this. You've got material that, looked at in a certain way, can be seen to show this organisation's existence. You put the two together and you get what is the first bin Laden myth -- the first Al Qaeda myth. And because it's one of the first, it's extremely influential.
VOICE OVER:
The picture al-Fadl drew for the Americans of bin Laden was of an all-powerful figure at the head of a large terrorist network that had an organised network of control. He also said that bin Laden had given this network a name: ''Al Qaeda.'' It was a dramatic and powerful picture of bin Laden, but it bore little relationship to the truth.
[EXCERPT, CNN EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: BIN LADEN AND SOLDIERS]
VOICE OVER:
The reality was that bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri had become the focus of a loose association of disillusioned Islamist militants who were attracted by the new strategy. But there was no organisation. These were militants who mostly planned their own operations and looked to bin Laden for funding and assistance. He was not their commander. There is also no evidence that bin Laden used the term ''Al Qaeda'' to refer to the name of a group until after September the 11th, when he realized that this was the term the Americans have given it.
[CUT TO MANHATTAN SKYLINE]
VOICE OVER:
In reality, Jamal al-Fadl was on the run from bin Laden, having stolen money from him. In return for his evidence, the Americans gave him witness protection in America and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many lawyers at the trial believed that al-Fadl exaggerated and lied to give the Americans the picture of a terrorist organisation that they needed to prosecute bin Laden.
SAM SCHMIDT, DEFENCE LAWYER EMBASSY BOMBINGS TRIAL:
And there were selective portions of al-Fadl's testimony that I believe was false, to help support the picture that he helped the Americans join together. I think he lied in a number of specific testimony about a unified image of what this organisation was. It made Al Qaeda the new Mafia or the new Communists. It made them identifiable as a group and therefore made it easier to prosecute any person associated with Al Qaeda for any acts or statements made by bin Laden -- who talked a lot.
BURKE:
The idea -- which is critical to the FBI's prosecution -- that bin Laden ran a coherent organisation with operatives and cells all around the world of which you could be a member is a myth. There is no Al Qaeda organisation. There is no international network with a leader, with cadres who will unquestioningly obey orders, with tentacles that stretch out to sleeper cells in America, in Africa, in Europe. That idea of a coherent, structured terrorist network with an organised capability simply does not exist.
VOICE OVER:
What did exist was a powerful idea that was about to inspire a single, devastating act that would lead the whole world into believing the myth that had begun to be constructed in the Manhattan courtroom.
[CUT TO MANHATTAN SKYLINE: WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS . ONE TOWER HAS BEEN HIT, AND IS ON FIRE .]
MAN (off-camera):
What's this other jet doing? What's this other jet doing?
WOMAN (off-camera):
What the hell's that?
[AIRCRAFT ENTERS VIEW FROM LEFT, CRASHES INTO SECOND TOWER. FIREBALL ERUPTS .]
MAN:
Holy -- fuck!
WOMAN:
Oh my God! Oh my God! Jesus fucking Christ!
[ARM PASSES BEFORE CAMERA LENS]
MAN #2:
Don't touch it!
WOMAN [SOBBING]:
Oh my God! Oh my God!
[OTHER EXCLAMATIONS AND SOBBING IN BACKGROUND AS SMOKE BILLOWS FROM TOWERS]
VOICE OVER:
The attack on America by 19 hijackers shocked the world. It was Ayman Zawahiri's new strategy, implemented in a brutal and spectacular way. But neither he nor bin Laden were the originators of what was called the ''Planes Operation.'' It was the brainchild of an Islamist militant called Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who came to bin Laden for funding and help in finding volunteers. But in the wake of panic created by the attacks, the politicians reached for the model which had been created by the trial earlier that year: the hijackers were just the tip of a vast, international terrorist network which was called, ''Al Qaeda.''
[CUT TO INTERIOR, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, UNITED STATES CONGRESS]
GEORGE W BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES [ON SPEAKER'S PODIUM]:
Al Qaeda is to terror what the Mafia is to crime. There are thousands of these terrorists in more than 60 countries. They are recruited from their own nations and neighborhoods, and brought to camps in places like Afghanistan, where they are trained in the tactics of terror.
[CUT TO PENTAGON BRIEFING ROOM]
DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE:
This one network, Al Qaeda, that's receiving so much discussion and publicity make have activities in 50 to 60 countries, including the United States.
[CUT TO OTHER INTERIOR, PODIUM]
BUSH:
Our war is against networks and groups, people who coddle them, people who try to hide them, people who fund them. This is our calling.
VOICE OVER:
And the attacks had another dramatic effect: they brought the neoconservatives back to power in America. When George Bush first became president, he had appointed neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz, and their allies like Donald Rumsfeld, to his administration. But their grand vision of America's role in the world was largely ignored by this new régime.
[TITLE: SEPTEMBER 2000]
[CUT TO PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE]
BUSH:
I just don't think it's the role of the United States to walk into another country and say, ''We do it this way, so should you.''
[TITLE: BUT NOW]
BUSH:
We're going to find those who, uh, who, uh, uh, those evil-doers.
VOICE OVER:
But now, the neoconservatives became all-powerful, because this terror network proved that what they had been predicting through the 1990s was correct: that America was at risk from terrifying new forces in a hostile world. A small group formed that began to shape America's response to the attacks. At its heart were Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, along with the vice-president, Dick Cheney, and Richard Perle, who was a senior advisor to the Pentagon. The last time these men had been in power together was 20 years before, under President Reagan. Back then, they had taken on and, as they saw it, defeated a source of evil that wanted to take over America: the Soviet Union. And now they saw this new war on terror in the same epic terms.
RICHARD PERLE, CHAIRMAN PENTAGON DEFENSE POLICY BOARD 2001-2003:
The struggle against Soviet totalitarianism was a struggle between fundamental value questions. ''Good'' and ''evil'' is about as effective a shorthand as I can imagine in this regard, and there's something rather similar going on in the war on terror. It isn't a war on terror, it's a war on terrorists who want to impose an intolerant tyranny on all mankind, an Islamic universe in which we are all compelled to accept their beliefs and live by their lights, and in that sense this is a battle between good and evil.
VOICE OVER:
But, as previous episodes have shown, the neoconservatives distorted and exaggerated the Soviet threat. They created the image of a hidden, international web of evil run from Moscow that planned to dominate the world, when, in reality, the Soviet Union was on its last legs, collapsing from within. Now, they did the same with the Islamists. They took a failing movement which had lost mass support and began to reconstruct it into the image of a powerful network of evil, controlled from the center by bin Laden from his lair in Afghanistan. They did this because it fitted with their vision of America's unique destiny to fight an epic battle against the forces of evil throughout the world.
VINCENT CANNISTRARO, HEAD OF COUNTER - TERRORISM, CIA, 1988-90:
What the neoconservatives are doing is taking a concept that they developed during the competition with the Soviet Union, i.e., Soviet Communism was evil, it wanted to take over our country, wanted to take over our people, our classrooms, our society. It was that kind of concept of evil that they took -- an exaggerated one, to be sure -- and then apply it to a new threat, where it didn't apply at all, and yet it was layered with the same kind of cultural baggage. The policy says there's a network, the policy says that network is evil, they want to infiltrate our classrooms, they want to take our society, they want all our women to wear, you know, veils, and this is what we have to deal with and therefore since we know it's evil let's just kill it, and that will make it go away.
[CUT TO TANKS AND VEHICLES ROLLING DOWN A ROAD IN AFGHANISTAN]
VOICE OVER:
And so the Americans set off to invade Afghanistan, to find and destroy the heart of this network.
[TITLE: AFGHANISTAN, NOVEMBER 2001]
[CUT TO DESOLATE TERRAIN, MOUNTAINS IN BACKGROUND, SHOOTING IN FOREGROUND]
VOICE OVER:
To do this, the Americans allied themselves with a group called the Northern Alliance. They were a loose collection of warlords, fighting a war of resistance against the Taliban, the Islamists who controlled Afghanistan. The Taliban's best troops were the thousands of foreign fighters from the training camps who the Northern Alliance hated.
[NORTHERN ALLIANCE TROOPS RETRIEVE IDENTITY PAPERS FROM DEAD TALIBAN FIGHTERS . ONE HOLDS AN IDENTITY CARD UP TO THE CAMERA]
NORTHERN ALLIANCE SOLDIER:
Pakistan, eh! Pakistan! Pakistan!
VOICE OVER:
And now, they took their revenge on the foreign fighters. The Americans believed that these men were Al Qaeda terrorists, and the Northern Alliance did nothing to disabuse them of this, because they were paid by the Americans for each prisoner they delivered. But the majority of these fighters had never had anything to do with bin Laden or international terrorism. Both they and the Taliban were radical nationalists who wanted to create Islamist societies in their own countries. But now, they were either killed or taken off to Guant{{225}}namo Bay and Islamism, as an organised movement for changing the Muslim world, was obliterated in Afghanistan. But as it disappeared, it was replaced by ever more extravagant fantasies about the power and reach of the Al Qaeda network.
[TITLE: TORA BORA]
VOICE OVER:
In December, the Northern Alliance told the Americans that bin Laden was hiding in the mountains of Tora Bora. They were convinced they had found the heart of his organisation.
[EXCERPT, ''MEET THE PRESS, '' NBC TV]
TIM RUSSERT:
The search for Osama bin Laden: there was constant discussion about him hiding out in caves and I think many times the American people have a perception that it's a little hole dug out of the side of a mountain.
DONALD RUMSFELD [OFF CAMERA]:
Oh, no.
[CUT TO DIAGRAM OF HIDDEN CAVE HEADQUARTERS MARKED ''SOURCE: THE TIMES OF LONDON'', DEPICTING A MULTI-STORY UNDERGROUND COMMAND POST]
RUSSERT:
This is it. This is a fortress.
RUMSFELD:
Yes.
RUSSERT:
A complex. Multi-tiered. [READING, AS LABELS ARE DISPLAYED ON DIAGRAM] ''Bedrooms and Offices'' on the top, as you can see. ''Secret Exits'' on the side, and on the bottom. ''Cut Deep to Avoid Thermal Detection.'' A ventilation system, to allow people to breathe and to carry on. The entrances, large enough to drive trucks and even tanks. Even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation.
[CUT TO STUDIO]
RUMSFELD:
Oh, you bet. This -- this is serious business. And -- and there's not one of those; there are many of those.
[CUT TO TORA BORA, AFGHANISTAN: B-52S BOMBING MOUNTAINS]
VOICE OVER:
For days, the Americans bombed the mountains of Tora Bora with the most powerful weapons they had. The Northern Alliance had been paid more than a million dollars for their help and information, and now their fighters set off up the mountains to storm bin Laden's fortress and bring back the Al Qaeda terrorists and their leader.
[NORTHERN ALLIANCE SOLDIERS SEARCHING CAVE OPENINGS]
VOICE OVER:
But all they found were a few small caves, which were either empty or had been used to store ammunition. There was no underground bunker system, no secret tunnels: the fortress didn't exist. The Northern Alliance did produce some prisoners they claimed were Al Qaeda fighters, but there was no proof of this, and one rumor was that the Northern Alliance was simply kidnapping anyone who looked remotely like an Arab and selling them to the Americans for yet more money.
[FADE TO AMERICAN FORCES IN TORA BORA]
VOICE OVER:
The Americans now began to search all the caves in all the mountains in eastern Afghanistan for the hidden Al Qaeda network.
AMERICAN SOLDIER, SPEAKING INTO RADIO:
We found a cave. The rest of it is open. Break.
[CUT TO INTERIOR, COMMAND POST]
AMERICAN ARMY SERGEANT:
If nobody went up to look into that cave, people could've been hiding up there for days and watching everything that we did.
[CUT TO VIEW OF MISSILE STRIKING CAVE OPENING, SOLDIERS INSPECT DAMAGE]
VOICE OVER:
But wherever they looked, there was nothing there. Al Qaeda seemed to have completely disappeared.
[FADE TO VIEW OF HELICOPTERS FLYING OVER AFGHANISTAN MOUNTAIN RANGE]
VOICE OVER:
But then, the British arrived to help. They were convinced they could hunt down Al Qaeda because of what they said was their unique experience in fighting terrorism in Northern Ireland. They could succeed where others had failed.
[CLOSE UP ON BRIGADIER ROGER LANE, COMMANDER, BRITISH FORCES, ADDRESSING AN OFF-CAMERA AUDIENCE]
BRIGADIER LANE:
The hunt for Al Qaeda Taliban goes on, and we stand shoulder to shoulder with the United States and our other coalition allies in the global war on terrorism.
[TITLE: FIVE WEEKS LATER]
INTERVIEWER:
But how many Al Qaeda have you captured?
LANE:
We haven't, uh, captured any Al Qaeda, but…
INTERVIEWER:
And how many have you actually managed to kill here in south-east Afghanistan?
LANE:
We haven't killed any.
[EXCERPT, THE THIEF OF BAGHDAD: MARKETPLACE SCENE, SCROLL IS UNROLLED READING:
Ten thousand pieces of gold for the body of Ali Baba and the destruction of the band of thieves.
by order of
Hulagu, Khan of the Mongols
and Ruler of Baghdad]
[SCENES OF MEN ON HORSEBACK JUMPING CHASMS AND ESCAPING]
[CUT TO CNN EXCLUSIVE VIDEO OF BIN LADEN, WAVING .]
[FADE TO BLACK]
[FADE TO AFGHANISTAN EXTERIOR]
VOICE OVER:
The terrible truth was that there was nothing there because Al Qaeda as an organisation did not exist. The attacks on America had been planned by a small group that had come together around bin Laden in the late 90s. What united them was an idea: an extreme interpretation of Islamism developed by Ayman Zawahiri. With the American invasion, that group had been destroyed, killed or scattered. What was left was the idea, and the real danger was the way this idea could inspire groups and individuals around the world who had no relationship to each other. In looking for an organisation, the Americans and the British were chasing a phantom enemy and missing the real threat.
JASON BURKE, AUTHOR, ''AL QAEDA'':
I was with the Royal Marines as they trooped around eastern Afghanistan, and every time they got a location for a supposed Al Qaeda or Taliban element or base, they'd turn up and there was no one there, or there'd be a few startled shepherds, and that struck me then as being a wonderful image to the war on terror, because people are looking for something that isn't there. There is no organisation with its terrorist operatives, cells, sleeper cells, so on and so forth. What there is is an idea, prevalent among young, angry Muslim males throughout the Islamic world. That idea is what poses a threat.
[CUT TO WASHINGTON, D.C., MONUMENTS AND SKYLINE]
VOICE OVER:
But the neoconservatives were now increasingly locked into this fantasy, and next they set out to uncover the network in America itself.
PAUL WOLFOWITZ, US DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE:
This is a network that has penetrated into some 60 countries, including very definitely our own, and it's got to be rooted out. Our intelligence priority, in many ways, is getting after the network here in the United States first. We will do whatever we need to do to go after these networks and dismantle them.
[CUT TO FLYOVER OF NEW ENGLAND TOWN]
VOICE OVER:
The American government set out to search for the Al Qaeda organisation inside its own country. Thousands were detained as all branches of the law and the military were told to look for terrorists.
[CUT TO VIEW OF GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE, SAN FRANCISCO]
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL OFFICER:
You don't really know what a terrorist looks like, what kind of car they drive, or anything else, so it's just basically everything and everybody and anything out here.
[CUT TO NEWS TITLE: ''AMERICA UNDER ATTACK'']
[CUT TO SCENES OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES]
VOICE OVER:
And, bit by bit, the government found the network: a series of hidden cells in cities around the country from Buffalo to Portland.
[CUT TO PRESIDENTIAL PODIUM]
GEORGE W BUSH:
We've thwarted terrorists in Buffalo and Seattle, Portland, Detroit, North Carolina, and Tampa, Florida. We're determined to stop the enemy before he can strike our people.
VOICE OVER:
The Americans called them ''sleeper cells, '' and decided that they had just been waiting to strike. But in reality there is very little evidence that any of those arrested had anything at all to do with terrorist plots. From Portland to the suburb of Buffalo called Lackawanna, yet again the Americans were chasing a phantom enemy.
DAVID COLE, PROFESSOR OF LAW, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY:
They say ''terrorist sleeper cell.'' That's what -- they -- they call the Lackawanna people a terrorist sleeper cell, the Detroit people a terrorist cell, the Portland people a terrorist cell. But when you look at the details, the facts just don't support that, and they have not proved that any group within the United States has plotted to engage in any terrorist -- uh -- activity within the United States in all of the cases that they've brought since 9/11.
[CUT TO HOME VIDEO OF YOUTHS AT DISNEYLAND, CALIFORNIA]
VOICE OVER:
The evidence behind all of the sleeper cell cases is flimsy and often bizarre. This tape was one of the central pieces of evidence in the first of the cases. It was found in a raid on this house…
[CUT TO EXTERIOR VIEW OF HOUSE]
VO ... in Detroit. Four Arab men were arrested on suspicion of being an Al Qaeda sleeper cell.
[VIEWS OF ARREST PHOTOGRAPHS OF SUSPECTS . TITLE: DETROIT ACCUSED]
VOICE OVER:
They had been accused by another immigrant called Mr Hmimssa. But Mr Hmimssa was, in reality, an international con man with 12 aliases and wanted for fraud across America.
[CUT TO PHOTOGRAPH ; TITLE: YOUSSEF HMIMSSA, US GOVERNMENT WITNESS]
VOICE OVER:
Despite this, the FBI offered to reduce his sentence for fraud if he testified against the men. And to back up Mr Hmimssa's allegations, the FBI turned to the videotape. On the surface it was the innocent record of a trip to Disneyland by a group of teenagers who had nothing to do with the accused, but the government had discovered a hidden and sinister purpose to the tape.
RON HANSEN, REPORTER - THE DETROIT NEWS:
The government expert who has looked into surveillance tapes -- ''casing tapes, '' as he referred to them -- said that one of the objectives of making these kinds of tapes is to disguise the nature, the real purpose, of the tape, and he explained it that the tape is made to look benign, made to look like a tourist tape to obscure its real purpose as a tape to case Disneyland, and that the very appearance of it as being just a tourist tape is actually evidence that it's not a tourist tape.
[CUT TO DISNEYLAND VIDEO ; YOUTH IS SPEAKING TO CAMERA]
YOUTH [HOLDING IMAGINARY MICROPHONE]:
Al-Jazeera, Hollywood, Los Angeles, California. Hello?
[CUT TO DISNEYLAND VIDEO ; INTERIOR OF INDIANA JONES RIDE]
RON HANSEN:
I could never get past the fact that the tape just looked like a tourist tape. The Disneyland ride, for example, was a lengthy queue, people just making their way to the ride. The camera occasionally pans to look at the rocks on the wall, made to look like an Indiana Jones movie, and after several minutes the camera pans across and shows a trash can momentarily, and then continues off to look into the crowd. The expert basically said that, by flashing on that trash can for a moment, the people who are part of this conspiracy to conduct these kinds of terrorist operations, they would understand what this is all about: how to locate a bomb in Disneyland in California.
[CUT TO VIEW OF YOUTHS IN RESTAURANT]
YOUTH, WAVING:
Hello!
RON HANSEN:
All the talking and bantering were intended to disguise the hidden message contained within the tape.
[CUT TO VIEW OF YOUTHS DANCING ON VIDEOTAPE]
VOICE OVER:
The government was convinced that the tape was full of hidden messages. A brief shot of a tree outside the group's hotel room was there, they said, to show where to place a sniper to attack the cars on the freeway.
[CUT TO SHAKY VIEW OF SHADOW ALONG SIDEWALK AS INDIVIDUAL CARRIES CAMERA]
VOICE OVER:
And what looked like a camera which had accidentally been left running was in reality a terrorist secretly counting out distances to show others where to place a bomb.
[CUT TO VIEW OF US AIR FORCE JET LANDING]
VOICE OVER:
And the government also said that the Detroit cell was planning to attack US military bases around the world. Yet again, they found hidden evidence of this in a day planner they discovered under the sofa in the house in Detroit. What looked like doodles were in reality, they said, a plan to attack a US base in Turkey.
WILLIAM SWOR, DEFENCE LAWYER, DETROIT SLEEPER CELL TRIAL, INDICATING COPY OF DRAWINGS FROM DAY PLANNER:
The government brought in its security officer from the base to testify that she interpreted this as being the main runways. She identified these as being AWACS airplanes and these as being fighter jets. She said that these solid lines were lines of fire and she also said that this down here was a hardened bunker.
VOICE OVER:
But the drawings in the day planner were discovered to have actually been the work of a madman. They were the fantasies of a Yemeni who believed that he was the minister of defence for the whole of the Middle East. He had committed suicide a year before any of the accused had arrived in Detroit, leaving the day planner lying under the sofa in the house. Despite this, two of the accused were found guilty. But then, the government's only witness, Mr Hmimssa, told two of his cellmates that he had made the whole thing up to get his fraud charges reduced. The terrorism convictions have now been overturned by the judge in the case, but it was acclaimed by the President as the first success in the war on terror at home.
[INTERIOR, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SPEAKER'S DAIS]
GEORGE W BUSH:
We have the terrorists on the run. We're keeping them on the run. One by one the terrorists are learning the meaning of American justice.
[CUT TO VIDEOTAPE, YOUTHS HAVING A PILLOW FIGHT]
[CUT TO BUFFALO, NEW YORK, SKYLINE]
VOICE OVER:
Another case, in the city of Buffalo, New York, seemed on the surface to be more substantial. Six young Yemeni-Americans had gone to an Islamist training camp in Afghanistan.
[CUT TO AFGHANISTAN, TRAINING CAMP]
VOICE OVER:
They travelled there in early 2001 and spent between 2 and 6 weeks training and being taught Islamist revolutionary theory. Two of them even met bin Laden on one of his tours of the camp. They then returned to the Buffalo suburb of Lackawanna, where they lived, but they did nothing. The FBI heard about their trip and they watched the six men around the clock for nearly a year, but there was no suspicious behavior.
[CUT TO LACKAWANNA, SUBURBAN STREET]
VOICE OVER:
But then, one of the men, Mr al-Bakri, went to Bahrain and sent his friends an E-mail. It said he was going to get married and that he wouldn't be seeing them for awhile. The CIA, who had been monitoring their E-mails, understood this to be a coded message: the cell was about to launch a suicide attack on the US Fifth Fleet.
JOHN MOLLOY, DEFENCE LAWYER, LACKAWANNA TRIAL:
The FBI, the government, took that phrase to mean something sinister. They believed that the word ''wedding'' was a code. They believed that the phrase ''not seeing you anymore'' indicated that Muktar al-Bakri was a suicide bomber. The reality is that Mr al-Bakri was in Bahrain to get married and the reality of him getting married was that he wouldn't be around his friends anymore.
[CUT TO NEWS FOOTAGE OF POLICE]
[CUT TO US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT]
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL:
Good afternoon. In the past 24 hours, United States law enforcement has identified and disrupted an Al Qaeda-trained terrorist cell on American soil.
VOICE OVER:
The arrests were announced proudly by Washington as another sleeper cell plotting an attack. But it soon became clear that there was no evidence for this at all, other than the E-mail.
COLE:
And the best the government can point to as a sleeper cell are these, you know, young men in Lackawanna, in New York, who, yes, went to Afghanistan, trained in an Al Qaeda training camp, but to all appearances had no intention to ever take any action on the basis of that. One of them faked an injury to try to get out early. They came back to the United States. We had them under intensive surveillance and we found no evidence -- not one shred of evidence -- that they ever planned or intended to engage in any kind of criminal, much less terrorist, act. That's the best they can show for a sleeper cell.
VOICE OVER:
Faced with the fact that there was no evidence, the government quietly dropped any charges of their being a terrorist cell. Instead, they were prosecuted simply for having gone to the training camp, and for having bought uniforms there. And all the other cases were even flimsier: A group of students who supported the liberation of Kashmir were found paint-balling in the woods of Virginia. They were convicted of training to attack America. A group of African-Americans from Oregon tried to go to Afghanistan to support the Taliban but got lost in China. All these groups, the government said, were part of a hidden and terrifying Al Qaeda network.
SWOR:
The government had a legitimate concern at the beginning, but they let that concern, and they took it, and they made it a panic. They had reasonable questions and took them and made a complete fantasy out of them. They started out with a conclusion and then filled in all the blanks to the questions. So this was totally driven by the need -- or the desire -- to have terrorists. You build this conclusion based on this assumption, and this assumption, and this assumption, and, sure, if you go -- if you build assumptions upon assumptions, you can go anywhere!
INTERVIEWER:
It's a work of imagination.
SWOR:
It is. It's a fantasy, and it's a fantasy that it was politically expedient to sell.
[CUT TO PRESIDENTIAL PRESS CONFERENCE]
GEORGE W BUSH:
And make no mistake about it: we got a war here just like we got a war abroad.
[CUT TO BRITAIN: GOLF COURSES ; INTERIOR, DOWNING STREET: DAVID BLUNKETT]
VOICE OVER:
In Britain, too, the government and most of the media have created the overwhelming impression that there is a hidden network of Al Qaeda sleeper cells waiting to attack.
[CUT TO POLICE OFFICERS AT CRIME SCENE]
VOICE OVER:
But, yet again, there is very little evidence for this. Of the 664 people arrested under the Terrorism Act since September the 11th, none of them have been convicted of belonging to Al Qaeda. Only 3 people have so far been convicted of having any association with any Islamist groups, and none of those convictions were for being involved in a terror plot; they were for fundraising, or posessing Islamist literature. The majority of people convicted under the Terrorism Act since September the 11th have actually been members of Irish terrorist groups like the UVF or the Real IRA. And many of the arrests that were dramatically announced as being part of a hidden Al Qaeda network were, in reality, as absurd as the cases in America. For example, the London police swooped on a Mr Zain ul-Abedin who they said was running an international network for terrorist training. It turned out to be a self-defence course for bodyguards. He called it ''Ultimate Jihad Challenge.'' His only client was a security guard from a supermarket, who wanted to learn how to defend himself against shoplifters. Mr Zain ul-Abedin was cleared of all charges. Then there was the Hogmanay terror cell who, it was alleged, were planning to attack Edinburgh. All charges against them were quietly dropped when it was revealed that a key part of the evidence, a map that showed the targets they were going to attack, turned out to have been left in their flat by an Australian backpacker who had ringed the tourist sites he wanted to see. And even the most frightening and high profile of the plots uncovered turned out to be without foundation. No one was ever arrested for planning gas attacks on the London tubes; it was a fantasy that swept through the media. Just as in America, there is no evidence yet of the terrifying and sinister network lurking under the surface of our society which both government and the media continually tell us is there.
[CUT TO MEETING ROOM]
INTERVIEWER:
So there was no network.
BILL DURODIE, DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL CENTRE FOR SECURITY ANALYSIS, KINGS COLLEGE:
No.
INTERVIEWER:
Never.
DURODIE:
Probably not.
INTERVIEWER:
We invented it.
BILL DURODIE:
''Invention'' is too string a term. I think we projected it -- um, we projected our own worst fears, and that what we see is a fantasy that's been created.
[CUT TO BBC NEWS INTERVIEW]
GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN:
Al Qaeda is a global network with global reach.
[CUT TO BBC NEWS READER]
READER:
The target, a deadly web of terror.
[CUT TO BILL DURODIE IN MEETING ROOM]
DURODIE:
I'm not saying that an atrocity might not happen on the British mainland. What I am saying is that we have an exaggerated perception of the possibility of terrorism that is quite disabling, and we only need to look at the evidence to understand that the figures simply don't bear out the way that we have responded as a society.
[CUT TO LONDON SKYLINE, WESTMINSTER, ETC .]
VOICE OVER:
What the British and American governments have done is both distort and exaggerate the real nature of the threat. There are dangerous and fanatical groups around the world who've been inspired by the extreme Islamist theories, and they are prepared to use the techniques of mass terror on civilians. The bombings in Madrid showed this only too clearly. But this is not a new phenomenon. What is new is the way the American and other governments have transformed this complex and disparate threat into a simplistic fantasy of an organised web of uniquely powerful terrorists who may strike anywhere and at any moment. But no one questioned this fantasy because, increasingly, it was serving the interests of so many people. For the press, television, and hundreds of terrorism experts, the fact that it seemed so like fiction made it irresistible to their audiences. And the Islamists, too, began to realise that by feeding this media fantasy they could become a powerful organisation -- if only in people's imaginations.
The prime mover in this was one of bin Laden's associates, who had been captured by the Americans. He was called Abu Zubaydah. He began to tell his interrogators of terrifying plots that Al Qaeda was preparing, some of which, he said, they had copied from Hollywood movies like Godzilla, which they had watched in Afghanistan.
[CUT TO INTERIOR, BRIEFING ROOM]
DR JOHN PRADOS, NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE, WASHINGTON DC:
Zubaydah told the interrogators a set of stories based on what he thought would alarm us. He told us, for example -- coming out of a movie that had been recent at that time, Godzilla, in which the Brooklyn Bridge was destroyed by the monster -- he told us that Al Qaeda was interested in destroying the Brooklyn Bridge. He told us of attacks on mass transit sources like subway trains. He told us there were intentions of attacking apartment buildings and shopping centers, the Statue of Liberty, all manner of things.
[EXCERPT, GODZILLA: MONSTER RISING OVER BROOKLYN BRIDGE]
[CUT TO PRESS CONFERENCE ROOM, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, WASHINGTON, D.C.]
JOHN ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES:
Recent intelligence reports suggest that Al Qaeda leaders have emphasised planning for attacks on apartment buildings, hotels, and other soft or lightly-secured targets in the United States.
[CUT TO ANOTHER PRESS CONFERENCE]
ASHCROFT:
Terrorists are considering physical attacks against US financial institutions.
[EXCERPT, GODZILLA: MONSTER RAMPAGING THROUGH STREETS, CRUSHING CARS]
VOICE OVER:
And Abu Zubaydah also told his interrogators of a terrifying new weapon the Islamists intended to use: an explosive device that could spray radiation through cities, the ''dirty bomb.''
[EXCERPT, CBS EVENING NEWS]
DAN RATHER:
First, a CBS News exclusive about a captured Al Qaeda leader who says his fellow terrorists have the know-how to build a very dangerous weapon and get it to the United States.
VOICE OVER:
And the media took the bait. They portrayed the dirty bomb as an extraordinary weapon that would kill thousands of people, and, in the process, they made the hidden enemy even more terrifying. But, in reality, the threat of a dirty bomb is yet another illusion. Its aim is to spread radioactive material through a conventional explosion, but almost all studies of such a possible weapon have concluded that the radiation spread in this way would not kill anybody because the radioactive material would be so dispersed, and, providing the area was cleaned promptly, the long-term effects would be negligible. In the past, both the American army and the Iraqi military tested such devices and both concluded that they were completely ineffectual weapons for this very reason.
[CUT TO INTERIOR, LIVING ROOM]
INTERVIEWER:
How dangerous would a dirty bomb be?
DR THEODORE ROCKWELL, NUCLEAR SCIENTIST AND RADIATION RISK EXPERT:
The deaths would be few, if any, and the answer is, probably none.
INTERVIEWER:
Really?
ROCKWELL:
Yes. And that's been said over and over again, but then people immediately say after that, ''But, you know, people won't believe that, and they'll panic.'' And then all the people working on this project, you know, the defence and so forth, breathe a big sigh of relief because they got their problem back: you know, we're gonna all panic. I don't think it would kill anybody and I think you'll have trouble finding a serious report that would claim otherwise. The Department of Energy actually set up such a test and they actually measured what happened. And they -- they -- the measurements were extremely low. They calculated that the most exposed individual would get a fairly high dose -- not life-threatening, but fairly high -- and I checked into how the calculation was done, and they assume that after the attack, no one moves for one year. One year. Now, that's ridiculous.
[CUT TO ANOTHER INTERIOR, LIVING ROOM]
LEWIS Z KOCH, BULLETIN OF ATOMIC SCIENTISTS:
The dirty bomb -- the danger from radioactivity is basically next to nothing. The danger from panic, however, is horrendous. That's where the irony comes. This -- instead of the government saying, ''Look, this is not a serious weapon; the serious danger of this is the panic that would ensue, and there is no reason for panic. Don't panic.''
[CUT TO VIEW OF ATOMIC BOMB EXPLODING, DESTROYING TEST HOUSES AND OBJECTS]
BRITISH NARRATOR:
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not the end of our show; however, something very much like this could happen at any moment. We just thought we ought to prepare you and more or less put you in the mood. Thank you.
And now, back to our story.
[CUT, CITY SKYLINE]
VOICE OVER:
The scale of this fantasy just kept growing as more and more groups realised the power it gave them -- above all, the group that had been instrumental in first spreading the idea: the neoconservatives. Because they now found that they could use it to help them realise their vision: that America had a special destiny to overcome evil in the world, and this epic mission would give meaning and purpose to the American people.
[CUT, INTERIOR, ROOM IN IRAQ, SADDAM HUSSEIN AND OFFICERS]
VOICE OVER:
To do this, they were going to start with Iraq, and, just as they had discovered a hidden reality of terror beneath the surface in America, they now found hidden links that previously no one had suspected between the Al Qaeda network and Saddam Hussein.
[CUT, SPEAKER'S DAIS, UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES]
GEORGE W BUSH:
Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans, this time armed by Saddam Hussein.
[CUT, OFFICE INTERIOR]
RICHARD PERLE, CHAIRMAN, PENTAGON DEFENSE POLICY BOARD, 2001-2003:
I continue to be amazed at the people who say there are no links. It simply isn't true. What hasn't been established is a direct link between Saddam's intelligence and the 9/11 plotters, although even there there is evidence that suggests, very possibly, facilitation and assistance to the 9/11 hijackers.
INTERVIEWER:
There really is evidence?
PERLE:
There really is evidence.
INTERVIEWER:
So, when people say there is no association between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, they're wrong.
RICHARD PERLE:
They're flatly wrong.
INTERVIEWER:
Really?
RICHARD PERLE:
Absolutely wrong.
[CUT, INTERIOR, AL-JAZEERA STUDIOS ; ARABIC VOICES IN BACKGROUND]
[SUBTITLE: THE BOMBING HAS STARTED]
[VIEW OF TELEVISION MONITORS DISPLAYING ATTACK ON BAGHDAD ; CUT TO REACTION OF NEWSROOM STAFF]
VOICE OVER:
The driving force behind these new global policies in the war on terror was the power of a dark fantasy: a sinister web of hidden and interlinked threats that stretched around the world. And such was the power of that fantasy that it also began to transform the very nature of politics because, increasingly, politicians were discovering that their ability to imagine the future and the terrible dangers it held gave them a new and heroic role in the world.
[CUT TO SCENE OF FUTURISTIC ROADWAY AND COUPLE DRIVING IN FUTURE CAR]
VOICE OVER:
In the post-War years, politicians had also used their imaginations, but to project optimistic visions of a better future that they could create for their people, and it was these visions that gave them power and authority.
[CUT, INTERIOR, DOWNING STREET: ANGLE ON TONY BLAIR]
VOICE OVER:
But those dreams collapsed, and politicians like Tony Blair became more like managers of public life, their policies determined often by focus groups. But now, the war on terror allowed politicians like Blair to portray a new, grand vision of the future. But this vision was a dark one of imagined threats, and a new force began to drive politics: the fear of an imagined future.
[CUT, INTERIOR, TONY BLAIR ADDRESSING AUDIENCE]
TONY BLAIR:
Not a conventional fear about a conventional threat, but the fear that one day these new threats of weapons of mass destruction, rogue states, and international terrorism combine to deliver a catastrophe to our world. And then the shame of knowing that I saw that threat, day after day, and did nothing to stop it.
[CUT, ANOTHER ADDRESS]
BLAIR:
It may not erupt and engulf us this month or next, perhaps not even this year or next …
[CUT, CLOSE-UP ON TONY BLAIR, SPEAKING TO INTERVIEWER BEFORE STUDIO AUDIENCE]
BLAIR:
I just think these -- these dangers are there, I think that it's difficult sometimes for people to see how they all come together -- I think that it's my duty to tell it to you if I really believe it, and I do really believe it. I may be wrong in believing it, but I do believe it.
[CUT, EXTERIOR, MOONLIT, DARK CITY SKYLINE]
VOICE OVER:
What Blair argued was that faced by the new threat of a global terror network, the politician's role was now to look into the future and imagine the worst that might happen and then act ahead of time to prevent it. In doing this, Blair was embracing an idea that had actually been developed by the Green movement: it was called the ''precautionary principle.'' Back in the 1980s, thinkers within the ecology movement believed the world was being threatened by global warming, but at the time there was little scientific evidence to prove this. So they put forward the radical idea that governments had a higher duty: they couldn't wait for the evidence, because by then it would be too late; they had to act imaginatively, on intuition, in order to save the world from a looming catastrophe.
[CUT, INTERIOR, MEETING ROOM]
DURODIE:
In essence, the precautionary principle says that not having the evidence that something might be a problem is not a reason for not taking action as if it were a problem. That's a very famous triple-negative phrase that effectively says that action without evidence is justified. It requires imagining what the worst might be and applying that imagination upon the worst evidence that currently exists.
[CUT, INTERIOR, HALL ; ANGLE ON TONY BLAIR ADDRESSING STATE FUNCTION]
BLAIR:
Would Al Qaeda buy weapons of mass destruction if they could? Certainly. Does it have the financial resources? Probably. Would it use such weapons? Definitely.
[CUT, INTERIOR, MEETING ROOM]
DURODIE:
But once you start imagining what could happen, then -- then there's no limit. What if they had access to it? What if they could effectively deploy it? What if we weren't prepared? What it is is a shift from the scientific, ''what is'' evidence-based decision making to this speculative, imaginary, ''what if''-based, worst case scenario.
[CUT, EXTERIOR, CAMP X-RAY, Guant{{225}}namo Bay, Cuba]
VOICE OVER:
And it was this principle that now began to shape government policy in the war on terror. In both America and Britain, individuals were detained in high-security prisons, not for any crimes they had committed, but because the politicians believed -- or imagined -- that they might commit an atrocity in the future, even though there was no evidence they intended to do this. The American attorney general explained this shift to what he called the ''paradigm of prevention.''
[CUT, INTERIOR, HEARING ROOM, UNITED STATES CONGRESS]
ASHCROFT:
We had to make a shift in the way we thought about things, so being reactive, waiting for a crime to be committed, or waiting for there to be evidence of the commission of a crime didn't seem to us to be an appropriate way to protect the American people.
[CUT, INTERIOR, OFFICE]
DAVID COLE:
Under the preventive paradigm, instead of holding people accountable for what you can prove that they have done in the past, you lock them up based on what you think or speculate they might do in the future. And how -- how can a person who's locked up based on what you think they might do in the future disprove your speculation? It's impossible, and so what ends up happening is the government short-circuits all the processes that are designed to distinguish the innocent from the guilty because they simply don't fit this mode of locking people up for what they might do in the future.
VOICE OVER:
The supporters of the precautionary principle argue that this loss of rights is the price that society has to pay when faced by the unique and terrifying threat of the Al Qaeda network. But, as this series has shown, the idea of a hidden, organised web of terror is largely a fantasy, and by embracing the precautionary principle, the politicians have become trapped in a vicious circle: they imagine the worst about an organisation that doesn't even exist. But no one questions this because the very basis of the precautionary principle is to imagine the worst without supporting evidence, and, instead, those with the darkest imaginations become the most influential.
[CUT, INTERIOR, RESTAURANT]
DAVID JOHNSTON, INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST, NEW YORK TIMES:
You'll hear about meetings where terrorist matters are discussed in the intelligence community, and always the person with the most dire assessment, the person with the -- who has the, kind of, the strongest sense that something should be done will frequently carry the day at meetings. We thus believe the most dire estimate of what could happen here. The sense of disbelief has vanished.
INTERVIEWER:
So the person with the most vivid imagination becomes the most powerful.
JOHNSTON:
In a sense, that's correct.
[CUT, INTERIOR, FBI OFFICE]
FBI OFFICIAL:
We knew that Al Qaeda's tentacles were beginning to become far-reaching.
[CUT, INTERIOR, BRITISH MEETING ROOM]
BRITISH OFFICIAL:
There will be an attack. It is ''when'' within the United Kingdom; I think the ''if'' is academic.
[CUT, TONY BLAIR AT PODIUM, ADDRESSING AUDIENCE]
BLAIR:
It is only a matter of time, and its potential is huge.
[EXCERPT, GODZILLA: WALL OF WATER SLAMS INTO CITY]
[CUT, INTERIOR, RESTAURANT]
JOHNSTON:
How will we ever know when it's over? How will we ever know when the threat is gone? In the mindset we are now in, once we declare it to be over will be exactly the time that we believe that they will strike.
[CUT, BRITISH NEWSSTAND]
NEWS VENDOR:
You know, uh, it's just -- it's the way we live today. We're living on a knife edge.
[CUT, AERIAL VIEW OF LONDON, FOLLOWED BY SCENES OF DISASTERS, ETC]
VOICE OVER:
This story began over 30 years ago as the dream that politics could create a better world began to fall apart. Out of that collapse came two groups: the Islamists and the neoconservatives. Looking back, we can now see that these groups were the last political idealists who, in an age of growing disillusion, tried to reassert the inspirational power of political visions that would give meaning to people's lives.
[CUT, VIEW OF ARABIC CROWD]
[SUBTITLES OVER CROWD SCENES: We will fight for an Islamic state, we will die for it.]
[CUT, PAUL WOLFOWITZ ENTERING PRESS BRIEFING ROOM]
VOICE OVER:
But both have failed in their attempts to transform the world and, instead, together they have created today's strange fantasy of fear which politicians have seized on. Because in an age when all the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all the politicians have left to maintain their power.
[CUT, INTERIOR, HALL, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION]
BUSH:
And we have seen Americans in uniform storming mountain strongholds and charging through sandstorms. We have fought the terrorists across the earth because the lives of our citizens are at stake. And America and the world are safer.
[CUT, INTERIOR, HALL, DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION]
JOHN KERRY, UNITED STATES SENATOR AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:
The stakes are high. We are a nation at war, a global war on terror against unlike we've ever known before….
[CUT, RNC]
BUSH:
Faced with that choice I will defend America every time.
[CUT, ANGLE ON CHEERING CROWDS OF REPUBLICANS]
[CUT, INTERIOR, MEETING ROOM]
DURODIE:
In a society that believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda. Whilst the 20th century was dominated between a conflict between a free-market Right and a socialist Left, even though both of those outlooks had their limitations and their problems, at least they believed in something, whereas what we are seeing now is a society that believes in nothing. And a society that believes in nothing is particularly frightened by people who believe in anything, and, therefore, we label those people as fundamentalists or fanatics, and they have much greater purchase in terms of the fear that they instill in society than they truly deserve. But that's a measure of how much we have become isolated and atomised rather than of their inherent strength.
[CUT, EXTERIOR DOWNING STREET, TONY BLAIR WALKING TOWARD DOOR]
VOICE OVER:
But the fear will not last, and just as the dreams that politicians once promised turned out to be illusions, so, too, will the nightmares, and then our politicians will have to face the fact that they have no visions, either good or bad, to offer us any longer.
[END CREDITS:
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People no longer trust the Republican controlled corporate mainstrean media and are turning to the internet to get their information. That is because corporate media giants fail to cover stories so as not to upset the Bush Administration. For example, ABC News and CBS news have yet to run a single story about the Downing Street Memos, which prove that George W. Bush deliberately and systematically lied about his reasons for invading Iraq.
The more the media covers up the more people distrust them and are turning to alternative media outlets that aren't controlled by money interests. As it turns out readers can get better information from independent sources than the can from the well funded but tightly controlled TV networks.
As many of you know, one of my web sites is flagburning.org. So whenever the Republicans pass their annual constitutional amendment to take away flag burning I get some radio interviews. My good buddy Kevin Miller of WPTF Radio Raleigh NC calls me every time the flag burning issue comes up. I'm the guy the love to hate in the south, but this time there was less resistance to the idea of flag burning than there used to be. I think that the Patriot Act and the Bush administration is making people wake up and think twice about the issues of surrendering their freedoms.
This time I made a recording of my interview so that everyone can listen to the debate. The interview was 2 hours but after editing out the comercials it's only 50 minutes long (8.7mb). Several callers brought up important points that are worth thinking about.
One issue that people don't grasp is that once this passes, how will it be abused? For example, once it becomes a crime to desecrate the flag, then all they have to do is print a flag on anything and that becomes protected. So if they want you to carry a mandated ID card that has a tracking microchip in it, that card will have a flag on it. The microchip will also have a flag on it. So destroying the ID card will be construed as desecrating the flag. It is an anti-sedition law and every time we give up our freedoms we become less free. And if we turn this country into a nation that is no longer free then the flag no longer means anything. That to me is the worse form of desecration imaginable.
Letter to the Editor
Porter Goss, Bush's "Intelligence Czar" says he knows where Osama bin Laden is, but he's not saying right now. I know where he's hiding. Or should I say I know where Porter Goss thinks ne's is hiding. It's hardly a secret when you know how the Bush Cult thinks.
Porter Goss thinks bin Laden is hiding in Iran.
Why? How do I know this?
It's simple. Bush is in the process of putting together an invasion of Iran for the 2006 mid term elections (wag the dog) to distract the people again from the gutting of America by the Corporate/Dominion alliance. So in order to help justify this coming war they will need to put bin Laden in Iran. So that's where he is.
The way the intelligence community works in this administration is that the President tells them what he wants reality to be and then they go out and fabricate the story that supports the president's fiction.
Porter Goss is under orders from Bush to find bin Laden in Iran, so that's where he will be. By the time next summer rolls around, Osama bin Laden will have been discovered to be secretly in control of Iran and in control of their nuclear arsenal. And like Iraq, we will be required to go to war over it. I feel a draft coming.
For Immediate Release: June 19, 2005
For More Info: Bob Fertik http://democrats.com/contact
Web page: http://democrats.com/milbank
Democrats.com Seeks Apology for Washington Post Attack
On June 19, Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank attacked Democrats.com by name for the third time in 10 days.
Bob Fertik, President of Democrats.com, replied in detail to Milbank's attack in his blog:
http://democrats.com/milbank
Fertik also sent a Letter to the Editor of the Post requesting an apology.
To the Editor:
Re: Memos, 'Wing Nuts' and 'Hit Lists' by Ombudsman Michael Getler, June 19
On behalf of more than 300,000 supporters of Democrats.com, I write to express my outrage over Dana Milbank's libelous charge that our "followers have long been harassing this and other reporters and their families with hateful, obscene and sometimes anti-Semitic speech."
Democrats.com strictly prohibits personal attacks and takes immediate action against anyone who violates this rule.
Mr. Milbank never documented any personal attacks from Democrats.com supporters, so I am appalled that you published the allegation as though it were factual, and did not ask me for a response to this despicable charge.
I therefore request an apology from the Washington Post.
Sincerely,
Bob Fertik
President
p.s. I have published this letter, and all background correspondence, on my blog at:
http://democrats.com/milbank
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This reminds me of a battle I had with Salon Magazine where one of their reporters, Jennifer Liberto, decided that I was the publisher of Media Whores Online and Bartcop was the writer. Salon refused to fix the story.
Are we Americans living in a cult? I have been working on my cult pages for my Church of Reality and I came across this really good 100 question cult test. It was written by a guy who was exposing Alcoholics Anonymous as a cult and focuses mostly on religious cults. But religions aren't the only cults. More common are nation cults. So take this test from the perspective of America as the test cult and see if you think we are living in a cult.
From the The Sunday Times - Britain. You don't see this in the American news media. Do you think the press would ignore this if Clinton faked a war?
MINISTERS were warned in July 2002 that Britain was committed to taking part in an American-led invasion of Iraq and they had no choice but to find a way of making it legal.
The warning, in a leaked Cabinet Office briefing paper, said Tony Blair had already agreed to back military action to get rid of Saddam Hussein at a summit at the Texas ranch of President George W Bush three months earlier.
The briefing paper, for participants at a meeting of Blair’s inner circle on July 23, 2002, said that since regime change was illegal it was “necessary to create the conditions” which would make it legal.
This was required because, even if ministers decided Britain should not take part in an invasion, the American military would be using British bases. This would automatically make Britain complicit in any illegal US action.
“US plans assume, as a minimum, the use of British bases in Cyprus and Diego Garcia,” the briefing paper warned. This meant that issues of legality “would arise virtually whatever option ministers choose with regard to UK participation”.
The paper was circulated to those present at the meeting, among whom were Blair, Geoff Hoon, then defence secretary, Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, and Sir Richard Dearlove, then chief of MI6. The full minutes of the meeting were published last month in The Sunday Times.
The document said the only way the allies could justify military action was to place Saddam Hussein in a position where he ignored or rejected a United Nations ultimatum ordering him to co-operate with the weapons inspectors. But it warned this would be difficult.
“It is just possible that an ultimatum could be cast in terms which Saddam would reject,” the document says. But if he accepted it and did not attack the allies, they would be “most unlikely” to obtain the legal justification they needed.
The suggestions that the allies use the UN to justify war contradicts claims by Blair and Bush, repeated during their Washington summit last week, that they turned to the UN in order to avoid having to go to war. The attack on Iraq finally began in March 2003.
The briefing paper is certain to add to the pressure, particularly on the American president, because of the damaging revelation that Bush and Blair agreed on regime change in April 2002 and then looked for a way to justify it.
There has been a growing storm of protest in America, created by last month’s publication of the minutes in The Sunday Times. A host of citizens, including many internet bloggers, have demanded to know why the Downing Street memo (often shortened to “the DSM” on websites) has been largely ignored by the US mainstream media.
The White House has declined to respond to a letter from 89 Democratic congressmen asking if it was true — as Dearlove told the July meeting — that “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy” in Washington.
The Downing Street memo burst into the mainstream American media only last week after it was raised at a joint Bush-Blair press conference, forcing the prime minister to insist that “the facts were not fixed in any shape or form at all”.
John Conyers, the Democratic congressman who drafted the letter to Bush, has now written to Dearlove asking him to say whether or not it was accurate that he believed the intelligence was being “fixed” around the policy. He also asked the former MI6 chief precisely when Bush and Blair had agreed to invade Iraq and whether it is true they agreed to “manufacture” the UN ultimatum in order to justify the war.
He and other Democratic congressmen plan to hold their own inquiry this Thursday with witnesses including Joe Wilson, the American former ambassador who went to Niger to investigate claims that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium ore for its nuclear weapons programme.
Letter to the Editor
The Bush Administration is blaming the news media for violence by Muslims who are upset with news reports about the brutal torture of prisoners at American prison camps. They say these news reports are getting people killed. But it's not the news reports that are getting people killed, it's the news. The torture at Abu Ghraib really did happen. The Gonzales memo approving the torture really did happen. And the abuse at Gitmo as reported by Amnesty International really did happen. It's not the job of the news media to cover up for the presidents war crimes. If the Bush administration wants to stop the news reports I suggest that he stop doing the things that the news media is reporting on.
I really don't think so in spite of all the self criticism and the rest of the corporate media chiming in to denounce the "mistake" that the military is flushing the qaran down the toilet. I believe the store is true because it is consitent with the storied that prisioners are telling and the Anu Ghraib torture scandal.
The scary part is how the corporate media jumps through hoops for Bush as the Whitehouse controls them like puppets. I'm still waiting for them to apologize to Clinton for all the false reports they manufactured on him.
Does anyone really believe that this sort of think didn't happen? I don't think so. At Abu Ghraib this was cmmon. Part of the torture was religious humiliation. They just were too stupid to understand the consequences of it.
The other bizzare aspect of this is that these muslims go nuts over the treatment of a book and not over the the treatment of people. That's why the religiously insane scare me.
I get at least some consolation in that those who voted for Bush have to pay $2.50 a gallon too and they too have to pay higher taxes for less services and generally suffer like the rest of real America.
But - will they get it when they are paying $5.00 a gallon? I doubt it.
No wonder Bush is taking care of Bolton. Original Story
"I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."
Those were the words John Bolton yelled as he burst into a Tallahassee library on Saturday, Dec. 9, 2000, where local election workers were recounting ballots cast in Florida's disputed presidential race between George W. Bush and Al Gore.
Bolton was one of the pack of lawyers for the Republican presidential ticket who repeatedly sought to shut down recounts of the ballots from Florida counties before those counts revealed that Gore had actually won the state's electoral votes and the presidency.
The Dec. 9 intervention was Bolton's last and most significant blow against the democratic process.
The Florida Supreme Court had ordered a broad recount of ballots in order to finally resolve the question of who won the state. But Bolton and the Bush-Cheney team got their Republican allies on the U.S. Supreme Court to block the review. Fearing that each minute of additional counting would reveal the reality of voter sentiments in Florida, Bolton personally rushed into the library to stop the count.
Bolton was in South Korea when it became clear that the Nov. 7, 2000, election would be decided in Florida. At the behest of former Secretary of State James Baker, who fronted the Bush-Cheney team during the Florida fight, Bolton winged his way to Palm Beach, where he took the lead in challenging ballots during that county's recount. Then, when the ballots from around the state were transported to Tallahassee for the recount ordered by the state Supreme Court, Bolton followed them.
It was there that he personally shut down the review of ballots from Miami-Dade County, a populous and particularly contested county where independent reviews would later reveal that hundreds of ballots that could reasonably have been counted for Gore were instead discarded.
Miami-Dade County Elections Supervisor David Leahy argued at the time that 2,257 voters had apparently attempted to mark ballot cards for Gore or Bush but had not had them recorded because they had been improperly inserted into the voting machines. A hand count of those ballots revealed that 302 more of them would have gone for Gore than Bush. That shift in the numbers from just one of Florida's 67 counties would have erased more than half of Bush's 537-vote lead in the state.
But attempts to conduct a hand count were repeatedly blocked by the Bush-Cheney team, culminating with Bolton's Dec. 9 announcement, "I'm here to stop the count." A few days later, the U.S. Supreme Court would stop the count permanently, with a pro-Bush ruling in which five Republican-appointed justices, in the words of noted attorney Vincent Bugliosi, "committed the unpardonable sin of being a knowing surrogate for the Republican Party instead of being an impartial arbiter of the law."
Bolton was a key player in the fight to delay the Florida count long enough to allow for the Supreme Court's intervention, and he got his reward quickly. Despite his record of making controversial and sometimes bizarre statements regarding international affairs, he was selected by the Bush administration in 2001 to serve as undersecretary of state for arms control. And he is now in line to become the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.
Before he is given that position, and charged with the job of promoting the spread of democracy around the world, however, senators would do well to consider the disregard John Bolton showed for democracy in Florida.
Judge Charles Burton, chairman of the Palm Beach County canvassing board, holds up the last ballot the board was able to consider in the manual recount of ballots as Democratic lawyer Mark White, left, and Republican lawyer John Bolton watch at the Palm Beach County Emergency Operations Center Sunday, Nov. 26, 2000, in West Palm Beach, Fla. On Election Day 2004 partisan lawyers are planning to be at polling places they consider important or prone to trouble as the best remembered controversies in the 2000 Florida election grew from technical voting problems, many of which still exist; an estimated 32 million voters in 19 states will use punch cards. -AP File Photo
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Diplomat says he received no assurance of a reward
Bolton, the U.S. diplomat now responsible for arms control issues, said no payoff was promised for his decision to join the post-election fray. He had worked for the first Bush administration and, finding himself in South Korea on election night, contacted former Secretary of State James Baker in Texas to see how he might lend a hand. The reply: Go to Florida.
''I think, frankly, most of the people who did it just went down there by instinct,'' Bolton said. He said he received no legal fees, although the campaign paid his hotel bills and other expenses.
Bolton was part of the legal team and a ballot observer in Palm Beach County. Then he rushed to Tallahassee as the recount battle reached higher courts.
It was his role, on Saturday, Dec. 9, 2000, to burst into a library where workers were recounting Miami-Dade ballots and relay news of the U.S. Supreme Court's stay in the on-again, off-again presidential recount.
''I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count,'' he was quoted as saying in news reports at the time.
The Florida fraternity included major figures in the Bush administration, notably Theodore Olson, the current solicitor general, who worked on the case in both Tallahassee and Miami, then argued candidate Bush's case before the U.S. Supreme Court, and Robert Zoellick, now the U.S. trade representative, who served as a virtual chief of staff to Baker, Bush's main Florida strategist…
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So - this is about payback for helping Bush steal the 2000 election. Interesting that the corporate media isn't mentioning this. Especially since this is an Associated Press story.
He's Back! Jeff Gannon / James Guckert is back at the National Press Club.
Yes, the same day that the prestigious Washington, D.C., journalism organization plans to present a lunch talk by former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee, it will also allow the former White House reporter/escort to be on a panel discussing bloggers and online journalism.
Jesus - this guy is talking about real journalists like me? First he's a fake national corrispondent. Now he's a fake blogger and online journalist. No - this guy is a republican paid fraud.
Gannon, whose real name is James Guckert, resigned his job with the conservative Talon News last month after it was revealed he had used a pseudonym, had little journalism background, and had ties to male escort Web sites.
It wasn't ties to male escort sites. He owned gay male porn sites and advertized himself as a gay male whore.
Still, Press Club leaders will include Gannon on the panel April 8 that includes Wonkette.com editor Ana Marie Cox, National Journal's John Stanton, and others. Gannon has been asked on numerous occasions about charges that he worked as a prostitute, and has refused to deny them.
Gannon told E&P today that he always considered himself a legitimate journalist, and "perhaps their invitation is recognition of that."
It is in recognition that the rest of the journalists there are whores too. They are merely Republican surrogates that report the news the Neocons write for them.
Press Club President Rick Dunham, who also covers the White House for BusinessWeek, called Gannon "a figure in the news" who is involved in an important journalistic issue.
And they say bloggers have no journalistic standards!
"The panel came together because we wanted to discuss some issues that came about from the Gannon case," said Mike Madden, a Gannett News Service reporter and a member of the Press Club's Professional Affairs committee, which is organizing the free event. "So we thought, why not try to get him?"
The issues they should be discussing is why they are covering up for him and trying to legitimize this fraud. The real story is why there is no story.
Gannon's ability to gain access to regular daily White House briefings, despite not being able to obtain a permanent "hard pass" or a congressional press pass, sparked new discussions among reporters and White House staff about who should be granted regular access.
There is a simple system when it comes to White House access. You have to sell your soul to the Devil.
"The idea was talking about these issues and who should be allowed to set up shop [as a legitimate journalist]," Madden told E&P. "It is not intended to be a forum for [Gannon] to present his side unchallenged. It is going to be moderated and there will be others on the panel."
As if these guys are going to tell us who is a legitimate journalist.
When asked if giving Gannon a spot on the panel wrongly legitimizes him as a journalist, Madden disagreed. "It depends on how you look at it," he said. "He is there because the panel is presumably going to talk mostly about his case. He was, in large part, the central figure in the case that got us interested in the topic."
Maybe they sould invite O. J. Sompson to a women's conference to speak on domestic violence?
Dunham said "journalists should be given a chance to question him." Reminded that many reporters had interviewed Gannon in the past month, Dunham still believed his presence would be good for the event. "I want us to be on the news," he said. "I think it is better to have people ask any question they can ask."
The Press Club's Web site, however, does not tout the event as focusing on Gannon but rather as a discussion about the differences between "bloggers" and "journalists." In other words, it is a journalism panel, not a press conference featuring, say, a politician or author in the news.
There is not different between bloggers and journalists. The issue is the difference between the Washing Press Corpse and journalists.
John Aravosis at Americablog, which highlighted the Press Club event on Monday, wrote: "What is GannonGuckert doing there at all? Like he's an expert on the difference between blogging and journalism? How so? He thinks journalism means parroting press releases and transcripts. As for blogging, again, he started a so-called blog 3 weeks ago and now he's representative of all bloggers?"
John Aravosis at Americablog should be there instead of Guckert! John is the blogger that EXPOSED Guckert as a fraud. So instead of inviting the journalist to speak - they invite the fraud!
Gannon told E&P he "thinks it is a good opportunity for me to speak to issues related to bloggers." He also added that he was, "trying to stay out there where people can see me."
The above picture will help people see you. You're no more a blogger that you are a White House corrispondent.
Dunham hopes to have the panel covered by C-SPAN, but said no final decision by the cable channel had been made.
"There has been a passing thunderstorm of interest in this," said Julie Schoo, who handles logistics for the press club, but she did not have details of how many people have signed up to attend.
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So - what makes someone a real journalist? Is the guy in this picture a real journalist? He sure is. He's part of the washington press corps and he's president Bush's favorite guy to call on for the "really tough" questions.
You see - blogglers are not only journalists - but they are the only journalists. We still have our freedom as opposed to the networks who are just whitehouse puppets.
For example - today Dan Rather leaves CBS after getting fired by the Bush administration. Presidents get to fire reporters these days. Back in the 1970s Dan Rather was one of the key reporters that led to President Nixon getting fired. Back when the press was free they asserted the freedom of the people to bring down the corrupt government. Now the corrupt government brings dow the media.
To me a real journalist is someone who brings you the real news. When the so called real journalists are really Republican gay male hookers who are hired to parrot the whitehouse line - that's not real journalism. And all the other real journalists know about this and knew about it for the last two years and continue to cover it up.
I find it ammusing that after the CNN report they had a segment reporting on what the bloggers are saying. While the report appears to be about bloggers - it's clear that the mainstream press is now looking at bloggers as a source of news.
At least someone is finally speaking out. Here's part of an article from the Seattle Post Intelligencer
COUNTING THE VOTES: Heinz Kerry is openly skeptical about results from November's election, particularly in sections of the country where optical scanners were used to record votes.
"Two brothers own 80 percent of the machines used in the United States," Heinz Kerry said. She identified both as "hard-right" Republicans. She argued that it is "very easy to hack into the mother machines."
"We in the United States are not a banana republic," added Heinz Kerry. She argued that Democrats should insist on "accountability and transparency" in how votes are tabulated.
"I fear for '06," she said. "I don't trust it the way it is right now."
If Clinton were stealing elections - do you think the news media would cover it?
In December 2004, computer programmer Clint Curtis swore in an affidavit that he was asked in 2000 by (now) US Congressman Tom Feeney (R-FL) to design a software prototype that could "flip" the vote in South Florida voting machines.
That affidavit was first published by blogger Brad Friedman of BradBlog.com. Shortly thereafter, Curtis, in sworn public testimony, shared the details of this story with Democratic members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee who were investigating election fraud charges in Ohio. [video]
In 2000, Curtis was working for a Florida software company called Yang Enterprises Inc. (YEI). Feeney, who was then the incoming Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, was, at the same time, general counsel for YEI and its registered lobbyist. He had previously been Jeb Bush's 1994 running mate for Florida Governor and continues to be a close ally of the Bush family.
Feeney has refused public comment on the matter, while YEI and their attorney (Feeney's former law partner) have denied such an event took place. But the alibis of both Feeney and YEI have been repeatedly discredited and debunked by the reporting of Brad Friedman since December.
Clint Curtis, on the other hand, has a solid record as a whistleblower. He told Florida officials that another YEI employee, an illegal Chinese alien named Hai Lin "Henry" Nee, was engaged in high-tech espionage for China. Nee was subsequently indicted by the feds on related charged and pled guilty last year. YEI's CEO, Mrs. Li-Woan Yang, still denies that Nee worked for them, despite federal reports and weekly time records published on The BRAD BLOG which prove otherwise.
The Florida Inspector General who originally investigated Curtis' claims was found dead in a Georgia motel room two weeks after he told Curtis that "this goes all the way to the top." Police called it a "suicide," but Friedman has discovered a number of troubling new facts and inconsistencies about the police "investigation" (which was re-opened after Friedman's reporting emerged on the Internet) including photographs of the crime scene which the police had previously said in their report did not exist.
Clint Curtis' story has quietly rocked top Republicans from Tallahassee to Capitol Hill. Newspaper accounts of Curtis' affidavit and testimony have been published in various local papers (Feeney's hometown letter received a legal threat from both Feeney and YEI when they ran their story), yet the national media has largely been silent on this story despite the reams of public records, court documents and other hard evidence which confirm Curtis' story while continually debunking both Feeney's and YEI's explanations.
So - under the Bush stock market plan - you invest you money in the market and when you retire you get to live on the profits - right? Wrong!
They aren't telling you that Bush plans to tax 70% of your earnings against your Social Security income. That means for ever dollar you make on your Social Security investment - you get a 70 cent cut in the amount of money the government gives you. And if you lose money --- you're just plain fucked.
But - you won't hear this story from the Republican owned media puppets to want to eliminate social security. To find that out you have to go to the town hall metting with Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi and find out what is really on the table.
Only on the web can you find the real news that is unfiltered by the Washington press.
It's called "privatizing Social Security" - but that's not what it really is. A side effect of Bush's plan is the government takeover of the stock market.
Think about it. With two trillion dollars of buying and selling power the federal government - or the private parties who are doing the government's investing - become, by a factor of 100, the biggest single investor in the world. And I doubt that anyone will ever make a stock decision without wondering what move the government is going to make.
Besides - who is going to enforce laws and ethical standards against the government? The government? The possibilities for insider trading are endless. And how do you feel about the idea that the single biggest owner of "free enterprise" is the government? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Because the market goes up over time doesn't mean all investors make money. There are winners and there are losers. There is nothing out there that will ensure that the government doesn't lose it all. The market is a gamble and if you don't understand that - you don't understand the market.
Bush proposes that we are going to borrow two trillion dollars to gamble in a market that will be completely changed by this new super investor. And we are going to borrow that money from Muslin Saudi oil barons - some of whom are members of the family of Osama bin Laden - and the rest is going to be borrowed from the Communist Chinese.
This merger through the market of the government and private industry is like an elephant merging with a fly. The government is going to own or at least control the purchasing of huge amounts of private sector stock and become significant owners of many large free enterprise organization. Will the government end up picking members of the board of directors - or influence who is picked, perhaps even innocently? After all - companies are going to want to attract Uncle Sam as an investor and structure their organization in a way that the government likes. It make me wonder how these corporations will change once Uncle Sam becomes the company's biggest share holder.
And the insider trading ... what will that be like. If the FDA decides not to approve a new drug - will the FDA tip off the Social Security Fund? Or - will they keep the secret and let the government lose billions of dollars of our retirement money?
The stock market creates competition, and some people win and some people lose. In this case it pits the government against all other private investors and someone is going to win and someone is going to lose, and guess who has the advantage?
And let's suppose the government does well in the market and makes a big profit on our social security money. Wouldn't that be wonderful? Not necessarily. It might mean that investor lost a lot of money and the same old people who benefit from social security would lose their private investment to make up for it. Government wins - private industry loses - hardly sound like free enterprise to me.
But what if the Government loses? Then you have private investors getting rich at the expense of the taxpayers. If the government blows it's wad on the market - the still have to pay back the Muslim terrorists and the Communists who loaned them the money in the first place. They will probably have to borrow the money from the investors who screwed them out of it.
To me the very definition of "free enterprise" means free from the government. After all - what else does the word "free" mean? If the government is your owner you are not free. You are in fact a slave. And the government server as owner, employer, and pickpocket all at once. They have your credit card and are running up the bill. We now have a $36,000 birth tax in this country. That's your share of the debt from the moment you are born. Thanks Bush!
What I can't understand is - where the hell are the conservatives? Doesn't this debt make your skin crawl? The government is everywhere and they are expanding and taking over. They are already in your churches and now they want to own the company where you work? Why the hell aren't you freaking out?
It's a never ending cycle and it reminds me of the song "Sixteen Tons" by Frankie Lane that ends in, " St Peter don't you call me I cause can't go: I owe my soul to the company store."
As you know the mid term elections are just two years away and by then people are going to be tired of Iraq. Republicans need a fresh new war to keep up the momentum - and that fresh new war will be Iran.
Of course by then the number of idiots who volunteer will have dropped off so the draft is coming back. Bush will need to harvest your children as props in his illusion of "America - a nation at War" theme.
The sad part is that American are stupid enough that it's going to work. But - when they start saying "who would have known?" - I did - and a lot of others see this coming. It's just too bad that the only opposition to this would be the Democrats who are generally spineless. There's no voice for reality in the government these days.
Below is an article about an interview I did for The Independent as I was distributing Fahrenheit 9/11 before the election. People were wondering about copyrights and if I was going to get sued. But like I said - it would never happen - and it didn't.
As it turn out it was like I said. Michael Moore said I could distribute it for free on the Internet and he meant it. At no time have I been contacted in any way about my distribution. Not even a polite request to take it down.
It just goes to show you the Michael Moore is a man of his word and he was being generous and I thank him for his generocity.
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Marc Perkel is spending US$2000 in the hope of ensuring the result of next week’s presidential election.
Not by buying expensive TV adverts (something that would cost much more than US$2000) but by offering Michael Moore’s film Fahrenheit 9/11 for free download from his site, in the hope that watching it will encourage people to vote against George W. Bush.
And at least half of his hope has been fulfilled: thousands of people have downloaded the film from his site, in a format that can be watched on a computer.
Yet despite offering a box-office hit backed by heavyweight producers such as Harvey Weinstein, available for free over the Net, Mr Perkel, of San Bruno in California, does not fear being sued, as one would normally expect.
Instead, he insists that “Michael Moore wants me to distribute this” - although he also admits Mr Moore has not spoken to him specifically.
The US$2000 is the cost of one month’s high-speed internet access to his web site where the digital versions of the film are stored - and if download numbers are any guide, he has found a receptive audience.
Since he put the films online, more than 300,000 people have downloaded them, in full or in part.
The film has become famous for its criticism of President Bush’s handling of the threat from terrorists before September 2001, and for his policies afterwards.
That inspired Mr Perkel to make a digital copy of the film, and offer it for free so others would see it: “This election is extremely important to the future of the planet,” he told The Independent.
“If I can make a difference, it’s worth US$2000 to make that happen.
According to my [site] logs - which I don’t trust because I don’t think it can distinguish failed attempts - it has been downloaded 337,756 times.
But I don’t count downloads - I count votes.
How many voters are converted [by seeing the film] or how many people are motivated to actually vote? That’s the score that counts to me.
I am trying to prevent World War 3 and possibly the fall of civilisation."What’s more, Mr Perkel says he has the tacit backing of Mr Moore for his venture.
“Michael Moore has made public statements encouraging people to download it and to distribute it over the internet for free.
At no time have I seen any public statements from a copyright holder to the contrary,” Mr Perkel told the Independent.
Indeed, Mr Moore said in July: “I don’t agree with the copyright laws and I don’t have a problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as they’re not trying to make a profit off my labour.
I would oppose that."The distributors of the film in the US, Lion’s Gate, had no comment yesterday on Mr Perkel’s actions.
Mr Perkel commented: “Even if I were sued, which I really don’t think will happen, I am extremely legal savvy and I am not [rich].
And I would [demand the appearance of] Michael Moore as a defendant for misleading me into believing I had permission to distribute it.
So - under these conditions - a copyright suit won’t happen."
I'm tired of people talking about red states and blue states as if everyone in red states voted for Bush and everyone in Blue states voted for Kerry. States didn't vote - people do. So those who feel like boycotting red states are a silly as those who like all black people are all alike. It's almost racist. A Kerry voter in Georga is no different that a Kerry voter in California. It's individuals - not states - who made the choice.
The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration.
The re-election of President Bush is prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray and agree with Bill O'Reilly.
Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.
"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota.
The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry.
"He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?"
In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields.
"Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk."
Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.
"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though."
When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR.
In the days since the election, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border.
Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers.
"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said.
Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?"
In an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said.
"We're going to have some Peter, Paul &Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The president is determined to reach out."
When the results of an election depends on which party is counting the ballots and widespread fraud is acceptable and the law is "whatever you can get away with" and the government controls redistricting in ways that allows them to control the results of and election - that's not democracy. It's just a simulationm. It's a fraud. It's a lie. America has a fake democracy.
I find it amuzing the the main stream media thinks they can immitate the credibility of bloggers just by buying some blog software and publishing their news in blog format. There's a big difference between real bloggers and our media immitators. Real bloggers are writing about their own opinion. Its an act of total free speech.
On the other hand the corporate bloggers are what they are - corporate bloggers. They are hired to write what the corporation wants to say and what the corporation wants to say is the script that is sent to them from Karl Rove in the Whitehouse. That's why you won't find them calling Bush a war criminal or reporting that Al Gore really did win the 2000 election and that America is merely a simulated democracy.
The corporate bloggers might have more resources to find news that us real bloggers but the news they find and what they report are two different things. These fake bloggers are on a short leash and although they technically have the freedom to write anything they want - they can only do it once and they are out the door.
So - if you want the real news - go to the sites where the grammar and spelling are poor and the message is both true and interesting. I suppose it is a form of flattery that corporate media has addopted the blog format because it is more trusted than the mainstream news. But what they don't get is the difference between form an substance. You don't achieve sincerity by learning better ways to fake it.
Here's an article by Greg Palast published in tompaine.com.
Bush won Ohio by 136,483 votes. In the United States, about 3 percent of votes cast are voided—known as “spoilage” in election jargon—because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Drawing on what happened in Florida and studies of elections past, Palast argues that if Ohio’s discarded ballots were counted, Kerry would have won the state. Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots. So far there's no indication that Palast's hypothesis will be tested because only the provisional ballots are being counted.
Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight. The documentary, "Bush Family Fortunes," based on his New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, has been released this month on DVD .
Kerry won. Here are the facts.
I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad. But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.
Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with—and therefore contaminated by—the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. [To read about the skewing of exit polls to conform to official results, click here .] Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.
So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.
Here's why. Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. [See TomPaine.com, "An Election Spoiled Rotten," November 1.]
Once again, at the heart of the Ohio uncounted vote game are, I'm sorry to report, hanging chads and pregnant chads, plus some other ballot tricks old and new.
The election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called "spoilage." Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of the vote is voided, just thrown away, not recorded. When the bobble-head boobs on the tube tell you Ohio or any state was won by 51 percent to 49 percent, don't you believe it ... it has never happened in the United States, because the total never reaches a neat 100 percent. The television totals simply subtract out the spoiled vote.
Whose Votes Are Discarded?
And not all votes spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African-American and minority precincts. (To learn more, click here.)
We saw this in Florida in 2000. Exit polls showed Gore with a plurality of at least 50,000, but it didn't match the official count. That's because the official, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, excluded 179,855 spoiled votes. In Florida, as in Ohio, most of these votes lost were cast on punch cards where the hole wasn't punched through completely—leaving a 'hanging chad,'—or was punched extra times. Whose cards were discarded? Expert statisticians investigating spoilage for the government calculated that 54 percent of the ballots thrown in the dumpster were cast by black folks. (To read the report from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, click here .)
And here's the key: Florida is terribly typical. The majority of ballots thrown out (there will be nearly 2 million tossed out from Tuesday's election) will have been cast by African American and other minority citizens.
So here we go again. Or, here we don't go again. Because unlike last time, Democrats aren't even asking Ohio to count these cards with the not-quite-punched holes (called "undervotes" in the voting biz). Nor are they demanding we look at the "overvotes" where voter intent may be discerned.
Ohio is one of the last states in America to still use the vote-spoiling punch-card machines. And the Secretary of State of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, wrote before the election, “the possibility of a close election with punch cards as the state’s primary voting device invites a Florida-like calamity.”
But this week, Blackwell, a rabidly partisan Republican, has warmed up to the result of sticking with machines that have a habit of eating Democratic votes. When asked if he feared being this year's Katherine Harris, Blackwell noted that Ms. Fix-it's efforts landed her a seat in Congress.
Exactly how many votes were lost to spoilage this time? Blackwell's office, notably, won't say, though the law requires it be reported. Hmm. But we know that last time, the total of Ohio votes discarded reached a democracy-damaging 1.96 percent. The machines produced their typical loss—that's 110,000 votes—overwhelmingly Democratic.
The Impact Of Challenges
First and foremost, Kerry was had by chads. But the Democrat wasn't punched out by punch cards alone. There were also the 'challenges.' That's a polite word for the Republican Party of Ohio's use of an old Ku Klux Klan technique: the attempt to block thousands of voters of color at the polls. In Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida, the GOP laid plans for poll workers to ambush citizens under arcane laws—almost never used—allowing party-designated poll watchers to finger individual voters and demand they be denied a ballot. The Ohio courts were horrified and federal law prohibits targeting of voters where race is a factor in the challenge. But our Supreme Court was prepared to let Republicans stand in the voting booth door.
In the end, the challenges were not overwhelming, but they were there. Many apparently resulted in voters getting these funky "provisional" ballots—a kind of voting placebo—which may or may not be counted. Blackwell estimates there were 175,000; Democrats say 250,000. Pick your number. But as challenges were aimed at minorities, no one doubts these are, again, overwhelmingly Democratic. Count them up, add in the spoiled punch cards (easy to tally with the human eye in a recount), and the totals begin to match the exit polls; and, golly, you've got yourself a new president. Remember, Bush won by 136,483 votes in Ohio.
Enchanted State's Enchanted Vote
Now, on to New Mexico, where a Kerry plurality—if all votes are counted—is more obvious still. Before the election, in TomPaine.com, I wrote, "John Kerry is down by several thousand votes in New Mexico, though not one ballot has yet been counted."
How did that happen? It's the spoilage, stupid; and the provisional ballots.
CNN said George Bush took New Mexico by 11,620 votes. Again, the network total added up to that miraculous, and non-existent, '100 percent' of ballots cast.
New Mexico reported in the last race a spoilage rate of 2.68 percent, votes lost almost entirely in Hispanic, Native American and poor precincts—Democratic turf. From Tuesday's vote, assuming the same ballot-loss rate, we can expect to see 18,000 ballots in the spoilage bin.
Spoilage has a very Democratic look in New Mexico. Hispanic voters in the Enchanted State, who voted more than two to one for Kerry, are five times as likely to have their vote spoil as a white voter. Counting these uncounted votes would easily overtake the Bush 'plurality.'
Already, the election-bending effects of spoilage are popping up in the election stats, exactly where we'd expect them: in heavily Hispanic areas controlled by Republican elections officials. Chaves County, in the "Little Texas" area of New Mexico, has a 44 percent Hispanic population, plus African Americans and Native Americans, yet George Bush "won" there 68 percent to 31 percent.
I spoke with Chaves' Republican county clerk before the election, and he told me that this huge spoilage rate among Hispanics simply indicated that such people simply can't make up their minds on the choice of candidate for president. Oddly, these brown people drive across the desert to register their indecision in a voting booth.
Now, let's add in the effect on the New Mexico tally of provisional ballots.
"They were handing them out like candy," Albuquerque journalist Renee Blake reported of provisional ballots. About 20,000 were given out. Who got them?
Santiago Juarez who ran the "Faithful Citizenship" program for the Catholic Archdiocese in New Mexico, told me that "his" voters, poor Hispanics, whom he identified as solid Kerry supporters, were handed the iffy provisional ballots. Hispanics were given provisional ballots, rather than the countable kind "almost religiously," he said, at polling stations when there was the least question about a voter's identification. Some voters, Santiago said, were simply turned away.
Your Kerry Victory Party
So we can call Ohio and New Mexico for John Kerry—if we count all the votes.
But that won't happen. Despite the Democratic Party's pledge, the leadership this time gave in to racial disenfranchisement once again. Why? No doubt, the Democrats know darn well that counting all the spoiled and provisional ballots will require the cooperation of Ohio's Secretary of State, Blackwell. He will ultimately decide which spoiled and provisional ballots get tallied. Blackwell, hankering to step into Kate Harris' political pumps, is unlikely to permit anything close to a full count. Also, Democratic leadership knows darn well the media would punish the party for demanding a full count.
What now? Kerry won, so hold your victory party. But make sure the shades are down: it may be become illegal to demand a full vote count under PATRIOT Act III.
I used to write a column for the Guardian papers in London. Several friends have asked me if I will again leave the country. In light of the failure—a second time—to count all the votes, that won't be necessary. My country has left me.
I found This Article on the John Zogby Site.
I Smell a Rat
I smell a rat. It has that distinctive and all-too-familiar odor of the species Republicanus floridius. We got a nasty bite from this pest four years ago and never quite recovered. Symptoms of a long-term infection are becoming distressingly apparent.
The first sign of the rat was on election night. The jubilation of early exit polling had given way to rising anxiety as states fell one by one to the Red Tide. It was getting late in the smoky cellar of a Prague sports bar where a crowd of expats had gathered. We had been hoping to go home to bed early, confident of victory. Those hopes had evaporated in a flurry of early precinct reports from Florida and Ohio.
By 3 AM, conversation had died and we were grimly sipping beers and watching as those two key states seemed to be slipping further and further to crimson. Suddenly, a friend who had left two hours earlier rushed in and handed us a printout.
"Zogby's calling it for Kerry." He smacked the sheet decisively. "Definitely. He's got both Florida and Ohio in the Kerry column. Kerry only needs one." Satisfied, we went to bed, confident we would wake with the world a better place. Victory was at hand.
The morning told a different story, of course. No Florida victory for Kerry--Bush had a decisive margin of nearly 400,000 votes. Ohio was not even close enough for Kerry to demand that all the votes be counted. The pollsters had been dead wrong, Bush had four more years and a powerful mandate. Onward Christian soldiers--next stop, Tehran.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics
I work with statistics and polling data every day. Something rubbed me the wrong way. I checked the exit polls for Florida--all wrong. CNN's results indicated a Kerry win: turnout matched voter registration, and independents had broken 59% to 41% for Kerry.
Polling is an imprecise science. Yet its very imprecision is itself quantifiable and follows regular patterns. Differences between actual results and those expected from polling data must be explainable by identifiable factors if the polling sample is robust enough. With almost 3.000 respondents in Florida alone, the CNN poll sample was pretty robust.
The first signs of the rat were identified by Kathy Dopp, who conducted a simple analysis of voter registrations by party in Florida and compared them to presidential vote results. Basically she multiplied the total votes cast in a county by the percentage of voters registered Republican: this gave an expected Republican vote. She then compared this to the actual result.
Her analysis is startling. Certain counties voted for Bush far in excess of what one would expect based on the share of Republican registrations in that county. They key phrase is "certain counties"--there is extraordinary variance between individual counties. Most counties fall more or less in line with what one would expect based on the share of Republican registrations, but some differ wildly.
How to explain this incredible variance? Dopp found one over-riding factor: whether the county used electronic touch-screen voting, or paper ballots which were optically scanned into a computer. All of those with touch-screen voting had results relatively in line with her expected results, while all of those with extreme variance were in counties with optical scanning.
The intimation, clearly, is fraud. Ballots are scanned; results are fed into precinct computers; these are sent to a county-wide database, whose results are fed into the statewide electoral totals. At any point after physical ballots become databases, the system is vulnerable to external hackers.
It seemed too easy, and Dopp's method seemed simplistic. I re-ran the results using CNN's exit polling data. In each county, I took the number of registrations and assigned correctional factors based on the CNN poll to predict turnout among Republicans, Democrats, and independents. I then used the vote shares from the polls to predict a likely number of Republican votes per county. I compared this ‘expected' Republican vote to the actual Republican vote.
The results are shocking. Overall, Bush received 2% fewer votes in counties with electronic touch-screen voting than expected. In counties with optical scanning, he received 16% more. This 16% would not be strange if it were spread across counties more or less evenly. It is not. In 11 different counties, the ‘actual' Bush vote was at least twice higher than the expected vote. 13 counties had Bush vote tallies 50--100% higher than expected. In one county where 88% of voters are registered Democrats, Bush got nearly two thirds of the vote--three times more than predicted by my model.
Again, polling can be wrong. It is difficult to believe it can be that wrong. Fortunately, however, we can test how wrong it would have to be to give the ‘actual' result.
I tested two alternative scenarios to see how wrong CNN would have to have been to explain the election result. In the first, I assumed they had been wildly off the mark in the turnout figures--i.e. far more Republicans and independents had come out than Democrats. In the second I assumed the voting shares were completely wrong, and that the Republicans had been able to massively poach voters from the Democrat base.
In the first scenario, I assumed 90% of Republicans and independents voted, and the remaining ballots were cast by Democrats. This explains the result in counties with optical scanning to within 5%. However, in this scenario Democratic turnout would have been only 51% in the optical scanning counties--barely exceeding half of Republican turnout. It also does not solve the enormous problems in individual counties. 7 counties in this scenario still have actual vote tallies for Bush that are at least 100% higher than predicted by the model--an extremely unlikely result.
In the second scenario I assumed that Bush had actually got 100% of the vote from Republicans and 50% from independents (versus CNN polling results which were 93% and 41% respectively). If this gave enough votes for Bush to explain the county's results, I left the amount of Democratic registered voters ballots cast for Bush as they were predicted by CNN (14% voted for Bush). If this did not explain the result, I calculated how many Democrats would have to vote for Bush.
In 41 of 52 counties, this did not explain the result and Bush must have gotten more than CNN's predicted 14% of Democratic ballots--not an unreasonable assumption by itself. However, in 21 counties more than 50% of Democratic votes would have to have defected to Bush to account for the county result--in four counties, at least 70% would have been required. These results are absurdly unlikely.
The second rat
A previously undiscovered species of rat, Republicanus cuyahogus, has been found in Ohio. Before the election, I wrote snide letters to a state legislator for Cuyahoga county who, according to media reports, was preparing an army of enforcers to keep ‘suspect' (read: minority) voters away from the polls. One of his assistants wrote me back very pleasant mails to the effect that they had no intention of trying to suppress voter turnout, and in fact only wanted to encourage people to vote.
They did their job too well. According to the official statistics for Cuyahoga county, a number of precincts had voter turnout well above the national average: in fact, turnout was well over 100% of registered voters, and in several cases well above the total number of people who have lived in the precinct in the last century or so.
In 30 precincts, more ballots were cast than voters were registered in the county. According to county regulations, voters must cast their ballot in the precinct in which they are registered. Yet in these thirty precincts, nearly 100.000 more people voted than are registered to vote -- this out of a total of 251.946 registrations. These are not marginal differences--this is a 39% over-vote. In some precincts the over-vote was well over 100%. One precinct with 558 registered voters cast nearly 9,000 ballots. As one astute observer noted, it's the ballot-box equivalent of Jesus' miracle of the fishes. Bush being such a man of God, perhaps we should not be surprised.
What to do?
This is not an idle statistical exercise. Either the raw data from two critical battleground states is completely erroneous, or something has gone horribly awry in our electoral system--again. Like many Americans, I was dissatisfied with and suspicious of the way the Florida recount was resolved in 2000. But at the same time, I was convinced of one thing: we must let the system work, and accept its result, no matter how unjust it might appear.
With this acceptance, we placed our implicit faith in the Bush Administration that it would not abuse its position: that it would recognize its fragile mandate for what it was, respect the will of the majority of people who voted against them, and move to build consensus wherever possible and effect change cautiously when needed. Above all, we believed that both Democrats and Republicans would recognize the over-riding importance of revitalizing the integrity of the electoral system and healing the bruised faith of both constituencies.
This faith has been shattered. Bush has not led the nation to unity, but ruled through fear and division. Dishonesty and deceit in areas critical to the public interest have been the hallmark of his Administration. I state this not to throw gratuitous insults, but to place the Florida and Ohio electoral results in their proper context. For the GOP to claim now that we must take anything on faith, let alone astonishingly suspicious results in a hard-fought and extraordinarily bitter election, is pure fantasy. It does not even merit discussion.
The facts as I see them now defy all logical explanations save one--massive and systematic vote fraud. We cannot accept the result of the 2004 presidential election as legitimate until these discrepancies are rigorously and completely explained. From the Valerie Plame case to the horrors of Abu Ghraib, George Bush has been reluctant to seek answers and assign accountability when it does not suit his purposes. But this is one time when no American should accept not getting a straight answer. Until then, George Bush is still, and will remain, the ‘Accidental President' of 2000. One of his many enduring and shameful legacies will be that of seizing power through two illegitimate elections conducted on his brother's watch, and engineering a fundamental corruption at the very heart of the greatest democracy the world has known. We must not permit this to happen again.
Do you think Bush really won Florida? The take a look at This Chart and tell me why there is such a huge shift in votes in favor of Bush as compared to the expected results. Especially when the exit polls - not shown in the graph - agree with the respected results.
What is the relationship between IQ and voting? Well - This Site answers the question. And it explains why Republicans want to gut Head Start and education.
I was watching the NBC evening news tonight as they dismissed people like me who question the results of the election - inferring that we are all part of the tin foil hat club. But where do left wing nutcases like myself get our information? What makes us think there's something to this? Well - I saw in on a report by Keith Oberman of MSNBC who spelled out a lot of the details. Areas where there are more votes than voters - areas that are 80% Democrat voting 80% for Bush - and exit polls that show a kerry landslide? And we are suppoed to trust these results?
So if NBC wants to understand why we don't trust the election - it's because we are watching NBC. If this election wasn't stolen - no one would ever know it because of all the cheating.
Where have we heard THAT before?
Here's yet another story that you won't see in the Republican press. Who os Alberto Gonzales? He's the guy who did the legal work to justify the torture at Abu Ghraib prison. The Bush administration wanted to torture people and needed a legal justification. The needed someone to torture and twist the law and the constitution to justify bush's position in case torture and murder came to light. Alberto Gonzales was the hatchet man who did the job.
Here's an example of his work. This is a guy who should be in jail for war crimes - not as attorney general.
This is the start of my review of the elections. So who is tougher? Most people would think veterans are - and if you do - you are wrong.
Lets go down the list and see who's tough and who's a pussy.
I'm still trying to figure out this election. I've been really busy lately but I do have things to say, and I will say them.
But - this idea that Bush was elected on moral values is insane. I suppose cheating and voter suppression is a moral value? Supposedly they determined this from exit polls? The same exit polls that indicated Kerry won by a landslide? Sorry - Karl Rove wrote that script and I'm not buying it.
Snagged this from Slate
Updated Late Afternoon Numbers
Mucho flattering to Kerry; plus Nader makes an appearance.
By Jack Shafer
Updated Tuesday, Nov. 2, 2004, at 4:28 PM PT
Florida
Kerry 51
Bush 49
Ohio
Kerry 51
Bush 49
Michigan
Kerry 52
Bush 46
Nader 1
Pennsylvania
Kerry 53
Bush 46
Iowa
Kerry 50
Bush 49
Wisconsin
Kerry 51
Bush 48
Nader 1
Minnesota
Kerry 52
Bush 46
Nader 2
New Hampshire
Kerry 54
Bush 44
Nader 1
New Mexico
Kerry 50
Bush 48
Nader 1
Colorado
Kerry 49
Bush 50
Nader 1
Arkansas
Kerry 45
Bush 54
Nader 1
Missouri
Kerry 47
Bush 52
New York
Kerry 62
Bush 36
Nader 2
Nevada
Kerry 49
Bush 48
Nader 1
New Jersey
Kerry 54
Bush 44
Nader 1
West Virginia
Kerry 45
Bush 54
Nader 1
Why is Slate running these numbers? See this morning's piece. ... 4:20 p.m. PT
Late Afternoon Exit Polls: It's a tight squeeze: In the national exit poll, Kerry leads Bush 51-48. In Wisconsin he's up by three, and in Ohio and Florida he leads by one.
Bush stole yet another election making it two stolen elections in a row. Republican's in Ohio succeeded in suppressing the Democratic vote. It also proved that the voting machines can be hacked in ways that are untracable so far.
There is a huge gap in the results of exit polls and the results of he election and I don't think the exit polls are wrong. It will be interesting to see if the "error" in the exit polling is different in places with electronic voting than paper balots.
Nonetheless - we still have an unelected ductator and we need to do everything in our power to take America back.
The Democrats are trying to get everyone to vote - especially Democrats. Republicans are working to prevent people from voting - especially Democrats.
That is an interesting question. And it depends on how close it is. The news media in an attempt to appear responsible will not start calling the results until the polls close. But - that doesn't mean they don't know beforehand.
In races where there is a significant gap there is exit polling and the news media knows these figures. Just because they don't tell you who won doesn't mean they don't know. They need to know ahead to figure out how to coner the event. And - I think you'll be able to tell by things they hint at which way things are going.
In fact - and trying not to be optimistic - but most media I see seem to be aware that Kerry is winning. A lot of voting has already occurred and there may be enough information out there to make a good guess.
I am hopeful that the dark day of America will soon be behind us. And - then there's the cheating factor that I'm woried about. Kerry can win by a landslide but between the GOP controlled media they may call Bush the winner like they did the last time.
So - its time to vote. Time to get out there and make a difference. I voted this morning.
I still have Fahrenheit 9-11 online for the next few hours. I don't know when I'm going to take it down but it will be sometime soon. I need to free up the resources so that the discussion software I'm hosting so that people can discuss the election as the results come in.
Daily Times Monitor
LAHORE: Secretary of State Colin Powell has privately confided to friends in recent weeks that the Iraqi insurgents are winning the war, Salon.com quoted Newsweek as having reported.
The insurgents have succeeded in infiltrating Iraqi forces “from top to bottom,” a senior Iraqi official told Newsweek in its Monday’s issue, “from decision making to the lower levels”.
This is a particularly troubling development for the US military, as it prepares to launch an allout assault on the insurgent strongholds of Fallujah and Ramadi, since US Marines were counting on the newly trained Iraqi forces to assist in the assault.
Newsweek reported that “American military trainers have been frantically trying to assemble sufficient Iraqi troops” to fight alongside them and that they are “praying that the soldiers perform better than last April, when two battalions of poorly trained Iraqi Army soldiers refused to fight.” “If the Fallujah offensive fails, the American president will find himself in a deepening quagmire on Inauguration Day,” Salon.com quoted Newsweek as saying.
Nov 1 2004
TONY Blair has privately admitted that he wants Democrat John Kerry to win tomorrow's US election.
The Prime Minister has acknowledged to at least two confidantes that a Kerry win would be a 'lifeline' for his own political future.
If Kerry does triumph, the result will undoubtedly help draw the poison out of the Iraq debate in Britain in the run up to a general election It would mean Blair could focus on the future of Iraq - not the disasters of the past.
And it may also soothe fractured relations within the Labour Party.
This is the last day that I'll be hosting F 9-11. Even though Michael Moore said we could pirate his movie - I believe that really means only till the election. By tomorrow about 50,000 people will have downloaded it directly from my server. Additionally other sites have sprung up that are also hosting it. So I became the site that showed the world that it was OK to do this. So I wouldn't be surprized if hundreds of thousands of people got to see the movie.
I put it up and no one asked me to take it down. Thus it appears that Micheal Moore's offer to share his work for free was genuine that with the blessing of all interested parties. And - I fantasize that if Kerry wins by a small number of votes - that I will be the one who put him over the top.
I was interviewed by Wired Magazine and was asked if I was aware of any right wing sites doing the same thing. I said that I wasn't - and that it would be illegal if they did. You see - Michael Moore gave it away for free - but the greedy Republicans didn't so I have the advantage over them. I'm not breaking the law - but they would be. Kerry might get elected because Democrats are more generous than Republicans.
font color=red>OBL message was directed at Kerry
Trying to put all my partisan biases aside - what does the OBL tape really mean? OBL had a message - but what is he really trying to say and accomplish?
After giving this careful thought it looks to me like he is NOT trying to affect the outcome of the election in spite of the fact that it comes just days before the election. There are so many elements that both hurt Bush and help Bush that I have to say it's neutal.
Let's look at the facts and see if there is a big picture here. We all know that OBL was behind 9-11. And we all now know that he's free and apparently doing well. And I think that one of the missing pieces of the puzzle is - that Bush and Osama have made a deal. And the deal is - you don't kill me - and I won't attack America.
Over a year ago the Times of India ran an article suggesting that Bush and OBL made a deal. Bush doesn't want Packistan to capture OBL. Then when Bush hd OBL at Tora Bora - he let him get away on purpose. But the think that really points to a deal is that Bush has actively downplayed the importance of capturing OBL. He has made many statements like, “I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run.” He described bin as “marginalized” and said, “I just don’t spend that much time on him.”
So - for those of you who are wondering why America hasn't been attacked - it's not the Patriot Act - the Jailing of Martha Stewart - or the deportation of Cat Stevens. Bush made a deal with OBL and as a result - we have a small wondow of security in exchange for OBL prospering in the middle east. I for one think its a bad deal.
So - now we are on the verge of an election and OBL appears on TV. Why? Because he has a message for Kerry. OBL can see that Bush is about to lose and if Bush loses - the deal goes away. So OBL is reacking out to Kerry to continue the deal. That is the message and that's why OBL made it.
Look at his change in demeanor. For the first time he is well dressed and groomed. He is not shown carrying a gun. He is going out of his was to be charking rather than threatening. As if he is preparing the American public that his deal - "you don't attack usd and we won't attack you" is something that is acceptable. And at some point Bush is going to have to break it to Kerry that there is a deal or the message will get to him through the Saudi embasy.
Making the deal with OBL is a serious mistake. Its a short term fix but the kind of fix that will get us into trouble in the long run. America has a history - mostly under Republican presidents - of getting into bed with the wrong people. OBL has now joined the club with Saddam Husein, the Shaw of Iran, Marcos, Franko, Noreiga, Pol Pot, Charles Taylor, Pinochet, and others. This is a mistake - and it will end under Kerry - I hope.
The reason is because if you vote on Monday - you've voted. If you vote on Teusday then you might run into Republican dirty tricks that might prevent you from voting. You might only have an hour lunch break and the Republicans hold you up to long and you can't vote. Or - there's just long lines.
By voting early you not only get to vote - but you are not in line Teusday so someone else can vote too. As they say - vote early and often. Especially this year.
Stephen Hawking, Britain's most eminent scientist, has become the latest prominent opponent of the Iraq war by agreeing to take the lead role in a ceremonial protest to coincide with the United States presidential election.
Peace protesters will gather in Trafalgar Square at 5pm on Tuesday, where they will read out the names of 5,000 Iraqi men, women and children known to have died in the conflict.
The full death toll was put last week as high as 100,000.
Playwrights Harold Pinter and David Hare, actress Juliet Stevenson, the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, and relatives of British soldiers killed in action in Iraq have all agreed to take part.
Professor Hawking, the author of the best-selling book A Brief History of Time, is wheelchair-bound as a sufferer from motor neurone disease. He recorded a message on Friday that will be broadcast at the start of the rally.
The oldest protester in Trafalgar Square is likely to be a fellow scientist, the Nobel Peace Prize winner Sir Joseph Rotblat. In the 1940s, he resigned from his job developing the world's first atomic bomb on moral grounds.
Sir Joseph, who will be 96 on Thursday, said: "In this nuclear age, we simply cannot allow others to start military action unless everything else has ... been tried and has failed."
The rally comes at a time when its organisers from the Stop the War Coalition have been embroiled in controversy with one of its biggest backers, the giant public sector union Unison, which has links with the Iraqi Federation of Trade Unions, (IFTU) whose general secretary, Subhi al-Mashadani, spent more than 10 years in prison under Saddam Hussein.
Unison leaders were appalled when Mr Mashadani was barracked and jostled at a London conference two weeks ago by left-wing delegates who accused him of being a stooge for the US and British governments. The row is threatening to become an issue inside Unison, where an election is taking place for the post of general secretary - the most powerful job in the trade union movement.
Left-wing activists in the union are trying to unseat the current general secretary, Dave Prentis, for being too close to Tony Blair.
Jon Rogers, the left-wing challenger, has accused two of Mr Prentis's senior advisers, Maggie Jones and Nick Sigler, of trying to split the union from the anti-war movement. Ms Jones, who is Unison's policy director, is a former Labour Party chairman and is expected to become Labour MP for Blaenau Gwent at the next election.
Mr Sigler, who heads the union's international department, worked for many years at Labour Party headquarters.
"It is not in the best interests of Unison for circumstances to arise in which it can appear that our union is being used as a vehicle by the Labour Party leader-ship to sow division in the anti-war movement," Mr Rogers claimed in a letter to Mr Prentis, leaked to The Independent on Sunday.
Actual transcript from Larry King Live.
KING: OK, Walter. What do you make of this?
CRONKITE: Well, I make it out to be initially the reaction that it's a threat to us, that unless we make peace with him, in a sense, we can expect further attacks. He did not say that precisely, but it sounds like that when he says...
KING: The warning.
CRONKITE: What we just heard. So now the question is basically right now, how will this affect the election? And I have a feeling that it could tilt the election a bit. In fact, I'm a little inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing. The advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of, as a principal subject of the campaigns right now, get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive dump. Right now, that, the last couple of days, has, I think, upset the Republican campaign.
KING: Are there enough undecideds to tilt this? Or what do you think of the whole election picture?
CRONKITE: Well, I think it's one of the biggest messes we've had in a long time. I believe that we're undoubtedly not going to know the results of this election. I don't want to knock you off the air on Monday night or anything, or Tuesday night. But I suspect that we're not going to know who the next president is, whether it is Bush or the new man, until very probably sometime in the early spring. There's so much controversy that they're planting, deliberately planting at the polls, that there's almost certainly to be a suit going back to the Supreme Court eventually, going through the other courts slowly first.
EXCLUSIVE:
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS video may be linked to missing explosives in Iraq
A 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared.
The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.
Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS determined our crew embedded with them may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where that ammunition disappeared. Our crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa. On April 18, 2003 they drove two or three miles north into what is believed to be that area.
During that trip, members of the 101st Airborne Division showed the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew bunker after bunker of material labelled explosives. Usually it took just the snap of a bolt cutter to get in and see the material identified by the 101st as detonation cords.
"We can stick it in those and make some good bombs." a soldier told our crew.
There were what appeared to be fuses for bombs. They also found bags of material men from the 101st couldn't identify, but box after box was clearly marked "explosive."
In one bunker, there were boxes marked with the name "Al Qaqaa", the munitions plant where tons of explosives allegedly went missing.
Once the doors to the bunkers were opened, they weren't secured. They were left open when the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew and the military went back to their base.
"We weren't quite sure what were looking at, but we saw so much of it and it didn't appear that this was being secured in any way," said photojournalist Joe Caffrey. "It was several miles away from where military people were staying in their tents".
Officers with the 101st Airborne told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that the bunkers were within the U.S. military perimeter and protected. But Caffrey and former 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Reporter Dean Staley, who spent three months in Iraq, said Iraqis were coming and going freely.
"At one point there was a group of Iraqis driving around in a pick up truck,"Staley said. "Three or four guys we kept an eye on, worried they might come near us."
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS e-mailed pictures of the material we found to experts in Washington Wednesday to see if it is the same kind of high explosives that went missing in Al Qaqaa. They could not make that determination.
The footage is now in the hands of security experts to see if it is indeed the explosives in question.
Is the video too big for you? Well now you can hear Fahrenheit 9-11. I have separated the audio track and you can Download it Here. It's only 14 megs - far smaller than the 650 meg video. Download it and pass it around.
Note - these files will be taken down on Nov 2. The only reason I have them here is for the election. Once that is over then you should go to the theathers and video stores and see the movie there. I want to thank Michael Moore and the distributors for allowing me and others like me to make the available to you to be downloaded. I've heard that this will be shown election night on pay-per-view. I encourage everyone to return Moore's generocity, and that of Lion's Gate, and pay to see it.
Want to see just a few clips of F 9/11? You can download it in pieces here.
If you can help host these files on your server it will get to more people.
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OK - I've taken the link down in order to get the server ready for the election results. I want to thank Michael Moore for generously granting permission to pass these files around. Over 50,000 of you downloaded it from my site - and there were a number of other sites who posted this because I did it first.
For those who are wondering - at no time has anyone contacted me to take the files offline. This confirms my position against the critics that Michael Moore not only gave permission - but had the authority to do so.
Here's a Movie of Bush flipping the bird! I'd like to see christian conservatives explain this!
Michael Moore has made several Public Statements that web sites should pirate his movie. He cares more about getting rid of Bush than making money. He says he has already made plenty of money on it and he wants people like me to spread it around. So I'm relying on his statements as a grant to spread it around.
Copyright information can be found Here.
In the 1990s the world was facing a crisis - the Y2K issue where it was predicted that computer networks were going to crash so bad that it would be the end of civilization. There was two modes of behavior in response to this threat. One was to buy food and generators and prepare for the end of the world. The other was to start a massive effort to reviewing the computer code and fixing the problems before the year 2000 hit. As a result - the Y2K apocalypse never occurred. The survivalists crawled out of their caves and rejoined society.
We are now facing a similar issue about where society will go. We have a choice between terror an hope. To choose a path of war or peace. o we engage in an unending war against enemies both real and imagined? Or - do we do the hard work and fix the problem? Do we proceed on a war footing or a footing of peace. Do we face the problems and fix them - or do we crawl into our caves and await the end of the world? In this election we have a message of terror and a message of hope. Hope is the hard path because it requires more work up front. But war doesn't solve the problem. Eventually - you have to do the hard work - you have to win the peace.
That is the choice we have today between Kerry and Bush. It's the choice between hope and terror. We need to fix the problem. So I'm voting for Kerry.
People are asking the question - will Bush bring back the draft? Well - you can take Bush's word for it that he won''t - and if you just believe everything Bush tells you - then you can stop reading now.
But - for those of you who are still wondering - let's reason this out.
Vote for Kerry - or die for oil!
Not very. Here's a movie about it. Created by technical experts who really understand the problem in detail. The files are very big so if you don't have a high speed connection - it will probably take too long to download.
The Republican National Committee (RNC) has hired firms in serveral states including Oregon and Nevada to pretend to register democrats and then throw the registrations in the trash. Sometimes using the names of Democratic groups to fool Democrats into thinking they are registering when they aren't.
The Republican owned news media is trying to avoid this story and is not giving it the attention it deserves. I think that this is at least as big as dan Rather's mistake - and you can bet that if the DNC were tearing up Republican voter registrations it would be a national scandal.
In order for Democrats to win - they have to get 60% of the vote to offset Republican cheating. It looks like everything is being set up for yet another stolen election.
Having said that - I was bored. I think both of them played it safe. Both of them tried hard not to make a mistake. I thought it would be more agressive. I wanted a fight. I wanted some action.
We'll see how the polling goes. I give it to Kerry because his facts were far better than Bush. Kerry had the easier argument because reality is on Kerry's side. When it come to style however - no winner there.
For what it's worth - I think both of them did worse than they did last time. The result - Kerry will gain a little. Bush has failed to turn it around. So - it's up to the October surprise and cheating for Bush to win now.
With Kerry clearly winning the first two debates the pressure is on Bush big time to have a decisive victory. If Bush merely ties that probably isn't good enough. But it would be better than losing and if you use Bush math - Bush and the Republican controlled media will score a tie as a win. And as usual - the slant will be in favor of Bush.
They say that no one who has lost all the debates has won the presidency. This is a statement that I think has a basis in reality.
So - look for Bush to take more chances looking for a knockout or a sucker punch. But - if Bush take chances - it could backfire on him.
I'm looking for a hump on Bush's back - but I doubt you'll see it this time because everyone is looking for it. If I were the electronics guy builting the secret receiver - I'd put it in Bush's crotch - making him look like he has a bigger dick that Kerry - two birds - one stone.
But I do think that they should pat down the candidates to see if they are cheating. Can you imagine if Bush were caught cheating? Or if Kerry says, "Hey Bush - What's that hump on your back? Take off your jacket! " Then Kerry chases Bush around the stage trying to pull Bush's jacket off.
Kerry has the expectation problem. He is favored to win and can't shake that expectation. So if Kerry wins - he sort of stays even. Kerry could take Bush out with a good zinger tonight. But - Kerry can still fuck up. It is unlikely that Bush can win - but Kerry can lose. Will Kerry play it safe and conservative and just beat Bush by a little - or will he stomp Bush into the dust - or will he fuck up and lose?
In the Bush vs. Gore debate - Bush didn't beat Gore - Gore lost to Bush. It was Gore's screwups that cost him the election - not Bush's prowess. So - Bush's big chance will only come if Kerry makes a serious mistake.
This is why central ownership of thye media is a bad idea.
THE NATION
Conservative TV Group to Air Anti-Kerry Film
Sinclair, with reach into many of the nation's homes, will preempt prime-time shows. Experts call the move highly unusual.
By Elizabeth Jensen, Times Staff Writer
NEW YORK -- The conservative-leaning Sinclair Broadcast Group, whose television outlets reach nearly a quarter of the nation's homes with TV, is ordering its stations to preempt regular programming just days before the Nov. 2 election to air a film that attacks Sen. John F. Kerry's activism against the Vietnam War, network and station executives familiar with the plan said Friday.
Sinclair's programming plan, communicated to executives in recent days and coming in the thick of a close and intense presidential race, is highly unusual even in a political season that has been marked by media controversies.
Sinclair has told its stations -- many of them in political swing states such as Ohio and Florida -- to air "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal," sources said. The film, funded by Pennsylvania veterans and produced by a veteran and former Washington Times reporter, features former POWs accusing Kerry -- a decorated Navy veteran turned war protester -- of worsening their ordeal by prolonging the war. Sinclair will preempt regular prime-time programming from the networks to show the film, which may be classified as news programming, according to TV executives familiar with the plan.
Executives at Sinclair did not return calls seeking comment, but the Kerry campaign accused the company of pressuring its stations to influence the political process.
Kerry won it again. It was as I predicted not a slaughter. He was still as wrong as ever on the facts. But his style wasn't terrible as he was the last time. Still - when it comes to how the viewing audience will see this - it depends on if they check out the facts or not. If you check the facts - Kerry wins. If you don't know the facts then it depends on who's style you like better.
So - I'm going to watch Star Trek Enterprize. First show of the year in the new season. So - I'll be bask after I get my Trek fix.
I told Kerry a lie - and Kerry believed my lie - therefore Kerry and I agreed. And now just because he discovered he was suckered - he wants to flip flop and change his mind.
It is true that most of Iraq is now run by Iraqis. But it's not what it sounds like. You see - most of Iraq is controlled by the insurgents which are Iraqi's. The rest of the country live under the tyranny of a foreign oppressor.
Neither one of these two situation is freedom or democracy. Both are worse than they were under Saddam.
And that is the reality of what is happening today in Iraq.
How bad is the economy? The economy is so bad that Herbert Hoover is flip flopping in his grave!
I remember when you could drive into a gas station and put 5 bucks in and it was significant. But now 5 bucks of gas is less that 2 gallons and it keeps going up. If we have 4 more years of Bush it's going to cost $100 every time you want to fill up the tank.
Coming up on the second debate between Bush and Kerry. What are the stakes this time?
First - at this point all honest people know that Kerry beat Bush to a pulp last time. Could Bush do even worse this time? I have to say I doubt it. I'm predicting Bush will do better.
So - how will the media spin that? They will use "Bush Math" to describe it. Bush will have made "great progress" since the first debate, where Kerry made "no progress". Thus they will conclude that Bush has momentum and Kerry doesn't. That Bush's gains since last time was far greater than Kerry's gains. Bush is moving forward while Kerry is standing still.
It's the same math as they use on the economy. When the deficit doesn't increase as fast as some predicted it would - then Bush calls that "progress" and a "recovery".
I have no doubt that Kerry will wind the second debate. The only variables are by how much and how the media will lie about who won. In the VP debate Edwards clearly won - but the media disagrees with reality and after being pressured by Bush - they are now saying the Bush admin line.
Microsoft NBC was the biggest whore. No matter what happens in Friday's debate - MsNBC will say that Bush won it. They are totally sold out.
But - there will be viewers and people will get to see it for themselves. My hope is that there will be a big audience to watch so that it doesn't get filtered by the Republican controlled news media.
During the debate - Cheney siad to go to FactCheck.com and check out the facts. I agree - go there and find out for yourself.
It's interesting to see that Fox News has it more accurate than Microsoft NBC. Fox seems to know that Cheney got his ass kicked and trying to explain that. Microsoft NBC thinks Cheney won it in spite of the reality that Republicans are very unhappy tonight about the job Cheney did.
The numbers I'm looking for is the audience size. How many people actually watched it because if the audience was high - then that's good for Kerry. That means that people were interested and that they got to see it first hand for themselves.
What's interesting is that Microsoft NBC seems to disagree with its viewers. 70% give it to Edwards and 30% for Cheney. So I would say that Microsoft NBC is losing the debate with it's viewers.
So - are all these online polls wrong? Do Democrats have more computers than Republicans? I agree that online polls are less scientific that GOP manipulated polls - but when it's so slanted in favor of Edwards - there has to be some reality there.
CNN changed the question on their web site. Instead of asking who won - now they are asking if the debate will help you decide. CNN doesn't want to call it for Edwards who was winning 85 to 15 percent when CNM pulled the poll.
I'm seeing far less polls tonoght than I did last thursday. I see less that 1/3 of the polls last week. Seems to me that the news media doesn't want us to vote online any more because the voice of the people must be suppressed.
CBS News running 87 Edwards - 20% Cheney.
Fox News - with 184,000 votes Edwards winning 53% to 46%. And Fox is heavily biased towards Republicans. What this says is that Republicans know Edwards won it. Thanks to Fox for being a little more honest than NBC.
Admit it! If Edwards wins a poll on FOX - Edwards won it! And he won it BIG!!!
Another happy night for me. Edwards kicked butt! I didn't think he was going to do much more than tie Cheney and I thought Cheney was going to do a lot better than he did. Cheney did come across as Darth Vader and he also came across as not very smart.
I suppose that that might be good because he didn't come across as being way smarter than Bush - but it is also ad that he didn't come across as being smarter than Bush.
The body language said it all. Edwards was cool and composed and his answers ware simple and straigt forward. Cheney was tight and nervous. His sholders were shrugged and hands clasped in tension. It was about the 3rd question that you could see Cheney starting to lose it.
Cheney did what people were worried that Kerry was going to do. He got involved in complicated answers that left the viewers behind and confused. Edwards answers were simple and clear - and were far more accurate.
So - all Edwards had to do was tie it and he came across as far stronger that Cheney. I think the viewers would think that Edwards was more prepared to be president than Cheney.
This is going to be an interesting debate. Cheney has the experience advantage - but also the experience disadvantage in that there's the Cheney Bush record of failure he has to try to pass off as some sort of success. I expect the VP debate to be smarter than the last presidential debate.
Unlike his performance in the real world - Cheney will come across as a nice guy. He will not be Darth Vader and anyone who underestimates him will be making a mistake.
I'm sure Halliberton will be mentioned - but not sure how it will play out. The real targets are at the top of the ticket and both of them know it.
Edwards is a legendary trial lawyer and he got that way because he can not only think on his feel - but can convince a jury to vote his way. Edwards is definitely the most likable person in the race and his personality will draw people to the ticket who are uncomfortable with Kerry's personality.
Cheney will create confidence in the ticket where people are worried that Bush is to stupid to be president. I think it would help Cheney to just admit he's the puppeteer and Bush is the puppet.
Momentum is with Kerry so Cheney has to do better than just beat Edwards or hold his own. Cheney needs a decisive win just to stop the bleeding. Edwards needs to handle the issue that he isn't experienced enough to become president in case some right wing idiot kills the president. If the debate is a tie - that's not good enough for the Bush team because for Edwards to tie Cheney makes him as big as Cheney.
As to Edwards being a lawyer - that's not going to count against him. As to Cheney being a business CEO - that's not going to count against him either. If this debate is about hating lawyers vs. hating corporate execs - no one wins.
If I were Edwards - I would talk about the future of America. Where were we four years ago - where are we now - which was are we heading - and do we want to stay the course to failure - or do we want to go back to success?
That's my take on the pre debate spin. Let's see what happens.
Here's a Quick Time Movie that gets the GOP message down to a few words and phrases.
I've been admiring Bush's ability to take failure and try to describe it as a success. Bush will say that because the economy isn't failing as fast as predicted as a recovery. That somehow going from the biggest surplus in the history of the world to the biggest deficit in the history of the world is a strong economy.
So I got inspired by this and pointed out to my girlfriend that the number of women in the world that I didn't sleep with is greater than the number of men in the world that she didn't sleep with.
Nader to Hit Swing States; Kerry Improves
By THEO EMERY, Associated Press Writer
BOSTON - With polls showing a narrowing gap between President Bush and Sen. John Kerry, independent candidate Ralph Nader said Sunday that he planned to continue campaigning in key battleground states in the final month of the presidential election.
In a Newsweek poll, the first taken since the debate Thursday night, Kerry was running even with Bush after having trailed him in the same survey last month. A Los Angeles Times poll of debate viewers showed favorable perceptions of Kerry rose 5 percent, but the survey of 725 registered voters indicated little change in overall backing for the two candidates.
The Times poll, which had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, was released for Sunday's editions.
The Newsweek poll showed Kerry had the support of 47 percent and Bush 45 percent, with Nader at 2 percent.
Bush led 49-43 in the poll in early September and was up by 11 points in the poll following the GOP convention. The Newsweek poll of 1,013 registered voters was taken from late Thursday to early Saturday and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Nader has long disputed the charge that he will be a "spoiler" for the Democrats in November. Critics have said his candidacy cost Democrat Al Gore the presidential election in 2000 when he lost by just a few hundred votes in Florida, where the liberal Nader got 97,000 votes for his Green Party candidacy.
While preparing for a campaign trip that begins at Harvard on Monday and continues to the swing states of Maine and New Hampshire on Tuesday, Nader said defeating Bush is a priority, but he's still trying to capture as many votes as possible in November.
"The assumption of all these questions is that I take more votes away from Kerry than Bush. Part of that is in Kerry's hands. He once said he wants to take away my votes by taking away my issues: I'm delivering it to him on a silver platter. He's responsible for that problem," Nader said.
Tobe Berkovitz, a political analyst and professor of communication at Boston University, said Nader's role could prove pivotal once again in the election.
"Nader is a factor because, in a race that seems to be this close, a point here, two points there in a battleground state can make a real difference in the Electoral College," he said.
Nader said that his supporters don't pull votes from one party or the other. Rather, half of his supporters would not otherwise vote at all, and the other half are split equally between Kerry and Bush.
"You never know. Our problem is how to break up the two-party system, not how to concede to one or the other," he said.
Nader's potential swing role for the election spurred a California peace activist to pledge last week not to eat until Nov. 2 in an effort to persuade Nader to drop out of the race.
"We're sending him some carrot juice," Nader said Sunday.
Letter to the Editor
Some things change and some things stay the same. What's the same are Republicans trying to amend the Constitution on an election year. But what's different is that in the good old days - instead of an amendment barring gay marriage - they used to try to pass a balanced budget amendment. But with Republicans in charge of the House and Senate and with a Republican president and the biggest deficit in the history of the world - you won't see a balanced budget amendment any time soon.
First of all - Kerry won the debate big time. What do I say that and how do I objectively know that? Because Kerry's team is doing hand flips and Bush's team is crying and making excuses.
So - how is the media spinning the debate?
CNN - Reading this you'd think Bush won:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/debate.main/index.html
In a CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey of 615 registered voters who watched the debate, most said Kerry did the better job and almost half said the debate made them think more favorably of Kerry. (Special Report: America Votes, 2004, the debates)
By narrow margins, Bush came out better on believability, likeability and toughness. But there was virtually no change among those polled on which candidate would handle Iraq better or make a better commander-in-chief.
Microsoft NBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123725/
No polling information.
CBS - Experts rate the debate a draw
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/01/politics/main646711.shtml
ABC - Kerry wins but no change
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20041001_648.html
USA Today - Kerry Wins - they get it right!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-10-01-battleground-debate_x.htm
I'm posting this whole article from the National Review in case they try to pull it or change it. Sure answers the question on who won the debate.
by Jay Nordlinger. National Review Managing Editor.
I thought Kerry did very, very well; and I thought Bush did poorly — much worse than he is capable of doing. Listen: If I were just a normal guy — not Joe Political Junkie — I would vote for Kerry. On the basis of that debate, I would. If I were just a normal, fairly conservative, war-supporting guy: I would vote for Kerry. On the basis of that debate.
And I promise you that no one wants this president reelected more than I. I think that he may want it less.
Let me phrase one more time what I wish to say: If I didn't know anything — were a political naïf, being introduced to the two candidates for the first time — I would vote for Kerry. Based on that infernal debate.
As I write this column, I have not talked with anyone about the debate, and I have listened to no commentary. I am writing without influence (which is how I try to do my other criticism, by the way). What I say may be absurd in light of the general reaction — but so be it.
I'd like to share with you some notes I made during the debate. You may recall that I offered similar scribbles from the two conventions.
Bush "won the stride." By that I mean that he crossed the center of the stage first, to shake his opponent's hand. In 1980, Reagan strode over to shake Carter's hand — and utterly surprised him. Carter was sunk almost from that moment.
Kerry must be darned tall — he made Bush look pretty short. Same as the Bush 41-Dukakis gap? Not sure.
As he began, Kerry spoke clearly, and at a nice pace. He was disciplined about the clock. I wasn't nuts about those double fists he made — but he relaxed them as the evening wore on.
Kerry went right to the alliances. He emphasized the importance of such relationships. At least you can't accuse him of succumbing to Republican mockery on the subject, of shucking this core conviction of his.
Bush, throughout the evening, as Kerry spoke, had that pursed and annoyed look. I think it must have driven many people crazy. (I happen to love his whole battery of looks — but I'm weird.) Also, the president did his eye-closing thing, just a little. Could have been worse.
Furthermore, Bush sounded very Texan — I mean, extremely. More Texan, more drawly, more twangy than usual. I think the more tired he is — and, as a rule, the later in the day it is — the more Texan he sounds.
He was right to say that the enemy understands what is at stake in Iraq — bingo. In fact, Bush was never stronger than in the opening rounds of the debate.
Kerry was smart to mention all those military bigwigs who support him. We conservatives roll our eyes when we hear this; sure, Kerry can roll out about ten; we can roll out about ten thousand. But this support for Kerry will be news to many Americans.
The senator seemed to rattle the president, about 15 minutes in — and he stayed rattled. Also, the president was on the defensive almost all the time. Rarely did he put Kerry on the defensive. Kerry could relax, and press.
I was hoping that Bush would put Kerry on trial — make him the issue. Sure, Bush is the incumbent. But it can be done.
Kerry was effective in talking about parents who have lost sons or daughters in the war. Bush was fairly good, later, too — but not quite as good, I thought. (These are all "I thoughts.")
Although the two candidates had the same amount of time, Kerry got many, many more words in. And they weren't rushed words. Kerry spoke at a good, measured pace all through.
Bush said, "We're makin' progress" a hundred times — that seemed a little desperate. He also said "mixed messages" a hundred times — I was wishing that he would mix his message. He said, "It's hard work," or, "It's tough," a hundred times. In fact, Bush reminded me of Dan Quayle in the 1988 debate, when the Hoosier repeated a couple of talking points over and over, to some chuckles from the audience (if I recall correctly).
Staying on message is one thing; robotic repetition — when there are oceans of material available — is another.
When Kerry said that our people in the military didn't have enough equipment, Bush was pretty much blasé. He showed no indignation. He might have said, "How dare you? How dare you contend that I am leaving our fighting men and women defenseless!"
I hate to say it, but often Bush gave the appearance of being what his critics charge he is: callow, jejune, unserious. And remember — talk about repetition! — I concede this as someone who loves the man.
When he talked about Iraq, he ran the risk of sounding Pollyanna-ish — a little head-in-the-sand-ish. Bush is not. But he might have left that impression.
And why didn't he do more to tie the Iraq war to 9/11? To the general War on Terror? Why didn't he remind people that this is a war of self-defense — that, after 9/11, we couldn't go back to the days of episodic strikes, and law enforcement, and intelligence gathering?
And why didn't he shove Kofi Annan down Kerry's throat? "My allegiance is not to Mr. Annan; my allegiance is to the American people. The secretary-general has called our war illegal. Nuts to him."
Kerry kept mentioning Bush's father — how good he was, as compared with 43. Why didn't Bush let loose the significant fact that Kerry voted against the 1991 Gulf War?
When it came time to mention our allies in the Iraq campaign, Bush mentioned only Blair and the Polish premier. That made it seem like a pathetically short list — no Italy, no Spain, no Australia.
In fact, it was Kerry who had to bring up Australia!
When Moderator Lehrer and Kerry were talking about American casualties, Bush might have brought up the 9/11 casualties — and the casualties we might have incurred had we not acted against Saddam Hussein. "We ran the risk of suffering a lot more deaths if we had let Saddam remain in power."
Look, I'm not Monday-morning quarterbacking here. This is not simple esprit d'escalier. This is all basic.
Bush could have mentioned that Saddam was a great harborer and funder of terrorists. He let Kerry get away with saying that Iraq and terror had nothing to do with each other.
Why did Bush keep requesting a special 30 seconds to say the same thing over and over?
Kerry used Secretary Powell against Bush repeatedly, and effectively — same as he used 41 against him. Bush never parried.
I'm thinking that Bush didn't respect Kerry enough. That he didn't prepare enough. That he had kind of a disdain for the assignment — "For gooness' sake, the American people are with me. They know I'm doin' the necessary. They're not going to dump me for this phony-baloney."
Well, they may opt for the phony-baloney.
I had a feeling that, as the debate progressed, Kerry felt very lucky to be hit with so little. To be relatively untouched.
On other occasions, Bush has been extremely persuasive in talking about the "risks of action" versus the "risks of inaction." Could have used that — to remind people of the choices he faced.
I have a feeling that Bush could have done just the same — exactly the same, no better, no worse — with zero preparation. With no practice at all. Just wingin' it.
Kerry said, "I've never wavered in my life." That's ridiculous. Who doesn't waver in his life?
Strangely enough, it was Bush who got bogged down in detail — trying to remember detail — not Kerry, who was good on generalities (as well as details).
So when Bush talks about Iran and North Korea, he gets all ally-loving and anti-unilateralist? He gets all, "Be my guest, Jacques and Gerhard"? Bush may be right; and he may have been trying to show his flexibility; but I think this can confuse the average voter.
And his answer on North Korea is to tout Jiang Zemin, that beast? (At least Scowcroft and Eagleburger should be proud.)
From this debate, you would never know that Kerry is one of the most famous, or infamous, doves and lefties in American politics — lefter than Ted Kennedy, lefter than Hillary. He seemed positively Pattonesque, at times. So now he praises Ronald Reagan! A fabulously disingenuous performance.
Toward the end, Bush mentioned SDI (though weakly). Hurrah.
His pronunciation of "Vladimir" was priceless.
His pronunciation of "mullahs" as "moolahs" was a little less fun — more silly.
Ah, so it's Kerry who mentions George Will! And favorably!
Oh, Bush could have killed Kerry on the Patriot Act. Just killed him. Didn't happen.
Kerry's closing statement was superb — couldn't have made better use of his time. You almost didn't recognize the Massachusetts liberal we have known for 30 years.
Bush was weary — harmfully weary, I think. He let a million opportunities go by. You can't exploit them all, no. We all kick ourselves, after some public performance. But Kerry, it seemed to me, let not one opportunity go by. And he perceived some that I hadn't caught.
Yeah, he screwed up a couple of times: got the "break it, buy it" line wrong; said "Treblinka" instead of "Lubyanka." But that was small beer.
And you know what? The worst thing about Kerry is not that he is inconsistent; not that he is a flip-flopper. The worst thing about him is that he is a reflexive leftist, who has been wrong about nearly everything important his entire career. Nuclear freeze, anybody? Solidarity with the Sandinistas?
This is a man who called the Grenada invasion — carried out by his now-hero Reagan — "a bully's show of force against a weak Third World nation." His view of Grenada was no different from Ron Dellums's.
Friends, I have no doubt that this little reaction column of mine will disappoint many of you. I'm sorry. I have called George W. Bush a Rushmore-level president. I believe history will bear that out; and if it doesn't, history will be wrong. I think that Bush's reelection is crucial not only to this country but to the world at large. I not only think that Bush is the right man for the job; I have a deep fondness — love, really — for the man, though I don't know him.
But tonight (I am writing immediately post-debate) did not show him at his best. Not at all. He will do better — I feel certain — in subsequent debates. I also worry that they count less.
Bush is shorter than Kerry - but he was even shorter tonight because Kerry stood straight up and Bush was slumping. Bush was so out of it that he couldn't even stand up - and it was a reflection of where he was emotionally. Kerry hicked his ass and you could see it in how they stood up.
Kerry was strong and decisive - Bush was week and stupid. He studdered - he stumbled - he was clueless. He was fumbling through his notes looking for answers and came across as clueless. Kerry succeded in making Bush look stupid.
Of course the real test is to see how it affects the polls. But as far as testing it right now - the instant polls are strongly in favor of Kerry. But one of the tests too is that the Kerry people are happy and the Bush people are unhappy. And I think that's probably the best test that we have in the 90 minutes since the debate ended.
And - it looks like even Fox News is conceding that Kerry won. And when they got it - I think everyone got it.
There's 2 more presidential debates - a town hall debate - and one on the economy and domestic issues. This is the one where they were on Bush's turf. It's up hill for Bush now.
I was really nervous about this one - but Kerry really won it. Even the coverage on Fox News showed that Kerry was the clear winner. Bush supporters are clearly depressed and Kerry supporters are clearly elated.
Kerry was no Clinton - or even a Reagan for that matter. But - as I saw on democratic underground.com - Bush looked like a toad sucking lemons.
I can't help to think that the undecided voters are swinging towards Kerry - and that Kerry will win the real test of who won the debate - who gains in the polls.
Letter to the Editor
Having watched the debates I have a problem with the fact that the candidates had prepared notes to read answers from. Several times I saw that Mr. Bush was flipping through what was what we called when I was in school, a cheat sheet, with what seemed to be prepared answers on it, and he was reading from those notes. I didn't see Kerry doing that - but I assume that the rules allow him to do that as well.
I have a problem with that process because it allows other people behind the scenes to participate in a debate that is supposed to be a contest between two men. I would hope that in the upcoming debates that they would change the rules and take away the prepared notes. I want to see these men debate on their own rather than have the ability to read from a script. I want to see how they do on their own without the help of their support staffs.
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Clarification for the confused. Kerry had a notepad and was scribbling notes as Bush spoke. That's OK. Bush had a cheat sheet with answers written on them - I assume that - because he was writing nothing and reading a lot. If he wrote nothing and read a lot - that means that what he brought in already had things written on it. And he had pages of notes because you could see him filipping through them.
Letter to the Editor
The press has been saying that Democrats hate Bush - but I don't think that's true. I think it's more accurate to say that a lot of people are ANGRY with Bush, but they don't hate him. I'm sure that are some people who hate Bush - like if you lost a child in Iraq who died because Bush lied - then you might hate Bush. Or - if your retirement got wiped out because it was all in Enron stock - you might hate Bush,
But for things like taking away civil liberties with the Patriot Act, people losing their jobs, turning the biggest surplus in the history of the world into the biggest deficit in the history of the world, or the rape, torture, and killings at Abu Ghraib prison - I think people are just angry with Bush about that.
So I don't think it's accurate to portray Democrats as people who hate. You have to take into account issues and real reason people might be angry about personal losses and the direction America is heading. I think the media should look closer to see if people really do hate Bush - or if they are just angry with him.
Perhaps so - check out this blog. This makes the race more interesting.
As it turns out. His Islam name - Yusuf Islam - was not on the list. But a similar name - Youssouf Islam - was on the list.
None the less - the Bush administration still insists that Cat Stevens is a terrorist supporter and that the acted properly in deporting him for having a similar name to someone else on the list.
The solution - people with common names or names spelled similar to those who might be on a terrorost list - names like David Nelson - should change their name, or maybe just move to some other country and stay out of America. I don't know why people from free nations would want to visit this country anyway.
Earlier this week Colin Powell defended the deportation:
NEW YORK (AFP) - US Secretary of State Colin Powell defended a US decision to deny entry to British singer Yusuf Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens.
"We have no charges against him," Powell told reporters at the foreign press center here. "We have nothing that would be actionable in our courts, or in the courts in the United Kingdom, I'm sure.
"But it is the procedure that we have been using to know who is coming into our country, know their backgrounds and interests and see whether we believe it is appropriate for them to come in," he said.
"With respect to Cat Stevens ... our Homeland Security Department and intelligence agencies found some information concerning his activities that they felt under our law required him to be placed on a watch list and therefore deny him entry into the United States," Powell said.
"In this instance, information was obtained that suggested he should be placed on the watch list and that's why he was denied entry into the country," he said.
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This is what happens when you suspend the constitution like the Bush administration has done.
So - now that we know that the problem was a spelling error - will they let Cat Stevens in now?
I say - Iraq should put Saddam on the ballot. I'd bet that if Saddam were on the ballot that he would win. Is Iraq better off today than it was before they were "liberated"? I don't think so. The just have a different brutal dictator. The torture and rape are still occurring - and more civilians are still being killed that WSaddam was killing. I would bet that if Saddam was on the ticket he would win. Iraqies would rather be persecuted by their own dictator than by a dictator from a foriegn occupier.
Letter to the Editor
Singer Cat Stevens was "being followed by a Moonshadow" when his life became a "Wild World" - his plane was diverted to Maine and was denied entry into the United States for being on a government no fly list. Mr. Stevens will not be "Sitting" on the "Peace Train" once "Morning Has Broken". The government, acting "Crazy" like a "Hard Headed Woman" has detained Mr. Stevens in the "Foriegner Suite" because he "Can't keep it in" when it comes to his religious choices. He will be deported to some place like "Sweet Jamaica" before he spends "Another Saturday Night" in this country.
With the Patriot Act in place people like Stevens will no longer sing out if they want to sing out - and they will no longer be free if they want to be free. He will not find a new way and he definitely will not do it today. He might have got away with that when he was "Oh Very Young" but America is a different place today. We live in a world where we have surrendered our freedom for the illusion of security and concepts like peace, and freedom, and singing out, and speaking out, is no longer considered patriotic.
The Swift Boats Veterans for "Truth" have be running ads against Kerry because he accused US forces of committing attrocities in Vietnam - as if speaking out is some sort of crime.
The real crime was what was going on in Vietname at the time and the heros were the ones who were speaking out against it. Here is a picture from the My Lai Massacre.
This is what was going on in Vietnam in 1969. US soldiers were mass slaughtering women and children. It was wrong and John Kerry stood up and said it was wrong. The issue that these Bush stooges are running is the think about Kerry I like the most. It makes me want to support him even more.
When it comes down to it - the anti-war movement was right and the government was wrong. This is not what America stands for. This is a nation of peace. This photo and photos like it were what made me decide to oppose the war in the 1970s and burn my draft card.
The war in Vieynam was wrong - but the war in Iraq is even more wrong. In Vietnam they somewhat innocently blundered into the war. No one really intended from the beginning to get as involved as we did. But in Iraq Bush deliberately got us into an unprovoked war for fraudulent reasons. The Iraq war is far more wrong than Vietnam was.
An Introduction to the My Lai Courts-Martial
By Doug Linder
Two tragedies took place in 1968 in Viet Nam. One was the massacre by United States soldiers of as many as 500 unarmed civilians-- old men, women, children-- in My Lai on the morning of March 16. The other was the cover-up of that massacre.
U. S. military officials suspected Quang Ngai Province, more than any other province in South Viet Nam, as being a Viet Cong stronghold. The U. S. targeted the province for the first major U.S. combat operation of the war. Military officials declared the province a "free-fire zone" and subjected it to frequent bombing missions and artillery attacks. By the end of 1967, most of the dwellings in the province had been destroyed and nearly 140,000 civilians left homeless. Not surprisingly, the native population of Quang Ngai Province distrusted Americans. Children hissed at soldiers. Adults kept quiet.
Two hours of instruction on the rights of prisoners and a wallet-sized card "The Enemy is in Your Hands" seemed to have little impact on American soldiers fighting in Quang Ngai. Military leaders encouraged and rewarded kills in an effort to produce impressive body counts that could be reported to Saigon as an indication of progress. GIs joked that "anything that's dead and isn't white is a VC" for body count purposes. Angered by a local population that said nothing about the VC's whereabouts, soldiers took to calling natives "gooks."
Charlie Company came to Viet Nam in December, 1967. It located in Quang Ngai Province in January, 1968, as one of the three companies in Task Force Barker, an ad hoc unit headed by Lt. Col. Frank Barker, Jr. Its mission was to pressure the VC in an area of the province known as "Pinkville." Charlie Company's commanding officer was Ernest Medina, a thirty-three-year-old Mexican-American from New Mexico who was popular with his soldiers. One of his platoon leaders was twenty-four-year-old William Calley. Charlie Company soldiers expressed amazement that Calley was thought by anyone to be officer material. One described Calley as"a kid trying to play war." [LINK TO CHAIN OF COMMAND DIAGRAM] Calley's utter lack of respect for the indigenous population was apparent to all in the company. According to one soldier, "if they wanted to do something wrong, it was alright with Calley." The soldiers of Charlie Company, like most combat soldiers in Viet Nam, scored low on military exams. Few combat soldiers had education beyond high school.
Seymour Hersh wrote that by March of 1968 "many in the company had given in to an easy pattern of violence." Soldiers systematically beat unarmed civilians. Some civilians were murdered. Whole villages were burned. Wells were poisoned. Rapes were common.
On March 14, a small squad from "C" Company ran into a booby trap, killing a popular sergeant, blinding one GI and wounding several others. The following evening, when a funeral service was held for the killed sergeant, soldiers had revenge on their mind. After the service, Captain Medina rose to give the soldiers a pep talk and discuss the next morning's mission. Medina told them that the VC's crack 48th Battalion was in the vicinity of a hamlet known as My Lai 4, which would be the target of a large-scale assault by the company. The soldiers' mission would be to engage the 48th Battalion and to destroy the village of My Lai. By 7 a.m., Medina said, the women and children would be out of the hamlet and all they could expect to encounter would be the enemy. The soldiers were to explode brick homes, set fire to thatch homes, shoot livestock, poison wells, and destroy the enemy. The seventy-five or so American soldiers would be supported in their assault by gunship pilots.
Medina later said that his objective that night was to "fire them up and get them ready to go in there; I did not give any instructions as to what to do with women and children in the village." Although some soldiers agreed with that recollection of Medina's, others clearly thought that he had ordered them to kill every person in My Lai 4. Perhaps his orders were intentionally vague. What seems likely is that Medina intentionally gave the impression that everyone in My Lai would be their enemy.
At 7:22 a.m. on March 16, nine helicopters lifted off for the flight to My Lai 4. By the time the helicopters carrying members of Charlie Company landed in a rice paddy about 140 yards south of My Lai, the area had been peppered with small arms fire from assault helicopters. Whatever VC might have been in the vicinity of My Lai had most likely left by the time the first soldiers climbed out of their helicopters. The assault plan called for Lt. Calley's first platoon and Lt. Stephen Brooks' second platoon to sweep into the village, while a third platoon, Medina, and the headquarters unit would be held in reserve and follow the first two platoons in after the area was more-or-less secured. Above the ground, the action would be monitored at the 1,000-foot level by Lt. Col. Barker and at the 2,500-foot level by Oran Henderson, commander of the 11th Brigade, both flying counterclockwise around the battle scene in helicopters.
My Lai village had about 700 residents. They lived in either red-brick homes or thatch-covered huts. A deep drainage ditch marked the eastern boundary of the village. Directly south of the residential area was an open plaza area used for holding village meetings. To the north and west of the village was dense foliage [MAP].
By 8 a.m., Calley's platoon had crossed the plaza on the town's southern edge and entered the village. They encountered families cooking rice in front of their homes. The men began their usual search-and-destroy task of pulling people from homes, interrogating them, and searching for VC. Soon the killing began. The first victim was a man stabbed in the back with a bayonet. Then a middle-aged man was picked up, thrown down a well, and a grenade lobbed in after him. A group of fifteen to twenty mostly older women were gathered around a temple, kneeling and praying. They were all executed with shots to the back of their heads. Eighty or so villagers were taken from their homes and herded to the plaza area. As many cried "No VC! No VC!", Calley told soldier Paul Meadlo, "You know what I want you to do with them". When Calley returned ten minutes later and found the Vietnamese still gathered in the plaza he reportedly said to Meadlo, "Haven't you got rid of them yet? I want them dead. Waste them." Meadlo and Calley began firing into the group from a distance of ten to fifteen feet. The few that survived did so because they were covered by the bodies of those less fortunate.
What Captain Medina knew of these war crimes is not certain. It was a chaotic operation. Gary Garfolo said, "I could hear shooting all the time. Medina was running back and forth everywhere. This wasn't no organized deal." Medina would later testify that he didn't enter the village until 10 a.m., after most of the shooting had stopped, and did not personally witness a single civilian being killed. Others put Medina in the village closer to 9 a.m., and close to the scene of many of the murders as they were happening.
As the third platoon moved into My Lai, it was followed by army photographer Ronald Haeberle, there to document what was supposed to be a significant encounter with a crack enemy battalion. Haeberle took many pictures [HAEBERLE PHOTOS]. He said he saw about thirty different GIs kill about 100 civilians. Once Haeberle focused his camera on a young child about five feet away, but before he could get his picture the kid was blown away. He angered some GIs as he tried to photograph them as they fondled the breasts of a fifteen-year-old Vietnamese girl.
An army helicopter piloted by Chief Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson arrived in the My Lai vicinity about 9 a.m. Thompson noticed dead and dying civilians all over the village. Thompson repeatedly saw young boys and girls being shot at point-blank range. Thompson, furious at what he saw, reported the wanton killings to brigade headquarters [THOMPSON'S STORY].
Meanwhile, the rampage below continued. Calley was at the drainage ditch on the eastern edge of the village, where about seventy to eighty old men, women, and children not killed on the spot had been brought. Calley ordered the dozen or so platoon members there to push the people into the ditch, and three or four GIs did. Calley ordered his men to shoot into the ditch. Some refused, others obeyed. One who followed Calley's order was Paul Meadlo, who estimated that he killed about twenty-five civilians. (Later Meadlo was seen, head in hands, crying.) Calley joined in the massacre. At one point, a two-year-old child who somehow survived the gunfire began running towards the hamlet. Calley grabbed the child, threw him back in the ditch, then shot him.
Hugh Thompson, by now almost frantic, saw bodies in the ditch, including a few people who were still alive. He landed his helicopter and told Calley to hold his men there while he evacuated the civilians. Thompson told his helicopter crew chief to "open up on the Americans" if they fired at the civilians. He put himself between Calley's men and the Vietnamese. When a rescue helicopter landed, Thompson had the nine civilians, including five children, flown to the nearest army hospital. Later, Thompson was to land again and rescue a baby still clinging to her dead mother.
By 11 a.m., when Medina called for a lunch break, the killing was nearly over. By noon, "My Lai was no more": its buildings were destroyed and its people dead or dying. Soldiers later said they didn't remember seeing "one military-age male in the entire place". By night, the VC had returned to bury the dead. What few villagers survived and weren't already communists, became communists. Twenty months later army investigators would discover three mass graves containing the bodies of about 500 villagers.
II.
The cover-up of the My Lai massacre began almost as soon as the killing ended. Official army reports of the operation proclaimed a great victory: 128 enemy dead, only one American casualty (one soldier intentionally shot himself in the foot). The army knew better. Hugh Thompson had filed a complaint, alleging numerous war crimes involving murders of civilians. According to one of Thompson's crew members, "Thompson was so pissed he wanted to turn in his wings". An order issued by Major Calhoun to Captain Medina to return to My Lai to do a body count was countermanded by Major General Samuel Koster, who asked Medina how many civilians has been killed. "Twenty to twenty-eight," was his answer. The next day Colonel Henderson informed Medina that an informal investigation of the My Lai incident was underway-- and most likely gave the Captain "a good ass-chewing" as well. Henderson interviewed a number of GIs, then pronounced himself "satisfied" by their answers. No attempt was made to interview surviving Vietnamese. In late April, Henderson submitted a written report indicating that about twenty civilians had been inadvertently killed in My Lai. Meanwhile, Michael Bernhart, a Charlie Company GI severely troubled by what he witnessed at My Lai discussed with other GIs his plan to write a letter about the incident to his congressman. Medina, after learning of Bernhart's intentions, confronted him and told him how unwise such an action, in his opinion, would be.
If not for the determined efforts of a twenty-two-year-old ex-GI from Phoenix, Ronald Ridenhour, what happened on March 16, 1968 at My Lai 4 may never have come to the attention of the American people. Ridenhour served in a reconnaissance unit in Duc Pho, where he heard five eyewitness accounts of the My Lai massacre. He began his own investigation, traveling to Americal headquarters to confirm that Charlie Company had in fact been in My Lai on the date reported by his witnesses. Ridenhour was shocked by what he learned [RIDENHOUR'S STORY]. When he was discharged in December, 1968, Ridenhour said "I wanted to get those people. I wanted to reveal what they did. My God, when I first came home, I would tell my friends about this and cry-literally cry." In March, 1969, Ridenhour composed a letter detailing what he had heard about the My Lai massacre[LINK TO LETTER]and sent it to President Nixon, the Pentagon, the State Department, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and numerous members of Congress. Most recipients simply ignored the letter, but a few, most notably Representative Morris Udall, aggressively pushed for a full investigation of Ridenhour's allegations.
By late April, General Westmoreland, Army Chief of Staff, had turned the case over to the Inspector General for investigation. Over the next few months, dozens of witnesses were interviewed. It became apparent to all connected with the investigation that war crimes had been committed. In June, 1969, William Calley was flown back from Viet Nam to appear in a line-up for identification by Hugh Thompson. By August, the matter was in the hands of the army's Criminal Investigation Division for a determination as to whether criminal charges should be filed against Calley and other massacre participants. On September 5, formal charges, included six specifications of premeditated murder, were filed against Calley.
Calley hired as his attorney George Latimer, a Salt Lake City lawyer with considerable military experience, having served on the Military Court of Appeals. Latimer pronounced himself impressed with Calley. "You couldn't find a nicer boy," he said, adding that if Calley was guilty of anything it was only following orders "a bit too diligently."
Meanwhile, the issue of the My Lai massacre had gotten the attention of President Nixon. Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird briefed Nixon at his San Clemente retreat. The White House proceeded with caution, sensing the potential of the incident to embarrass the military and undermine the war effort. The President characterized what happened at My Lai as an unfortunate aberration, as "an isolated incident."
In November, 1969, the American public began to learn the details of what happened at My Lai 4. The massacre was the cover story in both Time and Newsweek. CBS ran a Mike Wallace interview with Paul Meadlo. Seymour Hersh published in depth accounts based on his own extensive interviews. Life magazine published Haeberle's graphic photographs.
Reaction to the reports of the massacre varied. Some politicians, such as House Armed Services Subcommittee Chair L. Mendel Rivers maintained that there was no massacre and that reports to the contrary were merely attempts to build opposition to the Viet Nam war. Others called for an open, independent inquiry. The Administration took a middle course, deciding on a closed-door investigation by the Pentagon, headed by William Peers, a blunt three-star general.
For four months the Peers Panel interviewed 398 witnesses, ranging from General Koster to the GIs of Charlie Company. Over 20,000 pages of testimony were taken. The Peers Report criticized the actions of both officers and enlisted men. The report recommended action against dozens of men for rape, murder, or participation in the cover-up.
III.
The Army's Criminal Investigation Division continued its separate investigation. Most of the enlisted men who committed war crimes were no longer members of the military, and thus immune from prosecution by court-martial. A 1955 Supreme Court decision, Toth vs Quarles, held that military courts cannot try former members of the armed services "no matter how intimate the connection between the offense and the concerns of military discipline." Decisions were made to prosecute a total of twenty-five officers and enlisted men, including General Koster, Colonel Oran Henderson, Captain Medina. In the end, however, only few would be tried and only one, William Calley, would be found guilty. The top officer charged, General Samuel Koster, who failed to report known civilian casualties and conducted a clearly inadequate investigation was, according to General Peers, the beneficiary of a whitewash, having charges against him dropped and receiving only a letter of censure and reduction in rank. Colonel Henderson was found not guilty on all charges after a trial by court martial. Peers again expressed his disapproval, writing "I cannot agree with the verdict. If his actions are judged as acceptable standards for an officer in his position, the Army is indeed in deep trouble."
Captain Ernest Medina faced charges of murdering 102 Vienamese civilians. The charges were based on the prosecution's theory of command responsibility: Medina, as the officer in charge of Charlie Company should be accountable for the actions of his men. If Medina knew that a massacre was taking place and did nothing to stop it, he should be found guilty of murder. (Medina was originally charged also with dereliction of duty for participating in the coverup, but the offense was dropped because the statute of limitations had run.) Medina was subjected to a lie-detector test which tended to show he responded truthfully when he said that he did not intentionally suggest to his men that they kill unarmed civilians. The same test, however, tended to to show that his contention that he first heard of the killing of unarmed civilians about 10 to 10:30 A.M. was not truthful, and that he in fact knew non-combattants were being killed sometime between 8 A.M. and 9 A.M., when there would still have been time to prevent many civilian deaths. The prosecution, led by Major William Eckhardt, was unable, however, to get the damaging lie-detector evidence admitted. Medina's lawyer, flamboyant defense attorney F. Lee Bailey, conducted a highly successful defense, forcing the prosecution to drop key witnesses and keeping damaging evidence, such as Ronald Haeberle's photographs, from the jury. After fifty-seven minutes of deliberation, the jury acquitted Medina on all charges. (Months later, when a perjury prosecution was no longer possible, Medina admitted that he had suppressed evidence and lied to the brigade commander about the number of civilians killed.)
The strongest government case was that against Lt. William Calley. On November 12, 1970, in a small courthouse in Fort Benning, Georgia, young Prosecutor Aubrey Daniel stood to deliver his opening statement: "I want you to know My Lai 4. I will try to put you there." Captain Daniel told the jury of six military officers the shocking story of Calley's role in My Lai's tragedy: his machine-gunning of people in the plaza area south of the hamlet; his orders to men to execute men, women, and children in the eastern drainage ditch; his butt-stroking with his rifle of an old man; his grabbing of a small child and his throwing of the child into the ditch, then shooting him at point-blank range. Daniel told the jury that at the close of evidence he would ask them to "in the name of justice" convict the accused of all charges.
Daniel built the prosecution's case methodically. For days, the grisly evidence accumulated without a single witness directly placing Calley at the scene of a shooting. One of the early witnesses was Ronald Haeberle, the army photographer whose pictures brought home the horror of My Lai [TESTIMONY OF HAEBERLE]. Another was Hugh Thompson, My Lai's hero. Defense attorney Latimer's handling on cross of Haeberle, Thompson, and other witnesses led many courtroom observers to conclude that his glowing reputation was undeserved. His questioning of Haeberle, whose credibility was largely irrelevant, was pointless. His attempt to question Thompson's heroism "failed utterly," according to Richard Hammer, author of The Court-Martial of Lt. Calley.
In the second week of the trial Daniel began to call his more incriminating witnesses. Robert Maples, a machine gunner in the first platoon, testified that he saw Calley near the eastern drainage ditch, firing at the people below. Maples said that Calley asked him to use his machine gun on the Vietnamese in the ditch, but that he refused [TESTIMONY OF MAPLES]. Dennis Conti provided equally damning evidence. Conti testified that he was ordered to round up people, mostly women and children, and bring them back to Calley on the trail south of the hamlet. Calley, Conti said, told us to make them "squat down and bunch up so they couldn't get up and run." Minutes later Calley and Paul Meadlo "fired directly into the people. There were burst and shots for two minutes. The people screamed and yelled and fell." Conti said that Meadlo "broke down" and began crying [TESTIMONY OF CONTI].
The prosecution's final witness was its most anticipated witness. Paul Meadlo had been promised immunity from military prosecution in return for his testimony in the Calley case, but when he was called earlier in the trial, Meadlo had refused to answer questions about March 16, 1968, claiming his fifth amendment right not to incriminate himself. Daniel called Meadlo to the stand for a second time, and the ex-GI, who had lost a foot to a mine shortly after the massacre, limped to the stand in his green short-sleeve shirt and green pants. Judge Kennedy warned Meadlo that if he refused to answer questions, two U. S. marshals would take him into custody.
Meadlo said he would testify. He told the jury that Calley had left him with a large group of mostly women and children south of the hamlet saying, "You know what to do with them, Meadlo." Meadlo thought Calley meant he should guard the people, which he did. Meadlo told the jury what happened when Calley returned a few minutes later:
He said, "How come they're not dead?" I said, I didn't know we were supposed to kill them." He said, I want them
dead." He backed off twenty or thirty feet and started shooting into the people -- the Viet Cong -- shooting automatic. He was
beside me. He burned four or five magazines. I burned off a few, about three. I helped shoot ‘em.
Q: What were the people doing after you shot them?
A: They were lying down.
Q: Why were they lying down?
A: They was mortally wounded.
Q: How were you feeling at that time?
A: I was mortally upset, scared, because of the briefing we had the day before.
Q: Were you crying?
A: I imagine I was....
Daniel then asked Meadlo about the massacre at the eastern drainage ditch, and in the same almost emotionless voice, Meadlo recounted the story, telling the jury that Calley fired from 250 to 300 bullets into the ditch. One exchange was remarkable:
Q: What were the children in the ditch doing?
A: I don't know.
Q: Were the babies in their mother's arms?
A: I guess so.
Q: And the babies moved to attack?
A: I expected at any moment they were about to make a counterbalance.
Q: Had they made any move to attack?
A: No.
At the end of Meadlo's testimony, Aubrey Daniel rested the for the prosecution[MEADLO'S TESTIMONY].
The defense strategy had two main thrusts. One was to suggest that the stress of combat, the fear of being in an area thought to be thick with the enemy, sufficiently impaired Calley's thinking that he should not be found guilty of premeditated murder for his killing of civilians. Latimer relied on New York psychiatrist Albert LaVerne to advance this defense argument [LAVERNE TESTIMONY]. The second argument of the defense was that Calley was merely following orders: that Captain Ernest Medina had ordered that civilians found in My Lai 4 be killed and was the real villain in the tragedy.
On February 23, 1971, William Calley took the stand. He told the jury he couldn't remember a single army class on the Geneva Convention, but that he did know he could be court-martialed for refusing to obey an order. He testified that Medina had said the night before that there would be no civilians in My Lai, only the enemy. He said that while he was in the village, Medina called and asked why he hadn't "wasted" the civilians yet. He admitted to firing into a ditch full of Vietnamese, but claimed that others were already firing into the ditch when he arrived. Calley said, "I felt then--and I still do-- that I acted as directed, I carried out my orders, and I did not feel wrong in doing so" [CALLEY TESTIMONY].
Ernest Medina was called as a witness of the court. Medina directly contradicted Calley's testimony. Medina said he was asked at the briefing on March 15 whether "we kill women and children," and-- looking straight at Calley behind the defense table--he said to the GIs "No, you do not kill women and children...Use common sense." At the close of his testimony, Medina saluted Judge Kennedy, then marched past Calley's table without glancing at him [MEDINA TESTIMONY].
It was time for summations. George Latimer for the defense argued that Medina was lying about not giving the order to kill civilians, that Medina knew perfectly well what was going on in the village, and now he and the army were trying to make Calley a scapegoat[LATIMER SUMMATION]. Aubrey Daniel for the prosecution asked the jury who will speak for the children of My Lai. He pointed out that Calley as a U. S. officer took an oath not to kill innocent women and children, and told the jury it is "the conscience of the United States Army"[DANIEL SUMMATION].
After thirteen days of deliberations, the longest in U. S. court-martial history, the jury returned its verdict: guilty of premeditated murder on all specifications. After hearing pleas on the issue of punishment, jury head Colonel Clifford Ford pronounced Calley's sentence: "To be confined at hard labor for the length of your natural life; to be dismissed from the service; to forfeit all pay and allowances."
IV.
Opinion polls showed that the public overwhelmingly disapproved of the verdict in the Calley case [OPINION POLLS]. President Nixon ordered Calley removed from the stockade and placed under house arrest. He announced that he would review the whole decision. Nixon's action prompted Aubrey Daniel to write a long and angry letter in which he told the President that "the greatest tragedy of all will be if political expediency dictates the compromise of such a fundamental moral principle as the inherent unlawfulness of the murder of innocent persons" [AUBREY LETTER]. On November 9, 1974, the Secretary of the Army announced that William Calley would be paroled. In 1976, Calley married. He now works in the jewelry store of his father-in-law in Columbus, Georgia.
My Lai mattered. Two weeks after the Calley verdict was announced, the Harris Poll reported for the first time that a majority of Americans opposed the war in Viet Nam. The My Lai episode caused the military to re-evaluate its training with respect to the handling of noncombatants. Commanders sent troops in the Desert Storm operation into battle with the words, "No My Lais-- you hear?"
Are the Republicans manipulating polls? Do they believe that polling numbers influence the public? Is this why we see Bush ahead in the polls?
MINNEAPOLIS - The Star Tribune has declined to suspend its Minnesota Poll at the request of State Republican Party Chairman Ron Eibensteiner, who said the poll is "fatally flawed."
On Friday, Eibensteiner called on the newspaper to suspend the poll until after the Nov. 2 election.
Last week, Eibensteiner called for the Star Tribune to fire its pollster for what he said was years of overrepresenting Democrats and underrepresenting Republicans in the poll. Days later, a new Minnesota Poll of likely voters showed Democratic presidential challenger Sen. John Kerry leading President Bush among likely voters, 50 percent to 41 percent.
Since that poll, three others have shown a much smaller gap. A CNN-Gallup Poll released Monday shows the race as a tie, while a Minnesota Public Radio-Pioneer Press poll produced by the Mason Dixon research firm shows Bush ahead by two percentage points, 46 to 44.
Strategic Vision, a Republican-oriented national poll of likely voters, released the latest poll, showing Kerry ahead in Minnesota by three percentage points, 48 to 45.
Eibensteiner said the other polls "are one more piece of damning evidence showing that the Minnesota Poll is flawed and failing the voters of Minnesota."
The newspaper defended its poll.
"Our polling methodology is public and well-established, and the paper will continue to poll, report our results and publish other polls," Star Tribune Editor Anders Gyllenhaal said.
Last week, Gyllenhaal called the GOP's demand to fire its longtime pollster, Rob Daves, a personal attack that was "shameful and misdirected."
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Information from: Star Tribune, http:// WWW.STARTRIBUNE.COM
I strongle suggest simplifying the messages. One line - easy to remenber. Hammer it! Hammer it! Hammer it!
BUSH = FAILURE
over and over and over and over.
Bush is doing this and it's working. Bush's messages are:
Kerry = flip-flop
Kerry will raise your taxes
Kerry is too weak to deal with terrorists
To counter that - these messages:
Bush = FAILURE (failed president)
Bush is dishonest (Bush is lying - stealing)
America is getting (will continue to get) worse under Bush
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The kerry campaign is making arguments that are too complex for the average stupid disinterested voter. The average voter has no idea who Haliburton is. They don't know the difference between voting for war authorization and voting to go to war. I get it - but I am not the average voter. It's time to start appealing to STUPID PEOPLE because Bush relates very well to stupid people. And stupid people are the ones who are going to determine the outcome of this election.
Please pass this on to the strategy folks in the Kerry campaign and to all Democrats.
Having said that - I'm glad I'm not the one running. ;)
Bush will bring back the draft. If you are skilled and between the ages of 18 and 34 you get to go to Iraq to die for Bush's war.
Print this out and post it whereever youth can be found!
Selective Service eyes women's draft
The proposal would also require registration of critical skills
By ERIC ROSENBERG
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON -- The chief of the Selective Service System has proposed registering women for the military draft and requiring that young Americans regularly inform the government about whether they have training in niche specialties needed in the armed services.
The proposal, which the agency's acting Director Lewis Brodsky presented to senior Pentagon officials just before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, also seeks to extend the age of draft registration to 34 years old, up from 25.
The Selective Service System plan, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, highlights the extent to which agency officials have planned for an expanded military draft in case the administration and Congress would authorize one in the future.
"In line with today's needs, the Selective Service System's structure, programs and activities should be re-engineered toward maintaining a national inventory of American men and, for the first time, women, ages 18 through 34, with an added focus on identifying individuals with critical skills," the agency said in a Feb. 11, 2003, proposal presented to senior Pentagon officials.
Brodsky and Richard Flahavan, the agency's director of public and congressional affairs, reviewed the six-page proposal with Pentagon officials responsible for personnel issues. They included Charles Abell, principal deputy undersecretary for personnel and readiness, and William Carr, deputy undersecretary for military personnel policy.
The agency officials acknowledged that they would have "to market the concept" of a female draft to Congress, which ultimately would have to authorize such a step.
Dan Amon, a spokesman for the Selective Service System, based in Arlington, Va., said that the Pentagon has taken no action on the proposal to expand draft registration.
"These ideas were only being floated for Department of Defense consideration," Amon said. He described the proposal as "food for thought" for contingency planning.
Navy Lt. Cmdr. Jane Campbell, a spokeswoman for the Defense Department, said the Pentagon "has not agreed to, nor even suggested, a change to Selective Service's current missions."
Nonetheless, Flahavan said the agency has begun designing procedures for a targeted registration and draft of people with computer and language skills, in case military officials and Congress authorize it.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, say they oppose a revival of the military draft, last used in 1973 as the American commitment in Vietnam waned, beginning the era of the all-volunteer force.
Mandatory registration for the draft was suspended in 1975 but was resumed in 1980 by President Carter after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. About 13.5 million men, ages 18 to 25, currently are registered with the Selective Service.
"I don't know anyone in the executive branch of the government who believes that it would be appropriate or necessary to reinstitute the draft," Rumsfeld said last month.
At present, the Selective Service is authorized to register only young men and they are not required to inform the government about any professional skills. Separately, the agency has in place a special registration system to draft health care personnel in more than 60 specialties into the military if necessary in a crisis.
Some of the skill areas where the armed forces are facing "critical shortages" include linguists and computer specialists, the agency said. Americans would then be required to regularly update the agency on their skills until they reach age 35.
Individuals proficient in more than one critical skill would list the skill in which they have the greatest degree of competency.
Letter to the Editor
Vice President Cheney said last week that America will be move vulnerable to attack if we make the wrong choice this election. It's a statement I agree with - but not in the way Cheney thinks.
We were attached by Osama bin Laden who killed 3000 Americans on 9-11. In response - Bush and Cheney decided to attack Iraq that had nothing to do with it and let bin Laden get away. Now they talk about Osama bin Laden as if he doesn't matter.
And - it doesn't help thatBush's family are business partners with Osama bin Laden's family.
So - we have a choice between staying with the leaders who are going after the wrong enemy and someone who will go after bin Laden. The choice is clear. America will be safer with John Kerry as president.
hmmmmmm - is this Republicans trying to pose as compasionate conservatives? Also makes you wonder if anyone voted against this and why.
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially illegal in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill barring necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.
The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied by the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.
"Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of instances over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill concerning it," said Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law who has studied California cases involving allegations of necrophilia.
"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first place, prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.
The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case of a man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl in Southern California, stalled last year in a legislative committee.
Lawmakers revived the bill this year after an unsuccessful prosecution of a man found in a San Francisco funeral home drunk and passed out on top of an elderly woman's corpse.
The new law makes sex with a corpse a felony punishable by up to eight years in prison.
Letter to the Editor
It's been 3 years since Osama bin Laden destroyed the World Trade Towers and killed 3000 people. Bush said that bin Laden was wanted "Dead or Alive" he was going to "Smoke him out". But now Bush says bin Laden has been "marginalized" and Bush says. "I truly am not that concerned about him." Bush has let him get away with murdering 3000 people and is no longer pursuing him. Yet America remains in terror of being attacked by bin Laden again.
Seems to me that if Bush were serious about terrorism - he'd be going after the terrorists. We need a president who knows who the real enemy is and will go after those who really did attack us. This is the third anniversary of both a tragedy and Bush's continuing failure to deal with it.
Letter to the Editor
Arnold Schwarzenegger told the Republican convention "I saw tanks in the streets. I saw communism with my own eyes." and that as a child and that he left a "Socialist" country when he moved away in 1968.
The problem is that while what Arnold said was moving - the problem with it, like most Republican speeches, is that it just wasn't true. When Arnold was in Austria, the area of Styria and the neighboring province of Carinthia belonged to the British zone. The Soviets left Styria in July 1945.
Arnold also said: "As a kid, I saw the Socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left". But when Arnold left in 1968, Austria was run by a conservative government headed by People's Party Chancellor Josef Klaus, a staunch Roman Catholic and a sharp critic of both the Socialists and the Communists ruling in countries across the Iron Curtain.
Arnold is trying to rewrite reality for the purpose of supporting a president who stands for the opposite of everything Arnold believes in. It was clear from the beginning that Arnold didn't want to support Bush but was pressured into it. There's a name Arnold gives people like him who can be pressured into lying. He calls them girly men!
Riggs Affair Sparks 'Suspicious Activity' Alert on Dole
WASHINGTON -- The Riggs National Bank scandal has led to unexpected fallout, including "suspicious activity reports" on former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole and former Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci, Friday's Wall Street Journal reported.
As often as once a week, Mr. Dole's assistant walks around the corner from his Pennsylvania Avenue office in Washington to a branch of Riggs Bank, where she withdraws as much as $8,000 in cash. For walking-around money, Mr. Dole keeps a wad of $100 bills in the breast pocket of his shirt. "I probably use a credit card four or five times a year," Mr. Dole confesses. "I don't even have a wallet."
Mr. Dole's affinity for cash was of no concern to anyone until recently, when federal regulators pawing through the books of scandal-tarred Riggs spotted the large withdrawals and called them to the attention of management. In short order, the bank filed "suspicious activity reports" on Mr. Dole and another prominent Washington figure, Mr. Carlucci, questioning whether the two men might have violated federal laws against money laundering.
The two aren't actually suspected by Riggs of wrongdoing, people familiar with the filings say. But the bank, a unit of Riggs National Corp. (RIGS), felt it had no choice but to file these reports because of the strict wording of the Bank Secrecy Act.
The reports are the latest strange fallout from the Riggs affair, which has reverberated through Washington in unexpected ways since the bank got into trouble with regulators this year for overlooking signs of suspicious activity by Saudi diplomats and foreign despots. The scandal has provoked a minor diplomatic crisis for the State and Treasury departments as Riggs, which has long had a lock on the diplomatic market in Washington, starts to shed all of its embassy accounts to get out from under a regulatory cloud and sell itself to PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (PNC).
To some observers, these headaches suggest flaws in the government's system for monitoring suspicious activity, which generates more than 200,000 filings annually -- many of which go unread. Many banks dislike the process for suspicious activity reports, or SARs, and avoid customers who may force the banks to get more involved with it even if the customers aren't suspicious characters.
The case of Messrs. Dole and Carlucci illustrates what can happen, as Riggs had to file the reports whether it wanted to or not.
Wall Street Journal Staff Reporter Glenn R. Simpson contributed to this report.
So - after all the chest beating and chalenging Chris Mathews to a duel - what's the story on his military record? Anyone know?
Bush Administration Appoints Two Veterans in Anti-Kerry Ads to VA Advisory Panel
WASHINGTON Sept. 3, 2004 — Two former Vietnam prisoners of war who appear in ads attacking Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry were appointed by the Bush administration to a panel advising the Department of Veterans Affairs.
The former POWs in the ad, Kenneth Cordier and Paul Galanti, serve on the VA's 12-member Former POW Advisory Committee. VA Secretary Anthony Principi appointed Cordier in 2002 and Galanti in 2003.
Cordier said the VA panel has nothing to do with the Bush campaign or the anti-Kerry group. "It's totally apolitical, and we meet twice a year to bring to the secretary's attention problems from around the country in VA hospitals," he said.
Cordier and Galanti appear in an anti-Kerry ad saying their Vietnamese captors used news of anti-war protests, such as ones Kerry organized, to taunt the prisoners. Cordier also was a member of a Bush campaign veterans' committee but quit earlier this month after that role was revealed.
VA spokesman Phil Budahn said Principi did not know about or encourage the veterans' appearance in the anti-Kerry ad. Budahn said federal regulations bar advisory committee members from engaging in political activity while performing their committee duties, but there are no other restrictions on their activities when not working on committee business.
Kerry has labeled the group running the ads, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a front for the Bush campaign. Kerry's campaign complained to the Federal Election Commission that the veterans' group was illegally coordinating its attacks with the Bush campaign.
More than $100,000 of the group's initial funding came from Houston-area homebuilder Bob J. Perry, a longtime donor to Bush and other Texas Republicans. A Bush campaign lawyer also advised the Swift boat group and was dropped from the campaign staff after his role became public.
Bush and his campaign have denied any coordination with Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
Cordier said he got involved with the group because of his continuing outrage over anti-Vietnam war activists like Kerry. He said he got in touch with one of its leaders, John O'Neill, who later commanded the same Swift boat Kerry had overseen.
Cordier said he doesn't remember his Vietnamese captors specifically mentioning Kerry but he does remember them playing a tape of an address by anti-war activist Jane Fonda.
Cordier and Galanti are longtime friends and prominent former Vietnam POWs with long-standing Republican ties. Cordier said he suggested Galanti contact O'Neill.
Galanti coordinated Arizona Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign in Virginia four years ago and was a member of the same VA advisory panel when Bush's father was president. Cordier gave $2,000 to Texas Republicans in 2000 and 2001.
The anti-Kerry group's ads have accused Kerry of lying to get some of the five medals he won as a Swift boat commander in Vietnam.
Navy documents and other servicemen who witnessed the incidents contradict the group's claims, and the group has not offered any documentary proof of its claims that Kerry lied about his medals. Kerry himself has given differing accounts of some incidents, however, and his past claim to have been in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 is not substantiated by any documents so far.
Navy records also show most of the anti-Kerry group's members were not in Vietnam at the same time as Kerry. The group has not released a membership list but did criticize Kerry in a May letter signed by 238 members.
Only 101 names on the letter match names of officers or enlisted men on the rolls of Kerry's units in Vietnam when he was there, from November 1968 through March 1969.
Van Odell, an enlisted man in Kerry's unit and a member of the group, said Swift Boat Veterans for Truth never claimed to be exclusively made up of veterans who served with Kerry. Finding such vets is difficult because Kerry was only in Vietnam for about four months, Odell said.
"It's hard to be there when he was," Odell said. "He was in and out so fast."
Before volunteering for Swift boat duty on Vietnam's rivers, Kerry served about a year on a Navy frigate offshore in the Gulf of Tonkin.
At least 30 men on the list, including one who appears in an anti-Kerry ad, served in Kerry's former Swift boat unit a year after Kerry left Vietnam, the records show.
Shelton White appears in the group's first ad, which claims it is quoting those who served with Kerry. In the ad, White says "John Kerry betrayed the men and women he served with in Vietnam." Navy records show White served in Kerry's former unit, Coastal Division 11, from November 1969 to March 1970 a full year after Kerry left.
Odell said White was referring to Kerry's anti-war activities after Kerry returned to the United States.
Ahmed Chalabi - code named by the CIA "curveball" continues to live up to his name. First he was the guy who brought Bush a lot of the misinformation he was looking for to justify the war in Iraq. He seemed destined to be Bush's hand picked leader of Iraq but then the relationship fell through and he became a spy for Iran. A warrant was issued for his arrest. Now he's back - as a member of the US controlled Iraqi Parliment.
It turns out that Iraq's self government is partially Bush cornies who we have installed to pretend to be the government of the people so as to create an illusion of democracy under American occupation.
Here's the story.
I think Bush is in for a bigger fight than the Republicans realize. Here it is 30 minutes later and he's taking Bush on big time. Good to hear him bring this back from the GOP fantasy to reality.
Letter to the Editor
GOP conventions have sure changed over the years. There's a lot of things you don't hear about anymore that the Republicans used to at least give lip service to. What you don't hear is the words Balanced Budget anymore. They no longer talk of Paying off the National Debt, Where is the Social Security Lock Box. We are not debating what we are going to do with the surplus like we were 4 years ago. The only new idea he introduced was federal funding of churches.
In spite of all the talk of terrorism and 9-11 - not once did Bush mention the name of Osama bin Laden. That tells me that Bush isn't serious about getting the guy who actually attacked America. We have a president who can't identify the enemy.
He talks about our soldiers confronting terrorists - but the terrorists aren't in Iraq and never were. Our soldiers were sent to fight in the wrong country. All in all - Bush's speech was pretty weak compared to the other speaker like Democrat Zell Miller and the pro-choice liberal Republicans who dominated the GOP convention. If this is a poker game - Bush is playing with an empty hand.
Letter to the Editor
Zell Miller gave a hell of a speech except that it is based on a false set of facts. After all the chest pounding is over, the fact is that America is not safer because we went to war with Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or terrorism. The 9-11 terrorist was Osama bin Laden and he's still free and safe. There were no weapons of mass destruction. We went to war based on a lie and the rest of the world knows it. Bush and Cheney lied and Americans died because we sent our soldiers to attack the wrong enemy.
It takes more than just raw aggression to win the war on terror. You have to have a little wisdom so that when you start a war - you correctly identify the enemy. I too believe that we need to be aggressive on the war on terror - but - let's not waste out military capital by going to war with the wrong guy. We need a president who isn't more loyal to the Saudi Royal Family than he is to the 9-11 survivors. And I find it amazing that a war hero like Kerry has to defend himself for the attacks of draft dodgers over his military record. We need someone who will fight smart and not just fight hard - and Bush is not smart.
This is a funny one. McCain just gave Moore a free plug. Now lots more people will see the movie. You would think the McCain would have at least WATCHED the movie before criticizing it. But Bush sucked him into giving the speech because as dumb as Bush is - he's smarter than McCain. Bush probably said "Sure John - you plug me this time an in 2008 you can be president."
What a sucker - here's the story.
Michael Moore is eating up the abuse he's been getting at the Republican National Convention. The "Fahrenheit 9/11" director is still blowing kisses to Arizona Sen. John McCain, who scorned the anti-Bush crusader as "a disingenuous filmmaker" during his speech Monday night.
"Thank you, John McCain," said Moore, who is covering the convention for USA Today. "The film's doing $120 million right now. When McCain mentions it, I have a chance to do $150 million.
"I felt bad that McCain got set up by the Bush people to comment on a film he hasn't seen," Moore told us. "Anytime McCain wants a screening, I'd be happy to do that because I think he'd like it." (McCain's camp had no immediate comment.)
The Bush White House has denied any connection to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - the group that has been airing factually unsupportable smear ads against Sen. John Kerry's war record. But a new report today shows that one of the key accusers in the smear ads was a lobbyist for a company that recently received a massive federal contract from the Bush administration.
As the Washington Post reports, Rear Admiral William L. Schachte Jr., the man who claims Kerry was not under fire when he received his first Purple Heart, is a top lobbyist for a defense contractor that recently won a $40 million grant from the Bush administration. According to a March 18 legal filing by Schachte's firm, Blank Rome, Schachte was one of the lobbyists working for FastShip's effort to secure federal contracts. On Feb. 2, FastShip announced the Bush administration had awarded it $40 million.
Schachte has other connections to the Bush administration. The Washington Post notes David Norcross, Schachte's colleague in the Washington office of Blank Rome, is chairman of this week's Republican convention in New York. Records show that Schachte gave $1,000 to Bush's 2000 and 2004 campaigns. Additionally, Schachte helped organize veterans' efforts against Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and for Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary.
This is not the first member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth who has been revealed to be connected to the President. The Bush-Cheney campaign's top outside lawyer was forced to resign after he admitted providing legal services to the veterans group. The Bush-Cheney campaign's veterans adviser was also featured in one of the smear ads.
Letter to the Editor
Arnold Schwarzenegger gave a good sounding speech but he seems to be talking about a different reality than the one I remember. He says that we have a strong economy now in spite of the recession we inherited (from Clinton). It reminds me of a sci-fi movie where there's a alternate universe where everything is the opposite of what's happening here. In the reality I remember we had the biggest surplus in the history of the world and now we have the biggest deficit in the history of the world.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is doing California a disservice to go to New York and endorse Bush because the economic future of this state and the rest of the country is to turn this economy around and get back to fiscal responsibility and basic sanity. Bush has gutted America and we need to get rid of him before it's to late to turn things around. If Bush is reselected Arnold Schwarzenegger will have to pay a personal price because he's going to have to keep the California economy going while Bush continues to destroy the national economy. I was hoping Arnold Schwarzenegger was going to join the real world - but I was wrong. In spite of his big immigrant story, he's a Republican first and an American second.
Letter to the Editor
It's interesting that the Republican convention is a celebration of all the failures of the Bush administration. Starting with 9-11 a tragedy that happen because Bush was on vacation and ignored all the warnings of the impending attacks.
They praise Bush's response to 9-11 when his response was to sit there and read a story about a goat to school children rather than scramble fighter jets to take out the terrorists.
Then they celebrate the war in Afghanistan which failed to capture Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden is still free - and we are no longer seriously pursuing him.
They call the surrender of our freedom and liberty the "Patriot Act".
Then they celebrate that war in Iraq which had nothing to do with 9-11 and they found no weapons of mass destruction and he is now stuck there clueless as to what to do. They overthrew a dictator who was torturing and raping the people and replaced them with Americans to torture and rape the people.
They will go on to celebrate the Bush economy which went from the biggest surplus in the history of the world to the biggest deficit in the history of the world.
The problem with the Republicans is - they think failure is success and that success is failure. They think that ignorance and failure is a virtue.
OK - I did make it into a letter to the editor.
Letter to the Editor
There seems to be two Republican parties - the republican party that is in power - and the pretty face that they are trotting out at the convention. They are bringing out the liberal Republicans like John McCaim and Arnold Schwarzenegger and Rudy Giuliani who have no power and hiding the people who are really in charge.
The real Republicans are hidden away. We don't see John Ashcroft speaking on Civil Liberties. Where is Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Allen Keyes, the Reverend Sun Mung Moon, and Pat Buchanan? Where are the people behind the Republican energy policy like Kenneth Lay or Prince Vandar? Where is Donald Rumsfield and Paul Wolfowitz to talk about why we should torture prisoners? Where are the noecons like Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich? These are the people who wrote the Republican platform and shape Republican policy.
It looks to me like the Republicans are trying to put lipstick on a pig, showing people what they think they want to see rather than the way they really are. Republicans don't think you'd vote for them if they showed who was really in charge - and on that point I agree with them.
As the Republican convention opens the GOP is hiding it's real face from the public. They trot out McCain and Schwarzenegger to put a pretty face on the pig. The neocons are being pushed into the background as they try to pretend to be reasonable.
If the GOP were honest they would be trotting out the real power behind their party. Ken Lay of Enron would be a keynote speaker. The Reverend Sun Mung Moon would be in prime time. Why not have John Ashcroft talk about civil liberties? Lets get Rummy to talk about why torturing prisioners is a good idea. Prince Vandar should speak about why high oil prices is good for America. Where's Tom Delay? Where's Newt? Where's Jerry Falwell? Where's Pat Robbertson? They should have a representative for Haliburton there - oh wait - they do have one. And - some of Bush's business partners in the bin Laden family.
I need to turn this into a letter to the editor.
This cartoon was true 4 years ago and it's still true today.
I think Kerry should not have pulled the McCain ads exposing McCain as a liar for Bush. McCain want to have it both ways - to compain about what Bush did to him - and to endorse a man who McCain clearly hates so that some day he might get a shot at president. It might be a different stort if McCain weren'ty actively involved in this election - but he is. So - I hope MoveOn picks up those spots and runs them. McCain is as dishonorable as the Swift Boat Vets who are lying about Kerry's record. McCain is the very thing he hates.
Letter to the Editor
We have an election coming up that will determine the future of America. I wish the media would shift the focus of the election coverage to where America is going rather than rehashing Vietnam again. I call on the media to reality test the positions of the candidates and try to talk about where we are going rather than where we have been. Vietnam is history. We should be talking about Iraq and what it's going to take to resolve it.
This New York Times Article exposes the lies of the swift boats for truth organization as well as the ties to the Bust administration.
I don't know where people get this false idea that just because someone was in the millitary that they are somehow more honest than those who weren't. For example - Bob Dole - wounded in World War II has zero integrity. He was so sold out to tobacco that he wouldn't even say that smoking was bad for you when directly asked the question. He said that some people think milk is bad for you.
John McCain - another example of a POW in Veitnam who has sold his soul to the Republican Party. Bush did the same thing to McCain - and in this video McCain says what he really thinks about Buish. But now McCain who soul has been sold will lie and support the man he hates at the expense of the American people.
And then there's Abu Ghraib Prison where our "finest" have acted just like Hitler and are laughing about it. And the military is busy covering up the fact that everyone in the chain of command knew about it and approved it all the way to Bush.
So - I'm not going to listen to this "I'm a war hero and I tell the truth" crap. Not going to live the lie.
President George Bush stood accused of appropriating the Olympic movement for political means last night, amid reports he was planning to visit Athens later this week to watch some sporting events, including a potential gold-medal winning bid by the Iraqi football team.
According to unconfirmed reports in the US, the White House is examining the logistical and security implications of Mr Bush travelling to the Greek capital in time for Saturday's football final. Iraq, whose progress to the semi-finals of the tournament has been one of the games' most captivating stories, will meet Paraguay tomorrow night for a possible place in the finals.
The Greek foreign ministry confirmed last night that the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, will be in Athens for the closing ceremony.
But it is the potential presidential visit to the games that will fuel a dispute between the election campaign of Mr Bush and his running mate, Dick Cheney, and the US Olympic Committee over an advert which links Iraq's and Afghanistan's participation in the games with the US administration's "war on terror".
The advert, which has been broadcast in the US for the past week, begins with footage from the 1972 Olympic games in Munich, during which 13 Israeli athletes were killed by terrorists, and continues with a narrator saying: "Freedom is spreading through the world like a sunrise. And this Olympics there will be two more free nations and two less terrorist regimes."
As the flags of Afghanistan and Iraq flutter in the breeze, it concludes: "With strength, resolve and courage, democracy will triumph over terror and hope will defeat hatred."
Under American copyright law, only the US Olympic Com mittee has the right to use the Olympic insignia, images and trademarks for marketing purposes.
Initially, the committee reportedly called for the advert to be withdrawn, but its spokesman retreated from that last night.
"We have contacted the president's election campaign team and asked them to forward us a copy of the advert. Once we have reviewed it and determined the type and extent of the use of the Olympic name, we will decide how to progress," a spokesman, Darryl Seibel, said.
The committee might want to avoid a confrontation with Mr Bush, but it appears that the objects of his affections have no such qualms.
To the embarrassment of their media handlers in Athens, members of the Iraqi football team have reacted furiously to the news that their efforts are being used to aid Mr Bush's efforts to win a second term in the White House.
The team's coach, Adnan Hamd, told Sports Illustrated magazine: "My problem is not with the American people. They are with what America has done; destroyed everything. The American army has killed so many people in Iraq. What is freedom when I go to the stadium and there are shootings on the road?"
One of the team's midfield players, Ahmad Manajid, accused Mr Bush of "slaughtering" Iraqi men and women. "How will he meet his God having slaughtered so many? I want to defend my home. If a stranger invades America and the people resist, does that make them a terrorist?" he said.
Mark Clark, the spokesman for the Iraqi Olympic squad in Athens, accused journalists of taking advantage of the players. "They are not very sophisticated politically. Whoever posed these questions knew the answers would be negative. It is possible something was lost in translation. The players are entitled to their opinions but we are disappointed," he said.
Mr Bush, not hitherto known as a keen football fan, has made repeated references to the performances of the Iraqi football team in his campaign speeches.
After its unexpected 4-2 victory over Portugal, he told a crowd in Oregon that the fact the team was in Athens was fantastic, adding: "It wouldn't have been free if the United States hadn't acted."
Letter to the Editor
There are two kinds of people in the world, the corporate owners - and the slaves who work for them. Starting Monday the slaves have to work harder and longer for less money because under new federal regulations - we lose our overtime pay. People work hard and need rest, time to spend with our families or relaxing in front of the tube. It used to be that if we had to work extra - then at least we would get time and a half for it. Now that is gone.
The extra pay also had the advantage of creating new jobs. Because companies didn't want to pay a lot of extra money - they would hire more help. But now they don't have to. They can just work the slaves twice as long. We need to move out from under the thumbs of our corporate oppressors who own the Whitehouse and take back the country for working people. Register to vote - and let the revolution begin.
How will you know if the election is fixed and the press is in on the fix? One simple indicator is if the media decides not to do exit polling. The exit polling would be a strong indicator if the election results deviate from the way people voted. So if you hear the media saying that they have decided NOT to do exit polls - then the fix is in.
Past work experience:
* Ran for congress and lost.
* Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
* Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
* Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox .
* With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Accomplishments- Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.
* Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.
Accomplishments as president--
*Either lied or used extremely flawed intelligence against the advice of many of our own militiary, most of our allies, and most of the church leaders of America to waste much of our wealth and many of our soldiers lives on an unwise and unjust war.
* Spent the huge surplus left him by the Clinton administration and bankrupted our nation's treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history (25%).
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
* Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
* In just two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
* Presided over a 45% increase in the loss of home ownership in America since the year 2000.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest against any person in the history of mankind (15 million people). http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
* The most secretive and un-accountable of any administration in U.S. history.
* The wealthiest cabinet ever in U.S. history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice had a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market frauds of any market in any country in the history of the world.
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
* First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
* Made the United States the least, rather than most, respected member of the entire United Nations.
* Refused to allow independent inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
* All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* George W. Bush's biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
* Yet tried to claim that he didn't know Lay that well and that Lay had actually supported the Democratic opponent for Governor, whom he defeated with the help of Lay's money!
*Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
* First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 911, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most detested country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
* With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
* First U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* Changed U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* Led the defeat of changes in U.S. policy that would have denied government contracts to U.S. companies moving their headquarters off-shore, so as to avoid paying income taxes to our country.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations that bid for government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the civil war.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References
* At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
* AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.
* Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
* All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.
* For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)
... which is why Bush picked him ..... You won't see this story in the GOP controlled press.
US Congressman Porter Goss, nominated to be the new director of the CIA, may be talking himself out of the job, according to film-maker Michael Moore.
Moore, who directed the film Fahrenheit 9/11, has released an interview with Mr Goss in which he says he lacks the qualifications for the top spy post.
"I couldn't get a job with CIA today. I am not qualified," Mr Goss told Moore's production company in March.
The White House has dismissed the interview as "ridiculous hearsay".
The interview did not make it into the final edit of the film, which criticises President George W Bush's policy on Iraq.
But following Mr Goss's nomination by the president, Moore has released the transcript and video excerpt on his website.
"I don't have the language skills. I, you know, my language skills were romance languages and stuff. We're looking for Arabists today. I don't have the cultural background probably," Mr Goss says on the video.
"And I certainly don't have the technical skills, as my children remind me every day: 'Dad, you got to get better on your computer.'
"So, the things that you need to have, I don't have."
Michael Moore has this Video of Porter Goss admitting he is unqualified - but you won't see this on the GOP owned network news.
Did you ever wonder why you aren't seeing this on the network news? Don't you think it's news when the person who was just appointed to head the CIA has admitted that he isn't even qualified to work for the CIA?
In a nation where one party owns the press - the GOP - how do you tell what the polls really are. In 2000 all the polls showed Bush ahead of Gore but when the election happened Gore won the popular vote by 500,000 votes.
So - in this "too close to call" race - how do we know what's really happening? Is the media covering up Kerry's lead? I think so. Here's why.
I look at where the battleground is. Remember that the base line is the last election. In all that states that Gore won - Kerry is safely ahead. In all the states that were close - Kerry is ahead in most of them. The rest are too close to call. And in states that Bush won in 2000 - several of them are now battleground states.
So - since technically Gore won the last election and Kerry is doing better - it's looking good. However - there's still those rigged voting machines and other dirty tricks yet to be played. Look for more talk of suspending elections or other power grabs. Kerry also has to get a 5 point lead just to compensate for GOP cheating.
Here's an Electoral Vote site that shows the trend.
Just to clear things up once and for all - Bush did not win Florida. Neither did Gore. Nobody won the election in Florida. What happened is that the Supreme Court in a Supreme act of Treason to the Constitution stopped the election process and without any constitional authority to do so - appointed Bush the president.
We can argue forever who might have won the election had the process not been terminated by the Supreme Court but that doesn't matter. What matters is that we at least tell it the way it is - and the way it is is - Bush didn't win. The Supreme Court stole the election for Bush. And for those of you who claim "Bush would have won anyhow", even if that were true - it doesn't matter. He didn't win. He was not elected president - he was appointed president. Bush did not win Florida.
I keep seeing the press make statements that Bush won Florida by 537 votes when the reality is that he didn't. Bush won by only one vote - 5-4 in the Supreme Court who stopped the election process and substituted it with their own election.
Bush's partner in Iraq Ahmad Chalabi who the CIA called "curveball" and who the Bush administration relied upon in the decision to go to war is wanted for murder and counterfieting money. Is there anyone connected with Bush who isn't a thief?
You might have seen this story in the news lately about the San Francisco man who put up a fake video of a beheading (of himself being beheaded) and the Associated Press took it as real. Since then the respectable press has been trying to cover their asses and distort the truth to make it look like this guy is to blame for the deception rather than their own stupidity.
To that end the newsmedia who has called Ben Vanderford and interviewed him have been changing his story to suit their spin on the issue. But unlike them - I am a real journalist and I have provided them web space to tell their side of the story unedited. That way the real story can come out.
As of this moment the FBI is trying hard to find something they can charge these kids with to save the press the embarrasment of having fucked up the original story. You see - if they can persecute them - then that take attention off their own coverups, their stupidity, and that the media is just a puppet of the Bush administration. At least - this is my spin about what is going on with this story.
As of right now - this is the only link on the internet to their side of the story and as an advocate of free speech I have decided to give them a voice. I got a call early this morning after they got booted off of their previous host and I decided to give them a voice. They have given me the go ahead so it is now up there. And it will remain the official unedited voice of what it is they have to say.
One of the reasons I am doing this is because I have myself been a critic of the original Nick Berg Video which was heavilly edited and raised more questions than it resolved. In the Nick Berg video the man who is killing berg - al-Zarqawi - has two legs where the real al-Zarqawi only has one. The video appears to have been filmed at Abu Ghraib Prison and Berg - who was in American custody is still wearing an American orange uniform. Aparently others had suspected fakery and were curious enough to experiment on how to fake a beheading. These kids produced a video - obviously not intended to actually decieve anyone - because it was the beheading of the producer of the film who was never a captive - and who's name and address appear in the film.
Had Associated Press done ANY research at all they would have know it was fake. Here's a link to the Original video. Can you believe they fell for this?
Letter to the Editor
Alan Keyes will run for US Senate in Illinois where he has never lived. Keyes once called Hillary Clinton a carpetbagger for running for Senate in New York is now doing the same thing.
Amazingly how these Republicans flip flop when it works to their favor.
The Keyes candidacy raises questions about the race factor. Keyes is strongly against affirmative action and any race based preferences. So it makes you wonder why he doesn't have a problem with the GOP picking him because he's black.
Anyhow - I'm predicting that an African American will win this senate seat - and by African American I'm talking about someone who actually comes from Africa.
Letter to the Editor
Bush made an amusing statement today that I think many in America agree with. But what he said probably isn't what he meant. "Our enemies," says Bush "are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
Bush is more right than he thinks. Apparently his idea of winning the "war on terror" is to do more damage to this country than the terrorists are doing - and in that frame of reference he is definitely winning. Clearly no terrorist could have done the kind of damage to America that Bush has done in the four years since he stole the election. Sometimes I think the reason that the terrorists haven't attacked again is because they can just sit back and watch Bush destroy America. If I were a terrorist - I wouldn't want to do anything that would interfere with Bush's reelection.
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With enenies like Bush - who needs friends?
Here's a Kerry vs. Bush Comparison Chart I'm working on. Take a look at it and add more comparisons.
... but I was wrong. I really like Teresa Heinz Kerry a lot. I think she's going to make a great first lady. But the men are going to beat her up for having an opinion. They'll continue to demonize her like they do to Hillary.
I enjoyed Ron Reagan's speech education all of us about the sciense of stem cells. And I liked that it wasn't political. Quite frankly - if he were invited - he would give the same speech at the Republican convention. All they woulfd have to do is invite him. So - it's not that he chose the Democrats - it's that the Democrats chose him and the Republicans rejected him.
Dean and Kenedy were a little boring. I wanted to see Dean do the screch!
I liked Barack Obama a lot. I'd never heard of him before and he's a great speaker. Really helped get the "we are all in this together" theme across.
All in all the Dems are on a roll. Doing much better that I expected.
Tonight we'll hear Ron Reagan - his son - and speaking in behalf of his mother - the former first lady Nancy Reagan - will give up the fetus fetish and endorse stem cell research. Ron Reagan is not endorsing the Democratic Party. He is speaking to people who are reasonable enough to listen to good sense. If the Republicans would listen to good sense he would speak there too.
Thank you. I am honored to share the podium with my Senator, though I think I should be introducing her. I'm proud of her and so grateful to the people of New York that the best public servant in our family is still on the job and grateful to all of you, especially my friends from Arkansas, for the chance you gave us to serve our country in the White House.
I am also honored to share this night with President Carter, who has inspired the world with his work for peace, democracy, and human rights. And with Al Gore, my friend and partner for eight years, who played such a large role in building the prosperity and progress that brought America into the 21st century, who showed incredible grace and patriotism under pressure, and who is the living embodiment that every vote counts -- and must be counted in every state in America.
Tonight I speak as a citizen, returning to the role I have played for most of my life as a foot soldier in the fight for our future, as we nominate a true New England patriot for president. The state that gave us John Adams and John Kennedy has now given us John Kerry, a good man, a great senator, a visionary leader. We are constantly told America is deeply divided. But all Americans value freedom, faith, and family. We all honor the service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world.
We all want good jobs, good schools, health care, safe streets, a clean environment. We all want our children to grow up in a secure America leading the world toward a peaceful future. Our differences are in how we can best achieve these things, in a time of unprecedented change. Therefore, we Democrats will bring the American people a positive campaign, arguing not who's good and who's bad, but what is the best way to build the safe, prosperous world our children deserve.
The 21st century is marked by serious security threats, serious economic challenges, and serious problems like global warming and the AIDS epidemic. But it is also full of enormous opportunities-to create millions of high paying jobs in clean energy, and biotechnology; to restore the manufacturing base and reap the benefits of the global economy through our diversity and our commitment to decent labor and environmental standards everywhere; and to create a world where we can celebrate our religious and racial differences, because our common humanity matters more.
To build that kind of world we must make the right choices; and we must have a president who will lead the way. Democrats and Republicans have very different and honestly held ideas on that choices we should make, rooted in fundamentally different views of how we should meet our common challenges at home and how we should play our role in the world. Democrats want to build an America of shared responsibilities and shared opportunities and more global cooperation, acting alone only when we must.
We think the role of government is to give people the tools and conditions to make the most of their lives. Republicans believe in an America run by the right people, their people, in a world in which we act unilaterally when we can, and cooperate when we have to.
They think the role of government is to concentrate wealth and power in the hands of those who embrace their political, economic, and social views, leaving ordinary citizens to fend for themselves on matters like health care and retirement security. Since most Americans are not that far to the right, they have to portray us Democrats as unacceptable, lacking in strength and values. In other words, they need a divided America. But Americans long to be united. After 9/11, we all wanted to be one nation, strong in the fight against terror. The president had a great opportunity to bring us together under his slogan of compassionate conservatism and to unite the world in common cause against terror.
Instead, he and his congressional allies made a very different choice: to use the moment of unity to push America too far to the right and to walk away from our allies, not only in attacking Iraq before the weapons inspectors finished their jobs, but in withdrawing American support for the Climate Change Treaty, the International Court for war criminals, the ABM treaty, and even the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
Now they are working to develop two new nuclear weapons which they say we might use first. At home, the President and the Republican Congress have made equally fateful choices indeed. For the first time ever when America was on a war footing, there were two huge tax cuts, nearly half of which went to the top one percent. I'm in that group now for the first time in my life.
When I was in office, the Republicans were pretty mean to me. When I left and made money, I became part of the most important group in the world to them. At first I thought I should send them a thank you note -- until I realized they were sending you the bill.
They protected my tax cuts while:
-- Withholding promised funding for the Leave No Child Behind Act, leaving over 2 million children behind
-- Cutting 140,000 unemployed workers out of job training
-- 100,000 working families out of child care assistance
-- 300,000 poor children out of after school programs
-- Raising out of pocket healthcare costs to veterans
-- Weakening or reversing important environmental advances for clean air and the preservation of our forests.
Everyone had to sacrifice except the wealthiest Americans, who wanted to do their part but were asked only to expend the energy necessary to open the envelopes containing our tax cuts. If you agree with these choices, you should vote to return them to the White House and Congress. If not, take a look at John Kerry, John Edwards and the Democrats.
In this year's budget, the White House wants to cut off federal funding for 88,000 uniformed police, including more than 700 on the New York City police force who put their lives on the line on 9/11. As gang violence is rising and we look for terrorists in our midst, Congress and the President are also about to allow the ten-year-old ban on assault weapons to expire. Our crime policy was to put more police on the streets and take assault weapons off the streets. It brought eight years of declining crime and violence. Their policy is the reverse, they're taking police off the streets and putting assault weapons back on the streets. If you agree with their choices, vote to continue them. If not, join John Kerry, John Edwards and the Democrats in making America safer, smarter, and stronger.
On Homeland Security, Democrats tried to double the number of containers at ports and airports checked for Weapons of Mass Destruction. The one billion dollar cost would have been paid for by reducing the tax cut of 200,000 millionaires by five thousand dollars each. Almost all 200,000 of us would have been glad to pay 5,000 dollars to make the nearly 300 million Americans safer-but the measure failed because the White House and the Republican leadership in the House decided my tax cut was more important -- If you agree with that choice, re-elect them. If not, give John Kerry and John Edwards a chance.
These policies have turned the projected 5.8 trillion dollar surplus we left-enough to pay for the baby boomers retirement-into a projected debt of nearly 5 trillion dollars, with a 400 plus billion dollar deficit this year and for years to come. How do they pay for it? First by taking the monthly surplus in Social Security payments and endorsing the checks of working people over to me to cover my tax cut. But it's not enough. They are borrowing the rest from foreign governments, mostly Japan and China. Sure, they're competing with us for good jobs but how can we enforce our trade laws against our bankers? If you think it's good policy to pay for my tax cut with the Social Security checks of working men and women, and borrowed money from China, vote for them. If not, John Kerry's your man.
We Americans must choose for President one of two strong men who both love our country, but who have very different worldviews: Democrats favor shared responsibility, shared opportunity, and more global cooperation. Republicans favor concentrated wealth and power, leaving people to fend for themselves and more unilateral action. I think we're right for two reasons: First, America works better when all people have a chance to live their dreams. Second, we live in an interdependent world in which we can't kill, jail, or occupy all our potential adversaries, so we have to both fight terror and build a world with more partners and fewer terrorists. We tried it their way for twelve years, our way for eight, and then their way for four more.
By the only test that matters, whether people were better off when we finished than when we started, our way works better-it produced over 22 million good jobs, rising incomes, and 100 times as many people moving out of poverty into the middle class. It produced more health care, the largest increase in college aid in 50 years, record home ownership, a cleaner environment, three surpluses in a row, a modernized defense force, strong efforts against terror, and an America respected as a world leader for peace, security and prosperity.
More importantly, we have great new champions in John Kerry and John Edwards. Two good men with wonderful wives-Teresa a generous and wise woman who understands the world we are trying to shape. And Elizabeth, a lawyer and mother who understands the lives we are all trying to lift. Here is what I know about John Kerry. During the Vietnam War, many young men -- including the current president, the vice president and me-could have gone to Vietnam but didn't. John Kerry came from a privileged background and could have avoided it too. Instead he said, send me.
When they sent those swift-boats up the river in Vietnam, and told them their job was to draw hostile fire-to show the American flag and bait the enemy to come out and fight-John Kerry said, send me. When it was time to heal the wounds of war and normalize relations with Vietnam-and to demand an accounting of the POWs and MIAs we lost there-John Kerry said, send me.
When we needed someone to push the cause of inner-city kids struggling to avoid a life of crime, or to bring the benefits of high technology to ordinary Americans, or to clean the environment in a way that creates jobs, or to give small businesses a better chance to make it, John Kerry said send me.
Tonight my friends, I ask you to join me for the next 100 days in telling John Kerry's story and promoting his plans. Let every person in this hall and all across America say to him what he has always said to America: Send Me. The bravery that the men who fought by his side saw in battle I've seen in the political arena. When I was President, John Kerry showed courage and conviction on crime, on welfare reform, on balancing the budget at a time when those priorities were not exactly a way to win a popularity contest in our party.
He took tough positions on tough problems. John Kerry knows who he is and where he's going. He has the experience, the character, the ideas and the values to be a great President. In a time of change he has two other important qualities: his insatiable curiosity to understand the forces shaping our lives, and a willingness to hear the views even of those who disagree with him. Therefore his choices will be full of both conviction and common sense.
He proved that when he picked a tremendous partner in John Edwards. Everybody talks about John Edwards' energy, intellect, and charisma. The important thing is how he has used his talents to improve the lives of people who -- like John himself -- had to work hard for all they've got. He has always championed the cause of people too often left out or left behind. And that's what he'll do as our Vice President.
Their opponents will tell you to be afraid of John Kerry and John Edwards, because they won't stand up to the terrorists -- don't you believe it. Strength and wisdom are not conflicting values -- they go hand in hand. John Kerry has both. His first priority will be keeping America safe. Remember the scripture: Be Not Afraid.
John Kerry and John Edwards, have good ideas:
-- To make this economy work again for middle-class Americans
-- To restore fiscal responsibility
-- To save Social Security; to make healthcare more affordable and college more available
-- To free us from dependence on foreign oil and create new jobs in clean energy
-- To rally the world to win the war on terror and to make more friends and fewer terrorists.
At every turning point in our history we the people have chosen unity over division, heeding our founders' call to America's eternal mission: to form a more perfect union, to widen the circle of opportunity, deepen the reach of freedom, and strengthen the bonds of community.
It happened because we made the right choices. In the early days of the republic, America was at a crossroads much like it is today, deeply divided over whether or not to build a real nation with a national economy, and a national legal system. We chose a more perfect union.
In the Civil War, America was at a crossroads, divided over whether to save the union and end slavery -- we chose a more perfect union. In the 1960s, America was at a crossroads, divided again over civil rights and women's rights. Again, we chose a more perfect union. As I said in 1992, we're all in this together; we have an obligation both to work hard and to help our fellow citizens, both to fight terror and to build a world with more cooperation and less terror. Now again, it is time to choose.
Since we're all in the same boat, let us chose as the captain of our ship a brave good man who knows how to steer a vessel though troubled waters to the calm seas and clear skies of our more perfect union. We know our mission. Let us join as one and say in a loud, clear voice: Send John Kerry.
... after Clinton giving the defining speech of the election, what does CNN talk about? The talk about Teresa Kerry telling a right wing rag to shove it. It clearly shows how biased CNN is and how they are owned by the Republicans.
During Al Gore's speech CNN was running a crawl under his picture talking about the "shove it" story. Now - when they cover the Republican convention - what do you think the chances are that they will run a crawl about his "get fucked" comment? See what I mean? They are so much Bush's puppet at CNN.
I remember when there was a free press in America. I think the news in Russia is more accurate than America.
This is amazing. Even Fox is praising him. They look real worried. Some of them look like they are even going to vote for him. I think a lot of right wingers are really afraid tonight. This looks like a turning point to me.
Fox calls Clinton a rock star. Nothing but praise. The only digs were against Hillary saying she did nothing for her presidential run.
Letter to the Editor
For those of you out there who are speculating that Clinton's speech will overshadow Kerry's speech - well - you may be right. Clinton gave a hell of a speech. I don't think there's any way Kerry is going to top that. But if he does - Bush doesn't stand a chance. Oh how I miss Clinton and the peace and prosperity we used to have. America has fallen down and we must get back up. Clinton has inspired me to do whatever I can to get rid of Bush.
I wish he sounded that good 4 years ago. I was also concerned about reports that the Democrats weren't going to go negative - which caused me to worry that non one would bring up all the problems of the Bush administration has caused. But Gore came out hitting Bush hard and I'm hopeful this convention will do better than what I thought it would do.
And - Gore finally mention Clinton in his speech and praised him. Something that cost him his chance at being president. Something that I was deeply offended by 4 years ago. So - so far so good.
Letter to the Editor
The 9/11 report fails to address the real problem that lead to the disaster. The real problem isn't just the CIA and FBI - it's the president. Bush was told and he ignored it. Even after the attack had begun and he was told the second time - he just kept reading a story about a goat. What the American people need is a president who will put down the goat book and deal with a crisis. Bin Laden is still free. So - I'm voting Bush out for the safety of the country.
OK - you heard it here first. I bet there's a Pulitzer prize waiting for me but here's the BREAKING NEWS!
Bush is not only going to dump Cheney - but he's going to try to woo Democrats by putting together a unity ticket. And what Democrat is Bush going to pick to be his running mate? None other than HILLARY CLINTON!!!!
A Bush / Clinton ticket would be a very powerful ticket because it will attract a lot of women voters and Clinton supporters. It would alienate the Right but if its part of a plan to hold onto power - they might go for it. Besides - who else are they going to vote for? Hillary however wants to have Cheney's power and use Bush as a puppet president the way Cheney does. Bush himself doesn't have a problem with that - but Carl Rove and Donald Rumsfield hate the ticket and want to stick with Cheney.
Did you wonder why Bush was so nice to Bill Clinton last month when he came to the White House? Well - that's when Bush and Clinton struck a deal to put Hillary on the ticket. And - the real reason that the Democrats didn't want to put Hillary on the schedule originally for the Democratic Convention is because they believe the rumors might be true.
So - you might be thinking - "Perkel - you are a whaco! Do you think anyone is going to buy a story like this? Is anyone really that stupid? You're hardly a real journalist!" Well - they bought the Kerry / McCain ticket story that was just as far out and kept running it even after Kerry and McCain denied it. And you don't hear Bush denying a Bush / Clinton ticket. I may end up being wrong on this - but if Bush doesn't run with Hillary - it won't be because he didn't want to - it will be that Hillary backed out and he got stuck with his second choice.
Feel free to post this story on other blogs.
As a citizen of the United States of America - a nation that is supposedly "of the People, by the People, and for the People" and as a former candidate for the US House of Representatives (1998) and as a former candidate for United States Senate (2000) I - on behalf of the People of the United States request that the United Nations request that the United Nations formally observe the U.S. elections on Nov. 2.
I ask that I be recognized as a proxy voice for the people of the United States because the US House of Representatives passed a measure barring any federal official from requesting United Nations elections observers. If federal officials are prohibited from requesting UN observers then it is the right and the duty of the People to do so. And the prohibition itself should be justification for the UN to act.
Bush stole the 2000 election and was illegally appointed president by the Supreme Court who had no constitutional authority to do so. Since then Bush has defied the UN's authority by waging an illegal war in Iraq and has violated International Law by issuing orders to torture, rape, and murder prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan. In short - our president is a war criminal and is intent on doing whatever it take to hold onto power. Our president is a threat to the security of the world and the sovereignty of all nations.
Additionally - the president of Diebold - the largest maker of electronic voting machines used in America promised at a Republican fund raiser to deliver the election to Bush this year. These voting machines are known to have "back doors" that allow people to change the results of an election after the votes are cast.
I therefore - and on behalf of the People of the United states of America - formally request all interested nations to send election observers to monitor the November 2nd US elections.
References:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=512&ncid=703&e=4&u=/ap/20040716/ap_on_go_co/house_florida_fight
http://marc.perkel.com/pdf/torture.pdf
http://blackboxvoting.com/
Letter to the Editor
The Bush administration is moving to steal the election again by postponing the election in case of an attack around election day. If this passes and Bush is behind in the polls - there will be an attack to delay the election.
A president who is crooked enough to go to war with Iraq based on lies is crooked enough to fake a terrorist attack to usurp the election process. Bush has already stolen one election when he got the Supreme Court to halt the vote count and appoint him president. This time the people should choose our own president.
Keeping us safe from terrorism is a test of the presidency and if Bush can't figure out how to keep America safe then he doesn't deserve to be president. The Constitution is clear on the subject and it doesn't provide an exception to move the election if Bush decides to create a fake attack. We need to resist tempering with the election process and prevent Bush from stealing the election again. Bush can not be trusted with any process to delay the election for any reason. And we sure don't need to give Bush a reason to blow up buildings if he's behind in the polls.
It's the story of Bush's father being shot down in WWII and CNN is playing it over and over again. It's bad enough that they are running this propaganda in the first place - but now they are showing it several times a day - every day - over and over.
Bush is in real trouble politically and CNN is trying to prop up his sagging poll numbers by showing what a hero he father supposedly was like 50 times. Never in the history of CNN have they repeated a single story so many times. You'd think that Bush Sr. was the greatest hero of all times.
Some day Americal will have a free press again. but for now it's all Bush ads - all the time.
The Bush administration today issued another terror alert triggered by the popularity of the Kerry / Edwards ticket. This is yet another fake terror alert providing no useful information.
Homeland security chief Tom Ridge had NO SPECIFIC INFORMATION and had nothing new to say other than be scared of the boggyman. But is any of this real - and does any of this make America safer? No!
First - it's clear that Bush will issue fake terror alerts because we know he lied to us about Iraq and started a war for political purposes. We are actually in more danger of being attacked by Bush than real terrorists.
But - what if this is real? What if this time they aren't faking it? Well - in that case we are in trouble because the Bush administration is totally incompetent and is totally clueless as to how to prevent it. And if there is a terror event that is actually caused by terrorists - our current government isn't going to stop it.
Bush is not pursuing bin Laden. Bush has personally received millions of dollars from the bin Laden family and Bush's family is partners with the bin Laden's in the Carlyle Group. So the real terrorists are getting a pass putting America in danger.
The theme of Ridges speech is about "disrupting elections" and bush is setting the stage for seizing power if he should lose the election again. He's going to try to invalidate the elections based on a terrorist event.
One think I'm really worried about is if Kerry is ahead in October - Bush WILL do something spectacular in order to create some diversion as a plot to sieze power.
So - it's not the terrorists we should be watching but our own unelected war criminal who will do anything to keep his grip on power. Osama bin Laden is to be feared - but the real threat to the electroal process comes from Bush.
Of course - this is also a distraction from the fact that Bush's buddy Kennyboy Lay is being led into court in handcuffs. So Bush needs a terror alert distraction
It's amazing how the "legitimate press" fabricates news. If you listen to them you would get the idea that Kerry had offered McCain the VP slot and McCain turned it down. But Kerry never made McCain any offers according to both Kerry and McCain. This was a media fabrication because either they wanted to see that ticket - or - they wanted to be able to say Edwards was Kerry's second choice after McCain.
The truth is - it's fiction. It never happened. But the Republican owned news media will create any story to help Bush steal the election. And this is yet another example of it.
I am so glad he didn't pick Gephardt! One of the defining moments of the Gore campaign is the really bad decision he made in picking Joe Lieberman. It weas one of many really bad decisions Gore made that led to him failing to become president. So I was worried that Kerry might make a similar mistake.
Edwards is a good choice because - among other things - he has the folksy demeanor that people like in Bush. Kerry is somewhat stiff and arrogant as compared to Edwards so he fills in some gaps and will be able to help take the south. So far - today is a good day.
In yet another example of why the separation of Church and State is a good thing - Bush is making a blantant attempt at controlling the politics of churches. And - like he does with corporation that support him I'm sure he will dole out his faith based rewards based on the support the church provided during his election.
If this were legal - can you imagine the implications? Suppose Kerry were elected. Then he could pass out faith based initiative money to churches who support democrats and help them spread the word of God as seen by Christian Democrats as opposed to Christian Republicans.
Here are some of the things Bush wants churches to do for him.
Thanks to Bartcop for this idea. This is how the right wing news media would spin this headline. The story is that Bill Clinton's book has beat Hillary's book in the New York Times Bestseller's list.
It was the 1980s. Saddam was America's puppet in Iraq fighting the Iranians who has just turned into an Islamic state after America's puppet - The Shaw of Iran - died of cancer. Osama bin Laden was our buddy in Afganastan and the Teliban was know as the MujaHadine Freedom Fighters. Reagan was trading arms for hostages to fund an illegal war against the Sandinista-controlled government of Nicaragua. And now Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfield was makking oil deal with Saddam Hussein. (pictured here)
We now accuse Saddam of gassing his own people and we want to put him on trial for it. And - if he did it - he deserves to die for it. But America gave Saddam the poison gas that he used to hill the Kurd - gas that he was supposed to use to kill Iranians.
Poison gas is illegal under International Law and America making it is illegal. But Americans are above the law - or specifically Republican presidents are above the law - and we make nerve gas and we gave it to Saddam to use to kill people in Iran - which Saddam also did.
So - you see - Republicans interpret the law differently than the rest of the world. It's OK to gas Iranians - but it's not OK to gas Kurds. If Saddam if found guilty then i- in my view - his partner Ronald Reagan is also guilty. Reagan gave Saddam poison gas to kill Iranians and Saddam did what Reagan wanted - but he just gassed some Kurds on the side.
Reality is different than American political fiction. Under International Law it's just as illegal to gas Iranians as it is to gas Kurds and the criminals include everyone who was involved which includes those who supplied Saddam with the gas with instructions to use it.
Reagan is dead now - and beyond the reach of the law. But Reagan was Saddam's partner in the gassing of the Jurds and a conviction of Saddam is also a conviction of Ronald Reagan - both of whom are criminals of war.
Here's a little something I snagged off of CBS News - what are War Crimes? Their story is in reference to Saddam - but look at the list and see how many of these apply to Bush. Look to me like Bush has committed most of these crimes himself. No wonder Bush was so interested in trying to get the US to pass a resolution excusing Americans of War Crimes in Iraq. Glad they didn't pass that! Now Bush might some day be put on trial for his criminal acts.
Saddan is a bad man and deserves to be pout on trial. Bush is far worse and is the most dangerous terrorist on the planet.
The following definitions of these crimes were taken from the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court:
Genocide
This crime occurs when "the perpetrator killed one or more persons" who "belonged to a particular national, ethnical, racial or religious group," if the perpetrator "intended to destroy, in whole or in part, that national, ethnical, racial or religious group."
Genocide can involve any of the following acts: killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction, imposing measures intended to prevent births, by forcibly transferring children.
Crime Against Humanity
This crime involves conduct that "was committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population." The possible elements of crimes against humanity are:
War Crimes
War crimes cover offenses against soldiers as well as civilians that take place in the context of armed conflict. In addition to the elements listed under crimes against humanity, the possible elements of war crimes are:
I guess so? That's what Vice President Cheney said on the Senate floor. And - he refuses to apologize for it. So - I'm confused. I thought that the Republicans were the party of family values and that we had a Christian nation? What kind of example does it set for Christian children when Cheney says "Go Fuck Yourself" and doesn't even apologize for it?
On a side note - in the 1990s if Al Gore told a Republican to go fuck himself - do you think that the press would have given him a pass or do you think they would have carved it on his tombstone? You would think that the press would have covered Cheney saying Go Fuck Yourself as much as Deans screech - wouldn't you?
When France opposed the illegal war in Iraq and led the coalition of the unwilling against being suckered - Bush started calling them "Old Europe" and renamed French Fries to Freedom Fries. Now he goes crawling on his hands and knees begging the French to forgive him and give him money and troops to help bail him out in this important election year.
Now Americans are hated everywhere. He has empowered our enemies and alienated our friends. And his stunts like Freedom Fries will cost the lives of more Americans because he hasn't figured out that if you piss people off they aren't going to do you any favors.
The FED raised the interest rate today and it might be the last straw that will break the fragile economy. We are running on totally false numbers. Gas prices and energy prices spiraling out of control - health care costs in double digit inflation - and wages continue to drop. This is insanity and things are about to break. America is on the verge of collapse.
Someone met Clinton yesterday in Santa Clara and reported tha Clinton is taking this election seriously. Let's hope it's true.
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My husband, a fellow DUer, and I met the Big Dog, the Honorable William Jeffereson Clinton, last night at a fancy, shmanzy fundraiser in California. Through contacts, we were able to gain entrance to this exclusive event of the Democratic Party elite. We dined on barbeque and enjoyed the view at a "hillrop retreat" in Santa Clara Valley.
We were interviewed by the media as we approached the grounds of the home. One reporter implied that my husband, who was carrying Mr, Clinton's book, had just bought it that morning to bring to the event. He launched into a tirade about how he'd had the book for days, and how Mr. Clinton was the best President of his lifetime,etc.
We waited out in the sun for an hour or so, eating and drinking, until the President made his appearance with Nancy Pelosi. Of course he was greeted like a rock star. I was about ten feet from him, and, if you will allow a personal comment, he was even more handsome than in phographs,and very svelte. He is really in good shape! His first move was to thank the jazz band that was playing. He shook every band member's hand and had a word with each of them. He thanked the firefighters who were manning the barbeques. Yay, firefighers!
But the President was in a serious mood, and he gave a serious speech. There were moments of humor, but the theme was urgency. He actually said that if, heaven forbid, the * wins this Fall, AND the repukes retain control of both houses again, our country will not the same. I think his exact words were "You won't recognize this great country." He ended with a plea to tell everyone we know what is happening and what is at stake in this election. He told us to talk to people in words that they can understand, and to explain to them what cuts are being made in education, health care, and after school programs just so that people like him can have a tax cut. He was particularly biting and sarcastic about tax policy and the deficit.
He made fun of the repukes selling themselves as the party of fiscal discipline. He said they were more like teenagers who had been given their inheritance too early and couldn't wait to blow it!
Brothers and Sisters, the Big Dog was serious last night. He did not smile during his speech. He KNOWS what's at stake and he was begging us to do EVERYTHING we can to stop *, and to win back the House, the Senate, or both. I'm just the messenger. Think of this man, of all he has endured and sacrificed on our behalf(knowing, of course, that he is not perfect). He is scared, and we should be, too. NOW LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
At least Republicans are at least still embarrased about their borrow and spend politics and have tried to hide raising the borrowing limit inside the defense spending bill. Basically ther way it worked was that there would be language in the bill that would make financing a national secutity issue and thus in times of (fake) war the debt limits wouldn't apply - allowing Republicans to borrow and spend without the embarrassment of being seen raising the debt limits during an election year. The Democrats finally found the balls to stop it.
According to the Michael Moore movie Fahrenheight 9/11 Saudi Araiba owns 7% of America. With the growing deficit that percentage is increasing. Soon America will be under Saudi control and we will basically be their slaves.
Bush's tax cust are a means of transferring America's wealth and power to the Saudi royal family. The Saudi's no longer pay taxes - but the still pay - but now it's in loads. We are borrowing money from them - paying higher gas prices to them - making them richer - and America is becomming more indebeted to them. Once they own us - we will become Sauds.
Will we be forced to become Muslim and live under Muslim law? Will we have public beheadings like the Saudis do? Will women be forced to wear burkas? I guess we'll find out if Bush is reselected. Because the deficit will soon climb to over 1 trillion dollars a year - and the percentage of foreign ownership of America will grow. And once we are owned - you can kill American soveriengty goodbye.
I just saw the movie. Loved it! But the beginning sceenes reminded me about how angry I was with Gore after the 2000 selection. This movie is not just anti-bush. It's also very anti-Gore and very accurate indead.
I remember when it came to to confirm bush as president members of the Congress wanted to speak out about the fraud that had just occurred and it was Gore who was shouting us down and preventing us from speaking out.
Gore wanted to be a gracious loser - but what Gore doesn't get is that this election wasn't about him. It was about the people of America and we had something to say and it wasn't up to him to make that decision. And the movie really captures that.
Having said that - I also didn't know the extent that Bush and the bin Ladens were business partners and now it's pretty obvious why Bush isn't going after bin Laden anymore. It's because bin Laden did Bush a favor with 9-11 and Bush cares more about bin Laden and his Saudi friends than about Americans.
Unlike "The Day After Tomorrow" - a movie that truely sucked - Fahrenheit 9/11 is definitely a keeper. And for those of you who hate Democrats - there's a lot in there for you too. Moore's movie crosses party lines and give you a far more accurate version of reality that you see in the evening news on Television. me and the Sturdy Wench give the movie 2 thumbs up - a must see.
Finally figuring it out that if not for Nader and the Green Party - Bush wouldn't be president. I guess they decided not to make the same mistake twice and rejected the Republican backed Nader as their candidate. Good for them for finally getting it.
The Supreme Court has a different standard for Republican Presidents and Democratic Presidents. Democrats have to face trial - Republicans get a pass! In the case of Dick Cheney the Supreme Court ruled:
Court won't order Cheney Papers Released!
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority, said the federal district court judge who ordered records opened to the public had issued too broad a release of documents, without giving appropriate deference to the White House.
The president is not above the law, Kennedy wrote, but there is a "paramount necessity of protecting the executive branch from vexatious litigation that might distract it from the energetic performance of its constitutional duties."
He said "special considerations applicable to the president and the vice president suggest that the courts should be sensitive to requests by the government" in such special appeals.
But when Clinton was president they ruled differently saying that they didn't see a problem with Paula Jones bringing a bullshit lawsuit against the president. He had plenty of time to defend it back then. What a crock of shit this is!
Unanimous Supreme Court says there is no constitutional barrier to harassment suit against president
WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, May 27 1997) -- A unanimous Supreme Court ruled today that there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that bars Jones' lawsuit from proceeding against the president while he is still in office.
The court said, "Like every other citizen who properly invokes [court] jurisdiction, [Jones] has a right to an orderly disposition of her claims."
The court rejected Clinton's claims that lawsuits against presidents in office violate the separation of powers between the judicial branch and the executive branch.
Clinton's lawyers had also argued that lawsuits would interfere with presidents' official duties, and that permitting Jones' case to go forward would open the way to an avalanche of lawsuits against sitting presidents.
In an opinion written by Justice John Paul Stevens, the court said, "We are not persuaded that either of these risks is serious."
You see - when the president is a Democrat you get one set of rules - but when the president is a Republican the Supreme Court rules the opposite. And you have to consider the seriousness of the crime. Cheney was meeting with Oil Executives who were shutting electricity off to the entire west coast and planning a war with Iraq. Jones on the other hand had a much more seroius issue. That Clinton showd her his cock.
Jesus fucking Christ - the Moonies must be in control. Only if you lived in a CULT would something like this make sense!
Well finally the "mainstream media" has caught up with the Internet. CBS News finally ran the story of the Reverend Syung Mung Moon being corrinated as the messiah by members of Congress in the Dirkson office building. I blogged about it weeks ago. Where is NBC, ABC and CNN on this story? Hiding it. That's because the moonies are so powerful that they can bury this story. It's not what you see in the news that's scary - it's what you don't see.
Moon owns a lot of the media - He owns United Press International - and The Washington Times. Daddy Bush is a regular paid speaker at Moon mass weddings and Moon is the one behind the take down the cross put up the crown movement. The Christians do run America - the Moonie Christians. And as you can see, members of Congress are crowning him King. So it's official. Who are the true Christians? The Moonies are! Hail the Moonies - the only True Christians!
Its funny - Christians have been calling America a Christian nation with out a clue as to why we have the separation of Church and State. They just don't get it. So - maybe they will get it now. Yes - the Christians have taken over and they rule America. But - which Christians are in charge? The Moonies are in charge. So Christians - how do you feel about that? How do you like living in a nation where the Moonies control the state?
Religion controling government is a great idea when it's your religion that's running it. But if it's someone else's religion - then that's a very different story.
Christians have emailed me and said - "America is a Christian nation - and if you don't like it - get out!" Well - America is a Christian moonie nation - and if you don't like being a Moonie - get out!
Feels kind of different to be on the other side of that - doesn't it?
Here's a piece of the CBS Story:
The Washington Post reported that Moon received a crown that was placed on his head. The crown was carried on a pillow by Rep. Danny K. Davis, D-Ill., who wore white gloves, the newspaper said.
The Post said Moon, 85, delivered a lengthy speech at the "Crown of Peace" ceremony. The newspaper quoted Moon as saying he was "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."
So - you see Christians - you were right. Jesus has returned in the form of the reverened Syung Myung Moon. Moon is officially Jesus because America is a Christian nation - and the nation officially crowned Moon messiah. And if the government crowns you messiah - which they just did - then it's official. America officially recognizes Moon as Lord - our father - the True Parents.
From this day forward your religion as you have know it is over. You will worship Reverened Moon as God - the True Messiah. Jesus has returned. Resistance is futule. You will be assimilated. You are hereby ordered by the authority of the United States of America to bend your knee and pray to Moon now and to publically acknowledge that Moon is Christ returning.
Look Christians - this is about your eternal soul. Do you want to Burn in Hell forever? I don't think so. Well - there's only one way for you to save yourself and that is to accept the True Father into your heart and worship HIM. Reverened Moon is your true father and he has demonstrated his authority by having America - the greatest Christian nation on Earth - crown him King. Why else would former presidents like poppy Bush speak at Moon mass weddings? Why else is the leadership of the christian world sucking up to him? How do you explain miracles like this if Moon isn't the true father? Are you going to take a change with your soul and risk frying in Hell forever? It's time to bend your knee and worship Moon the way these members of Congress are. Democrats and Republicans joining together in harmony to worship Moon. This has to be a miracle! God is making it happen for Reverend Sun Myung Moon!
How about it Christians? Sounds kind of funny being on the other side of that - doesn't it? of cource - as the Founder of the Church of Reality I think all Christian religions are just as stupid. But I wanted to push the issue a little so that you can experience what it's like to be on the other side. How does that feel?
Bill Clinton's new book has outsold any book in history for first day sales. It may sell more copies than any book in history. Boy do the Clinton haters hate that. The media reviewers say the book is boring. But the public thinks different and are voting with their dollars. So - who is right? The public is.
Clinton is after all America's greatest president. And that's why everyone is so interested in him. We all long to go back to Clinton's America when we had peace and prosperity - when we were wondering what we were going to do with the surplus and people were suffering from "sudden wealth syndrome". Now we have war and terror - big brother reading our email - tracing our moves - listening to our phone calls - watching everything we buy and where we go - watching everything we do. We are so far in debt that we are afraid to think about it let alone talk about it. Americans are not safe anywhere and we talk about our alies like France and Canada as if they were our enemies.
American has fallen and we look back to the good old days and think about how great Clinton was. And we want to read his book because we want to compare him to our present day loser and wonder - can we ever go back? What happened to the Man from Hope?
It pretty clear that the government of America views Iraqis and Muslims as subhuman. For example - it was announced that a civilian contractor was going to be put on trial for "Assult" for his role in the "Abuses" at Abu Ghraib Prison.
This guy didn't "abuse" or "assult" the prisoner. He tortured the prisoner by beating him, kicking him, and punching him till he dies. This guy tortured the man to death.
If that happened to an American - it would be murder. We would be calling it a war crime and we would seek the death penalty. But because he is an Iraqi - a beating to death becomes "abuse" rather than a horrific murder. You see - hilling an Iraqi and killing an American are two different things entirely. Killing an Iraqi doesn't even generate the kind of outrage that someone abusing an American dog or cat would get.
Now - how is this different the beheadings of Americans? Well - beheadings are more grusome to look at when pictures are released. But a beheading is actually a lot less painful than being kicked to death. If I were the prisoner and I was given a choice between beheading and being kicked to death - I'd have to go with the beheading.
My point is - I'm not justifying the beheadings - I'm unjustifying the "abuses" of Iraqis that are really grusome murders. The American contractor is a war criminal and her should be turned over to the Iraqis for trial in Iraq for torture and murder. Not only should he face thise charges - but everyone who commanded him all the way up the chain of command should be put on trial for international war crimes - including General Sanchez - Rumsfield, and Bush. These are the people who ordered the rapes, torture, and murders.
This one looks as fishy as the rest that turned out to be fake. Fake terror alters and fake prosecutions put America at risk. The GOP is using this as an election tactic.
COLUMBUS, Ohio June 15, 2004 — Like thousands of fellow Somalis leaving behind brutal clan warfare, Nuradin Abdi settled in this city known for relatively mild weather, plentiful jobs and, in recent years, an abundance of shopping malls.
Just months after the government granted Abdi asylum, however, federal authorities say he was plotting to blow up one of those malls, exactly the type of target some feared would be next on terrorists' lists. Attorney General John Ashcroft said charges revealed Monday against Abdi serve as a reminder that al-Qaida is determined "to hit the United States and hit us hard."
But the portrait painted of Abdi by the government is in sharp contrast to the one offered by his family, who insist he is innocent and describe a man who hated terrorists.
Abdi, who operated a small cell phone business, loved his new freedoms and never spoke out against the U.S. government, said his brother Mohamed AbdiKarani, 17. Abdi has a son and daughter and his wife is pregnant.
"He loved it here. He never had as much freedom. He said it's good to raise his kids here," AbdiKarani said. "He really hated terrorists. You know how (President) Bush hates terrorists? I think he hates them more."
Abdi is accused of conspiring with convicted al-Qaida operative Iyman Faris a former Columbus truck driver who sought to sabotage the Brooklyn Bridge to bomb a mall in the area, though the FBI said no specific mall was targeted.
Abdi, 32, was arrested at his apartment Nov. 28, the day after Thanksgiving when malls across America were crowded with shoppers. He was held at first on immigration violations, authorities said.
Charges in the four-count indictment include providing material support to al-Qaida, conspiracy to provide material support and document fraud. If convicted on all charges, Abdi could be sentenced to up to 80 years in prison and fined $1 million.
The FBI has warned al-Qaida might shift away from trying to hit tightly guarded installations, such as government buildings or nuclear plants, to more vulnerable targets such as malls, apartment buildings or hotels.
Court papers filed by the government allege that a plot dated to March 2000 when Abdi returned from a terrorist training camp in Ethiopia to join Faris in Columbus.
U.S. Trucks Carrying Radioactive Materials Intercepted In Iraq-Kuwait Border
TEHRAN (MNA) -– The UAE-based daily Al-Khaleej reported on Monday that Kuwaiti tariff officials have intercepted a truck loaded with radioactive materials in the Iraq-Kuwait border.
The daily quoted informed sources as saying that the radioactive control team from Kuwait’s Health Ministry discovered that one of the trucks belonging to the U.S.-led coalition forces was carrying heavy radioactive materials trucks. The trucks were headed for Iraq.
The daily said that such materials could only enter a country when there is permission from related bodies while the materials were secretly being carried to Iraq.
Security forces stressed that no contamination had been caused by the material.
The MNA reported for the first time the coalition forces’ suspicious transfer of WMD parts from Kuwait to Southern Iraq by trucks.
The possible presence of WMD in Iraq and its likely nuclear programs were the main U.S. pretext for attacking the country.
However, their failure to find weapons of mass destruction in the country and the continuing turmoil in Iraq questioned the legitimacy of the U.S. war against Iraq and their presence in the country.
Bush promised a "full accounting" for "cruel and disgraceful abuse of Iraqi detainees." He said the treatment is an "insult to the Iraqi people" and an "affront to the most basic standards of morality and decency." He said those involved will "answer for their conduct in an orderly and transparent process."
Document warns Guantanamo employees not to talk
By Toni Locy, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Military and civilian employees at the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were warned recently not to talk with attorneys who represent detainees held there, according to a document prepared by the legal office of the Army-led task force that runs the facility.
The document, obtained by USA TODAY, says that soldiers and interrogators are not required to give defense attorneys statements about the "personal treatment of detainees" or any "failure to report actions of others." It also says that refusing to cooperate with defense attorneys "will not impact your career."
The warning — titled "Interaction with Defense Counsel" — has surfaced at a time when the treatment of the nearly 600 detainees at Guantanamo is under scrutiny because of the abuse and sexual humiliation of Iraqis in U.S. custody at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad. Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, former commander at Guantanamo, went to Iraq last year to share interrogation techniques used in Cuba.
A Defense Department spokesman said the document was aimed at ensuring that Guantanamo employees "know what their rights are." The spokesman said the references to detainee treatment are "relevant examples that make such training better."
Military law analysts and human rights advocates agree that Guantanamo employees should be advised against making incriminating statements. But they say the advice should be neutral.
The document "suggests that there is something that needs to be hidden" about how detainees are being treated, says Scott Silliman, a Duke University law professor and a former Air Force lawyer. "It suggests that the default should be: Don't talk."
Gary Solis, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel, says he gave similar advice to witnesses when he was a military prosecutor. "There's no impropriety," says Solis, who teaches law at Georgetown University. But "the context of this advice gives the appearance of encouraging (people) to be less than forthcoming."
The Pentagon has been secretive about interrogation tactics at Guantanamo, where suspected al-Qaeda and Taliban operatives have been held for more than two years.
President Bush has designated six Guantanamo detainees for trial by military tribunal. Four have been assigned military defense lawyers, who want to question interrogators, soldiers and other detainees. The lawyers want to explore whether evidence against their clients was gathered through abusive tactics. Three of the six detainees have been charged.
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Here's the investigation that Bush promised:
Third, because America's committed to the equality and dignity of all people, there will be a full accounting for the cruel and disgraceful abuse of Iraqi detainees. Conduct that has come to light is an insult to the Iraqi people and an affront to the most basic standards of morality and decency.
One basic difference between democracies and dictatorships is that free countries confront such abuses openly and directly. In January, shortly after reports of abuse became known to our military, an investigation was launched.
Today, several formal investigations led by senior military officials are under way. Secretary Rumsfeld has appointed several former senior officials to review the investigations of these abuses. Some soldiers have already been charged and those involved will answer for their conduct in an orderly and transparent process.
I want to take the opposite position from those who think that America should apologize to Black people for slavery. Lets look at reality here.
America wasn't the ones who started enslaving blacks. They usually bought black slaves from other blacks in Africa where slavery still exists.
The decendents of the slaves in America are generally far better off that the decendants of those who were not brought to America. Blacks in America should be thankful for their own personal sake that their ancestors were brought over here.
America fought a civil war to free the slaves and blacks all over the world enjoy far greater freedom today because of the white people who fought and died to set them free. Blacks in Africa are more free today because of the civil war. Most of black oppression in Africa today are oppressed and slaughtered by other black people.
If we go back enough generations - we all come from Africa. All our ancestors were once black from Africa. So we are all African Americans.
I will agree that there were attrocities committed by people with light skin in America against people with dark skin in America. However - 100% of my family emigrated from Europe after the Civil War and I think it's racist for people to say that I have a debt to people of color just because I'm visibly white. None of MY ancestors enslaved black people.
Most of American blacks are of mixed heritage and are the decendants of both the oppressors and the oppressed. The number of people in America who are 100% non-white is nearly zero.
I think it's time for black people to stop complaining about the past and start looking to the future - to take responsibility for your own lives and to make the choice to thrive instead of complain. There comes a point where you have to stand up and make the best of your situation and build a future for yourself and your people - or join the civilized world and identify yourself as a fellow human and not by the frequencies of light that are reflected off the surface of your skin.
I say - get over it - focus on the future - and make something of yourself that way that the Asians have. We are trying to give you a hand up - but you have to lift up your own asses and help. I am not racist when I say - I don't owe black people anything because I'm white. I didn't enslave anyone - and if slavery existed today I would be out on the front lines fighting it. But this reparations bullshit is racist.
Lets look at some other facts - more blacks have been slaves to other blacks than they have been to white people.
More blacks today are still slaves to other black people than they are to white people.
More black people are slaughtered by other black people than they are by white people.
So - it looks to me like if reparations are owed - that blacks are more in debt to blacks than whites.
So - I'm just not buying this classification thing that we judge people by the frequencies of light reflected off the surface of their skin. To me we are all one people and we are all humans regardless of race, sex, or lines drawn on a map and we are all working together for the common good of EVERYONE.
Are Liberals more Racist that Conservatives?
I actually think so - it didn't used to be that way but many of those on the left are openly racist against whites. Here's the response I got on the Democratic Underground for refuting the silly notion that white people owe black people for slavery. It's the kind of thing that makes you want to join the GOP - until you find out what the GOP is about.
Well - I've been thrown off of the Democratic Underground twice and thrown off of Free Republic twice. It's just a matter of who controls the site. And - I do that too - sometimes after enough moron posts I start nuking access. But - DU is very racist against white people and if you aren't willing to give lip service to the concept that white people are evil - you don't get to play there.
Oh well - I used to don'te money to them - but they haven't got a dime since they banned me the first time. But - neither the right wing or the left wing controls me. I say what I want - and when I want. So the Democratic Underground can go fuck themselves!
Welcome to Liberal rage!
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 11:58 AM
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1. oh boy
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boilerbabe (837 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:32 PM
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53. You still have Howard Dean on your thingy too!
And keep the liberal flame going, hunny!! Have you been on the new Dem organization site? I have been working waaay too much overtime and have not had a chance to check it out, unfortunately....Still a Deanie,I think he got SUCH a raw deal...
XXXOOO
The Boilerbabe
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pbl (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 11:58 AM
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2. I'm sorry, but I couldn't even finish reading your post
It made me so angry that I don't know what to say except, I hope you are not serious.
As a black American, I don't know whether to scream or cry after reading the part of your post that I could get through. I really hope you're not serious.
I'm not a Democrat but I play one on DU
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Tomee450 (134 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:03 PM
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11. I'm with you.
I read the first few lines and could go no further. Unfortunately, I believe there are many who are like this person.
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boilerbabe (837 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:34 PM
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55. My Question is why are they posting on DU??
SHouldn't they be on the Freeper website??
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:47 PM
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72. I find it appalling, but we DO offer the opportunity to air viewpoints
here. Some of them are bound to be distasteful. Censoring "unpleasant" posts wouldn't serve us.
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boilerbabe (837 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:29 PM
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50. I'm white, and it really bugs me, too
When I was misguided and working on the Reagan campaign oh so many years ago, they tried to pull the "color blind" thingy on me. I pretty much lost it at that point, along with the other social platforms i found that I disagreed with. What the everlovin'byJesus is this guy thinking about anyway? They also pulled that same crap on the Equal Rights Amendment....
It's easy to say "don't worry be happy" when you are white and have a good income and all that...I happen to be white and FINALLY have a good income, but that does not make me forget the people and places and situations I have lived with and have seen...am pretty much foaming at the mouth over this post, why are they letting people like this on DU for one thing??? WTF Ok...should be more open to diverse opinions? Gotta go throw up...talk to ya later GAGGAGAG
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datasuspect (58 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:47 PM
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73. i'm with you
this is post is some unmitigated, offensive bullshit
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 11:59 AM
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3. lift up your own asses - that's precious
Don't worry about the fact that you live in a society that has racism and racial bias ingrained in every institution. Ignore the workplace racism that exists almost everywhere. Although the govt keeps going against programs designed to try and equalize opportunities. Just pull up your bootstraps.
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:01 PM
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5. The ASIANS did it
And you don't see me complaining because Asians are more successful than white people.
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:04 PM
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12. So much to say - such little interest
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:12 PM
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25. Yeah, the ASIANS did the EXACT SAME THING
they were enslaved and brought over here, lived for generations in slavery, then were freed and overcame the generations of ingrained disdain for them. That's why Asians have already thanked the US Government.
Unless specifically noted above, this post is not based on published data or scientific findings and is therefore meaningless.
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:17 PM
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32. Thanks !!! Someone gets it!
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:20 PM
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36. No, someone DOES NOT
your sarcasm detector needs tuning.
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:22 PM
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40. Thanks! Someone who gets it!
oh well, at least this stupid thread has made me laugh.
Unless specifically noted above, this post is not based on published data or scientific findings and is therefore meaningless.
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:21 PM
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37. I thought I was making fun of you, actually
but I guess you're the one around here who knows the "facts", so who am I to argue?
Unless specifically noted above, this post is not based on published data or scientific findings and is therefore meaningless.
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boilerbabe (837 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:51 PM
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83. You Can't Make Fun of Someone That is Serious
So What else do you have up your sleeve? I took it all kindof seriously, since I have been working waaay too much, my job has kindof put me sideways, it's kind of like ruining my whole perspective. Like 84 hour work weeks. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it!!
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Cheswick (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:39 PM
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65. Asian are more successful than white people?
What standards are you using?
I like Kerry better this way. = )
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:47 PM
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74. Don't You DARE Try To Pit Communities Against Each Other With Divisive BS
Asians Americans owe African Americans and other people of color an ENORMOUS debt of gratitude, because without the brave and heroic efforts of the Civil Rights Movement pioneers, the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 never would have become law, and there just wouldn't be very many Asians even living in this country. Without the Civil Rights Movement, the few Asians that would be here, would be suffering from even worse racism than people of color already do.
Regarding the "more successful" claim, most Asians live in urban areas, and many report (when they report at all, the poorer ones often don't) data through extended families, and quite a few have higher average education levels due to cultural emphasis. All of these factors skew household income numbers higher than the national average.
Regardless, Asian Americans are not a monolithic group. Some come from countries where the immigrants are middle-class, with a decent amount of capital and a built-in support network of immigrants who came over to America earlier. Often these subgroups do pretty well, and emphasize education for their children. Other subgroups come from crushing poverty, or are fleeing war, and do not do nearly so well.
I am Asian American, and I reject your divisive tactics.
DTH
Play the BushGame! It's a little crass, but informative and hilarious. http://www.emogame.com/bushgame.html I am a proud supporter of John Forbes Kerry for President.
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boilerbabe (837 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:42 PM
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69. Yeah, Right!
I am a white woman in a male-dominant workplace...fortunately this time around, I have not really encountered a lot of "hey bitch, what are you doing here" kind of stuff...I kick ass anyway...
I found where I came from...(Maine) the people distinguish others by saying they are "Black" or some other thing...I also find this here in Connecticut. I try to ease my fellow workers thru the "Fag", "Nigger" thing, I think it's more or less a stupidity thing, seeing as how we have some "Fags, and Niggers" working here anyway. Zoinks, what's a girl to do ? I am not a Fag or a NIgger, but I will be perfectly happy to be one!
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freetobegay (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:00 PM
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4. I just love waking up & loging on to DU just to see tripe!
Thanks to the Bush Administration, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:01 PM
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8. Take heart
there's plenty of intelligent threads to visit.
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:01 PM
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6. I've seen stupid posts before but this one takes the cake
42.7% of all statistics get made up on the spot ~
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pbl (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:01 PM
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7. May I add
Bush isn't the only who has gotta go!!!!!!!!! You are major league @sshole.
I'm not a Democrat but I play one on DU
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:03 PM
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10. You can instult me - but I dont't see anyone disputing my facts
Everything I said is 100% true.
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pbl (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:06 PM
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14. How can you prove or disprove opinion
This is your opinion and may I add that your opinion of blacks in America is wrong!
I'm not a Democrat but I play one on DU
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:49 PM
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77. Agreed that seems, at least, really uninformed, but
how can an "opinion" be wrong?
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Snow (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:06 PM
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16. Well, okay, I'll start with your subject line...how do you figure
some entity called "America" ended slavery? And really, that's about as far as I got.
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Political_Junkie (482 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:07 PM
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20. See post #3
no need to dispute your "facts" because you left out the very relevant truth of racism in America.
"...years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Eugene V. Debs
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Snow (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:10 PM
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22. Also, a little applied logic would be educational....imagine, if you will,
"facts" that are not "100% true" - perhaps 97% true facts? or 43% true facts?
I'm not just picking on semantics, here, youngster - if your thinking isn't any clearer that that, then it carries over into your argument about slavery.
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Nimble_Idea (677 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:12 PM
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26. no, the only thing 100% is your stupidity you freeping monkey
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 12:12 PM by Nimble_Idea
your facts are just a projection of your hate , emanating from the cesspool of sludge that is backed up in your orifices.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:50 PM
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79. That because you didn't read my post...convenient
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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Straight Shooter (708 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:02 PM
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9. DU -- Do we have an Idiotic Question of the Century Award?
I think we have a winner.
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. (author unknown)
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goclark (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:10 PM
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24. The Idiot's Award Goes To
the post writer.
I am African American and I would suggest that he/she start reading history books that are NOT written by the KKK.
clark2
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Jen6 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:05 PM
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13. Like asking "should a beaten wife
thank her husband when he stops beating her"?
Good Lord!
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it. - M.K. Gandhi
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McDiggy (52 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:17 PM
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30. not quite
No, it's like asking "Should the great-granddaughter thank her great-grandfather for beating her great-grandmother in a situation that ended in her inheriting billions of dollars due to the aforementioned relationship."
Not saying I agree with the guy, I just hate falacious discussion that is flat out silly hyperbole.
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Political_Junkie (482 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:06 PM
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15. ???
go back to freeperville, asshole.
"...years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Eugene V. Debs
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gmoney (613 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:06 PM
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17. this is the kind of thinking...
that would advocate bringing back slavery to reduce unemployment.
No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up. -- Lily Tomlin
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:07 PM
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18. Oh, for Pete's sake....
Are with just about done with the "Should X apologize to Y about Whatever"?
It's just guaranteed flamebait every damn time, and annoying as well.
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:07 PM
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19. There would be few black Americans
if there had never been slavery, and no matter who sold America her slaves, America has always proclaimed freedom as its primary purpose, unless you were something other than a landowning white male.
While African Americans being grateful for now being free, actually thanking anyone but the gods and / or good luck is ludicrous on its face. It took almost 100 years for this country to make sure African Americans a REAL right to vote and attend decent schools. In some places, like Florida, one can argue the vote is being taken back from Black Americans.
The DLC is _STILL_ in Dean-ial! Give 'em Hell, Howard!
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:16 PM
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28. But America didn't invent slavery
Slavery was common all over the world. It was common in the middle east - Africa - and at times in Europe. All kinds of people were enslaved. But in America we fought a war to end slavery and moved world opinion away from the evils of enslaving people. The slavery situation has vastly improved worldwide because of the efforts of people of all colors working together.
America was not the culprit - we are part of the solution. I am not proud of what white people - who are not my ancestors - in America did before I was born when they enslaved others. I am proud of what people of all colors did here in America to stop it. People who are also not my ancestors.
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:30 PM
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51. The civil war was not fought to end slavery
that act was a by product of the war.
Lincoln never had any intention of ending slavery -- he stated so several times.
That war was about bringing the union back together.
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OaktownGrrl (293 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:35 PM
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59. Thanks Cat Woman.
I was going to posit same above where he stated his facts were 100% true.
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Cheswick (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:59 PM
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96. the thing breaking the Union apart was slavery
The issue of states rights was about whether new states should be allowed to be slave states. The southern states felt they would lose their political advantage if new states were not slave states.
The abolitionists in the north were gaining too much influence and breaking from the union was the only way they saw to continue their "way of life".
So the war was about states right...but it was the right to own slaves that was the disagreement.
So even if it was his intention at the begining to "end slavery". The war did transform itself to that purpose by the time he made the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
He may have started out as a very imperfect man of his times, but he ended up with the intention of ending slavery and he accomplished it. Sometimes history is transforming and people step up to the challenge.
I like Kerry better this way. = )
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Cheswick (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:46 PM
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71. slavery ended in many places before it ended in America
get your facts straight.
I like Kerry better this way. = )
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:54 PM
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88. Uh WRONG!!!!
America was just about the LAST place to outlaw slavery......the United States had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the nineteenth century.
Jeez laweez!!!!! Your ignorance is embarrassing!
And we tried so hard. And we looked so good. And we lived our lives in black. But something about you felt like pain. You were my sunny day rain......
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playahata1 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:09 PM
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103. And by the way, you are using the same argument that Bushco
uses to justify Abu Ghirab: "SADAAM WAS WORSE!" The fact that other countries started slavery does not justify America's participation in it.
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Nimble_Idea (677 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:08 PM
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21. I think it's you who has to lift your head out of your ass
so get about the business of doing that ok.
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Name removed (0 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:10 PM
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23. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
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McDiggy (52 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:14 PM
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27. .............
Well, he does have a point. Would African Americans be Americans if it were not for slavery? The question that should be asked is if these ends justify the means; is it worth the agony of your forefathers to live in the wealthiest nation in the world?
I'm not sure what's with the vitrol towards the poster. All I see are numberous knee-jerk reactions without reading or contemplating the entire post.
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:16 PM
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29. sniff sniff...
hmm.
"vitriol" "knee-jerk"....
yeah.
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Name removed (0 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:17 PM
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31. Deleted message
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:17 PM
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33. would it be worth it to you
to have your freedom taken away so that your progeny could have the chance to be Bill Gates' maid?
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:19 PM
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35. out of the mouths of babes
You raise a brilliant point. Most people here on DU have probably NEVER heard arguments like the poster makes. WOW, what a wake-up call for us. Perhaps we should hit the books and do some research about this issue.
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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pbl (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:23 PM
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43. May I be the first black on this thread to say
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 12:26 PM by pbl
Thank ya massa, thank ya!
This nation wouldn't be great without the black people that it enslaved. It became wealthy at the expense of my forefathers and I don't know where people get this idea that black people owe their freedom to white people-- we fought for every single thing we ever got.
This is the whole mindset of America that has us in this mess in Iraq, that we are the only ones who can free people and life is so much worse if you don't have the American culture to guide you.
I'm not a Democrat but I play one on DU
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:24 PM
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44. We've been "contemplating" this simplistic, racist crap for years...
we get to "contemplate" it everytime Limbaugh and his ilk open their pieholes.
sadiesworld
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:25 PM
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47. Exactly - They wouldn't be here if not for slavery
I am NOT endorsing slavery in any way. The point is - none of the black people in America TODAY were slaves. Neither are any of the JEWS alive today slaves in Egypt. That stuff happened to OTHER PEOPLE. There are a lot of WHITE PEOPLE in America who are also the decendants of slaves. And - there are lots of people of MIXED RACE who are the decendents of people who did all kinds of things.
In fact - every single person on the planet is the decendents of both the oppressed and the oppressors. But that is all backward looking.
If anyone of any reace is going to move themselves and "their people" forward then you have to move your focus away from what happened to ancestors you never met and take some personal responsibility to make something of yourself.
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:29 PM
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49. Actually, you've endorsed slavery pretty handily
after all, the sons of former slaves should be thanking their fomer overseers for the beatings, and rapings, and loss of dignity since now they're MURCANS!
There's a word for people like you, but even I won't stoop to that level of obscenity.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:48 PM
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76. Take some personal responsibility? Kiss my lily white ass!
Next I suppose you'll argue that the ghettoization of blacks is good because it allows them to rise to their level of arrested development
BTW...WHERE is Asia is your family from?
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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Cheswick (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:06 PM
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101. you are a very young dittohead aren't you?
Don't worry there is still time for your head to detox. Finish High School take some sociology and history classes and then come back and see us.
I like Kerry better this way. = )
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:32 PM
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52. I read the entire post..and your question is based on the assumptions
he offers as though any are historically correct.
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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playahata1 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:49 PM
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78. Did African slaves ASK to come to the "New World?"
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 01:05 PM by playahata1
They had no choice in the matter, and even if their descendants had the option to go back to Africa, they would not take it, because they had the old ways and culture stripped from them.
You seem to imply that black people should be happy to live in America because of its alleged "superiority" to African -- and other -- cultures. That BS that you and your boy are running off at the keyboard with is not appreciated here, Jack!
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BringEmOn (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:54 PM
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87. Another one with no fork in the family tree?
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:07 PM
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102. Slavery isn't the only way to immigrate.
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 01:13 PM by philosophie_en_rose
"Would African Americans be Americans if it were not for slavery?"
Um... yeah. They could have been the sons and daughters of willing immigrants.
Plus, African Americans were not given the rights of Americans until they demanded it. Regardless of slavery or segregation, African Americans don't owe a damned thing to the people that perpetuate the systems that oppress them.
And, do African Americans really live in the "wealthiest nation"? Are there as many African Americans (or "more successful" Asians) in affluent areas as there are in poverty?
We have to fight back. But we can't fight like they do. The Right's entertainment value comes from their willingness to lie and distort. Ours will have to come from being funny and attractive. And passionate. And idealistic. But also smart. And not milquetoasty. We've got to be willing to throw their lies in their face. - Al Franken
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:18 PM
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34. You're wrong on your second sentence
America DID start slavery, enshringing the evil institution within it's defining document, the constitution.
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YIMA (75 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:22 PM
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39. I thought Romans also had black slaves.......
.....as did the Greeks. Of course, both of these cultures enslaved many of the people they conquered.
OUT DA BUSHES!!!!
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:51 PM
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80. I'm afraid you're mistaken. Slavery predates America by quite a bit.
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:22 PM
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38. Your thinking is typical of prejudiced and uninformed Americans.
African-Americans are denied the opportunity to even obtain an interview for mid to high level jobs because of "ethnic-sounding" names.
Discrimination and racism still exist, as your own post proves. We are only decades removed from segregation. Children who attend public schools with predominantely African-American populations receive an inferior education to children attending schools where the majority is caucasian.
Racial profiling by the police, the number of African-American males incarcerated (while "white collar" crimes go largely unprosecuted, or result in little to no jail time for those convicted), I could go on and on...
Level the playing field. Let's be fair and give everyone an equal opportunity, then we can talk about moving on and looking towards the future. As it stands now, the future for many minorities is not as bright as it may be for caucasian people.
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DoctorMyEyes (684 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:22 PM
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41. I thought you were channeling Dinesh D'Souza
or attempting some kind of satire - but you're serious aren't you?
Maybe you should go hang out with the freepers or join the American Enterprise Institute - they seem more in tune with your logic.
Why I thought you were *doing" D'Souza:
from "The End of Racism":
"If America as a nation owes blacks as a group reparations for slavery, what do blacks as a group owe America for the abolition of slavery?"
I gave you too much credit.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:23 PM
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42. What I first began to post started with F and ended with YOU
But the racism inherent in your post is beyond disgusting...allow me to pick it apart...oh and welcome back to DU BTW
America wasn't the ones who started enslaving blacks. They usually bought black slaves from other blacks in Africa where slavery still exists.
That is known as equivocating. That is tantamount to saying that since Hitler actually brought to light the Ukraines murdered by Stalin and since Hitler only exterminated 6 million and Stalin murdered million more that we should actually pause and give thanks to Hitler for ending atrocities in the Ukraine.
The decendents of the slaves in America are generally far better off that the decendants of those who were not brought to America. Blacks in America should be thankful for their own personal sake that their ancestors were brought over here.
Again that is a triangulating argument....many many MORE people were taken into slavery due to the MARKET for it CREATED by the white men that came to take slaves...
America fought a civil war to free the slaves and blacks all over the world enjoy far greater freedom today because of the white people who fought and died to set them free. Blacks in Africa are more free today because of the civil war. Most of black oppression in Africa today are oppressed and slaughtered by other black people.
And that would be a good argument but for the fact that it oversimplifies the causes of the civil war including secession.
BTW most black oppression in Africa today is being spurred on in many regions due to WHITE economic interests such as the race for COLTAN to keep our cell phones and computers humming along...again oversimplification .....it's as though you are claiming that since African wars are black on black versus western wars which are WHITES on every other color, our causes are so much more pure.
If we go back enough generations - we all come from Africa. All our ancestors were once black from Africa. So we are all African Americans.
Not even historically true since some of the earliest human forms are traced to Asia
I will agree that there were attrocities committed by people with light skin in America against people with dark skin in America. However - 100% of my family emigrated from Europe after the Civil War and I think it's racist for people to say that I have a debt to people of color just because I'm visibly white. None of MY ancestors enslaved black people.
BULL FUCKING SHIT...the oppression of African Americans and the economic benefits to white Americans did NOT end with the civil war...so that argument is MOOT.
Most of American blacks are of mixed heritage and are the decendants of both the oppressors and the oppressed. The number of people in America who are 100% non-white is nearly zero.
Complete non-sequitur
I think it's time for black people to stop complaining about the past and start looking to the future - to take responsibility for your own lives and to make the choice to thrive instead of complain. There comes a point where you have to stand up and make the best of your situation and build a future for yourself and your people - or join the civilized world and identify yourself as a fellow human and not by the frequencies of light that are reflected off the surface of your skin.
I say - get over it - focus on the future - and make something of yourself that way that the Asians have. We are trying to give you a hand up - but you have to lift up your own asses and help.
Wow if I sit here and pick apart all the stereotypes you invoke with this sentence...of laziness, ecoexting something for nothing, pretending that blacks have brought all oppression to themselves...I might lunge through the computer.
Welcome back Jumper..glad to see nothng's changed
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:48 PM
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75. For all you freeps out there that can read ....
Refer yourselves to the post above. I wish I'd written it, but I'm so fuming irritated that all I can say is F*CK YOU bushgottago_gotago.
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camero (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:25 PM
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45. maybe they should thank the rich>major sarcasm
since the rich are the ones that bought and sold the slaves eh? What a stupid post.
``We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.''-George Orwell
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:25 PM
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46. Should White people thank Black people
for all the underpaid labor the Black people's ancestors performed as slaves?
And maybe show their gratitude for all the hard work done by slaves by presenting their heirs with a nice check for wages owed (including overtime pay)?
Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:36 PM
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61. hmmm - I would say - YES
Because those people are still here and still alive today. That is a real issue that is current. We do need to end anything that makes black people disadvantaged today.
Like I said - focus on the future - not the past.
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:53 PM
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85. And property legally earned belongs to one's heirs
And we know slavery is (and should have been) illegal
And we know labor should be fairly compensated, and have laws to ensure this.
Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:27 PM
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48. As a black person, I'd like to speak on behalf of other blacks, and say
FUCK YOU.
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:35 PM
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56. Cat, can you be more direct perhaps?
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:38 PM
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63. LOL
In the future, I'll try to tone it down.
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:52 PM
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84. not on my account i hope
He who knows he knows, doesn't know. He who knows he doesn't know, knows. -Joseph Campbell
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Political_Junkie (482 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:39 PM
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64. Woohoo! You go, girl!
"...years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Eugene V. Debs
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bushgottago (98 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:33 PM
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54. Well - at least it's not about REAGAN!
For those of you who are tired of the never ending funeral.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:35 PM
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60. It was what Reagan stood for and cut and paste from David
Horowitz....his ten arguments against reparations...up yours
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:35 PM
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57. It's time for black people to stop complaining...
And it's time for you to grow a brain. What absolute, sophomoric, idiotic and bigoted logic. Thanks for soiling the board.
I'd say more but I've already read the measured and sensible responses to your crap, which I think I can rightly assume you will neither read nor comprehend.
I am so very sure that YOU "are trying to give... a hand up"... where? the ass?
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:35 PM
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58. Folks, this trolling flamfest thread is a DISTRACTION
from the REAL story this morning:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic...
Proof of torture in the pictures and that dogs were used in that torture, not to frighten, but to INJURE!
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Political_Junkie (482 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:53 PM
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86. Thanks, Walt,
I hadn't see that.
"...years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Eugene V. Debs
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Cheswick (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:36 PM
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62. Should men thank women for giving birth all these centuries
so that they could prosper and rule the world?...You know, enslavement by Uterus!
oops, excuse my interupting your borderline racist rant.
make something of yourself that way that the Asians have. We are trying to give you a hand up - but you have to lift up your own asses and help.
ummm yikes
I like Kerry better this way. = )
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playahata1 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:57 PM
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95. Cheswick -- that is NOT borderline racist,
that is ALL-THE-WAY racist, period! Let's not beat around the bush here.
Note to Jerk-off of the Year: You say that you are not white. What makes you think that white Americans fully accept you -- if you are indeed what you claim to be?
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:40 PM
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66. I'd consider this thread a successful ultimate something or other
because a poster with less than 100 posts has just about single handedly alienated every last African American DUer from this site.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:42 PM
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67. Correction
Less than 100 posts in this incarnation
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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matcom (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:42 PM
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68. "get over it"???? are you FUCKING INSANE??
i would NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER "get over it" if it were MY history.
"get over it?"
i just can't IMAGINE why this thread was started in the first place
-"Your Government Failed You...." - Richard Clarke
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playahata1 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:42 PM
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70. Who in hell are you to tell black people to "get over it"?
Racism and slavery are NOT dead in this country. You stand a better chance of being hired, of not being followed around in a store, of becoming CEO of a major corporation -- hell, President of the United States -- than I do.
I won't further dignify your bullshit by going on. Your ignorance is beyond words, and contempt.
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supernova (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:51 PM
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81. Should Bushgottago be sold into slavery?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 12:52 PM by supernova
It seems fitting.
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:55 PM
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93. I think I just found a viable use for Abu Graib
"There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Mafia." Kurt Vonnegut
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supernova (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:59 PM
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97. Well, there you go
keep a thing long enough and eventually you find a use for it.
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datasuspect (58 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:57 PM
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94. i got a book of s&h green stamps
toward the purchase
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Political_Junkie (482 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:01 PM
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100. hmmm...
Got me thinking, Supernova.
"...years ago, I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." Eugene V. Debs
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:51 PM
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82. this is the most moronic post I've ever seen, and you, sir, are a racist!
Forever a Howard Dean Democrat......
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bandera (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:54 PM
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89. The sheer ignorance of this post is appalling.
It's more than obvious that you have little knowledge of what the American institition of slavery, and just as importantly, it's aftermath entailed. I would advise you to read a bit of that history before endulging in such remarks as:
"They usually bought black slaves from other blacks in Africa where slavery still exists."
"America fought a civil war to free the slaves and blacks all over the world enjoy far greater freedom today because of the white people who fought and died to set them free. Blacks in Africa are more free today because of the civil war. Most of black oppression in Africa today are oppressed and slaughtered by other black people."
"I say - get over it - focus on the future - and make something of yourself that way that the Asians have. We are trying to give you a hand up - but you have to lift up your own asses and help."
As for "not being responsible" because "my ancestors" enslaved no one.
I would think that most of us were born after Japanese Americans were sent to concentration camps by our government during WWII. Yet most of us were quite willing to see apolgies and reparations made to those victims of American injustice.
Your rationalizations and excuses sound an awful lot like the drivel I've heard Limbaugh and his ilk spew.
"Mejor morir a pie que vivir en rodillas." - Dolores Iburruri - Madrid 1936
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newsguyatl (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:54 PM
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90. and i say your rationale
is idiotic at best.
pathetic.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." George Bernard Shaw
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FleshCartoon (539 posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:55 PM
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91. This argument reminds me of when someone I know...
...who used to beat their wife said that she had it coming because she provoked him.
I suppose that when he allowed her to finally divorce him and didn't go gunning for her like we all expected him to, she should have sent him a thank you card for sparing her life.
Give me a break. This is just bullshit!
Something Shakespeare never said was, "You've got to be kidding!"
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 12:55 PM
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92. Should White People Demand Anything About Slavery?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 01:11 PM by philosophie_en_rose
Even if you didn't personally kidnap Africans and force them to work on cotton fields, you benefit from the privilege created by that system.
No one can force you to empathize with an experience you obviously think is easy to ignore. That's a personal failing you'll just have to live with for the rest of your life. However, even should everyone "get over it" the political, economic, and cultural effects of slavery would still exist.
"Blacks should be grateful..." For what? For free housing and food back in the day... of slavery. Being raped, enslaved, and degraded for more that four hundred years is sure something to be grateful about.
As for your ignorant comments on Africa, I think you need to learn a little more about colonialism in Africa if you think anyone there should be grateful for the interference of caucasians.
This is probably just a flamebait thread, but it's nice to see how morans can bring us together.
We have to fight back. But we can't fight like they do. The Right's entertainment value comes from their willingness to lie and distort. Ours will have to come from being funny and attractive. And passionate. And idealistic. But also smart. And not milquetoasty. We've got to be willing to throw their lies in their face. - Al Franken
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Mikimouse (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:00 PM
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98. I had to read this entire thread to realize that it was NOT...
written by the likes of Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity, and I am still horrified. The most germane point(among thousands that you choose to ignore) that you clearly do not understand is this: (Maestro, please a little organ music appropriate for the occasion, something rousing, like the Battle Hymn of the Republic, playing in the background) The great white society FREED the slaves, hooray, hooray, hooray! BUT FOR WHAT! TO STARVE TO DEATH BECAUSE THEY THEN HAD NO ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN LIFE!!!!!!!!!! OH yeah, we shoud be SO proud. By the way, my ancestors didn't own slaves either, but unless you have missed the entire point, which I suspect you have, we are all supposed to be in this deal TOGETHER. NO, I'm not shitting you, REALLY!
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number6 (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-12-04 01:00 PM
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99. Black People Should Thank
all those white people who organized resistance
to slavery in the south ...
"I think it's time for black people to stop complaining about the past and start looking to the future - to take responsibility for your own lives and to make the choice to thrive instead of complain."
and who the hell said they should not ?
Well - apparently America really is a Christian Nation - but it's the Moonies who have officially been chosen by the US Government to be the official state religion. On March 23rd 2004 Moon was officially crowned messiah by Congress in the Senate Dirksen Office Building.
What's scary is - why don't you see this in the news media? Maybe this is why it feels like America is one big cult - because it is! America is being run by the Moonies and they own a lot of Americas press uncluding United Press International (UPI) and The Washington Times. When the government crowns Sun Myung Moon king, (Moon spokesman explains moon corination cerimony - windows media format) recognizes Moon as messiah, and supports his campaign to replace the Cross with the Crown - don't you think that Christians would want to know that?
If this isn't a reason to support the separation of church and state I don't know what is. There are those out there who believe that America is a Christian nation. Well - apparently from this they are right. But the dominate flavor of Christianity is the Moonies. It's the Unification Church that is the brand of Christianity that is pulling the governments strings.
You see - the idea of a Christian Nation is very appealing to Christians until the Moonies get control. But when the Moonies get it - I suppose the Christians would want some sort of separation of the State and Denominations. Would it be any different if the Baptists were in control? Or if the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, or Seventh Day Adventists, or the Church of Scientology was in control? After all - from the perspective of the only true religion, The Church of Reality all these Christian denominations are just as crazy as the Moonies. Especially if they had the kind of power that the Moonies have.
I challenge all Christians to look into this and find out how much influence the Moonies have in your church and in your denomination. If you only knew it would shock the hell out of you. Now that the government wants you to Take Down the Cross and put up the Crown - how do you feel about the separation of church and state now?
Why are some of the capital’s most influential power players hanging out with a bizarre Korean billionaire who claims to be the Messiah?
by John Gorenfeld, Contributor
6.09.04
Should Americans be concerned that on March 23rd a bipartisan group of Congressmen attended a coronation at which a billionaire, pro-theocracy newspaper owner was declared to be the Messiah – with royal robes, a crown, the works? Or that this imperial ceremony took place not in a makeshift basement church or a backwoods campsite, but in a Senate office building?
The Washington Post didn't think so. For a moment on April 4, a quote from the keynote speech was in the Web version of its "Reliable Sources" column. The speaker: Sun Myung Moon, 84, an ex-convict whose political activities were at the center of the 1976-8 Koreagate influence-peddling probe. That's when an investigation by Congress warned that Moon, after having befriended Richard Nixon in his darkest hour, was surrounding himself with other politicians to overcome his reputation: as the leader of the cult-like Unification Church, which recruited unwary college students, filled Madison Square Garden with couples in white robes, wed them in bulk and demanded obedience.
That was before he launched the Washington Times – "in response to Heaven’s direction," as he would later say – and a 20-year quest to make his enemies bow to him. He has also claimed, in newspaper ads taken out by the Unification Church, that Jesus, Confucius, and the Buddha have endorsed him. Muhammad, according to the 2002 ad, led the council in three cries of "mansei," or victory. And every dead U.S. president was there, too – because Moon's gospel is inseparable from visions of true-blue American power.
Now, this March, Moon was telling guests at the Dirksen Senate Office Building that Hitler and Stalin, having cleaned up their acts, had, in a rare public statement from beyond the grave, called him "none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."
But not long after it appeared on the Post's web site, the paper erased the quote. Columnist Richard Leiby told me via e-mail that it shouldn't have gone out in the first place. The paper replaced it with breaking news about "Celebrity Jeopardy!" with Tim Russert.
The Return of the King
So no one covered this American coronation, except Moon's own Times, which skipped the Messiah part. It wasn't in other newspapers, which only wink at the influence of Moon's far-right movement in Washington, when they cover it at all.
In fact, the only place you could read about the new king, unless you bookmarked Moon's Korean-language website, was in the blog world. There, dozens of the most CSPAN2-hardened cynics reacted to the screenshots with a resounding "WTF," the sound of dismay and confusion at a scene that news coverage hadn't prepared them for. The images might as well have come from Star Trek's Mirror Universe.
First, we're shown a rabbi blowing a ram's horn. Most Jews would hold off on this until the High Holy Days, but it probably counts if the Moshiach shows up in a federal office building at taxpayer expense. Then we see the man of the hour, Moon, chilling at a table at the Dirksen in a tuxedo, soaking all this up. He claps. He's having a ball.
Cut to the ritual. Eyes downcast, a man identified as Congressman Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) is bringing a crown, atop a velvety purple cushion, to a figure who stands waiting austerely with his wife. Now Moon is wearing robes that Louis XIV would have appreciated. All of this has quickly been spliced into a promo reel by Moon's movement, which implies to its followers that the U.S. Congress itself has crowned the Washington Times owner.
But Section 9 of the Constitution forbids giving out titles of nobility, setting a certain tone that might have made the Congressional hosts shy about celebrating the coronation on their websites. They included conservatives, the traditional fans of Moon's newspaper: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA.), Rep. Chris Cannon (R-Utah), Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-Md.) and Republican strategy god Charlie Black, whose PR firm represents Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress. But there were also liberal House Democrats like Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) and Davis. Rep. Harold Ford (D-Tenn.) later told the Memphis Flyer that he'd been erroneously listed on the program, but had never heard of the event, which was sponsored by the Washington Times Foundation.
Rep. Curt Weldon's office tenaciously denied that the Congressman was there, before being provided by The Gadflyer with a photo depicting Weldon at the event, found on Moon's website. "Apparently he was there, but we really had nothing to do with it," press secretary Angela Sowa finally conceded. "I don't think it's quite accurate that the Washington Times said that we hosted the event. We may have been a Congressional co-host, but we have nothing to do with the agenda, the organization, the scheduling, and our role would be limited explicitly to the attendance of the Congressman."
The spokeswoman for one senator, who asked that her boss not be named, said politicians weren't told the awards program was going to be a Moon event. The senator went, she said, because the Ambassadors promised to hand out awards to people from his home state, people who were genuinely accomplished. When the ceremony morphed into a platform for Moon, she said, people were disconcerted.
"I think there was a mass exodus," she said. "They get all these senators on the floor, and this freak is there."
A new world order
The last time someone declared himself Emperor of the United States, it was the Gold Rush's Joshua Norton, a sort of failed dot-commer of the 1850s. But he was broke, whereas a random sampling of Moon's properties might include a healthy chunk of the U.S. fishing industry, the graphic tablet company Wacom, and swaths of real estate on an epic scale. The money-losing Times is paid for by the $1 billion he's sunk into it, along with untold funding for conservative policy foundations like the American Family Coalition.
George Soros has recently gotten lots of coverage as a supposedly eccentric billionaire influencing U.S. politics. But Soros is no Moon. In Moon's speeches, a "peace kingdom" is envisioned, in which homosexuals – whom he calls "dung-eating dogs" – would be a thing of the past. He said in January: "Gays will be eliminated, the three Israels will unite. If not, then they will be burned. We do not know what kind of world God will bring, but this is what happens. It will be greater than the communist purge but at God's orders."
And ignoring every mainline Christian denomination's rejection of the idea of Jewish collective guilt, Moon's latest world tour calls on rabbis to repent for betraying Christ, the Jerusalem Post reported last week. Speaking in Arlington, VA in 2003, Moon said Hitler killed six million Jews as a penalty for this rejection. And he's frank about calling for democracy and the U.S. Constitution to be replaced by religious government that he calls "Godism," calling the church-state separation the work of Satan. "The church and the state must become one as Cain and Abel," he said in the same sermon.
Towards this end, Moon's "Ambassadors for Peace" have been promoting his goal of a "Religious United Nations" organized around God, not countries. In the June 19, 2003 Congressional Record, Rep. Davis joins Rep. Weldon in thanking Moon and the Ambassadors for "promoting the vision of world peace." He praises their plan to "support the leaders of the United Nations" through interfaith dialogue. Much of the dialogue has consisted of getting Moon's retinue of rabbis, ministers and Muslim clerics to hug each other, and be photographed handing out awards to politicians. The Ambassadors have addressed the United Nations and the British House of Lords. They have also honored at least one neo-Nazi, William Baker, former chair of the Holocaust-denying Populist Party.
And far from the free lunches that Emperor Norton received in San Francisco, Moon's groups have taken home grant money from the Bush Administration, which has given his anti-sex missionaries $475,000 in Abstinence-Only dollars to bring Moon's crusade against "free sex" to both black New Jersey high-schoolers and native Africans. The Centers for Disease Control briefly announced that another Moon foundation was the only group qualified to receive another, no-bid grant for HIV education in Africa. Only after a competitor raised objections did the CDC cancel the grant program entirely. Meanwhile, one of Moon's top political movers, David Caprara, has been appointed by George W. Bush to head AmeriCorps VISTA; and another former church VIP, Josette Shiner, was given a senior trade position.
Friends in high places
In the early stages of the Reagan Revolution that embraced the Washington Times and Moon's anti-Communist movement, it was embarrassing to be caught at a Moon event. Until George H.W. Bush appeared with Moon in 1996, thanking him for a newspaper that "brings sanity to Washington," famous guests often spoke at front groups that concealed ties to the Unification Church. Bill Cosby was horrified to discover he'd agreed to speak at one. The reputation of future "Left Behind" author Tim LaHaye suffered after his wife accidentally gave Mother Jones a recording of him dictating a fond letter to Moon's lieutenant Bo Hi Pak, plotting to replace Vice-President Bush with Jerry Falwell on the 1988 ticket. To many Christians, Moon was offensive, preaching that Jesus failed and that he would clean up the mess.
But now that he's forged unbreakable ties with conservative Christians, Moon has moved on to African-American ministers, and, through them, allies in the Democratic Party. This has been below the radar of the press, but not for lack of outlandishness. Moon celebrated Easter Sunday, 2003 by launching a coast to coast series of "tear down the cross/Who is Rev. Moon?" events, targeting pastors in poor neighborhoods. From the Bronx to L.A., Moon's people were convincing pastors to pull the crosses off their walls and replace them with his Family Federation flag. An old hymn was invoked: "I'll trade the old cross for a crown."
To Congressmen attending earlier stops in this roadshow, all this mysticism may have seemed too murky and exotic to understand. But the storyline is simple enough, if you take a step back.
Moon's newest followers were invited to tear down the traditional symbol of Christianity, told they could swap it for a crown. But unlike the crown in the hymn, it wasn't for them. It was the one that Congressmen gave, March 23 at the Dirksen Senate Office Building, to a wealthy right-wing newspaper owner, one described by Time magazine in 1976 as "megalomaniacal," not much of an exaggeration for someone who claims to be the Second Coming. Unless of course he actually is.
The next day, according to a speech posted to a Moon mailing list and Usenet by a Unification church webmaster, Damian Anderson, Moon said he was leaving the country. "True Father spent 34 years here in America to guide this country in the right way," he told followers. "Yesterday was the turning point." But you can't buy Moon's high opinion of your country so easily (he's called the U.S. "Satan's harvest").
America, he said, was on the road to its doom. Why? "Homo marriage."
Here's a link that will shoch the fuck out of you - especially if you are a Christian. Democrat, Republican push Moon's dreams on the floor of Congress
Mr. DAVIS of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to express my commitment to world peace and to stress the importance of establishing dialogue and understanding among all people. It is in recognition of this need that on Tuesday, June 24, at 6:30 p.m. in the Rayburn Room B338-340, the American Leadership Initiative will hold a special awards ceremony to honor great Americans from all 50 States who have demonstrated a commitment to peace. Many of my colleagues will join me and the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Weldon), co-chair, in giving tribute to some of the outstanding Americans from our districts. Members of the clergy, legislators, educators, business and community leaders will be among those honored with the ``Ambassadors for Peace Award-Excellence in Leadership.'' These committed citizens have been working to renew and strengthen our families and marriages, restore our communities, and rebuild our Nation and indeed our world. We are grateful to the founders of Ambassadors for Peace, the Reverend and Mrs. Sun Myung [Moon], for promoting the vision of world peace, and we commend them for their work.
These Ambassadors for Peace have become increasingly effective and relevant in their communities since the tragedy of 9-11. They have been working together to promote understanding among all faiths, particularly with Muslim, Jewish, and Christian leaders. With the realization that many of the tensions currently facing the world cannot be addressed without consideration of the religious implications involved, the Ambassadors for Peace have formed an American Interreligious Council. This council seeks to support and advise our Nation's leaders concerning the issues and challenges of seeking lasting peace. The American Interreligious Council is also part of the effort to create an international council of religious leaders. The members of this council will support the leaders of the United Nations as they work to resolve conflicts throughout the world. This body will provide a direct link between international leaders and the various religious peoples in their constituencies.
If there comes a point where the Republican Party realizes that they can not win in the election - they will try to take America by force. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there is a coup in the works as a backup plan should Republicans lose the election.
If the Republicans lose - they will not just walk away and hand over power. They will make a move to take America by force. And - we have to figure it out first and stop it before they succeed.
We must be prepared to defent America against a Reoublican coup. Right now the best way to do that is to try to out think them - to figure out the plan and expost it before they can use it. I suspect that they are still figuring it out and that they are putting the pieces in place now. And - these people are sloppy.
If we watch carefully enough we should be able to figure it out in time. But we have to start looking now - looking hard - and making the right moves. If anyone doubts that the Republicans are ruthless enough to do this - just look at what they've done so far. It's pretty obvious to be the direction they are heading based on what they have done already.
Bush and his ilk are a threat to the entire civilized world and is a greater threat that bin Laden or any other terrorist. He attacks countries without provocation. He wanted to use nuclear weapons in Iraq. He authorized the use of torture and under his command children were raped in Abu Griab prison in front of their parents. (Video of that coming soon)
There is nothing that Bush and the GOP won't do to hold onto power. And - I don't know what to do except sound the alert and hope that the alert spreads to the point where when the time comes and the shit goes down that we will be ready for it.
Like I said - if this sounds tin foil hat to you - I say - lok at what they have done so far and you tell me - is this not a serious possibility that is at least worthy of discussion and being alert? Bush puts out fake terror alerts all the time and there's not doubt at all that this alert is a lot more real than his alerts are.
So - I say to you - join me in my paranoid delusion so that maybe America will wake up from the nightmare that we call reality and restore the dignaty of America as the leader in peace and freedom. I say it's time for America to get off the "war footing" and get on a "peace footing". But that's not going to happen until we get rid of our unelected dictator and take the firture of our planet from armegeddon and towards a better future where we move in a positive direction.
I remember during the Monica Lewinshy affair how the right wingers salivated over the impending demise of the clinton family. "Surely she will divorce him" they drooled waiting for the impending announcement that never came. That's because Clinton's marriage was much more solid than his Republican detractors like Rush Limbaugh.
Generally I don't revel in the misfortune of others - but I have a rule which is what I call the "hypocracy exception" - which in this case means that when Rush cheers at the downfall of others - it's ok to cheer at his downfall. This is so that an important point is made to warn other of the dark side of self richeousness and moral masturbation.
Some day it will be my turn but for now - let them eat crow!
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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh announced Friday that he and his wife, Marta, were divorcing.
The Limbaughs "mutually decided to end their marriage of 10 years" and have "separated pending an amicable resolution," according to a statement released by Limbaugh's publicist.
The couple shared a $24 million oceanfront mansion in nearby Palm Beach, from where Limbaugh often broadcast his daily three-hour show.
Spokesman Tony Knight said the matter was personal and declined further comment.
It was the third marriage for both Limbaugh, 53, and his 44-year-old wife, who were wed May 27, 1994 at the Virginia home of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Thomas officiated the ceremony.
Of course the media is grateful to Reagan because he's the one who turned media ownership over to the current right wing owners. As everyone tries to rewrite history in favor of a really sorry president, it doesn't seem to be helping the GOP hold on to power in the midst of the revelations that Bush authorized the torture and rape of children of Abu Griab - pictures soon to be released.
Finally their get the sucker into the ground and we can get back to reality.
Actually Gorbechev did.
Here's an exerpt from MSNBC Story where Gorbechev sets the record straight.
'We all lost'
But if he had warm, appreciative words for Reagan, Gorbachev brusquely dismissed the suggestion that Reagan had intimidated either him or the Soviet Union, or forced them to make concessions. Was it accurate to say that Reagan won the Cold War? "That's not serious," Gorbachev said, using the same words several times. "I think we all lost the Cold War, particularly the Soviet Union. We each lost $10 trillion," he said, referring to the money Russians and Americans spent on an arms race that lasted more than four decades. "We only won when the Cold War ended."
By Gorbachev's account, it was his early successes on the world stage that convinced the Americans that they had to deal with him and to match his fervor for arms control and other agreements that could reduce East-West tensions. "We had an intelligence report from Washington in 1987," he said, "reporting on a meeting of the National Security Council." Senior U.S. officials had concluded that Gorbachev's "growing credibility and prestige did not serve the interests of the United States" and had to be countered. A desire in Washington not to let him make too good an impression on the world did more to promote subsequent Soviet-American agreements than any American intimidation, he said. "They wanted to look good in terms of making peace and achieving arms control," he said of the Reagan administration.
The changes he wrought in the Soviet Union, from ending much of the official censorship to sweeping political and economic reforms, were undertaken not because of any foreign pressure or concern, Gorbachev said, but because Russia was dying under the weight of the Stalinist system. "The country was being stifled by the lack of freedom," he said. "We were increasingly behind the West, which . . . was achieving a new technological era, a new kind of productivity. . . . And I was ashamed for my country -- perhaps the country with the richest resources on Earth, and we couldn't provide toothpaste for our people."
I found this Special Song that expresses that way I feel at the tragic passing of Presinent Reagan. Please play this song and see it this special piece moves your soul the way it moved mine and expresses the mood that represents how I felt about the passing of President Reagan.
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I sent the link to my news media list with this message:
ok - I'm watching this week long Reagal Funeral Orgy that is trying to convert a truely bad president into a saint - capture his spirit and try to stuff him into George Bush. Reagan was not a great president and really accomplished very little that was positive. In my opinion firing the airline traffic controllers for their illegal strike was the high point of his carreer. I'm 48 years ols and I'm never going to see Social Security because of the Reagan debt. And - neither are you.
So - since we are reinventing history I feel that I need to bring the focus back to reality. There are a lot of us who truely resent Ronald Reagan and he was a very devicive president. He took political annomosity to a new level. He was openly insulting to people of good conscience who strongly disagreed with him on many issues and he fostered a spirit of hatred between "Liberals" and "Conservatives".
So "liberals" are enlightened and show respect for the dead, but - some liberals are not enlighened and are basically crude and insensitive. I am in the latter category - especially when conservatives are taking advantage of the sit\uation and turning it into an opportunity to use moonie like brain washing techniques to try to create a false record and obscure reality as it really is. Those to would rewrite history should first pay bach the $12,000 per person he ran up in debt with absolutely nothing to show for it. When I think about the Reagan legacy - I want to go out and burn a flag! So - having said that - here's the way the other half of America really feels.
Snagged this off of MSNBC - Torture.pdf
This is pretty interesting legal bullshit. It basically justifies everything Bush and the millitary does. It makes me wish I was a lawyer defending the guards at Abu Griab. This memo provides the perfect legal cover. Here's why:
The guards say that they were acting under orders and that they were doing so because they believed that they were saving lives by extracting valuable information - because they were told that was the reason.
Now - here's the test. Would a person reasonably believe their actions were justified under these circumstances? Normally this excuse wouldn't fly - but - because of this memo - it changes everything.
The guards can argue that they could reasonably believe it because the legal counsel to the President believed it - and would a lowly guard be expected to be smarter that the presidents lawyers? See where this is going? It's the "I can be expected to be smarter than the President" defense. I think it would work.
Seriously - if the President says it's legal - the secretary of defense says it's legal - the justice department says it's legal - the generals say it's legal - the commanding officers say it's legal - then how can a burger flipper who was called to duty - trained as a truck mechanic - and made a prison guard know that it's not legal?
The truth is - everyone from the President on down know that it was illegal - but they all lied to create a legal fiction to justify breaking the law. It's a plan where if enough higher ups break the law - and the congress and the supreme court is under Republican control - we know they are all going to get away with it. But if these legal theories had any validity then Hitler and Saddam Husein would be innocent. Begause what this memo says is that the President is above the law and can do whatever the hell he wants.
Letter to the Editor
I'm somewhat disturbed by the lack of sensitivity of Republican comparing Bash and Reagan. I was never a Reagan fan - but I don't see the comparison. Reagan would never have fabricated a fake war and got over 800 American killed. Reagan would never have allowed rape, torture, and murder at Abu Griab Prison and then try to cover it up. Reagan didn't have contempt for law and honesty the way Bush does. And - Reagan was a whole lot smarter than Bush. Why Republicans want to disgrace Reagan in this time of national morning by comparing him to Bush is a mystery to me.
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The US Attorney General refused to give lawmakers copies of a Justice Department memo that allegedly advised the White House that torture during 'war on terror' interrogations could be justified.
The Washington Post said an August 2002 memo sent by the Justice Department in response to a Central Intelligence Agency request for legal guidance said international laws against torture "may be unconstitutional if applied to interrogations" conducted in the war on terrorism.
But Attorney General John Ashcroft refused to provide the memo to lawmakers on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
"We believe that to provide this kind of information would impair the ability of advice-giving in the executive branch to be candid, forthright, thorough and accurate at all times," Ashcroft said.
Ashcroft told lawmakers that while "this administration rejects torture," he said he could not provide specific details of communications between his office and the White House.
"Congress has the right to ask whatever questions it wants," Ashcroft continued.
But, he said, "there are certain things that in the interest of the executive branch operating effectively that I think it's inappropriate for the Attorney General to say."
Democrats expressed outrage at Ashcroft's refusal to provide the document.
Of cource it's not like he directly said - go torture those people. That's not how these kind of orders are given. The president has to have his deniability, He has to be able to claim that - "I didn't know they were torturing people. I am like so shocked!"
So here's how this sort of thing works. The Bush legal team produces a memorandum that creates a justification for torture. And this happened. Under this memorandum "A team of administration lawyers concluded in a March 2003 legal memorandum that President Bush was not bound by either an international treaty prohibiting torture or by a federal antitorture law because he had the authority as commander in chief to approve any technique needed to protect the nation's security." According to an Article in the New York Times.
Basically - this says that Bush can throw out the Geneva Convention with merely a national security excuse.
It then creates cover of lower ranking officers. A reason would be if military personnel believed that they were acting on orders from superiors, the lawyers said.
"In order to respect the president's inherent constitutional authority to manage a military campaign," the lawyers wrote in the 56-page confidential memorandum, the prohibition against torture "must be construed as inapplicable to interrogation undertaken pursuant to his commander-in-chief authority."
Then - they go about trying to redefine what torture is. The March 6 document about torture provides tightly constructed definitions of torture. For example, if an interrogator "knows that severe pain will result from his actions, if causing such harm is not his objective, he lacks the requisite specific intent even though the defendant did not act in good faith," the report said. "Instead, a defendant is guilty of torture only if he acts with the express purpose of inflicting severe pain or suffering on a person within his control."
So - what this means is - if your primary objective is to get information or to obey your commanding officer respecting the chain of command - then what you are doing isn't really torture. It's only torture if you have no better reason than to cause pain.
And - buy saying "severe pain" they create another loophole as to what is severe. And - if the person causing the severe pain doesn't know it's severe - they would be immune.
And then where you torture is also significant. Accouding to the Times, "The March memorandum also contains a curious section in which the lawyers argued that any torture committed at Guantánamo would not be a violation of the anti-torture statute because the base was under American legal jurisdiction and the statute concerns only torture committed overseas. That view is in direct conflict with the position the administration has taken in the Supreme Court, where it has argued that prisoners at Guantánamo Bay are not entitled to constitutional protections because the base is outside American jurisdiction."
So - Gitmo is outside American jurisdiction? What a load of crap! Bet if I shot a general there that they would find plenty of jurisdiction to prosecute me. Or - would they? They'd just turture me without a trial.
The point - getting back to the main subject - is that this memorandum was circulated and only the extremely stupid would get the idea that this is an order from the president to start torturing prisoners. And - it is constructed in such a way that the further you go down the chain of command the more torture is required. It creates levels of willful ignorance so that if they are caught that combinations of "I didn't know what was happening" and "I was just following orders" could be used as a defense.
But putting aside the obuscations what is really happening here is that Bush and Rumsfield are war criminals and should be hauled in front of an international tribunal and tried for war crimes. Bush and Rumsfield didn't do anything that was substantially different that Saddam Hussein did. Saddam beats Bush only in quantity.
Of course we'll never see this happen because Bush is above the law. But being above the law doesn't make what you do legal. It merely means that you have a way of escaping justice. If anyone else on the planet did what Bush did they would be on trial as a war criminal. And even though Bush can escape justice doesn't mean that we can't at leat try him in the court of public opinion.
And for those who say that "Bush is innocent till proven guilty" I say that when someone is in a position of being above the law - then they can be guilty without being proven guilty bcause they are immune from the process of law.
I therefore declare Bush guilty was crimes against humanity because the evidence that he ordered the illegal tortures and violated International law is obvious.
There is no doubt in my mind that the turture hasn't stopped. I has just been moved to places where there are no cameras to take pictures and into countries where these kind of things go on. If we take a prisoner to Egypt to be tortured - it's no different in any way than if we are doing the torture ourselves.
This guy Max Black has posted a new web site outlining in detail everything leading up to the War in Iraq. Some of it goes back to Prescott Bush's Nazi days. I just can't stop reading it!!
If you like what you see - please link to http://www.iraqtimeline.com
Here's a sample"
The 1980s:
1980
Osama bin Laden provides help for the Afghan Mujaheddin and the CIA. Iran-Iraq War. The GOP's "October Surprise" leads to the election of Ronald Reagan as president.
1981
Hostages released. Reagan shot. Egypt's Anwar Sadat assassinated.
1982
US covert support of Iraq in its war with Iran. Sun Myung Moon becomes a media mogul and an ally of the GOP. Arbusto Oil and Spectrum 7.
1983
Promis/Inslaw scandal. 241 Marines die in Lebanon. Reagan envoy Donald Rumsfeld meets with Hussein to shore up US-Iraqi relations.
1984
Rumsfeld gives US approval for Iraqi chemical warfare. Osama bin Laden peddles arms and opium with CIA approval. Iran-Contra scandal brewing.
1985
CIA recruits radical Muslims to fight in Afghanistan. US swaps arms to Iran for hostages.
1986
The Clintons extricate themselves from Whitewater. Reagan illegally funds Nicaraguan Contras. Chernobyl. Harken Oil. Iran-Contra scandal breaks; Dick Cheney protects Vice President Bush. Reagan administration successfully blunts Iran-Contra investigation.
1987
Reagan admits involvement in Iran-Contra. USS Stark attacked by Iraq; US blames Iran. Robert Bork blocked from US Supreme Court, raising ire of conservatives.
1988
Rush Limbaugh begins broadcasting nationally. Operation Anfal in Iraq kills thousands of Kurds. Iran-Contra indictments. Halabjah massacre. Soviets begin withdrawing from Afghanistan. US directly attacks Iranian forces. Echelon launched. Al-Qaeda founded. Iran-Iraq war ends. Pan Am plane bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Islamic terrorists. George H.W. Bush becomes President.
1989
Prescott Bush ties with Japanese crime lords. Bush escalates secret support of Iraq. BCCI investigation. George W. Bush buys into Texas Rangers. Tiananmen Square protests in Beijing. Newt Gingrich successfully forces Jim Wright out of power. Berlin Wall falls. Noriega regime in Panama overthrown by US.
The 1990s:
1990
Harken Oil contracts to drill in Persian Gulf. US government gives Saddam Hussein green light to invade Kuwait. US falsifies evidence that Iraq is preparing to attack Saudi Arabia. Iraq invades Kuwait; Bush responds with "Operation Desert Shield." US falsifies evidence that Iraqi troops murdered Kuwaiti babies; the global outcry legitimizes US military escalation in Kuwait. Rabbi Meir Kahane assassinated.
1991
US invades Iraq: "Operation Desert Storm." US destroys Iraqi water supply, leading to the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis. Iraqi forces set oil fields ablaze. Entire invasion and "liberation" of Kuwait carefully stage-managed by GOP-hired public relations firms. After invasion, Hussein crushes Kurdish rebellion, which was encouraged by US. SEC investigates Harken Oil; investigation derailed by friends of Bush family. Coup in Russia leads to deposing of Mikhail Gorbachev and dissolution of USSR. Clarence Thomas named to Supreme Court. US military presence in Saudi Arabia infuriates Islamic radicals and leads to "jihad" against US.
1992
"Defense Planning Guidance" article lays out GOP foreign policy for next twenty years; primarily authored by Paul Wolfowitz, with input from Dick Cheney and other hawks. Bush sends troops to Somalia. Bill Clinton becomes President. George H.W. Bush pardons a number of convicted Iran-Contra figures.
1993
Clinton administration buries "October Surprise" evidence. Clinton is asked by Bush to back off on Iraq/BCCI investigation and agrees. WTC bombing. US foils assassination attempt on former president Bush. Branch Davidian debacle. White House travel office imbroglio demonstrates that conservatives are determined to destroy Clinton no matter what. Suicide of Vince Foster becomes a cause celebré among Clinton conspiracy mongers. A US military raid in Somalia goes awry, causing the deaths of 18 soldiers. Communist resistance to change in the former USSR is defeated. Whitewater investigation begins. "Troopergate," a bogus scandal concocted by right-wing media, hits the US press.
1994
Pentagon derails investigations into Gulf War syndrome. Donald Rumsfeld's firm supplies North Korea with uranium and nuclear technology; blame for North Korea's nuclear program will later be shifted onto Clinton. Paula Jones accuses Clinton of sexual impropriety. Robert Fiske finds nothing to Whitewater allegations, and is replaced by GOP hardliner Kenneth Starr. FBI buries evidence of Saudi involvement with Islamic terror groups. Taliban takes power in Afghanistan. George W. Bush becomes governor of Texas.
1995
Clinton administration continues to stonewall investigations into US connections to Iraq. White supremacist Timothy McVeigh bombs a federal building in Oklahoma, killing 168. Two congressional investigations find no evidence of criminal activity on the Clintons' involvement in Whitewater; Starr continues to investigate. BCCI investigation concludes. False offer of al-Qaeda information from Sudan. Dick Cheney's Halliburton Oil fined for doing business with terror sponsor Libya. Clinton-Lewinsky affair. Israel's Yitzhak Rabin assassinated. Newt Gingrich engineers shutdown of federal government. GOP Senator Orrin Hatch stonewalls investigation into FBI mistakes leading to 1993 WTC bombing. RTC clears Clintons of wrongdoing in Whitewater.
1996
Clinton launches aggressive anti-terrorism initiatives; GOP fights every step. Meeting between Osama bin Laden and Saudi Arabia. Khobar Towers bombing. Failed attempt by CIA to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Olympic bombing. FBI stymies investigation into Muslim terror fronts in US.
1997
Halliburton deals extensively with Iraq, in violation of US law. Project for New American Century founded. IAEA concludes that Iraq possesses no nuclear weapons program. Taliban negotiates with Unocal for pipeline construction in Afghanistan.
1998
Investigation into Clinton-Lewinsky affair mounts. Starr illegally redirects Whitewater investigation to encompass Lewinsky investigation. Paula Jones lawsuit against Clinton fizzles; judge rebukes "perjury trap." PNAC advocates military overthrow of Iraqi government. Starr commission proves to leak information to press to influence investigation. US missile attacks on terrorist groups in Tanzania and Afghanistan. Clinton authorizes assassination of bin Laden. CIA gives Clinton officials evidence of upcoming attacks by al-Qaeda on US targets involving hijacked airplanes. Starr Report. House impeaches Clinton over lying about Lewinsky affair. Gingrich resigns over marital affairs. "Operation Desert Fox."
1999
US payoffs to Taliban in order to secure oil pipeline rights. Anthrax mailings begin, with little media notice. Senate fails to vote to impeach Clinton. Iraq ambassador visits Sudan; the visit will later trigger false accusations that Iraq purchased uranium from Niger. Vice President Al Gore's comments about his sponsorship of Internet leglislation, and his comments on toxic spills and Love Canal, are misquoted, becoming source of allegations of Gore's "serial lying." Columbine High School massacre. GOP refuses to support Clinton administration's peacekeeping efforts in Balkans. George W. Bush presidential campaign whitewashes his military records. CIA plans to assassinate bin Laden fail. Starr resigns as head of investigation. Plethora of terror warnings.
A few months ago it was revealed that Cheney learned something from Reagan. "Ronald Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter."
Great lesson Dick!
Isn't it interesting that you don't hear Republicans talking about the deficit anymore. No longer do you hear the words "balanced budget". It looks to me like Republicans have abandoned fiscal responsibility from their platform.
Letter to the Editor
On Monday June 7th 2004 will be 1000 days since Osama bin Laden blew up the World Trade center on September 11th 2001. Bin Laden is still free and I can't help to think that he's not seriously being pursued. It seems to me that if America was REALLY focused on capturing bin Laden that he would be caught by now. Makes you wonder if Bush cut a deal with bin Laden and this war on terror is phony!
The Republican controlled press wants you to believe Kerry Flip Flops on everything. If Kerry stopped flip floping they would report "Kerry flip flops on flip flopping". But this is the same press that's trying to convince you that the economy is strong so take into account where it's coming from. The press is so stupid that they even think Bush is articulate!
Perhaps he did. This is the speech he gave for MoveOn.org If he only spoke like this when he was running in 2000 then maybe the country wouldn't be going to hell. Gore finially says it like it is and apologizes for shouting down people like me who were trying to speak out against the fraud of the election. Finally - Al Gore gets it.
Listen to Gore's Speech - 7mb - 1 hour
I want to thank CBS for airing the Enron tapes - but I can't help to notice that the rest of the media is virtually ignoring the issue. I remember the coverage of President Clinton where the employment of a 5th cousin was front page news for 2 months - but under Bush when they have tape recordings of Enron employees bragging about shuting down power to the entire west coast - and then doing so - and bragging about what a friend they have in Bush - well - Bush and his buddy "Kenny-boy" barely gets talked about.
This is what happens when Republicans own the press. Thankfully there is the Inernet where you can read the trurh from people like me.
Here's some of what Enron Employees said about California:
"He just fucks California," says one Enron employee. "He steals money from California to the tune of about a million.""Will you rephrase that?" asks a second employee.
"OK, he, um, he arbitrages the California market to the tune of a million bucks or two a day," replies the first.
The tapes, from Enron's West Coast trading desk, also confirm what CBS reported years ago: that in secret deals with power producers, traders deliberately drove up prices by ordering power plants shut down.
"If you took down the steamer, how long would it take to get it back up?" an Enron worker is heard saying.
"Oh, it's not something you want to just be turning on and off every hour. Let's put it that way," another says.
"Well, why don't you just go ahead and shut her down."
Officials with the Snohomish Public Utility District near Seattle received the tapes from the Justice Department.
"This is the evidence we've all been waiting for. This proves they manipulated the market," said Eric Christensen, a spokesman for the utility.
That utility, like many others, is trying to get its money back from Enron.
"They're fucking taking all the money back from you guys?" complains an Enron employee on the tapes. "All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?"
"Yeah, grandma Millie, man"
"Yeah, now she wants her fucking money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her asshole for fucking $250 a megawatt hour."
And the tapes appear to link top Enron officials Ken Lay and Jeffrey Skilling to schemes that fueled the crisis.
"Government Affairs has to prove how valuable it is to Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling," says one trader.
"Ok."
"Do you know when you started over-scheduling load and making buckets of money on that?
Before the 2000 election, Enron employees pondered the possibilities of a Bush win.
"It'd be great. I'd love to see Ken Lay Secretary of Energy," says one Enron worker.
That didn't happen, but they were sure President Bush would fight any limits on sky-high energy prices.
"When this election comes Bush will fucking whack this shit, man. He won't play this price-cap bullshit."
Crude, but true.
"We will not take any action that makes California's problems worse and that's why I oppose price caps," said Mr. Bush on May 29, 2001.
Employee 1: "All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?
Employee 2: "Yeah, Grandma Millie man.
Employee 1: "Yeah, now she wants her fucking money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her ass for fucking $250 a megawatt hour."
Employee 3: "This guy from the Wall Street Journal calls me up a little bit ago…"
Employee 4: "I wouldn't do it, because first of all you'd have to tell 'em a lot of lies because if you told the truth…"
Employee 3: "I'd get in trouble."
Employee 4: "You'd get in trouble."
"I'm just -- fuck -- I'm just trying to be an honest camper so I only go to jail once," says one employee.
Ashcroft is investigating Enron - but Enron gave $50,000 to Ashcroft in 2000 when he was running for US Senate in Missouri. Ashcroft got the money in the Republican Primary to defeat his Republican challenger and win the Republican primary and go on to lose the race to a dead man - Gov. Mel Carnahan - and his widow became the Senator.
For 100 brownie points and the "attaboy" award - name the republican challenger who lost to Ashcroft in the Missouri Republican Primary! Be the first to leave a comment naming that person! Who did Enron donate $57,000 to Ashcroft to defeat?
Here's and Interesting Article from MoveLeft that make you wonder why the American media is calling the sex acts with Iraqi prisoners "simulated sex" when it turns out the sex was quite real. What actually happened is rape and forced homosexual sex. For an administration who is so anti-gay - it seems they really like the butt fucking and cock sucking when it comes to torturing prisoners.
You have to wonder if Saddam is having the last laugh ....
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Real Torture, Real Sex, Real Electrodes at US Prisons in Iraq
by Eric Jaffa, May 30, 2004
The prisoners of the US in Iraq weren't just forced to simulate sex with each other, but forced to have homosexual sex with each other.
The electrodes weren't only used to threaten prisoners, but to electrically shock prisoners.
News reports have misleadingly said that Iraqi prisoners were forced to simulate sex acts. For example, the passage below from Time Magazine, uses the term “simulating” (“The Scandal's Growing Stain,” May 17, 2004, bold added).
Haider Sabbar Abed al-Abbadi kept his shame to himself until the world saw him stripped naked, his head in a hood, a nude fellow prisoner kneeling before him simulating oral sex. " That is me," he claims to a Time reporter, as one of the lurid photographs of detained Iraqis suffering sexual humiliation at the hands of U.S. soldiers scrolls down a computer screen. "I felt a mouth close around my penis. It was only when they took the bag off my head that I saw it was my friend." In the nine months he spent in detention, al-Abbadi says he was never charged and never interrogatedA careful reading of the above passage shows that the Iraqi prisoners were forced to have sex with each other. The reporter's use of the word "simulating" doesn't fit with the actual testimony of the former prisoner.
The 1600 photos which Senators and Congresspersons were allowed to view, but not the public, provide further evidence that prisoners were forced to have sex with each other ("Seattle Post Intelligencer," "New images 'disgust' Congress," May 13, 2004):
But the private images showed objects and behavior that were more graphic and diverse, including corpses, military dogs snarling at cowering prisoners, women commanded to expose their breasts, and sex acts, including forced homosexual sex.
Additionally, "the International Occupation Watch Centre, an NGO which gathers information on human rights abuses under coalition rule, said one former detainee has told of the alleged rape of her cellmate."
The forced sex between prisoners and rapes by guards, were real, not simulated.
The electrodes weren't just for show, either. They were used to electrically shock prisoners.
Amnesty International uses the term "war crimes" to describe the US treatment of Iraqi prisoners, writing:
Last July, the organization raised allegations of torture and ill-treatment of Iraqi detainees by US and Coalition forces in a memorandum to the US Government and Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in Iraq. The allegations included beatings, electric shocks, sleep deprivation, hooding, and prolonged forced standing and kneeling. It received no response nor any indication from the administration or the CPA that an investigation took place.A man named Saleh who is currently in Michigan was arrested by the US in Iraq and electrically shocked as a prisoner at Abu Ghraib.
Saleh was an opponent of Saddam Hussein who was tortured over a decade ago at Abu Ghraib under Saddam's rule, left Iraq and became a Swedish citizen, returned during the US occupation, and was randomly arrested by the US and again tortured at Abu Ghraib, this time by the US.
Saleh refers to being electrically shocked by the US while a prisoner at Abu Ghraib at the 2:42 mark of this mp3:
NPR report of May 20, 2004 in which Saleh describes being tortured by Americans at Abu Ghraib
Than New York Times printed a Very Interesting Article about the cease-fire between occupation forces and the militia of Moktada al-Sadr, the 31-year-old radical cleric
Apparently in spite of this cease file - American troops attacked a police station where there was heavy fighting. At some point they were passing out flyers containing two different excuses on why Moktada al-Sadr was killed in fighting. But - Moktada al-Sadr was not killed at all. They already had the flyers printed with the excuse before the planned killing but the killing never happened and someone screwed up and passed out the excuse anyhow.
The only thing I hate worse than liars is bad liars. BushCo needs to get his lying right. Here's the story:
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Iraqi officials have said the Americans were persuaded to compromise with Mr. Sadr last week by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's most influential cleric. Ayatollah Sistani lives close to the Shrine of Ali, and he had been growing increasingly concerned over the battles near that shrine and two other shrines in Karbala. On May 21, days after residents of Karbala protested in the streets at the urging of Ayatollah Sistani, American forces and insurgents withdrew from the city's center.
The cease-fire reached in Najaf on Thursday did not require Mr. Sadr to disband his militia or to submit to an arrest warrant that an Iraqi judge had issued in connection with the killing in April of Abdul Majid al-Khoei, an American-backed cleric who had returned from exile to Najaf.
Meanwhile on Sunday, people in the streets of Najaf were handed mysterious fliers with Mr. Sadr's picture that said "Moktada (al Sadr) was followed by the Iraqi police for his ties to the slaying of Khoei, and due to violent actions he was killed during an attempt to arrest him."
Another flier had a photo of Iraqi policemen and the words "The Justice Ministry tried to arrest Mr. Sadr, but he and his followers resisted fiercely, which drove the Iraqi police to defend themselves."
The fliers appeared to have been made by Iraq's Justice Ministry or its allies to be handed out in case Iraqi policemen killed Mr. Sadr. Somehow, they were distributed prematurely. There were no reports of Mr. Sadr's death.
Mr. Sadr's office also issued a conciliatory statement to Sadr al-Din al-Kubanchi, a prominent cleric linked to the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, or Sciri, an influential Shiite party. On Friday, gunmen shot at Mr. Kubanchi outside the Shrine of Ali, but he was unhurt. Members of Mr. Sadr's militia captured one of the attackers, but did not turn him over to the Badr Organization, Sciri's armed wing.
That led Sciri officials to accuse Mr. Sadr and his militia of organizing the attack and then trying to cover it up. Mr. Kubanchi has denounced both Mr. Sadr and the occupation forces in recent sermons.
In his statement, Mr. Sadr denied any role in the attack. "I send my greetings and my willingness to meet you and my brothers in Sciri and the Badr Organization," he said. "You can hold your weekly Friday Prayer, and I am ready to attend it hand in hand with you to ensure your safety."
Well - sort of. The New York Times is trying to say they made a mistake blaming their twisted coverage of Iraq on a few low level reporters and supervisors not paying attention to what they were doing. Sound familiar? The NYT is using the Abu Graib defense - it wasn't a conspiracy - the higher ups didn't know - just a few bad apples at the bottom caused all the trouble. But unlike Abu Graib - the New York Times isn't even going to court martial the offending reporters! I'm surprised that they didn't compare the number of words they got right to the number they got wrong.
The truth is that the NYT was a full partner with the Bush administration in promoting and selling this war. Over 800 of our soldiers died and thousands more wounded and tens of thousands of innocent Iraquis were killed not only by Bush - but by his media conspirators. The highly profitable paper got their tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the future of America.
This was no simple mistake that one can simply say sorry to and walk away. The act was deliberate - calculated - and in concert with CNN, Fox News, the Moonie owned Washington Times, and the rest of the Republican controlled media who publicly fired and humiliated journalists who wrote about the truth and refused to join the NeoCon's Crusade of Misinformation. In my view the NYT has rizen to the level of criminal conduct.
The reporter for whom the NYT is apologizing for are still employed there and are busy bringing you more right wing disinformation. For all we know - they are the onse who wrote the apology piece - which is little more than a propaganda ploy to regain the reader's trust so that they can lie to you again. The laest the NYT can do is fire the reporters who brought America this war the way they fire reporters who bring America the Truth!
Fortunately through all of this it has turned out that the truth about what is really happening can be found on the Internet by independent journalists like Bartcop who unlike the "legitimate" media actually got the stories right. ne thing to be learned from the whole affair is - who do you trust? Who gets the story right? And it would seem that journalistic resources don't mean anything if the organization has more of a commitment to a political ajenda - as the New York Times does - than it is commited to the truth.
New York Times apology below as swiped from their web site.
From he New York Times
Over the last year this newspaper has shone the bright light of hindsight on decisions that led the United States into Iraq. We have examined the failings of American and allied intelligence, especially on the issue of Iraq's weapons and possible Iraqi connections to international terrorists. We have studied the allegations of official gullibility and hype. It is past time we turned the same light on ourselves.
In doing so — reviewing hundreds of articles written during the prelude to war and into the early stages of the occupation — we found an enormous amount of journalism that we are proud of. In most cases, what we reported was an accurate reflection of the state of our knowledge at the time, much of it painstakingly extracted from intelligence agencies that were themselves dependent on sketchy information. And where those articles included incomplete information or pointed in a wrong direction, they were later overtaken by more and stronger information. That is how news coverage normally unfolds.
But we have found a number of instances of coverage that was not as rigorous as it should have been. In some cases, information that was controversial then, and seems questionable now, was insufficiently qualified or allowed to stand unchallenged. Looking back, we wish we had been more aggressive in re-examining the claims as new evidence emerged — or failed to emerge.
The problematic articles varied in authorship and subject matter, but many shared a common feature. They depended at least in part on information from a circle of Iraqi informants, defectors and exiles bent on "regime change" in Iraq, people whose credibility has come under increasing public debate in recent weeks. (The most prominent of the anti-Saddam campaigners, Ahmad Chalabi, has been named as an occasional source in Times articles since at least 1991, and has introduced reporters to other exiles. He became a favorite of hard-liners within the Bush administration and a paid broker of information from Iraqi exiles, until his payments were cut off last week.) Complicating matters for journalists, the accounts of these exiles were often eagerly confirmed by United States officials convinced of the need to intervene in Iraq. Administration officials now acknowledge that they sometimes fell for misinformation from these exile sources. So did many news organizations — in particular, this one.
Some critics of our coverage during that time have focused blame on individual reporters. Our examination, however, indicates that the problem was more complicated. Editors at several levels who should have been challenging reporters and pressing for more skepticism were perhaps too intent on rushing scoops into the paper. Accounts of Iraqi defectors were not always weighed against their strong desire to have Saddam Hussein ousted. Articles based on dire claims about Iraq tended to get prominent display, while follow-up articles that called the original ones into question were sometimes buried. In some cases, there was no follow-up at all.
On Oct. 26 and Nov. 8, 2001, for example, Page 1 articles cited Iraqi defectors who described a secret Iraqi camp where Islamic terrorists were trained and biological weapons produced. These accounts have never been independently verified.
On Dec. 20, 2001, another front-page article began, "An Iraqi defector who described himself as a civil engineer said he personally worked on renovations of secret facilities for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in underground wells, private villas and under the Saddam Hussein Hospital in Baghdad as recently as a year ago." Knight Ridder Newspapers reported last week that American officials took that defector — his name is Adnan Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri — to Iraq earlier this year to point out the sites where he claimed to have worked, and that the officials failed to find evidence of their use for weapons programs. It is still possible that chemical or biological weapons will be unearthed in Iraq, but in this case it looks as if we, along with the administration, were taken in. And until now we have not reported that to our readers.
On Sept. 8, 2002, the lead article of the paper was headlined "U.S. Says Hussein Intensified Quest for A-Bomb Parts." That report concerned the aluminum tubes that the administration advertised insistently as components for the manufacture of nuclear weapons fuel. The claim came not from defectors but from the best American intelligence sources available at the time. Still, it should have been presented more cautiously. There were hints that the usefulness of the tubes in making nuclear fuel was not a sure thing, but the hints were buried deep, 1,700 words into a 3,600-word article. Administration officials were allowed to hold forth at length on why this evidence of Iraq's nuclear intentions demanded that Saddam Hussein be dislodged from power: "The first sign of a `smoking gun,' they argue, may be a mushroom cloud."
Five days later, The Times reporters learned that the tubes were in fact a subject of debate among intelligence agencies. The misgivings appeared deep in an article on Page A13, under a headline that gave no inkling that we were revising our earlier view ("White House Lists Iraq Steps to Build Banned Weapons"). The Times gave voice to skeptics of the tubes on Jan. 9, when the key piece of evidence was challenged by the International Atomic Energy Agency. That challenge was reported on Page A10; it might well have belonged on Page A1.
On April 21, 2003, as American weapons-hunters followed American troops into Iraq, another front-page article declared, "Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert." It began this way: "A scientist who claims to have worked in Iraq's chemical weapons program for more than a decade has told an American military team that Iraq destroyed chemical weapons and biological warfare equipment only days before the war began, members of the team said."
The informant also claimed that Iraq had sent unconventional weapons to Syria and had been cooperating with Al Qaeda — two claims that were then, and remain, highly controversial. But the tone of the article suggested that this Iraqi "scientist" — who in a later article described himself as an official of military intelligence — had provided the justification the Americans had been seeking for the invasion.
The Times never followed up on the veracity of this source or the attempts to verify his claims.
A sample of the coverage, including the articles mentioned here, is online at nytimes.com/critique. Readers will also find there a detailed discussion written for The New York Review of Books last month by Michael Gordon, military affairs correspondent of The Times, about the aluminum tubes report. Responding to the review's critique of Iraq coverage, his statement could serve as a primer on the complexities of such intelligence reporting.
We consider the story of Iraq's weapons, and of the pattern of misinformation, to be unfinished business. And we fully intend to continue aggressive reporting aimed at setting the record straight.
The following is a sampling of articles published by The Times about the decisions that led the United States into the war in Iraq, and especially the issue of Iraq's weapons:
The alleged Iraqi terrorist training camps, and Al Qaeda connection:
• October 26, 2001: Czechs Confirm Iraqi Agent Met With Terror Ringleader
• November 8, 2001: Defectors Cite Iraqi Training for Terrorism
The accounts of the terrorist training camp have not subsequently been verified.
On the subject of the meeting in Prague, a Times follow-up cast serious doubt:
• October 21, 2002: Prague Discounts An Iraqi Meeting
The hidden weapons facilities:
• December 20, 2001: Iraqi Tells of Renovations at Sites for Chemical and Nuclear Arms
According to Knight Ridder News, this scientist was taken back to Iraq earlier this year for a tour of sites where he worked. None of the sites showed evidence of illegal weapons activity.
• Follow-up: January 24, 2003: Defectors Bolster U.S. Case Against Iraq
The aluminum tubes:
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September 8, 2002: U.S. Says Hussein Intensified Quest For A-Bomb Parts
• September 13, 2002: White House Lists Iraq Steps To Build Banned Weapons
• January 10, 2003: Agency Challenges Evidence Against Iraq Cited By Bush
• January 28, 2003: Report's Findings Undercut U.S. Argument
For a discussion of this coverage by Michael R. Gordon, chief military correspondent of The Times, see this letter from April 8, 2004.
The Iraqi scientist and destruction of weapons:
• April 21, 2003:Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert
Follow-ups:
• April 23, 2003: Focus Shifts From Weapons To the People Behind Them
• April 24: U.S.-Led Forces Occupy Baghdad Complex Filled with Chemical Agents
• July 20, 2003: A Chronicle of Confusion in the Hunt for Hussein's Weapons
The "biological weapons labs":
This is one example of a claim that was quickly and prominently challenged by additional reporting
• May 21, 2003: U.S. Analysts Link Iraq Labs to Germ Arms
The story left the impression that the Administration claims represented a consensus, because we did not know otherwise. By June 7, however, the same reporters, having dug deeper, published a front-page story describing the strong views of dissenting intelligence analysts that the trailers were not bio-weapons labs, and suggesting that the Administration may have strained to make the evidence fit its case for war. (Last Sunday, Mr. Powell conceded that the C.I.A. was misled about the trailers, apparently by an Iraqi defector.)
• June 7, 2003: Some Analysts of Iraq Trailers Reject Germ Use
• June 26, 2003: Agency Disputes C.I.A. View on Trailers as Weapons Labs
Raising doubts about intelligence:
Following are examples of stories that cast doubt on key claims about Iraq's weapons programs, and on the reliability of some defectors.
• October 9, 2002: Aides Split on Assessment of Iraq's Plans
• October 24, 2002: A C.I.A. Rival; Pentagon Sets up Intelligence Unit
• March 23, 2003: C.I.A. Aides Feel Pressure in Preparing Iraqi Reports
• July 20, 2003: In Sketchy Data, Trying to Gauge Iraq Threat
• September 28, 2003: Agency Belittles Information Given By Iraqi Defectors
• February 1, 2004: Powell's Case a Year Later: Gaps in Picture of Iraq Arms"
• February 7, 2004: Agency Alert About Iraqi Not Heeded, Officials Say
• February 13, 2004: Stung by Exiles's Role, C.I.A. Orders a Shift in Procedures
• March 6, 2004: U.S., Certain That Iraq Had Illicit Arms, Reportedly Ignored Contrary Reports
• January 26, 2004:Ex-Inspector Says C.I.A. Missed Disarray in Iraqi Arms Program
• May 22, 2003: Prewar Views of Iraq Threat Are Under Review by C.I.A.
• Feb. 2, 2003: Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. on Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda
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New York Times - THE PUBLIC EDITOR
Weapons of Mass Destruction? Or Mass Distraction?
By DANIEL OKRENT - May 30, 2004
FROM the moment this office opened for business last December, I felt I could not write about what had been published in the paper before my arrival. Once I stepped into the past, I reasoned, I might never find my way back to the present.
Early this month, though, convinced that my territory includes what doesn't appear in the paper as well as what does, I began to look into a question arising from the past that weighs heavily on the present: Why had The Times failed to revisit its own coverage of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction? To anyone who read the paper between September 2002 and June 2003, the impression that Saddam Hussein possessed, or was acquiring, a frightening arsenal of W.M.D. seemed unmistakable. Except, of course, it appears to have been mistaken. On Tuesday, May 18, I told executive editor Bill Keller I would be writing today about The Times's responsibility to address the subject. He told me that an internal examination was already under way; we then proceeded independently and did not discuss it further. The results of The Times's own examination appeared in last Wednesday's paper, and can be found online at nytimes.com/critique
I think they got it right. Mostly. (I do question the placement: as one reader asked, "Will your column this Sunday address why the NYT buried its editors' note - full of apologies for burying stories on A10 - on A10?")
Some of The Times's coverage in the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq was credulous; much of it was inappropriately italicized by lavish front-page display and heavy-breathing headlines; and several fine articles by David Johnston, James Risen and others that provided perspective or challenged information in the faulty stories were played as quietly as a lullaby. Especially notable among these was Risen's "C.I.A. Aides Feel Pressure in Preparing Iraqi Reports," which was completed several days before the invasion and unaccountably held for a week. It didn't appear until three days after the war's start, and even then was interred on Page B10.
The Times's flawed journalism continued in the weeks after the war began, when writers might have broken free from the cloaked government sources who had insinuated themselves and their agendas into the prewar coverage. I use "journalism" rather than "reporting" because reporters do not put stories into the newspaper. Editors make assignments, accept articles for publication, pass them through various editing hands, place them on a schedule, determine where they will appear. Editors are also obliged to assign follow-up pieces when the facts remain mired in partisan quicksand.
The apparent flimsiness of "Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert," by Judith Miller (April 21, 2003), was no less noticeable than its prominent front-page display; the ensuing sequence of articles on the same subject, when Miller was embedded with a military unit searching for W.M.D., constituted an ongoing minuet of startling assertion followed by understated contradiction. But pinning this on Miller alone is both inaccurate and unfair: in one story on May 4, editors placed the headline "U.S. Experts Find Radioactive Material in Iraq" over a Miller piece even though she wrote, right at the top, that the discovery was very unlikely to be related to weaponry.
The failure was not individual, but institutional.
When I say the editors got it "mostly" right in their note this week, the qualifier arises from their inadequate explanation of the journalistic imperatives and practices that led The Times down this unfortunate path. There were several.
THE HUNGER FOR SCOOPS Even in the quietest of times, newspaper people live to be first. When a story as momentous as this one comes into view, when caution and doubt could not be more necessary, they can instead be drowned in a flood of adrenalin. One old Times hand recently told me there was a period in the not-too-distant past when editors stressed the maxim "Don't get it first, get it right." That soon mutated into "Get it first and get it right." The next devolution was an obvious one.
War requires an extra standard of care, not a lesser one. But in The Times's W.M.D. coverage, readers encountered some rather breathless stories built on unsubstantiated "revelations" that, in many instances, were the anonymity-cloaked assertions of people with vested interests. Times reporters broke many stories before and after the war - but when the stories themselves later broke apart, in many instances Times readers never found out. Some remain scoops to this day. This is not a compliment.
FRONT-PAGE SYNDROME There are few things more maligned in newsroom culture than the "on the one hand, on the other hand" story, with its exquisitely delicate (and often soporific) balancing. There are few things more greedily desired than a byline on Page 1. You can "write it onto 1," as the newsroom maxim has it, by imbuing your story with the sound of trumpets. Whispering is for wimps, and shouting is for the tabloids, but a terrifying assertion that may be the tactical disinformation of a self-interested source does the trick.
"Intelligence Break Led U.S. to Tie Envoy Killing to Iraq Qaeda Cell," by Patrick E. Tyler (Feb. 6, 2003) all but declared a direct link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein - a link still to be conclusively established, more than 15 months later. Other stories pushed Pentagon assertions so aggressively you could almost sense epaulets sprouting on the shoulders of editors.
HIT-AND-RUN JOURNALISM The more surprising the story, the more often it must be revisited. If a defector like Adnan Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri is hailed by intelligence officials for providing "some of the most valuable information" about chemical and biological laboratories in Iraq ("Defectors Bolster U.S. Case Against Iraq, Officials Say," by Judith Miller, Jan. 24, 2003), unfolding events should have compelled the paper to re-examine those assertions, and hold the officials publicly responsible if they did not pan out.
In that same story anonymous officials expressed fears that Haideri's relatives in Iraq "were executed as a message to potential defectors."
Were they? Did anyone go back to ask? Did anything Haideri say have genuine value? Stories, like plants, die if they are not tended. So do the reputations of newspapers.
CODDLING SOURCES There is nothing more toxic to responsible journalism than an anonymous source. There is often nothing more necessary, too; crucial stories might never see print if a name had to be attached to every piece of information. But a newspaper has an obligation to convince readers why it believes the sources it does not identify are telling the truth. That automatic editor defense, "We're not confirming what he says, we're just reporting it," may apply to the statements of people speaking on the record. For anonymous sources, it's worse than no defense. It's a license granted to liars.
The contract between a reporter and an unnamed source - the offer of information in return for anonymity - is properly a binding one. But I believe that a source who turns out to have lied has breached that contract, and can fairly be exposed. The victims of the lie are the paper's readers, and the contract with them supersedes all others. (See Chalabi, Ahmad, et al.) Beyond that, when the cultivation of a source leads to what amounts to a free pass for the source, truth takes the fall. A reporter who protects a source not just from exposure but from unfriendly reporting by colleagues is severely compromised. Reporters must be willing to help reveal a source's misdeeds; information does not earn immunity. To a degree, Chalabi's fall from grace was handled by The Times as if flipping a switch; proper coverage would have been more like a thermostat, constantly taking readings and then adjusting to the surrounding reality. (While I'm on the subject: Readers were never told that Chalabi's niece was hired in January 2003 to work in The Times's Kuwait bureau. She remained there until May of that year.)
END-RUN EDITING Howell Raines, who was executive editor of the paper at the time, denies that The Times's standard procedures were cast aside in the weeks before and after the war began. (Raines's statement on the subject, made to The Los Angeles Times, may be read at poynter.org/forum/?id=misc#raines.)
But my own reporting (I have spoken to nearly two dozen current and former Times staff members whose work touched on W.M.D. coverage) has convinced me that a dysfunctional system enabled some reporters operating out of Washington and Baghdad to work outside the lines of customary bureau management.
In some instances, reporters who raised substantive questions about certain stories were not heeded. Worse, some with substantial knowledge of the subject at hand seem not to have been given the chance to express reservations. It is axiomatic in newsrooms that any given reporter's story, tacked up on a dartboard, can be pierced by challenges from any number of colleagues. But a commitment to scrutiny is a cardinal virtue. When a particular story is consciously shielded from such challenges, it suggests that it contains something that plausibly should be challenged.
Readers have asked why The Times waited so long to address the issues raised in Wednesday's statement from the editors. I suspect that Keller and his key associates may have been reluctant to open new wounds when scabs were still raw on old ones, but I think their reticence made matters worse. It allowed critics to form a powerful chorus; it subjected staff members under criticism (including Miller) to unsubstantiated rumor and specious charges; it kept some of the staff off balance and distracted.
The editors' note to readers will have served its apparent function only if it launches a new round of examination and investigation. I don't mean further acts of contrition or garment-rending, but a series of aggressively reported stories detailing the misinformation, disinformation and suspect analysis that led virtually the entire world to believe Hussein had W.M.D. at his disposal.
No one can deny that this was a drama in which The Times played a role. On Friday, May 21, a front-page article by David E. Sanger ("A Seat of Honor Lost to Open Political Warfare") elegantly characterized Chalabi as "a man who, in lunches with politicians, secret sessions with intelligence chiefs and frequent conversations with reporters from Foggy Bottom to London's Mayfair, worked furiously to plot Mr. Hussein's fall." The words "from The Times, among other publications" would have fit nicely after "reporters" in that sentence. The aggressive journalism that I long for, and that the paper owes both its readers and its own self-respect, would reveal not just the tactics of those who promoted the W.M.D. stories, but how The Times itself was used to further their cunning campaign.
In 1920, Walter Lippmann and Charles Merz wrote that The Times had missed the real story of the Bolshevik Revolution because its writers and editors "were nervously excited by exciting events." That could have been said about The Times and the war in Iraq. The excitement's over; now the work begins.
The public editor is the readers' representative. His opinions and conclusions are his own. His column appears at least twice monthly in this section.
John Ashcroft's terror warning this last week was fake and no more than a political stunt to attempt to distract attention away from the administrations incompetence. Interestingly enough - it only highlighted the incompetence.
According to MSNBC Ashcroft's sources were know to not be credible. It came from a group that claims responsibility for everything.
John Ashcroft is putting Americans at risk issuing these fake warnings because once people know he's doing that then people are likely to ignore a real warning. John Ashcroft's actions serve the goals of our enemies and not Americans.
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Terror threat source called into question
Ashcroft cites al-Qaida plan, but how credible is the information?
By Lisa Myers
Senior investigative correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 6:57 p.m. ET May 28, 2004
WASHINGTON - Earlier this week Attorney General John Ashcroft warned of an attack planned on America for sometime in the coming months. That may happen, but NBC News has learned one of Ashcroft’s sources is highly suspect.
In warning Americans to brace for a possible attack, Ashcroft cited what he called “credible intelligence from multiple sources,” saying that “just after New Year's, al-Qaida announced openly that preparations for an attack on the United States were 70 percent complete.… After the March 11 attack in Madrid, Spain, an al-Qaida spokesman announced that 90 percent of the arrangements for an attack in the United States were complete.”
But terrorism experts tell NBC News there's no evidence a credible al-Qaida spokesman ever said that, and the claims actually were made by a largely discredited group, Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, known for putting propaganda on the Internet.
“This particular group is not really taken seriously by Western intelligence,” said terrorism expert M.J. Gohel of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, an international policy assessment group. “It does not appear to have any real field operational capability. But it is certainly part of the global jihad movement — part of its propaganda wing, if you like. It likes to weave a web of lies; it likes to put out disinformation so that the truth is deeply buried. So it is a dangerous group in that sense, but it is not taken seriously in terms of its operational capability.”
The group has claimed responsibility for the power blackout in the Northeast last year, a power outage in London and the Madrid bombing. None of the claims was found to be credible.
Fed Orders Riggs Bank Over Laundering
Fri May 14, 5:12 PM ET
By MARCY GORDON, AP Business Writer
WASHINGTON - The Federal Reserve (news - web sites) ordered Riggs Bank's parent company Friday to take steps to prevent money laundering after the bank was fined $25 million in connection with a probe into possible links to terrorism financing.
The action came a day after Treasury Department (news - web sites) regulators levied the record-setting fine against Riggs for its handling of millions of dollars in foreign-held accounts.
In a cease-and-desist order issued by the central bank, Riggs will have to take actions such as hiring an independent consultant to conduct a review. Its operation in Miami — which Riggs plans to close — will be required to retain an outside consultant to review previous account transactions for suspicious activity.
The Federal Reserve has jurisdiction over bank holding companies. The Atlanta Fed had previously advised Riggs's Miami-based subsidiary of deficiencies in its compliance with laws to prevent money laundering, the order noted.
Riggs is a midsize Washington bank with a near-exclusive franchise on business with the capital's diplomatic community.
Credit-rating agency Standard & Poor's said that the fine, combined with anticipated restructuring charges of $15 million to $21 million in the April-June quarter, "should result in a large loss in the second quarter and prevent Riggs from being profitable for the year."
Standard & Poor's and other agencies have recently downgraded their ratings of Riggs, reflecting what S&P on Friday called "continued profitability pressures and regulatory uncertainty."
Treasury's Office of the Comptroller of the Currency issued the fine in an order made public late Thursday, after weeks of negotiations between Riggs officials and banking regulators.
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Dudley Elected Chairman of Riggs Investment Management Subsidiary; Bush to Serve as President & CEO
Washington, D.C., May 31, 2000 - Riggs Bank N.A. today announced that the Board of Directors of RIMCO, a wholly owned investment management subsidiary, has elected Jonathan J. Bush President & Chief Executive Officer and a Director, replacing Philip Tasho who resigned. In addition, Henry A. Dudley, Jr. was elected Chairman.
Mr. Bush will continue as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of J. Bush & Co., an investment management company he founded in 1970, which Riggs acquired in 1997. Mr. Dudley, a 24-year veteran of Riggs, will continue to be responsible for all of Riggs Bank's investment management, trust and private banking business.
Located in the nation's capital, Riggs Bank has 53 branches in the Washington, DC metropolitan area, as well as banking offices in Miami, London and Berlin.
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Jonathan J. Bush (Jonathan James Bush) (1931- ) is an uncle to President George Walker Bush.
A Wall Street financier, Jonathan Bush pulled together two dozen investors to raise $3 million to help launch Arbusto. Among the investors was Dorothy Bush, George W.’s grandmother. At the same time, Jonathan Bush was lining up investors for Arbusto, he also was raising money for George H.W. Bush’s presidential explorations. Many of the funders were the same.
Bush is a Trustee of the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation.
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Bush wants to waste taxpayers money by tearing down Abu Ghraib Prison because of the US torture scandal and build a new prison at our expense. I find it amazing that Bush thinks that rape, torture, and murder problem can be solved by tearing down a building. If that kind of reasoning made sense them maybe we should tear down the Whitehouse to solve the national debt.
Letter to the Editor
Republicans are facing tough choices this election year. More pictures and videos are surfacing that document atrocities at prisons in Iraq. We are seeing rape, sodomy, torture, and the murdering of prisoners in US custody. It is now believed that the orders to commit these war crimes came directly from the White House.
So what do Republicans do? Do they stick with the President and try to downplay these extremely graphic pictures? Or do they put the interests of Americans first and get to the bottom of this? Will Republicans like John McCain do what's right - or will he sell out to election year politics? Time for McCain to put his money where his mouth is. I challenge McCain's honesty.
OK - we may have the smoking gun in the Berg video that proves the Nick Berg was killed by Americans at Abu Ghraib prison. In addition to all the other evidence that I posted on my blog, I have been seeing some messages that if proved to be so answers the question as to who really killed Berg.
There has been a semi-secret government initiative to add digital signatures to various digital consumer products. Photocopiers and digital cameras store an encrypted signature to identify the unit that made the video. This digitial signature is totally inique to each device and is more unique than a fingerprint.
Today new pictures were released of prison torture at Abu Ghraib prison. But not just still pictures. Today video was released showing prisoners being tortured by Americans. Aparently Kodak film experts are Kodak Park in Rochester New York have compared the digital watermarks of the turture video and the beheading video and have determined that one of the cameras used in the Nick Berg beheading is THE SAME CAMERA that took the prison torture video.
If this turns out to be true then there is NO DOUBT that Berg was killed by Americans at Abu Ghraib prison.
I urge all of you to press to find out if this story is actually true, and if so - HOLY SHIT !!!
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/article.php?id=2785
It would appear that I am not the only one wearing a tin foil hat. A lot of other people are raising the same questions I've been raising about the Nick Berg beheading. This article doesn't go as for as I did to conclude Americans did it - but they take you right up to the edge of that conclusion.
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The video of execution of American hostage Nick Berg in Iraq is threatening to develop into a major scandal. During a press conference the father of the beheaded American accused Bush and Rumsfeld of killing his son. There are more and more suspicions that Nick Berg was really executed not by Arab militants, but by the US intelligence services in order to divert the attention from the scandal about the tortures in Baghdad prison.
First there was a report that a video showing an execution of an American expert captured in Iraq was shown on a so-called 'Islamic extremist' website. It was reported that the execution was carried out by a group of guerillas tied to Al-Qaeda in order to take revenge for the tortures that the American soldiers did to Iraqi inmates.
The video shows five men, whose faces are hidden behind black masks and traditional Arab scarves. They all are standing around a tied-up man with an orange suit on, the kind of suit inmates wear. The victim says to the camera: «My name is Nick Berg, my father’s name is Michael, my mother’s name is Susan. I have a brother and a sister, David and Sarah. I live in Philadelphia».
After these words they got him down on the floor, put a big knife to his throat and cut his head off, while screaming 'Allah Akbar' ('God is Great'). The video footage was called «Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi shows killing of an American». A day before the video was shown, Mr. Berg’s parents were told that their son’s body was found near a highway in Baghdad. The scene of the execution and the comments on it were the number one news in the world’s mass media for some time.
Then the CIA experts released a statement saying that Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was the man in mask who beheaded the US citizen Nick Berg in front of a camera. Then Western commentators and moralists took over and launched a campaign to vindicate the Americans exposed for torturing Iraqi inmates.
Compared to the brutal murder of an American with cutting his head off, the tortures of Iraqis in prisons started looking like minor pranks of undisciplined soldiers. Another factor was that the beheaded victim was a Jew, which was picked up by the Zionists immediately to justify their actions and to show what kind of enemy they have to be dealing with.
However, so many questions arose about the videotape that all accusers of so-called 'Islamists' got quiet right away and the subject disappeared from the agenda in the world’s media.
Many questions came up, and they are all pointing out that the accusations by Mr. Berg’s father against the US authorities on killing his son have very serious grounds.
The first suspicion was caused by a video where Berg was wearing an orange American jail suit. Berg was arrested by the Americans and had time to tell his friend that he was in an American prison. Intelligence services were denying this and were saying that Berg was arrested by the Iraqi police for Israeli stamps in his passport. But later on it turned out that he was questioned by Americans, and FBI agents came to his parents’ house to find out whether he was involved in any terrorist activities.
Berg’s e-mail showed that he was held in custody by the Americans. Turned out that an American was held in an American prison and beheaded right after he was presumably released.
In this connection there is a question whether the American was released from prison at all. If he was, and if he was late for his flight because of the arrest, as his parents first claimed, then why he ended up being captured by 'terrorists' and dressed in an American jail suit? How would militants even get a suit like this in the first place, and why would they make their hostage put it on?
The experts who saw the video say that the man posing as Jordanian native Zarqawi does not speak the Jordanian dialect. Zarqawi has an artificial leg, but none of these murderers did. The man presented as Zarqawi had a yellow ring, presumably a golden one, which Muslim men are banned from wearing, especially so-called fundamentalists.
The experts mentioned that the man calls Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) 'Gracious Prophet', while it is only Allah, Whom Muslims call 'Gracious'.
More and more questions are coming up about Mr. Berg’s murder and some of them have already been presented to the country’s leadership by the American public.
But major American mass media, which support the war in Iraq, are ignoring this information.
Infowars.com published the material titled «This is a 98 % secret US operation». The chair that Nick Berg was sitting on before the execution was the same as the chairs in Abu-Ghraib prison, where tortures were being committed. These chairs were brought by the US army. It was also reported that even though Nick Berg was a civilian, for some reason his body was delivered to a US Air Force base in Dover, where the dead servicemen are brought.
Meanwhile more and more new circumstances are being revealed when the video is being studied. The doctors are saying that there is almost no blood shown during the beheading, while normally a lot of blood would have been gushing if the person were alive. No blood was seen around it or on the hands of the one who cut the head off. Then it must have been a dead person who was beheaded.
All militants filmed on the video footage are too fat for the Iraqi standards, especially for militants, and they all had white palms of their hands. When the video was studied it turned out that the scream shown in this footage was recorded earlier and it was probably a woman’s scream.
The weapons that the murderers were holding in their hands resemble AKs, but the experts claim that this is a modified AK-47, Israeli-made Halil.
All Islamic organizations, including the ones accused of terrorism, have condemned this act. Nothing has been heard about Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi for the past few months, and there has been a rumor going on that he died in a bombing.
If he did take part in beheading the American and wanted to make it known this way (even the video was called «Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi shows killing of an American»), then why did he need to put a mask on or close his face with a scarf?
But if he has nothing to do with it, and somebody decided to use his name, then it would be quite natural to expect Zarqawi to deny the allegations about his involvement in Mr. Berg’s execution. But no denials have been heard. Especially when such a denial would have been appropriate after all Islamic organizations and the Iraqis condemned this murder.
This fact means that Zarqawi may not be alive. Those who put on that show knew that Zarqawi could no longer deny whatever they accuse him of.
Will the US government be able to deny what Mr. Berg’s parents and the public are accusing it of? Probably, the experts, who manage to find Arab passports and the Holy Koran under a tumbled-down and melted skyscraper, will make something up this time as well? If they don’t, they you should expect some new movies and new terrorist acts to be made by the joint effort of Hollywood and the CIA.
We are hearing a lot of doublespeak about whether or not torture works. The media has trotted out many "experts" that claim that torture doesn't work. Millitary people who denounce the turtore as the Abu Ghraib prison keep saying - torture doesn't work.
On the other hand they are making the opposite argument that "torture is necessary" in order to get information to save lives. They still want to be able to use torture stating that the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to everyone. They create classifications of people who they can torture. They also ship certian prisoners to countries who haven't signed the Geneva Convention so they can be tortured for us.
So - if torture doesn't wwork - then why does the Bush administration continue to pursue it.
It's the same sort of doublespeak about does America torture people or not. "Of course we don't torture people! We are civilised Americans - not barbarians!" But on the other hand American have black ops programs that do things we don't want to think about so that the government can pretend that they don't do the things they are really doing. And this is supposed to be a lie that we are all supposed to accept and believe.
Here's where you really need the tin foil hat. Look at this pic that was released today of the latest prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. Notice the white chair in the lower left corner. Now - look at the chair Nicholas Berg is sitting in!! It's the same fucking chair!!
I have some more pics but the walls are the same yellow color and the baseboard is the same color as Abu Ghraib prison. Then - as I've said before - what is Nicholas Berg doing in an orange prison jump suit? The orange jump suit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!! Terrorists don't put the people they kidnap in orange prison jump suits!
Now - put that together with the fact that these "terrorists" are WHITE and FAT and they are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS!! So who goes around wearing bullet proof vests all the time? People like CIA - Prison guards!
This is enough to scare the shit out of you but - Nicholas Berg was murdered by AMERICANS at Abu Ghraib prison. They staged it so as to make it look like terrorists murdered Berg.
If you have a different opinion then you tell me why they have the same plastic furniture - the same walls - the same floorboard color - and the same orange jump suit. You tell me why these terrorists are fat white guys wearing bullet proof vests. You tell me why they speak bad Arabic. You tell me why they yell like Americans when they kill Berg. I suppose the terrorist picked up those chairs at the local WalMart!
There is a dispute as to if Berg was in US custody. He was arrested by Iraqi police but they claim they turned him over to American custody. America however denies that they had him.
CNN said initially that they were sure the voice was NOT al-Zarqawi. The CIA however confirms that it is. Isn't that amazing! I listen to the voices and it doesn't sound like the voices of someone who speaks Arabic as their first language.
But you see - it's not about the voices that make you think it's not al-Zarqawi. In May 2002 Zarqawi traveled to Iraq. He had his leg amputated and had a prosthetic limb to replace it. So - for a guy with ONE LEG al-Zarqawi is VERY NIMBLE on his feet! So - make you wonder how well the CIA thought things through when they decided to play terrorist?
This is what a REAL terrorists look like. This is the picture of Daniel Pearl who was also killed by terrorists. Notice the thin brown hands - the grabbing of the hair - and the gun to the head. The guy is mean - angry. Pearl has on ordinary clothes and his hands are chained. When you look at the picture you can feel the wildness of a true terrorist. You can tell Pearl looks like he knows he is in big trouble. The clothes on the terrorists look normal for the region - but on the photos of the Berg terrorists - they look like they are in a costume.
Now look at the Berg terrorists. These guys look like the 5 stooges! They are FAT and WHITE. Check out the guy on the right. Do I see WHITE SHOES? Wonder how he keeps them clean running around the Iraqi desert?
When he reads the statement - does he sound angry? I don't hear it. He's reading a script.
As to can see on terrorists 2, 4, and 5 - the BULLET PROOF VESTS. American MPs wear them all the time. To them it's like putting on their underwear. hey wear them so that if a prisoner tries to make a knife and stab them in the heart - they are protected. I guess they never thought they would show up under the terrorist costume.
Berg has no idea what it about to happen. He looks comfortable - perhaps to comfortable. I think they probably told him that they wanted him to pretend to be a hostage in order to get out of prison. Berg knew he was back at Abu Ghraib prison and that his "captors" were Americans - and that he was playing a role. Notice the orange prison garb in the picture.
The beheading changed the mood of the nation. Several lawmakers commented that after the beheading that it reminded them what the real issues were. So the beheading had the intended effect - that is - to inflame Americans and get them to think that torture is something that can be acceptable.
What we are seeing here people scares me beyond belief. I sit here stunned. I want to call someone but don't know who to call. If this turns out to be true - the world will experience a moment of horror unlike anything the world has ever experienced - except maybe the nuking of Japan.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO: What I've posted here isn't an absolute conclusion but asks a lot of questions that need to be answered. I need you to get everyone possible to link to this web page - or - copy it and post it on other sites. I need you to call your members in the US House and Senate. I need you to call your local radio and TV stations and get them to look at this.
Even though exposing this is bad for America - what is really bad for America is if we do this and get away with it. We can not allow America to become like NAZIs. The integrity of who we are and what we believe in must be preserved. We are a people of TRUTH and the only thing that's important is to find out WHAT REALLY HAPPENED HERE.
More strange stuff:
The link below is a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) documentary called Convoy of Death documenting the slaughter of 3000 Afgan POWs in December of 2001.
Afgan POWs Killed - 55mb Quicktime Format
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Addressing other issues and comments
A lot of you have left comments about what I wrote that should be addressed. There are many who agree - many who disagree - and many who are confounded. Some people have posted other reasons to support or not support my assessment. I'm not going to address everything - but try to hit the main points.
First - I tried to stick with what I though was the most solid questions abut the beheading. There are other less solid ones - but I wanted to be focused.
Then - one of my goals is to raise these questions so that they get answered. There may be a reason that the terrorists dressed Berg in the same garb used in the prison. There may be reasons for everything I raised. I want to hear those things explained. I want to hear the questions asked - if nothing else - but to give satisfaction to those who disagree with me to gloat. Let's ask the questions and get the answers.
Yes - every single item taken by itself can be explained as an amazing coincidence. But when you out it all together - it crosses the line into something else. It's like if you tell me you once won the state lottery I'd say - wow - you must be very lucky. But then you tell me you won the lottery twice and I say - "er - really?" Then you say - I won the lottery 5 times in a row ..... Now you're lying - even though each single instance is barely believable.
In this case we have the same situation. The prison garb - maybe. The chair - maybe. The two legs instead of one - maybe. They were all white and fat - maybe. But - put it all together - I'm not buying it.
Furthermore - for those of you who haven't made the leap to the conclusion I came to - that Americans dressed as terrorists did it - you at least have to admit that serious questions are raised that need to be answered. And I'm hoping you all will help me get the questions asked.
Berg was in custody of the US. Something the US is still lying about. So - when he was released do you think they are going to send him out on the streets of Iraq wearing orange? Not hardly! Orange means pick this guy up and bring him back to prison. They would have taken the prison garb away and gave him his clothes back.
Even if for some reason he got out with prison grab on - the first thing he would have done is get regular clothes. You just would not walk around Iraq wearing orange.
So - then if he's abducted again by terrorists - and lets say that they somehow had clothing just like the prison garb - are they going to put him in it? Not hardly. If you are a terrorist kidnapper the last thing you want to do is draw attention your way. So - orange prison outfit - no way!
According to CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/12/iraq.berg/index.html
"The voice on the tape could not be verified as that of al-Zarqawi. CNN staff members familiar with al-Zarqawi's voice said the voice on the tape did not sound like him."
However - many in the news media and US generals are still stating that the executioner is al-Zarqawi. It would seem that those who are perpatrating this fraud wants very much to link it to al-Zarqawi.
"U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the person shown on a video beheading an American civilian in Iraq, based on an analysis of the voice on the video, a CIA official said Thursday."
An American was beheaded today in retaliation for Bush's failed policy of torturing prisoners. I cal it Bush's policy because as soon as 9-11 happened Bush started talking about when torture can be used and tried to distinguish various of war so as to justify torture. Then Bush had secret prisons set up like the one in Cuba so as to keep away anyone who would supervise them. So - when torture is exposed - are we really surprised?
Getting back on subject - seeing the pictures of the video supposedly of terrorists executing an American - the terrorists seem to be taller - stockier - and fatter that most Islamist terrorists are. It looks to me like these could be Americans posing as Islamic terrorists to create an event to justify our use of torture.
Furthermore - if you look at the video you can see that Nick Berg is wearing an orange prison jump suit. When you look at the Iraqi POW abuse pictures one of them - the one with prisoners tied and laying on the floor - shows the same type of orange prison jumpsuit. The man is executed in a concrete building with yellow walls and floresent lighting - the same yellow walls and lighting as the abuse pictures. Am I crazy? Or - was this man executed at Abu Ghraib prison.
Also - these guys are wearing bullet proof jackets. That's very American. And - when they yelled before they cut the head off - they sounded like Americans yelling at a football game.
According to CNN the voices don't match al-Zarqawi. From CNN:
The Web site said the killing had been carried out by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of an Islamist terrorist group that has claimed responsibility for numerous attacks on coalition forces in Iraq.
The voice on the tape could not be verified as that of al-Zarqawi. CNN staffers familiar with al-Zarqawi's voice said the voice on the tape did not sound like him.
Torture and execution benifit both Osama bin Laden and Bush. The greater the hate the better Bush and the terrorist do. Considering that Americans ordered the execution of survivors of an Afgan Massacure of 3000 POWs it is not outside what Bush would do to cover up this scandal. And - like I said - these terrorists look a little too big and too fat to be Islamist terrorists.
I have seen the video - I was going to post it - but I'm leaning against it. If you get a change to download it and view it - I strongly recommend that you don't. Lets just say that knowing that they guy had his head sawed off with a knike while still alive is enough information to know what happened. I'm still in shock over what I saw and I'm still in a stunned state. Seeing it doesn't add any information to what you already know.
I may post the video because it is what happened. It is the price we pay for having Bush as president. But I'm not ready to do that right now.
Letter to the Editor
The Bush solution to the prisoner torture and rape scandal will probably be something like this: "To ensure that America's reputation is never again tarnished by pictures of rape and torture - cameras in prisons are hereby banned."
Letter to the Editor
The torture of prisoners in Iraq is not entirely surprising. The Bush administration has been actively advocating the use of torture ever since 9-11. Many statements have been made floating the idea that torture might be used is special circumstances. Prisoners were given new classifications other that Prisoner of War in order to avoid the restrictions of international law. These prisoners were deliberately reclassified into a legally murky area where no rules exists for one and one reason only - so that they could break the rules.
The abuse of prisoners in Iraq was not the acts of a few individuals. It was in fact the real policy of the military and those soldiers were operating on orders from the top.
What the President creates lawless and encourages it and advocates breaking of the rules then it comes as no surprise when the rules are broken. Bush is responsible for the torture of prisoners in Iraq because he is the one who has made it known that the rule of international law does not apply to what America does. I therefore call on the entire Bush administration to take responsibility and step down from power. This is the kind of thing that happens when America allows a president to take power who was never elected in the first place.
SIDE NOTE:
I found yet another site that has the movie of the execution of 3000 Afgan POWs. Apparently the 17 minute movie I send you a link to was edited dowm. This link has a version with more details and is 59 minutes long. It is also in Real format instead of Quicktime.
The video is a Candaian Broadcasting Corporation documentary detailing the execution of 3000 prisoners by suffocation and the survivors shot and buried in mass graves. It's far bigger that the Iraqi story.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm
I can see by my log files that it's not just the military who is looking at my video. I see that there are some ".gov" hosts as well that have accesses this movie. The CIA has read it and one hit from the US house of representatives.
At this point I want everyone who reads this to call the house and the senate members to let them know.
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
Don't just email. Make a phone call and talk to a person about it.
And - it's time to call for the entire Bush administration to step down.
Please link to this page and this video
Congress and Bush are complaining that they didn't know - that they were never told until they saw it on the news. They promise that this won't happen again. Well - lets put that to the test.
48 hours ago I posted a video produced by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) that documents a mass murder of 3000 Afgan prisoners in 2001 after the American Telaban was captured. Here is that video:
Afgan POWs Killed - 55mb Quicktime Format
Here's another link:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm
Looking at my log files I can see that out of over 7000 downloads that about 100 of them came from military installations. Specifically from an army base in Fort Leonardwood and the Navy Base in San Deigo, so - the army knows about this. The question is - now that they have seen it - will the military cover this up?
I just had a discussion with my girlfriend about this. She contends that there are honorable people in the military who will do the right thing and make it public and come clean and face the music. I have the opposite opinion that there is in fact not a single honest person in the military and that they will do everything in their power to cover it up and conceal it.
Time will tell which one of us is right. Quite frankly - I hope she is.
So you ask - what good does this do to expose American atrocities? Doesn't that help the enemies of freedom? The short answer is - no - what hurts America is that it happened in the first place. But there's something even worse than that it happened in the first place - that we get away with it.
If this is something that is occurring we can not get away with this because if we get away with it then we will do it again and again. We won't stop doing it until we are seriously busted and pay the price and put systems in place to ensure that we never do this again.
I think about how Hitler started. He committed similar atrocities and he got away with it. The more he got away with the more he committed till they got to the point where it was unstoppable. Now it is us who are starting down that path of torture, rape, and murder.
The reality is - what's happening in Iraq is in part a result of the fact that they got away with a far greater abuse of power in Afghanistan. We stuffed 3000 POWs in trucks and allowed them to suffocate. We left them there in the hot sun for a week. Then we shot the survivors and burred them in a mass grave. And - we got away with it.
Who are we and what are we becoming? Is this who we want to be? I'll answer that - no it is not. So - I say to you in the military who find this web site and see this video and who sit back and do nothing. I say to you - you are fucking cowards - no better than Nazis. I say to you - Fuck you! I have no respect for cowards who sit back with your mouth shut and let it happen. It doesn't take courage to fight and die. Nazis did that just fine. The ones who truly have courage are the ones who stand up for what is right.
There is no difference morally between those soldiers who commit atrocities because they are ordered to and soldiers who lie and cover up atrocities because they are told to. If you see this video and you keep your mouth shut - you are as bad as those who did it. Is there no soldier who has the guts to stand up and say, "This is wrong and I am not going to participate in this!" We know about what happened in Iraq because someone had the courage to do what is obviously the right thing to do. So - I say to the military - who's side are you on? Do you serve the People or do you cover your own sorry butt?
So - are you brave enough to stand up for what is right? Tell me who is going to win the bet - me or my girlfriend?
Letter to the Editor
First America went to war to liberate Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. That turned out to be a lie. Then it was because Saddam was an oppressive dictator who tortured, raped, and murdered his people. Now it turns out that Americans are now torturing, raping, and murdering the Iraqi people. And Rumsfield has said the pictures we haven't seen include guards sodomizing young boys, female prisoners raped, sadistic torture, and indecent acts with dead bodies. Today the Statue of Liberty is standing on a box with a bag over her head.
If you think that prisoner abuse in Iraq is bad - you haven't seen anything yet. I snagged this video off the Internet about a year ago and I think it's finally time I posted it.
Convoy of Death
There's only one war on our television screens now - that other war, the one from just a year ago, has been forgotten - but not by everyone. In Afghanistan, filmmaker Jamie Doran has uncovered evidence of a massacre: Taliban prisoners of war suffocated in containers, shot in the desert under the watch of American troops.
After screening the videotape last fall, the European Parliament called for an investigation. The United Nations has authorized an official investigation into the film's allegations, but only if the security of its members can be guaranteed. And security is hard to find in northern Afghanistan. Since this documentary was filmed, eyewitnesses have been tortured. Others have disappeared or been killed.
This video is about how the US slaughtered 3000 Afgan prisoners of war. The video is big - 55 megs download and it is shocking. It makes the Black Hole of Calcutta look like a picnic. These prisoners were left in sealed truck containers to suffocate and fry in the hot sun. The few that survived a week were taken out and shot an buried in mass graves.
The video is EXTREMELY disturbing and it will give you nightmares. If you are not ready to see this footage - DO NOT WATCH IT !!! This is NAZI level stuff.
Afgan POWs Killed - 55mb Quicktime Format
Read about the making of this video on Buzzflash:
Once you've seen this - call your congress critter and let them know about this. The only thing scarier that the fact that this happened is that fact that Bush is covering it up.
Letter to the Editor
We don't know what Bush said at the 9-11 hearing but his actions speak louder than his words. Bush resisted creating the commission, then he resisted testifying before it. When he did testify he insisted on doing it behind closed doors, with Cheney there to guide him, and with no recording device or transcripts allowed.
Obviously Bush isn't very proud of his 9-11 conduct because he's doing everything he can to hide it. The way I see it - if he's hiding it - it's because he knows he has something to hide.
Letter to the Editor
It's amusing seeing the press go after Kerry about the details of his
many Vietnam combat medals. At least Kerry had medals for serving. Bush
on the other hand got a pass on Vietnam. He was in the national guard -
he was AWOL - and he spent the Vietnam era drunk and high on cocaine.
But - you don't see that in the Republican owned press. Kerry is a hero
- Bush is a zero.
Letter to the Editor
Most people believe that there will be some sort of terrorist attack against the United States before the election. And there probably will be because Bush wasted all our resources going after Iraq when he should have gone after Osama bin Laden. Now the real terrorists are not only free but stronger than ever. If we are attacked it will be a result of another failure of leadership of the Bush administration. This is the sort of thing that happens when we have a president who just isn't smart enough to do the job.
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Osama bin Laden is stronger than ever. We are the most feared and hated nation on the planet right now. Even our alies like France, Germany, Russia, and even Canada think we've gone mad.
Letter to the Editor
It's no surprise that there is a Saudi plan to reduce gas prices to help Bush get elected. After all - they owe Bush big time. 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and they were funding Osama bin Laden. Bush and the Sandi's are so close that the Saudi ambassador knew Bush was going to war with Iraq before Secretary of State Colin Powell was told. Saudi Arabia is getting quite rich this summer at the expense of the American people.
Letter to the Editor
Bush wants the Patriot Acts renewed because of the "war on terror". But why should we surrender our freedom when Bush sacrifices the war on terror to go after Iraq instead? What's the point of having more government spying when the FBI comes to the president and tells him that bin Laden is about to attack and he doesn't act on it? America doesn't need more spies - it needs a leader. The first step in the war on terror will be when we get rid of Bush and take our freedom back.
Letter to the Editor
The Bush administration complains that Spain is giving into terrorism because Spain is pulling out of Iraq. But this is not the case. When Spain was attacked by Bin Laden they realized that they were making an error supporting Bush's phony war in Iraq. That they could no longer waste their resources on Iraq and that they should go after the real terrorists instead. I just hope that someday we in America figure out that it's more effective to go after the real enemy - Bin Laden - rather than fake enemies like Iraq.
Whistleblower the White House wants to silence speaks to The Independent
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
A former translator for the FBI with top-secret security clearance says she has provided information to the panel investigating the 11 September attacks which proves senior officials knew of al-Qa'ida's plans to attack the US with aircraft months before the strikes happened.
She said the claim by the National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice, that there was no such information was "an outrageous lie".
Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session with the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained a gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets privilege".
She told The Independent yesterday: "I gave [the commission] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. I gave them everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented. These things can be established very easily."
She added: "There was general information about the time-frame, about methods to be used but not specifically about how they would be used and about people being in place and who was ordering these sorts of terror attacks. There were other cities that were mentioned. Major cities with skyscrapers."
The accusations from Mrs Edmonds, 33, a Turkish-American who speaks Azerbaijani, Farsi, Turkish and English, will reignite the controversy over whether the administration ignored warnings about al-Qa'ida. That controversy was sparked most recently by Richard Clarke, a former counter-terrorism official, who has accused the administration of ignoring his warnings.
The issue what the administration knew and when is central to the investigation by the 9/11 Commission, which has been hearing testimony in public and private from government officials, intelligence officials and secret sources. Earlier this week, the White House made a U-turn when it said that Ms Rice would appear in public before the commission to answer questions. Mr Bush and his deputy, Dick Cheney, will also be questioned in a closed-door session.
Mrs Edmonds, 33, says she gave her evidence to the commission in a specially constructed "secure" room at its offices in Washington on 11 February. She was hired as a translator for the FBI's Washington field office on 13 September 2001, just two days after the al-Qa'ida attacks. Her job was to translate documents and recordings from FBI wire-taps.
She said said it was clear there was sufficient information during the spring and summer of 2001 to indicate terrorists were planning an attack. "Most of what I told the commission 90 per cent of it related to the investigations that I was involved in or just from working in the department. Two hundred translators side by side, you get to see and hear a lot of other things as well."
"President Bush said they had no specific information about 11 September and that is accurate but only because he said 11 September," she said. There was, however, general information about the use of airplanes and that an attack was just months away.
To try to refute Mr Clarke's accusations, Ms Rice said the administration did take steps to counter al-Qa'ida. But in an opinion piece in The Washington Post on 22 March, Ms Rice wrote: "Despite what some have suggested, we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles, though some analysts speculated that terrorists might hijack planes to try and free US-held terrorists."
Mrs Edmonds said that by using the word "we", Ms Rice told an "outrageous lie". She said: "Rice says 'we' not 'I'. That would include all people from the FBI, the CIA and DIA [Defence Intelligence Agency]. I am saying that is impossible."
It is impossible at this stage to verify Mrs Edmonds' claims. However, some senior US senators testified to her credibility in 2002 when she went public with separate allegations relating to alleged incompetence and corruption within the FBI's translation department.
White House Goes On Offensive Against Jesus
Satire by Daniel Welch
Washington, DC. - The White House, still reeling from this week's surprise return of Jesus Christ and His condemnation of the Bush administration's war in Iraq, has gone on the offensive.
An administration aide admitted to growing White House frustration that staffers had been "caught napping," not only by Mr. Christ's unexpected return, which the aide likened to "a thief in the night," but especially by His strongly worded condemnation of Bush's foreign policy. "After all," stated the staff member on condition of anonymity, "we've been working since day one to bring about Armageddon specifically to hasten the Lord's return. Then He does this. I've got to question both His loyalty and His timing."
In a blitz of morning show appearances yesterday, administration officials sought to cast doubt on the savior's credibility, as well as His motivations.
National security advisor Condoleezza Rice stated on NBC's Today Show that the King of Kings "Never gave us a plan to follow, really. We would have welcomed his input, but He was apparently too busy converting water into wine."
Rice's statements appeared to contradict those of Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Appearing on CNN, Armitage stated that "The Redeemer had presented the administration with a lengthy plan, titled 'Revelations,' that "President Bush has endeavored mightily to follow. The President has been diligent about this, despite the fact that Yahweh doesn't exactly write the most clear or concise memo I've ever seen."
Appearing on conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh's program, Vice President Dick Cheney questioned the Everlasting Light's credibility in His scathing critique of the Iraq war. "Frankly, He was out of the loop. I mean, where's He been for the past 2,000 years?" Cheney asked. "And now He suddenly makes Himself manifest in an election year?"
Fox News released a transcript purporting to show four different versions of the Messiah's story. Former Republican governor James Thompson referred to Fox's story stating, "Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John. At least three of these are lies." Thompson added, "I'm from the Midwest."
In a hastily called press briefing, White House press secretary Scott McClellan sought to reassure the GOP's large Christian constituency that Bush still revered the Son of God. "The President knows Him on a first name basis," McClellan said. "He considers the day that he met Christ to be the most memorable event of his life."
When asked by Helen Thomas as to exactly when and where Bush met Christ, McClellan stated "The President doesn't remember such a meeting taking place. But it wasn't in the situation room, I can tell you that. Despite what He said, Jehovah has no witnesses." Thomas appeared doubtful.
Perhaps the harshest words were reserved for The Lamb Of God by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN.) Taking the Senate floor, Frist waved about a copy of the Bible, accusing The Way, The Truth, & The Light of perjury. "First He says He's the Son of God! Then He says he's not only God's son, He's also God Himself! Then he brings up this Holy Ghost business. It's weird outer space stuff."
Frist also questioned Christ's motivation for returning to Earth to criticize the Iraq war. "First you have this "Passion" movie. Now the book. It's shameful and Self serving."
Christ was later questioned about the film by reporters as He stood outside Pat Robertson's Virginia Beach studios in an ultimately futile attempt to appear on The 700 Club. "I've never met with Mel Gibson, nor do I ever intend to," sayeth the Lord. "I don't appreciate his anti-semitism."
Apparently someone in the White House left their Political Script on 9-11 behind at Starbucks this morning.
Now I ask you - if a Clinton official left something like this on the table at Starbucks - would you not be demanding a special prosecutor? That's the difference between how Clinton is covered and how Bush is covered.
Letter to the Editor
The issue has been raised about what Clinton did or didn't do to fight terrorism. I say - let's call Clinton to testify to the 9-11 commission - in public - and under oath. In the interest of getting to the bottom of the problem so that 9-11 never happens again - I think Clinton could shed important light on the topic and can address issues that have been raised.
Additionally - when Bush testifies it should also be in public and under oath. The fact that he won't take the oath makes it look like he intends to be less that fully truthful. I say - let's get this all out in the open.
Letter to the Editor
If the Bush administration went after al Qaeda the way Bush is going after Richard Clarke for saying that Clinton did a better job on terrorism than Bush did, there wouldn't be a terrorist threat to worry about.
Letter to the Editor
I find it amazing that Condoleezza Rice won't testify to the 9-11 commission referencing "constitutional issues " and "separation of powers". Seems I don't remember these issues being a problem back when the Republicans were dragging President Clinton and everyone in his administration before congressional panels. The way the Bush administration is hiding things make one wonder if they have something to hide? The more Ms. Rice says she won't talk - the more interested I am in hearing what she's not saying.
Letter to the Editor
Its an interesting dilemma when it comes to condemning assassinating terrorists. Sort of a no win situation. Certainly someone who terrorizes can't complain when the victims strike back. But in a culture of war and mutual terrorism to we condone or condemn such acts? What is the right way to end the cycle of violence? Every time you kill a terrorist - it causes them to breed. But to not kill them inspires them as well. And there are those who use such violence for political posturing and personal profit. If Bush is going to posture as the "War President" then he's going to need a lot of war to divert attention away from a collapsing economy.
America has always been the voice of peace - not war. We are making too many enemies in the world and its time we changed direction and start making friends. We have a lot of work to do to rid the world of terrorism and we can no longer afford to support a political opportunist who feeds on war. What we need is a "Peace President" - not a "War President". A president who has good judgment and can figure out who the enemy is.
Letter to the Editor
An open letter to the citizens of the world. Even though Bush is president of the United States Bush affects every person on the planet - and not for the better. Bush has become a global menace and I call on the people of the world to do everything in their power to stop him. I would remind you that Bush has no problem with the idea of influencing other countries and way he sees fit.
I am concerned that if Bush isn't removed from office that we are going to end up in World War III but the end of this decade. We are the most powerful nation on the planet and we are controlled by madmen who were never elected in the first place. A year ago today Bush was talking about using nuclear weapons against Iraq in a war we now know he faked. I would ask you - what will the world look like 4 years from now if Bush isn't removed?
For years America has been the beacon for freedom and democracy and has come to the aid of countries who's liberties were threatened. Today it is us who are coming to you because our liberty is threatened. And - we are a very dangerous nation - to dangerous to be in the wrong hands. Please help us.
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Nuclear weapons on the table in a Iraqi war
By Lance Gay
- The Bush administration won't take nuclear weapons off the table as military planners sketch out a war in Iraq and weigh whether Saddam Hussein would likely lash back with chemical or biological weapons if cornered.
In a policy publicly unveiled in December, the White House said America's strategy is to consider all options against any use of biological, chemical or nuclear weapons on American troops or U.S. allies.
"The United States will continue to make clear that it reserves the right to respond with overwhelming force - including through resort to all of our options - to the use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States, or forces abroad, and friends and allies," it says.
Critics say the new policy removes nuclear weapons from their special classification, and makes the Pentagon consider wider use of them. The Pentagon has already studied the possibility of using low-yield nuclear bombs to destroy underground bunkers or buried stockpiles or chemical or biological weapons.
In a report sent to Congress last year, the military concluded that new generations of laser-guided conventional weapons were so accurate they could do a better bunker-busting job than nuclear weapons, which aren't as accurate. Furthermore, nuclear explosions could create so much damage they might spread chemical or biological weapons to surrounding civilian areas, and make it more difficult to clean up contaminated areas once the war is over, the military concluded.
Some military analysts say the Bush administration is forcing a shift in how the military would use nuclear weapons.
"There is a greater willingness to entertain a nuclear response," said Michael Levi, deputy director of the strategic security project at the American Federation of Scientists. Levi contended that it's possible under the new doctrine that the U.S. military could respond to a chemical weapons attack with nuclear weapons, although he expects that any decision would hinge on how many people were killed in an Iraqi attack.
Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons during the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-88, and also has used the weapons against Iraqi Kurds. But he did not use them during the Persian Gulf War, or install chemical weapons on Scud missiles he sent to Israel.
Levi said he expects Saddam will use chemical weapons, both against U.S troops and Israel, this time. "It is difficult to deter someone who has nothing to lose," he said.
Francois Boo, an analyst with GlobalSecurity.org, a Washington think tank, said a new war with Iraq would be different because President Bush has repeatedly declared his intention this time to depose Saddam and his regime. U.N. weapons inspectors say they have not yet had an accounting for vast stocks of VX nerve gas, chemicals used to make mustard gas, or stockpiles of anthrax that Iraq has hidden.
"The restrictions are gone, and he will try to create as many casualties as possible," Boo said. Boo said he also expects Saddam would order the use of chemical weapons in a last-ditch effort to blunt an American attack.
But responding to a chemical attack with nuclear weapons "would cause more harm than good," and would send a message to other countries that the nuclear threshold has been lowered. "It's very unlikely we would turn Iraq into a giant glass bowl," he said.
Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said using nuclear weapons in Iraq would also cause a backlash against the United States in the Arab world, and be a recruiting tool for terrorists. "Our nation, long a beacon of hope, would overnight be seen as a symbol of death, destruction and aggression."
When Clinton was president the press referred to him as "Mr. Clinton". When the press talks about Bush they refer to him as "The President" or - at least "President Bush". They do this even though Clinton won the election by a landslide and Bush lost the election and was appointed president by the Supreme Court.
You see how the bias works? I remember there was a joke going around at the time - it went like this. "The Pope and Clinton were fishing and the Pope's hat blew off. Clinton walked across the water and fetched the Pope's hat. A reporter saw the even and went off to write the story. The headline - CLINTON CAN'T SWIM!"
Republicans posing as being "tough on terrorism" seem to have a short memory of what they were saying back when Clinton was going after Bin Laden. Here's what the Republican controlled press (CNN 08/21/1998) was saying about the war on terrorism at the time:
'Wag the Dog' Back In Spotlight
LOS ANGELES (AllPolitics, Aug. 21) -- A president embroiled in a sex scandal in the Oval Office tries to save his presidency by distracting the nation with a made-for-TV war far from American soil in an obscure country.
It's not the latest news out of Washington, but the plot of the movie "Wag the Dog." In the 1997 movie, a shadowy spin doctor played by Robert De Niro recruits a Hollywood producer (Dustin Hoffman) to invent a war against Albania.
The film came out just before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke -- and no doubt benefited at the box office and then at the video store from the publicity. Now, the film is all the buzz again because of President Clinton's announcement -- three days after admitting for the first time an inappropriate relationship with Ms. Lewinsky -- that he ordered military strikes in two countries.
From the moment Clinton went on live television Thursday to announce the bombings in Afghanistan and Sudan, "Wag the Dog's" producer-director Barry Levinson and producer Jane Rosenthal were inundated with requests for comment.
"The world's media right now are giving the filmmakers far too much credit for being clairvoyant," said their spokesman, Simon Halls. "The filmmakers put together a movie that was entertainment, and it was well received, but that's what it was: entertainment. Anything that is happening in the world today really has nothing to do with the movie."
A reference point
But the movie is serving as a reference point in the debate over Clinton's motivations.
"Look at the movie 'Wag the Dog.' I think this has all the elements of that movie," Rep. Jim Gibbons said. "Our reaction to the embassy bombings should be based on sound credible evidence, not a knee-jerk reaction to try to direct public attention away from his personal problems."
Massachusetts acting Gov. Paul Cellucci, a Republican and a movie buff, said: "It popped into my mind, but I do hope that that's not the situation and I trust that it isn't."
One of the first questions asked of Defense Secretary William Cohen at a nationally televised Pentagon was how he would respond to people who think the military action "bears a striking resemblance to 'Wag the Dog."'
"The only motivation driving this action today was our absolute obligation to protect the American people from terrorist activities," Cohen said. "That is the sole motivation."
The movie's title comes from an old joke, shown in the opening credits of the film: "Why does a dog wag its tail? Because a dog is smarter than its tail. If the tail were smarter, the tail would wag the dog."
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It makes you wonder - if the Republican press wasn't harassing Clinton about sex and focused on terrorism - would 9-11 have happened? With reporting like this I have to say that the press is partially responsible of 9-11 and the illegal Iraq war.
This Yahoo Story tells an amazing tale that should shock all Americans to their core. The day after 9-11 Rumfield wanted to attack Iraq even though he knew Iraq had nothing to do with the attack. Here's the story:
By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld almost immediately urged President Bush (news - web sites) to consider bombing Iraq (news - web sites) after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on New York and Washington, says a former senior administration counterterrorism aide.
Richard A. Clarke, the White House counterterrorism coordinator at the time, recounts in a forthcoming book details of a meeting the day after the terrorist attacks during which top officials considered the U.S. response. Even then, he said, they were certain that al-Qaida was to blame and there was no hint of Iraqi involvement.
"Rumsfeld was saying we needed to bomb Iraq," Clarke said. "We all said, 'But no, no, al-Qaida is in Afghanistan (news - web sites)."
Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel reviewing the attacks, said Rumsfeld complained in the meeting that "there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan and there are lots of good targets in Iraq."
This is amazing. From the very next day the Bush administration saw 9-11 as an opportunity to go after Iraq's oil.
A spokesman for Rumsfeld said he couldn't comment immediately.
Clarke makes the assertion in a book, "Against All Enemies," that goes on sale Monday. He told CBS News he believes the administration sought to link Iraq with the attacks because of long-standing interest in overthrowing Saddam Hussein (news - web sites); Clarke appears Sunday night on the network's "60 Minutes" program.
"I think they wanted to believe that there was a connection" between Iraq and the al-Qaida attacks in the United States, Clarke said in an interview segment that CBS broadcast Friday evening. "There's just no connection. There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al-Qaida."
Clarke also criticized President Bush for promoting the administration's efforts against terrorism, accusing top Bush advisers of turning a blind eye to terrorism during the first months of Bush's presidency.
The Associated Press first reported in June 2002 that Bush's national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions.
What's clear here is that none of this has anything to do with fighting terrorism. In fact - Bush is completely indifferent to terrorism. He uses it merely as a phrase for political posturing. In fact - terrorism works to Bush's political advantage.
The last of those two meetings occurred Sept. 4 as the security council put finishing touches on a proposed national security policy review for the president. That review was finished Sept. 10 and was awaiting Bush's approval when the first plane struck the World Trade Center.
"Frankly, I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism," Clarke told CBS. "He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something."
There have been earlier published accounts of the administration's suspicion during the week after the 2001 attacks that Iraq might have been involved, but none by a direct participant in such senior-level meetings and none that suggested there was a push to attack Iraq so soon afterward.
A discussion among President Bush and Cabinet members at Camp David. Md., on Sept. 16, for example, included remarks about whether it was prudent to attack Iraq after the terror attacks.
Bush told reporter Bob Woodward of The Washington Post that he decided not to heed advice on Iraq by some officials who also had served his father's administration during the first Gulf War (news - web sites).
"One of the things I wasn't going to allow to happen is, that we weren't going to let their previous experience in this theater dictate a rational course for a new war," Bush told Woodward for his 2002 book, "Bush at War." He said discussion later that day "was focused only on Afghanistan."
Clarke retired early in 2003 after 30 years in government service. He was among the longest-serving White House staffers, transferred in 1992 from the State Department to deal with threats from terrorism and narcotics.
Clarke previously led the government's secretive Counterterrorism and Security Group, made up of senior officials from the FBI (news - web sites), CIA (news - web sites), Justice Department (news - web sites) and armed services, who met several times each week to discuss foreign threats.
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So - who are the bad guys here?
Saddam is a bad guy. But Saddam had nothing to do with terrorism. Saddam is a brutal dictator who murdered tens of thousands of his own people. But his terrorism was local. And - because he was a dictator - he could keep the Muslims and Kurds from killing each other and he kept real terrorists like Bin Laden out. Saddam and Bin Laden are sworn enemies. Now Bin Laden can bring terror to Iraq without Saddam there to stop him.
Yes - Bin Laden is a bad guy. He's the real enemy - the one who actually was behind 9-11. While Bush was going after Iraq's oil under the pretence of fighting terrorism he turned a blind eye to Bin Laden allowing him to build his power. Bush dragged America into an unjust and unprevoked war and alienated both our alies and enemies and strenthened the real terrorists. America is far weaker today and our enemies are stronger. We are losing the war.
The real enemy is Bush. Bush is far more dangerous to the world than Bin Laden and we are on track for World War 3.
Letter to the Editor
I have some questions for those who support same sex marriage - should I be allowed to marry my brother? If not - why not?
I would point out that the reason for not marrying my sister is that if we reproduced - then we would likely have birth complications. However - that doesn't apply if I marry my brother because I can't get him pregnant. For that matter - should I be allowed to marry my sister of one or both of us are not capable of reproducing? - If not - why not?
Should I be allowed to marry more than one person? Why limit marriage to only 2 people? Why not 3 or 4? Why have a limit?
Should I be allowed to marry my cat - especially when a cat is much more likely to make a lifelong commitment that a human. In fact - I would bet that if someone compared the average number of years an owner and their pet stay together and a man and wife stay together - the pets would win.
For those who want to move the line on what people should and shouldn't marry - where do you want to move the line to? And - why should the line be there?
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If it were up to me - I would move the line back the other way to include only couples with children. To me marriage is about families - reproducing - creating new generations. I would therefore - if I were King - grant civil unions to same sex couples and non-reproducing heterosexual couples.
All marriages are really civil unions in the eyes of the state because all states have no fault divorce laws. Therefore the state doesn't really recognize the "relationship" part of a marriage and marriage is really just a bad property agreement where if the relationship fails then two lawyers get to keep your property. From someone who has been chewed by the courts I say to same sex couples - be careful what you ask for - you might get it!
If this isn't cluelless I don't know what is. We have to start a war with Iraq to go after terrorists - but the guy who is actually doing the terrorism isn't important.
Defense Secretary Says Capturing Bin Laden Would Not Change the Problem of Terrorism
By Robert Burns The Associated Press
Published: Mar 16, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) - Capturing or killing al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden would not "change the problem" of international terrorism, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday.
Rumsfeld also raised the possibility that bin Laden was dead.
"The reality is that bin Laden is spending a great deal of his time - if he is alive today - hiding and running and trying to communicate and trying to survive," Rumsfeld said in an interview at the Pentagon with WTN radio in Nashville.
Because of the pressure on bin Laden, al-Qaida and its affiliates have become more decentralized, Rumsfeld said.
"It would be a good thing if he were not there, but it certainly isn't going to change the problem. We're going to have to find the rest of the terrorists and his associates and see that they're put in jail."
The interview was one of a series that Rumsfeld and other senior Pentagon officials gave to radio stations around the country Tuesday as part of a Bush administration public relations offensive marking the one-year anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq. The war began March 19.
In an interview with WPHT radio in Philadelphia, Rumsfeld was asked about a reported remark Monday by the chief of France's armed forces that bin Laden several times had narrowly escaped capture by French troops in Afghanistan.
"We don't know" whether U.S. or coalition troops have come close to bin Laden, Rumsfeld said.
"We haven't caught him," he added. "Close doesn't count. This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades. We're trying to capture or kill this man. We don't even know if he's alive for sure."
The consensus of intelligence analysts is that bin Laden is hiding out in the Afghan-Pakistan border area.
Last weekend the U.S. military command in Afghanistan announced the start of an offensive, dubbed Operation Mountain Storm, aimed at destroying al-Qaida and the Taliban and ultimately finding bin Laden.
Watching Dennis Miller is sad these days. I remember him back when he used to be funny - before he became Bush's bitch for CNBC. Dennis Miller is so unfunny that the actually have to pay people to be in his audiance and laugh at him. Swear to koresh its true. The studio ran and ad on Craigs List paying people $15 to sit in his audience and laugh and clap for him.
I'm sitting here watching him trying to find something funny and is just isn't happening for me. All I can see is Bush's hand up his butt working his mouth like a puppet. Don't they have any comedy writers for him? The camera pans to the audience where most of them arent clapping - but looking guilty like that might not get the $15 unless they do what the sign tells them to do.
Dennis Millers show is about as real as the Bush economic recovery - or weapons of mass destruction. Hey baby - we're all going to Mars! Dennis Miller used to laugh at people who are like he is now. Now he's one of them. He's a zombie!
Dennis - my pity goes out to you man for being so pathetic. What does it feel like for a comedian to have to hire an audiance and pay people to laugh at you? I mean - isn't that the very definition of LOSER? Good luck reclaiming your soul someday.
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Letter to the Editor
Its been one years since the war started - are we better off today? I think not. Saddam has been replaced by chaos. No weapons were found. We may be stuck over there forever. America is hated and feared by countries that were our allies. Tens of thousands of lives lost for nothing. The deficit is 500 billion a year and climbing. Schools are closing. Gas prices at record highs and Greenspan talks of rationing Social Security.
Clearly America did not win this war. The only one who seems better off today than they were a year ago is Bin Laden because America is far weaker and world opinion has turned against us. I think America needs a regime change.
Letter to the Editor
In spite of administration hopes it will be impossible for Bush to be reelected this year for one simple reason - Bush was never elected in the first place.
WASHINGTON - The nation's top Medicare cost analyst confirmed yesterday that his former boss had ordered him to withhold from lawmakers unfavorable cost estimates about the Medicare prescription-drug bill. He said the estimates exceeded what Congress seemed willing to accept by more than $100 billion.
Richard Foster, chief actuary at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, said that in early June he received a written note from Thomas Scully, then the centers' administrator, ordering him to ignore information requests from members of Congress who were drafting the drug bill.
The Inquirer Washington Bureau reported the episode in an exclusive published yesterday, but Foster's comments were his first on the matter. Yesterday, House and Senate leaders called for investigations into the alleged muzzling. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D., S.D.) said the allegations justified reopening the vote on the drug benefit. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass.) wrote President Bush demanding to know what cost estimates he used in pushing the new drug benefit, which Congress passed in November and which Bush signed into law Dec. 8.
Scully's note, Foster said, "was a direct order not to respond to certain requests and instead to provide the responses to him and warn about the consequences of insubordination."
The note was Scully's first threat in writing, according to Foster, and came after at least three less formal threats.
They "came in different forms," he said. "Sometimes he would make a comment that 'I think I need another chief actuary,' or, 'If you want to work for the Ways and Means Committee, I can arrange it.' It was that sort of thing." Ways and Means was drafting the bill.
Efforts to reach Scully at his office and home yesterday were unsuccessful. In a recent interview, he denied closing off Foster's lines of communication with Congress. On only one occasion, Scully said, did he block Foster's contacts with lawmakers, in this case Democrats, saying their motives were purely political.
Foster said Scully insisted on a pattern of withholding of information.
"Estimates that were supportive of the legislation were generally released, and estimates that could be used to criticize the legislation were generally not released," Foster said.
He said he believed that higher-ranking members of the administration than Scully knew of the higher cost estimates his office had computed.
"Did the President know? Did Secretary Tommy Thompson know? I don't know," Foster said. Thompson heads the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the Medicare office.
The White House press office did not respond to requests seeking comment.
The Inquirer reported yesterday that Foster's office had suggested that the drug benefit would cost at least $100 billion more than the $395 billion estimated by the Congressional Budget Office, whose job it is to project costs of legislation.
One projection prepared in early June by Foster's office and obtained by the Inquirer Washington Bureau concluded that a Senate version of the bill might cost as much as $551 billion.
At the time of the estimate, the House was sharply divided on the proposed new Medicare drug benefit, which the administration strongly backed. Ultimately, the House passed the measure, 216-215, on June 27. In November, it endorsed a House-Senate compromise version, 220-215; the yes votes included 13 Republican fiscal conservatives who had said they would vote against the bill if it cost more than $400 billion for its first 10 years.
When Bush signed the bill, the drug benefit was touted as costing $395 billion. In January, Bush's budget director, Joshua Bolten, raised the estimate to $534 billion.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R., Tenn.) noted yesterday that Foster's estimates were based on different and costlier assumptions than those of the Congressional Budget Office.
Frist spokesman Bob Stevenson added: "If an individual's job was threatened and if they were trying to shield information from Congress, that could be an issue of concern."
Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R., Iowa), chairman of the Finance Committee, said Foster's estimates "should not have been withheld. Government analysts with relevant information should never be muzzled."
In a floor speech yesterday, Daschle called for reopening the vote on the drug benefit. He also called for an investigation into the firing threat and assertions that the administration had withheld its cost estimates from Congress.
"Whether this is criminal or not is a matter we will certainly want to clarify," Daschle said. "But if not criminal, it was certainly unethical. And I think we need to know the facts."
A group of House Democrats concurred, asking that the HHS inspector general investigate.
Foster, a senior civil servant, remains on his job. He said he had new and strong support from Thompson and from Medicare's newly confirmed chief, Mark McClellan.
Letter to the Editor
Bush's TV ads confuse me. He seems to be pointing out all his failures as if they were accomplishments. He uses 9-11 but is running from the investigating panel as if he were hiding something. He touts the economy but the economy is in the worst shape ever. Taxes are the highest ever - gas is at record high - government spending at record highs and increasing - record deficits - and state economies pushed to the verge of collapse. Schools are shutting down. Hospitals are closing. Greenspan is talking about rationing social security and medicare. Government spying on people. 2 million jobs lost. The country is falling apart. His ads are reminding us of his failures.
Letter to the Editor
A jury has convicted Martha Stewart of lying to the government and she will probably go to prison for it. However her lie isn't nearly as serious as the lie Bush told the nation to trick us into going to war with Iraq. Does the government go to prison when it lies to the people?
Letter to the Editor
Here's a Bush style ad I'd like to see: "Kerry voted for Bush's Patriot Act! Kerry voted for Bush's tax cuts for the rich! Kerry voted for Bush's illegal war in Iraq! Now he's changed his mind. Can you trust someone who votes with a slimeball like Bush? NO! -- Vote Bush!"
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Yes - it is stolen from a Simpsons epasode - but when the Republicans started criticizing Kerry for voting with Bush - it was the same logic.
There's no difference between borrow and spend and tax and spend. Running on borrowed money is just a tax that you have to pay later. So for those who think that a bond measure is not a tax increase - you're being lied to. This 15 billion dollars they want to borrow will cost you more than 15 billion in new taxes.
One thing that brings Democrats and Republicans in California together is borrow and spend politics. Borrow and spend is really a tax increase on the credit card. Its spend now and taxes later.
I'm voting NO on Props 57 and 58. California has every tax there is and poor services. In fact - it seems from what I see that the higher the tax rate the poorer the service. The problem with California is that they is too much government and that it needs to be cut. And they aren't going to make the cuts until we tear up the credit card.
What is this election about - or more importantly - who is going to decide what this election is about? Well - the answer to the second part of the question is - we are! We have to control the "What is this election about ?" question! Therefore - we need to do two things - define what this election is about - including what this election is not about - and we need to figure out how to make it about what we want to make it about.
Again - answering the second question first - the way we control what this election is about is that we hammer it on our web site - over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Then - we figure out what the election is and is not about.
This Election is NOT about
The election is not about a referendum on gay marriage. If we are talking about gay marriage then we are not talking about what this election is about. Not to say that gay marriage isn't an important issue - but it certainly is not important compared to the economy, the war in iraq, the patriot act, freedom and liberty issues, the raping of America, and the fact that America can't survive another 4 years of Bush.
The election is not about Bush's service - or lack thereof - in the national guard. Yes - he was AWOL - and we all know that. But that debate is a distraction. It distracts from Bush being AWOL as president allowing 9-11 to happen while he was in Texas being beaten up by a pretzel.
And - this election is not about anything the Republicans want to say the election is about. If we are talking about their issues - then we aren't talking about our issues. We need to make sure that when the Republican owned media tries to control the debate and define the election on their terms that we show them down and make sure we are dominate - whatever it takes.
This election is not about Republicans vs. Democrats - not about Liberal vs. Conservatives - not about Christians vs. Heathens - not about the rich vs. the poor - not about workers vs. corporations - not about this group vs. that group. There are a lot of things that everyone has in common that this election is about. So we can't let the Bush administration chop America up into little pieces and try to reassemble the pieces into a shape that appears to make it look like a culture war that Bush is the winner of. We can't be distracted into letting them control what the election is about.
What the Election is About - Its about the Future
So - getting down to - what is this election about - I remember Carville defining the debate. "It's the economy stupid!" - and yes - it still is the economy - and the economy sucks and it is not recovering - it is not strong - we are going further in the hole at a faster rate than ever. We are in a nose dive only 2000 feet from the ground and it may already be to late to pull out of it.
However - "It's the economy stupid!" is now a smaller piece of a bigger picture. The big picture is - this election is about THE FUTURE stupid. This election is about tomorrow. We need to ask the question - "What will America be like if we have 4 more years of Bush?" "What kind of Country are we? "Who are we and what have we become".
We need to keep the focus on the future. In fact - that can be a test to see if we are on the right track. If an issue is presented - is the issue about the future - or is it a distraction? I remember in the last real election where Dole talked about a bridge to the past - and Clinton talked about a bridge to the future. You know who won that debate. In my Church of Reality - looking towards the future is known as the "sacred direction" - we are forward looking - onward and upward. Looking to the future is the winning issue in this debate and it is up to us to keep the focus of this election on the future.
So - what kind of a future do we want America to have? Where are we and what direction are we heading? What will America look like in 2008 if Bush is reselected? We can ask the question - "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" - but - a better question would be - "Will you be better off 4 years from now with Bush or Kerry?" Clinton understood these issues. He framed the debate between hope and fear. Bush will be pushing fear - we must push hope. Hope by definition is forward looking - to long for a better tomorrow. That's that this election is about - hope - a longing for a better tomorrow.
Who can disagree with that? I mean - if you ask Republican voters - do you want a better tomorrow - 65% of them would say Yes!
So - what will America be like if Bush is reselected? Will we be a nation at war? Will we have the Draft? Will the government be forcing us to give up our children to die in an undeclared war for no reason at all? Will we have any jobs left? Will Bush continue to cut taxes for the rich. Will Head Start exist in 2008? Will there be an education system left? What state economies will collapse? Will the national economy collapse?
What about freedom and liberty? Will Patriot 2 pass? Will there be government spies everywhere - watching your every move? Will we go to jail for writing messages like this one? Will there be any free speech? Will the government drag us off to jail as an enemy combatant if we speak out? Is this the end of freedom if Bush is reselected?
What about the economy? What will happen by 2008? Will we be so far in the hole that we never get out? At what point does the debt collapse the economy? What happens then? Do we start World War 3 using our nuclear weapons to threaten other countries to steal their resources?
Or - are we talking about RATIONING? Rationing is the future under Bush. Allen Greenspan has already given us a glimpse of America's future under Bush. What he advised is RATIONING SOCIAL SECURITY. There's a term for you - rationing social security. That's what this election is about! If we can get that phrase into the national debate then the debate is on our terms. I would love to see the media arguing whether or not we are rationing social security.
But the rationing doesn't stop there. What about Medicare? We won't be able to afford that either. We are going to have to ration Medicare. We are going to have to ration health care. We are going to have to decide that there just isn't enough money to treat everyone who is sick - so we are going to have to decide as a society who gets treatment and who gets to die on the steps of the hospital.
The - will we have rationed education? Or - will the educational system just collapse? Will we become like a third world country where we have a mostly illiterate population? I think that one of the tings we should be asking in this election - when will America catch up to Cuba when it comes to literacy. Cuba has a better educational system than we do and to we have the will to catch up to our Communist neighbor - or are we going to continue to fall behind Cuba?
What about the future of religion in America? Christian think they are taking over the government but getting vouchers and funning federal money through churches - but in reality the opposite is happening. When churches start receiving tax money - then people who tithe will stop tithing and decided that they are tithing through their taxes. This will cause a fundamental shift in church funding as members break the giving habit. Churches will become dependent on the government for money - and then the government will have control over religion.
If a church is taking government money - for example - and the government says - "We require that you turn over your membership information to the IRS if you want to continue to receive funding. And - you are not allowed to reveal what information you turn over on your members to the membership." - what do you think is going to happen? The churches will have the freedom to give up the money if they choose not to participate - but are they going to be able to pay the bills once they get dependent on those funds? But - you say - "that's not REALLY going to happen - is it?" My response is - "The airline industry is already doing it. (Jet Blue) What makes you think they are going to stop there?" When Uncle Sam writes the checks - Uncle Sam calls the shots. So - the future of freedom of religion is threatened under Bush.
What does the future hold for workers rights? Bush has already eliminated overtime pay in favor of corporate interests. Corporate power over the right of the people is shifting as we go back to owing our souls to the company store. The big guys call the shots and we have to bend over and take it. The government isn't going to stand up for the common man - it is going to control the common man. We will live our lives in fear - just like people did under Hitler and Stalin - and the words "Freedom and Liberty" will become mere marketing slogans to get you to buy Chineese goods at WalMart!
What of freedom of the press when the press is becoming a single Republican controlled entity. The FCC continues to allow mergers giving control of the media to a small group of Republican controlled interests. Thats why America spends more money, time, and attention on Clinton's blow job that on figuring out what happened in 9-11 so that we can prevent it from happening again. Its not that the public's interest controls that - it's that the corps that own the media get bigger tax breaks under Republicans that they do under Democrats.
Even elections are fixed in America. This election will be no exception. Our voting machines are rigged to elect Republicans. We have to get 60% of the real vote to win an election - maybe. Elections are going to go away and we need to stop it. I find it extremely disturbing that we are being cheated and the media isn't talking about it. It just goes to show you how we - on the front lines of the internet - the last place where freedom exists - for now - that we must prevail or we shall forever lose our last chance to do so.
We are at a point where our technology can become the tool to enslave us. There is a technology called RFID - Radio Frequency Identifier Chips - currently the size of a grain of rice and getting smaller. These chip can be implanted in anything - including you - and can be used to track every place you go and everything you do. I'm not trying to sound like some nut case about chips in your brain - but this technology is finding its way into more and more products. People are microchiping their kids so that they can be found if abducted. But that same thing can be required of everyone - and we will see the day soon when that is proposed. It won't be just pets and cattle - it will be everyone.
This technology is not going to go away - so we must look to the future and make decisions about it. The technology exists - or soon will exist - to track everyone in the country and know everywhere you go and everything you do. So what will our future be like. Because we have this technology to track everyone everywhere - do we do that? Or - do we treat it like nuclear weapons - we can blow up the planet - but we choose not to do so.
The Bush administration is developing a system called Total Information Awareness (TIA) to do just that. To track everyone everywhere and everything they do. This election is about the future - so I ask the question - what kind of future do we want? Do we want Total Information Awareness or don't we. Personally - I don't want it. But - this is what this election is about and if we don't talk about it - no one will. But there's no doubt in my mind that this will be our future unless we stop it.
We all have a Common Goal
What this election is about is - what is our future going to be like? We have a common goal even with those we disagree with. There is no person - not one - in America who is better off under Bush. Our common future is at stake in this election. We are a nation in decline and we must reverse course. It may already be too late - but if it isn't too late now - it will certainly be too late in 2008. Things are really bad and they are getting worse. And it's not just getting worse for Liberals, Democrats, Gays, and other so called - scum of the earth. Its getting worse for Heterosexual Christian white God fearing family values Bible thumpers as well. We are all in this together and we all have to figure out what really is going on and what is best for all of us.
So - as I stated up front - and I challenge anyone of any religious or political persuasion to debate me on this - isn't the future the most important issue in the election? Isn't this what is really at stake? So - if we are going to have a political debate - if we are going to have a political dialog - lets make the debate and the dialog what this election is really about - lets talk about what is real - and lets talk about the future.
I therefore declare that the theme for this election is - ITS ABOUT THE FUTURE STUPID!
I've recorded the congressional primary debates for congress in San Mateo county California. I used my digital voice recorder with a $10 external microphone.
Here are the 3 MP3 files.
There is a lot of talk about same sex marriage - but know one is talking about same sex divorce. What's going to happen when these people get tired of being married - then what. Do you just walk away and forget it? No - you're married.
The other side of getting the government to bless your marriage is that you have to go to the government to bless your divorce. And that involves giving everything you own to two crooked lawyers. I'm just waiting to see what happens when a man is ordered to pay allimony to another man who is curruently living with a third man. Welcome to the world of marriage boys!
Be careful what you ask for because you might get it. Out here in the hertero world - we've tried it and it sucks. No one in their right mind would get married if they really understood what they were agreeing to. If you think that the government enhances your relationship then you are full of the illusion - marriage in America and most of the world is a lie. There's no such thing as marriage because the government doesn't enforce the relationship commitment.
It used to be that a person had to have grounds for a divorce or it wasn't granted. The commitment was recognized by the state and it wasn't something you could walk away from when it became inconvienient. But now its just a property agreement - and a really bad one at that. So - once these gay couples are fully and equally married - then they will be able to appreciate the other side of the equasion - to be fully and equally divorced.
How many of these couples will get divorced? Well - among heterosexual marriages - you're looking at 50% to 60% divorce rate. And I'm guessing that the rate will be at least as high or higher for gay couples - taking into account that there are no biological children in the relationship to stay together for.
If it were up to me I would actually restrict marriage further rather than expand it. I would perhaps restrict it to reproducing couples - and - I would require a significant waiting period before a marriage license is granted. And - I would get rid of no fault divorce. Harder to get in - harder to get out. And both parties would have to file asset disclosurs and work out a prenup before they can get that government stamp on thier relationship.
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Allan Greenspan has just confirmed what many people have already known for years - that the Republicans are out to destroy Social Security. We can't touch the big tax breaks for the super rich - says Greenspan. So the next generation of Americans should be preparing to eat dog food when they turn 65. There is no doubt now that 4 more years of Bush and Republicans will end Social Security. America is a nation in decline and denial. It may be already too late to stop the bleeding.
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I don't care if Democrats and Republicans have come together - I'm not going to vote to add 15 billion dollars to the California debt. Its just plain wrong to borrow and spend.
California has all the taxes. We have taxes that other states have never heard of. We have highly paid wage earners here and the state takes in an unreal amount of taxes. So - I say - you have enough money - deal with it.
California has a spending problem and we aren't going to solve it by giving them more money to spend. We need to fix the problem and its going to take a crisis to make that happen. And its not going to get done if we put it off with borrowed money. Its time we face fiscal responsibility and cut up the credit card and start fixing the problem.
If Mr. Schwarzenegger wants to advocate something that would actually turn the California economy around - he should advocate that we need a new president. That's a real solution what will actually work. I'm not willing to vote to go into debt for politics.
Nader is talking big like his against the corporate takeover of America and that Bush was Supremely Selected - refering to Bush's apointment by the Supreme Court. But - back in 2000 when the supreme selection occurred - did Nader protest then? No - not a word! Nader kept his mouth shut like a good little Republican stooge and just let it happen.
In the last weeks of the 2000 election Nader took a lot of donations from Republican sources and targeted states where the election was close between Gore and Bush. None of these states were states where he was close - but he targeted states in a way to draw away support from Gore so as to allow Bush to win. So Nader deliberately put Bush in power - and not he pretends to complain that about the result.
Ralph - you used to be one of the good guys - but you sold your soul to the devil and you are now the enemy. You running has the opposite effect of what you say your goals are - and you are hoping the public is to stupid to figure it out. You are not against the corporate takeover of America - you are part of the corporate takeover of America. Those corporations who you decry will be out the - gathering signatures - to get you on the ballot in all 50 states.
You had a legacy Ralph - and you destroyed it. You sold out - you are now one of the lying leaches who sucks the blood of society for minor personal gain. I am looking forward to seeing where your funding is coming from and exposing you for the fraud you are.
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Ralph Nader - who managed to split the anti-republican vote and get Bush selected as president is running again for the same reason. Nader gives Republicans a chance to donate twice in this year's election. They can give once to Bush - and once to Nader to draw people away from the Democratic nominee. When Nader posts his contributions I'll bet you'll see that the majority of his big contributors will be the same people who are also big contributors to Bush. Nader knows he can't possibly win. The only thing Nader can accomplish is to make sure Bush wins. Nader is very dishonest.
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There really is no difference between deficit spending and tax increases. They are the same thing. A deficit is like a tax charged to your credit card that you have to pay later - with interest. So the idea that we are in some sort of an economic recovery when the deficit is 500 billion a year is nonsense. We are bleeding money and bleeding it really fast. And every year Bush have been president the bleeding gets worse.
We are borrowing money from the future so the rich can get a tax break today. And that is as wrong as you can get. Its time to cut the government's credit card and demand that we make the hard choices now before we get so far in the hole that we never crawl out.
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Was it a coincidence that Dean's campaign took a turn for the worse after Al Gore endorsed him? Al Gore is not the king maker he thinks he is. Gore isn't really a player in the Democratic party these days. Four years ago Gore failed to become president because he separated himself from Clinton in a way that was extremely offensive to Clinton supporters. Then - after Bush stole the election - Gore was the first one to shout down the critics who objected to the Supreme Court stopping the recount process and appointing Bush president.
Dean tried to run as an outsider - but when he accepted the blessing of Al Gore - who is as much an insider as you can get - it ruined Dean's image. Gore's endorsement might have been the "Kiss of Death" for Dean. Makes me wonder if it would be better if Al Gore were to endorse Bush than another Democratic candidate. And Al - please - skip the Democratic convention!
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For what its worth - I had the first Gore for President site on the web. I've got some emails about this letter from Gore supporters pointing out that the news media played up the Dean screech and that's what killed his campaign. But - if you remember - Dean "screeched" after coming in a distant third in Iowa after spending 43 million bucks - so - it wasn't the screech that did that! Clearly Dean had problems before that occurred.
At the time Gore ebdorsed Dean - Dean was #1. Or so it seemed anyhow. Gore came in as "kingmaker" probably to try to take credit for putting Dean over the top. I remember at the time cringing because Dean had a strong campaign and then the day Gore did it I thought - this makes it look like Dean was appointed by insiders - not earned it. Gore turned an outsider campaign into an insider campaign and it fucked it up. And - I was right - Dean dived from that point.
Whatever happened to Dean it happened in a period starting at Gore's endorsement and Dean losing big in Iowa - before he screeched. So - if you disagree with me - you figure it out!
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A few months ago there was a story in the news - that if you searched for "miserable failure" on Google, you got Bush's biography. I've been playing with Google to see what other words return what results and its quite a lot of fun. Micheal Moore's site talking about Bush now replaces the first spot for "miserable failure" Bush is now second. Same results if "miserable" and "failure" are used separately. But anti-bust sites take #1 for the words "AWOL", "chimp" and "worst president ever". If you type in "budget surplus" however - you get a story about Clinton.
Sleeping With the GOP
by Wayne Barrett with special reporting by Adam Hutton and Christine Lagorio
February 5th, 2004 8:20 AM
Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton.
Though Stone and Sharpton have tried to reduce their alliance to a curiosity, suggesting that all they do is talk occasionally, a Voice investigation has documented an extraordinary array of connections. Stone played a pivotal role in putting together Sharpton's pending application for federal matching funds, getting dollars in critical states from family members and political allies at odds with everything Sharpton represents. He's also helped stack the campaign with a half-dozen incongruous top aides who've worked for him in prior campaigns. He's even boasted about engineering six-figure loans to Sharpton's National Action Network (NAN) and allowing Sharpton to use his credit card to cover thousands in NAN costs—neither of which he could legally do for the campaign. In a wide-ranging Voice interview Sunday, Stone confirmed his matching-fund and staffing roles, but refused to comment on the NAN subsidies.
Sharpton denounced the Voice's inquiries as "phony liberal paternalism," insisting that he'd "talk to anyone I want" and likening his use of Stone to Bill Clinton's reliance on pollster Dick Morris, saying he was "sick of these racist double standards." He did not dispute that Stone had helped generate matching contributions and staff the campaign. Asked about the Stone loans, he conceded that he "asked him to help NAN," but attributed the financial aid to his and Stone's joint "fight against the Rockefeller drug laws," adding: "If he did let me use his credit card to cover NAN expenses, fine." The finances of NAN and the Sharpton campaign have so merged in recent months that they have shared everything from contractors to consultants to travel expenses, though Sharpton insists that these questionable maneuvers have been done in compliance with Federal Election Commission regulations.
Sources in Washington D.C. have revealed that Bush 2 administration officials are again seeking to "stimulate" a regime change in Venezuela after a USA-backed coup d'etat against democratically-elected President Hugo Chavez Frias failed when US puppet dictator Pedro Carmona Estanga moved to dissolve parliament, the judiciary and the constitution in one fell swoop.
Our sources (which must remain confidential, but have been verified) say that Venezuelan nationals, recruited on the promise of fast-track US citizenship and benefits, have been trained in the arts of USA terror tactics at the US Army School of Americas-SOA (renamed 3 years ago as the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation-WHISC) at Fort Benning (Georgia) were relocated to training camps at Iquitos in the northern jungles of Peru under the direction of US Southern Command (Latin America & Caribbean) regional HQ at Fort Buchanan (San Juan, Puerto Rico).
SOA/WHISC commanders are said to be "smarting" over their failure to impose a US-backed military/civilian dictatorship in Venezuela in April 2002 when democratically-elected President Hugo Chavez Frias was swiftly returned to power after US-puppet dictator Pedro Carmona Estanga dissolved parliament, the judiciary and Venezuela's constitution in one fell swoop. Carmona Estanga was not able to control the massive surge against him as millions of Venezuelans took to the streets repudiating his imposition and demanding the return of reformist Chavez Frias.
Covert US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives are already in place in Venezuela as the SOA/WHISC prepares for what it is calling "a second bite at the cherry." Bush 2 Latin America 'enforcer' Otto Reich has been holding top level meetings with strategists from the Venezuelan political opposition in Washington D.C. who also had meetings there last week with shadowy Venezuelan billionaire Gustavo Cisneros and former US White House insider Henry Kissinger.
Corrupt Venezuelan Confederation of Trade Unions (CTV) president Manuel Cova and Coordinadora Democratica (CD) representative Timoteo Zambrano have met with senior US State Department officials, including Reich, although both are attempting to whitewash their visit to D.C. as simply a round of information meetings they could equally have held with anti-Venezuelan US Ambassador Charles S. Shapiro at the Colinas de Valle Arriba bunker in Caracas. Cova and Zambrano were also meeting with Organization of American States (OAS) Secretary General, former Colombian President Cesar Gaviria and US congressmen, including Massachussetts Democrat Frank Barney, a member of the secretive US Select Committee on Homeland Security, where he serves on the Subcommittee on Infrastructure & Border Security and the Subcommittee on Intelligence & Counterterrorism.
While, on the face of it, US State Department spokespersons are calling on all side in Venezuela's tumultuous electoral process to respect established norms and procedures, radical opposition meetings with USA-OAS Roger Noriega and Senator Charles E. Shannon have led IC operatives in D.C. to dig deeper into Beltway motives while senior diplomat Peter DeShazo (who recently visited Caracas to speak personally with President Chavez Frias) is seen as having a more mediative role in alliance with former US Ambassador and Latin America expert John Maisto.
Meanwhile, SOA/WHISC troops are hunkered down ready to be drafted into Venezuela as soon as opposition-inspired violence breaks out. US Air Force and Navy contingents are being made ready at a Southern Command base on the Caribbean island of Aruba (Dutch Antilles) to provide logistic and material back-up to an invasion force. A US Navy hospital ship is also said to be on standby to sail to a position off the Venezuela's northern coastline at first signal of "the balloon going up."
The remaining question is no longer IF, but WHEN!
From VHedline.com
I would like to make the arguments in the upcoming Supreme Court case of Unified School District v. Newdow but realistically I don't have the time and money to afford to file a brief. If I were to file - here's some of the arguments I would make.
The Pledge is a law. It is specified in federal code. It is an act of patriotism. "One Nation Under God" is a religious statement and with that statement there it marries patriotism with religion. It forces non-believers who whish to recite the pledge to make a religious affirmation that they don't believe in. The pledge is a statement of national identity. Its much more than a ceremonial or historic thing. It is more like an oath.
The Pledge is distinguished from other less important acts that include the mention of God. It is not merely ceremonial or historic. It is codified into federal law.
Lets look at mathematical sets. The big set is all people of all religions. This can be divided into to subsets - monotheists who believe in exactly one god - and everyone else who believe in multiple gods or no god. The argument is perhaps that there are so many monotheists that we can agree that this is a monotheistic country.
The flaw is that it excludes a class of people - non-monotheists. If it said "Under Jesus" or "Under Allah" or "Under Zeus" or "Under the Sacred Tree of Knowledge" then it would be more exclusive. They would argue that "Under God" is a sufficiently large subset to be close enough to be compliant. But because it is part of the phrase "One Nation - Under God" it ties our national identity to a religious affirmation.
Basically - to have "One Nation Under God" - in the context of the Pledge - is to have government make a determination that god exists. I would ask the court to be required to rule that god exists in order to include it in the Pledge. If the Pledge said "Under Peter Pan" then that would be right because Peter Pan is a fictional character and it would be wrong for the government to include a fictional character in the pledge laws.
God is a fiction character. He is no more real that Peter Pan. There is no logical difference between God and Peter Pan. Now - the court might not agree with that - but that brings up the real issue.
It is not up to the court or the government to determine if God exists. The first amendment prohibits the government from determining religious questions. Religious questions are for Religions to determine. It is up to Marc Perkel, Ferry Falwell, the Pope, the Dalai Lama, and individual citizens to decide that question. Judges and governments do not determine religious issues. It is not their place to do so. It is up to the people - not the government to decide whether or not to believe in God and that decision must be a separate act from pledging one allegiance to the nation.
The First Amendment of the Constitution "Establishment Clause" prohibits the government from establishing religion. Although the court recognized an exception for acts that have become the "fabric of society" in this case tying the pledge to a religious affirmation is designed to alter the fabric of society for the purpose of including government sponsored religious indoctrination to support infecting the fabric of society with the belief in the fictional character God. Including the phrase "One Nation Under God" establishes a government preference for monotheism over other religions.
Those who support the phrase "Under God" argue that is is a recognition of our national history, that the forefathers believed in God and referenced him in important documents. This is all part of the "fabric of society" argument that becuse we are all infected we should just accept the infection and declare we are a nation of people infected with a false belief and keep the infection in society.
As the founder of the Church of Reality I find this argument particulary offensive because the "fabric of society" argument basically say we are required to live the lie and to perpetuate the lie in the Tree of Knowledge. This precludes our Principle of Positive Evolution and the Principle of Bullshit and the very foundation of our church doctrine. To require our children to recite falsehood in order to make a patriotic statement is oppressive.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger broke state law last year when he used a loophole to loan his campaign committee $4 million, a move that prevented voters from knowing before Election Day who would end up paying the governor's campaign bills, a judge ruled late Monday.
Schwarzenegger will probably face no fines as a result of the ruling, but he will be blocked from paying himself back with the more than $3.4 million he has raised since his election and will have to convert the loans into a personal contribution to his campaign.
The millionaire former movie star contributed an additional $4.85 million in cash to his campaign before the Oct. 7 recall election.
Sacramento County Superior Court Judge Loren E. McMaster said Schwarzenegger's use of a loophole to avoid a $100,000 cap that voters imposed in 2000 on candidate loans ``flies in the face of the express purpose of the law.'' He said Schwarzenegger's approach would allow rich candidates to ``evade both the $100,000 loan limitation and the requirement of pre-election disclosure of contributions, while those limitations would apply to candidates of more modest means.''
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Just 3 years ago the Congressional Budget Office was projecting 10 years of surpluses. Under Clinton we dreamed about paying off the national debt by the end of the decade. Now they are projecting 10 years of deficits with this year's deficity setting another record - one half trillion dollars on the red. Cheney says that deficits don't matter. Having gone from the biggest surplus in the history of the world to the biggest deficit in the history of the world in just 3 years make me wonder what Bush is even running again. I'm scared to think what America will be like with 4 more years of Bush.
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It does make you wonder - with America falling apart and governments on the verge of collapse - what will America be like with 4 more years of Bush. Will he succeed in totally destroying this country? Will he start World War 3? Will the deficit rise to 2 trillion dollars a year? The idea is too scary to think about. Maybe I need to plan to move out of the country but in this day and age there's no place that's safe anymore.
From this article in the Times of India.
Bush 'stole' the presidential election: Cherie
PTI[ SATURDAY, JANUARY 24, 2004 08:20:21 PM ]
LONDON : In a forthright view that is likely to embarrass her husband, Cherie Blair, wife of Prime Minister Tony Blair, is reported to have observed that George W Bush "stole" the US presidential election from Al Gore.
"Cherie Blair still believed that Bush had stolen the White House from Gore," author Philip Stephens wrote in his book "Tony Blair: The Making of a World Leader. "
Although Tony Blair was pragmatic about Bush's victory, Mrs Blair was far less sanguine about the Supreme Court decision that gave him the keys to the White House.
She believed Al Gore had been "robbed" of the presidency and was hostile to the idea of her husband "cosying" up to the new President.
Even as they flew to Washington for their first meeting with the presidential couple, Mrs Blair was in no mood to curry favour, the book stated.
The book's disclosures of Mrs Blair's forthright views will cause embarrassment in Downing Street, because of Blair's good working relations with Bush, and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, although they will not surprise officials or ministers who know her well.
I keep seeing reports on the web that bin Laden might be captured and is being held in secret for the election season.
I do a google search on "bin laden captured" and I get several hits about this on foreign web sites. Wonder what the scoop is on this?
NO CHILD'S BEHIND LEFT
The State of the Union's New Educational Eugenics
by Greg Palast
Go ahead, George, and lie to me. Lie to my dog. Lie to my sister. But don't you ever lie to my kids.
Deep into your State of the Siege lecture tonight, long after sensible adults had turned off the tube or kicked in the screen, you came after our children. "By passing the No Child Left Behind Act," you said, "We are regularly testing every child ... and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing."
You said it ... and then that little tongue came out; that weird way you stick your tongue out between your lips like the little kid who knows he's fibbing. Like a snake licking a rat. I saw that snakey tongue dart out and I thought, "He knows."
And what you know, Mr. Bush, is this: you've ordered this testing to hunt down, identify and target for destruction the hopes of millions of children you find too expensive, too heavy a burden, to educate.
Here's how No Child Left Behind and your tests work in the classrooms of Houston and Chicago. Millions of 8 year olds are given lists of words and phrases. They are graded, like USDA beef: some prime, some OK, many failed.
Once the kids are stamped and sorted, the parents of the marked children ask for you to fill your tantalizing promise, to "make sure they have better options when schools are not performing."
But there is no "better option," is there, Mr. Bush? Where's the money for the better schools to take in the kids getting crushed in cash-poor districts? Where's the open door to the suburban campuses with the big green lawns for the dark kids with the test-score mark of Cain.
And if I bring up the race of the kids with the low score, don't get all snippy with me, telling me your program is color blind. We know the color of the kids left behind; and it's not the color of the kids you went to school with at Philips Andover Academy.
You know and I know that the testing is a con. There is no "better option" at the other end. The cash went to the end the inheritance tax, that special program to give every millionaire's son another million.
But you'll tell me, you took tests as a youth. I know you did. And you scored on the Air Guard flight test 25 out of 100, one point above too dumb to fly. But you zoomed past the other would-be flyboys. They were stamped, "Ready for 'Nam." And you took a test to get into Yale. And though your pet rock scored a wee bit higher than you, your grandpa on the Yale board provided the "better option" which got you in.
Here in New York City, your educational Taliban, led by Republican Mayor Bloomberg, had issued an edict to test the third-graders. Winnow out the chaff and throw them back, exactly where they started, to repeat the same failed program another year. In other words, the core edict of No Child
Left Behind is that failing children will be left behind another year. And another year and another year.
You know and I know that this is not an educational opportunity program - because you offer no opportunities, no hope, no plan, no funding. Rather, it is the new Republican social Darwinism, educational eugenics:
Identify the nation's loser-class early on. Trap them, then train them cheap. The system will provide the new worker drones that will clean the toilets at the Yale alumni club, to punch the McDonald's cash registers color-coded for illiterates, to pamper the winner-class on the higher floors of the new service economy order.
Greg Palast is author of, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy," which has returned this week to the New York Times bestseller list. View Palast's writings for Harper's, The Guardian (UK) and BBC television at www.GregPalast.com.
Letter to the Editor
Its interesting to listen to Bush claim that we are fighting a war on terror when he fails to mention Osama bin Laden. Today is 861 days since 9-11 and it would appear that he got away with it. He is free and America is not free. We no longer seem to be investigating the Anthrax attack either.
The war on terror is a sham if we do not pursue those who actually did it. A victory over a fake enemy from a war that was a fraud does not make America safer or more secure. We are living a lie. I say its time to face reality as it really is.
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Fake war - fake security - fake economy - fake news - fake religion - fake election - fake presidency - its all one big fraud!
Letter to NASA
Dear NASA,
As a government agency controlled by the Bush Administration I understand that you are obligated to put the Bush Ad up on your web site. However - the reality is - we are not going to Mars. Bush has absolutely no intension of going there. This is nothing more than a political ploy to win the votes of NASA supporters so that Bush can get reelected and gut the space program.
Surely you people aren't stupid enought to believe this - are you?
Thanks for listening - please pass this email around.
Marc Perkel
First One
Church of Reality
"If its real - we believe in it!"
Letter to the Editor
Any time Bush goes out in public the police remove all the protesters to "Free Speech Zones" - which are in a location where they can not be heard. These are not really "Free Speech Zones" but rather they create "Speech Free Zones" around Bush where free speech is prohibited.
I ask the question - can we really call America a free country when the right to speak is prohibited any place the president goes? Who would have thought that our liberties would be so suppressed and that Americans would stand by - doing nothing - and allow it to happen. Americans are unwilling to fight for the freedom to speak. Lady Liberty is dead - and Bush spits on her grave.
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Freedom is an illusion - no more than a slogan. America is not a free country. We have become the enemy of freedom.
The govenator of California is proposing the we vote for a borrow and spend packages as an alternative to raising taxes. What Republican's don't get that goverment borrowing is a tax. Every dollar borrowed has to be paid back with interest.
California has a lot of fat in the goverment. I think it's time to cut government bullshit and reduce the size of the state payroll. Let's not do this with borrowed money. Let's actually solve the problem - or pay for it by taxing the rich. I'd rather see millionaires pay their share than to burden the public with debt so the rich get a big tax break.
Settlement funnels money to local conservative website on orders of president George Bush. Rightwing website "FreeRepublic" to recieve large settlement from City of Fresno.
This is urgent-read and call the attorney general's office as soon as you can. We must stop this criminal give-away to GOP activists at taxpayer expense.
The City of Fresno has announced it is paying a large settlement to the "FreeRepublic", a right wing conservative website/forum to settle a lawsuit filed by Freerepublic alledging defamation and damage of reputation. Some background on the case:
The case FreeRepublic vs. City of Fresno stems from a bulletin sent to Fresno Police by Fresno Human Relations Commissioner Debbie Reyes regarding an event planned on sept. 13th by the Fresno chapter of FreeRepublic Network. This event, billed by Freerepublic as a picnic/rally was a subject of concern to Reyes as she had been made aware of possible counter-protests to the picnic/rally by activists critical of FreeRepublic Network's harrassment of anti-war activists and general right-wing extremist nature. Ms. Reyes faxed a notice to police that there might be possible conflicts at the event and notified them that FreeRepublic was well known as an organized hate group disguising themselves as patriotic americans. This notice and resulting publicity resulted in the lawsuit naming City of Fresno, Debbie Reyes, and Mayor Alan Autry as defendants. They alledged Reyes fax resulted in defamation and filed suit seeking $1,000,000 compensation.
The very very strange thing in all this is George Bush met with Fresno Mayor Alan Autry on 10/15/2003 and there is good reason to believe this lawsuit by the FreeRepublic Network was the main topic of conversation between the two. The FreeRepublic online forum is a darling centerpiece of the GOP party, the largest and most highly trafficked GOP oriented website in existence. Progressive activists have long suspected FreeRepublic receives under the table covert funding directly or indirectly from the GOP party. So it is quite likely and plausible that when Autry met with Bush and discussed this with him Bush told him to pay off these good old-boy conservatives and get some funds into their hands so they can continue their fight against the left and all things progressive.
It is clear that before any settlement is paid to FreeRepublic an investigation into ties between Mayor Alan Autry and FreeRepublic should be undertaken. He has been supportive of their activitys to a suspicious degree and it is apparent he was very interested in arranging for the city to settle out of court on the lawsuit and quickly get some money into the hands of his fellow patriots at FreeRepublic.
Did Fresno Mayor Alan Autry work at the suggestion of George Bush to supply a large cash settlement to FreeRepublic at taxpayer's expense? Demand an investigation.
Contact:
California State Attoney General
(916)322-3360
From the Toronto Sun. You won't see this in the American Press.
By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor
MIAMI -- Just before New Year, President George Bush and Britain's PM Tony Blair staged what French call a "coup de theatre."
That's Gallic for pulling a political rabbit from one's hat.
The rabbit in question was none other than Libya's Col. Moammar Khadaffy, once reviled as the world's most dangerous man and America's Enemy Number One.
After eight months of secret negotiations with Washington and London, the eccentric Libyan strongman grandly proclaimed his nation was abandoning its weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
Bush, his neo-conservative supporters, and the U.S. media crowed that Khadaffy's surrender confirmed the wisdom of invading Afghanistan and Iraq. The evil Khadaffy had been cowed into giving up his arsenal of deadly WMD.
Other "rogue" states would hasten to follow Libya's lead.
But on closer inspection, there was much less to this drama than met the eye. Khadaffy, in fact, had no viable WMD, contrary to fevered claims by neo-con propagandists.
According to UN inspectors and European intelligence sources, Libya had only small amounts of World War I technology mustard gas, a primitive battlefield weapon.
It had no biological or nuclear weapons. Libya had no means of delivering WMD beyond some rusting Scud-B missiles with only a 180-mile range.
Libya possessed an assortment of nuclear junk: a small research reactor, some lab equipment, and a few inoperative, third-hand centrifuges bought from Pakistan or Malaysia.
There is no sign, at least so far, of any capability to make or deliver WMD.
When I was in Libya interviewing Col. Khadaffy, I found there was not a single elevator repairman in the country.
Bakers had to be imported from Egypt to make bread. Seventy percent of Libya's military equipment was broken down. In short, tiny, backward Libya, with a population of only five million, had no military capability.
However, in the 1980s, Libya certainly did fund all sorts of violent revolutionary groups and was implicated in the bombings of French and U.S. airliners.
After 17 years of punishing sanctions against Libya, Khadaffy sought to improve relations with the West by paying reparations for the airliners, and handing over for trial two agents involved in the 1988 Pan Am bombing.
Now, by pretending to eliminate WMD he does not possess, the colonel has given a huge political bonus to Bush and Blair, a way for them to evade censure for shamelessly lying their nations into the Iraq war. They will reward Khadaffy by halting efforts to overthrow him, slowly lifting sanctions, and allowing U.S. and British oil firms to resume exploiting Libya's high-grade oil. That's politics.
The CIA helped Khadaffy into power in 1969. In the 1980s, the U.S., Britain and France each tried to assassinate him.
Now, it seems the flamboyant colonel with nine lives is slated to be reborn as a good Arab and U.S. ally.
Right after the Libyan charade, Washington opened a major new campaign to deprive Pakistan of its nuclear arsenal. The U.S. media trumpeted leaked government reports alleging Pakistan had secretly supplied Iran, North Korea, and Libya with nuclear technology. These reports blurred the lines between exports of civilian and military nuclear technology.
Washington accused Pakistan of being a major nuclear proliferator. Pakistan nervously admitted some of its nuclear scientists may have privately aided neighbour Iran, which has sought nuclear weapons for the past 28 years.
So far, accusations that past or current Pakistani governments were involved with covert nuclear weapons exports remain unproven. A director general of Pakistan's intelligence agency, ISI, once told me Iran had offered to pay Pakistan's entire defence budget for 10 years in exchange for nuclear technology, but Islamabad refused.
Whatever the case, this whole business is worthy of Alice in Wonderland. Who came down from the mountain to ordain that only the U.S., Russia, Britain, France, China, North Korea, India and Israel are allowed to possess nuclear weapons or sell nuclear technology?
The U.S. is about to build a new generation of earth-penetrating nuclear weapons. China and Russia are working on new nuclear systems.
India is building a very powerful nuclear arsenal and developing intercontinental missiles.
Israel has sold India advanced nuclear warhead and missile technology.
Muslim nations, it appears, are the only ones not allowed to possess WMD.
India used to rightly call this "nuclear apartheid" until President Bush allowed Delhi into the nuclear club.
Now that Iraq has been crushed, the White House's next targets are clearly Iran and Pakistan.
Neither pose any threat to the U.S.
Political and economic pressure on Pakistan will intensify.
President Pervez Musharraf, who has been unfailingly responsive to U.S. demands, may soon be asked to place Pakistan's nuclear weapons under joint U.S.-Pakistani control, a prelude to the total elimination of its nuclear arsenal, scientists, and weapons manufacturing capability.
If Bush were really serious about reducing nuclear weapons, as he claims, instead of building more nukes, he should slash America's still huge, quite useless arsenal of thousands of nuclear warheads.
That would be called leading by example.
But I do like what Clark is saying. Still wondering about a Dean/Clark ticket. Here's some Clark said that I like.
Meeting on Thursday with the Monitor editorial board, Clark said: "I think the two greatest lies that have been told in the last three years are: You couldn't have prevented 9-11 and there's another one that's bound to happen."
Most terrorism experts contend the country has much to do to defend itself against a future attack. However, they say complete security cannot be achieved because of the vast number of potential targets and if civil liberties are to be maintained.
Clark told the Monitor American citizens should not be worried. "Nothing is going to hurt this country — not bioweapons, not a nuclear weapon, not a terrorist strike — there is nothing that can hurt us if we stay united and move together and have a vision for moving to the future the right way."
Letter to the Editor
Secretary of State Colin Powell finally admitted that there's no link between Saddam Husein and al-Qaida. And Bush has quietly withdrawn a 400-member military team it sent to Baghdad to scour Iraq for evidence of weapons of mass destruction. It was all a lie. We went to war and sent our troops to die for nothing. Their lives continue to be wasted for absolutely no reason at all. Republicans complain about Democrats trying to compare Bush to Hitler. Well - the comparison is not entirely unfounded. This war is a fraud!
America is living a lie. The question that we really have to face is - is the American public really that blind. Are we really that clueless that we actually believe everything Bush says? Well - if you're fool enough to believe we have a reason to be in Iraq then you'll probably believe Bush's next story that we're sending a man to Mars!
Listen to this Audio Clip I made about how sorry the American Press is.
And Another One comparing Mars to Iraq.
Had to go to the Irish Times to find this. You won't see this in the Bush controlled American Press.
US calls off search for weapons of mass destruction
The Bush administration has quietly withdrawn a 400-member military team it sent to Baghdad to scour Iraq for evidence of unconventional weapons, write Conor O'Clery in New York & Deaglán de Bréadún in Dublin.
The move indicates that the US does not now expect to find illegal weapons, the main reason given by President Bush for the war last year that toppled Saddam Hussein.
At the same time, a prestigious Washington-based research foundation, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, has published a scathing report on President Bush's case for war.
The US weapons team, whose withdrawal was reported yesterday by the New York Times, is the key unit of a 1,400-member US survey group sent to find weapons of mass destruction. Head of the group Mr David Kay is in Washington with his deputy, Gen Keith Dayton, and may quit his post soon, the paper also reported.
Most of the dozens of linguists and intelligence analysts assigned to the team, known as the Joint Captured Material Exploitation Group, have been transferred to anti-insurgency duties, a senior US Defence Department official said.
The newspaper said that, according to a senior official, the search for Iraqi weapons remains "the primary focus" of the survey group. But the official acknowledged that most of the new linguists and intelligence analysts to join the team had recently been given assignments combating the Iraqi insurgency rather than searching for weapons of mass destruction.
US analysts are still wading through a "10-mile high" cache of Iraqi documents stored in Qatar for evidence of weapons programmes, according to US officials.
The Carnegie report, WMD in Iraq: Evidence and Implications, which the endowment regards as the "first comprehensive review of everything we knew" said that President Bush's case for war was "deeply flawed" and compromised the intelligence community.
"Administration officials systematically misrepresented the threat from Iraq's WMD and ballistic missile programmes," said the report. They lumped nuclear, chemical and biological weapons together as a single threat, despite the "very different" danger they posed, which distorted the cost/benefit analysis of the war, it said.
Senior EU security sources expressed grave concern over the findings. "It is very dangerous to manipulate the intelligence community." They added that it would be very unhelpful: "If people get the impression that the intelligence community is being used politically." The Carnegie Endowment analysts were "serious" people and what they were saying was "very, very troubling".
The findings come when the EU-US relationship has been going through a relatively positive phase with all sides trying to put disagreements behind them.
US Secretary of State Mr Colin Powell acknowledged yesterday that he had seen no "smoking gun, concrete evidence" of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, but responding to questions about the Carnegie report insisted that Iraq had had dangerous weapons and needed to be disarmed by force.
Meanwhile, nine people, all believed to be US soldiers, died yesterday when a Black Hawk helicopter crashed near Falluja which has been the centre of sustained resistance to the US occupation. The US also disclosed that one soldier was killed and 34 others were wounded in a mortar attack on a US military base west of Baghdad late on Wednesday.
Earlier yesterday, around 60 Iraqi prisoners were freed from the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, west of Baghdad, in a goodwill gesture by the US army.
It a double standard when it come to mad cow disease. When Canada had a single case of Mad Cow the US banned all beef from Canada.
Now remember - this was ONE COW and they banned the cattle from the entire country of Canada. And that happened back in May of 2003.
Now only 7 months later we find exactly the same thing here in the United States. So what do we do? Well - if we were to be consistent we would ban all US beef until we get to the bottom of this - but nooooo - when we do it - it's no big deal - the meat is safe. Nothing to worry about.
So - let me see here - if the cow come from Canada it's dangerous. But if it's an American cow - it's not. hmmmmmmmm .....
To my amazement here in the US we finally decided to prohibit the sale of meat from cattle who are too sick to walk. Little did I know that it was common practice here to sell cattle as food that are seriously ill from unknown diseases to be put on the tables and fed to American children. But - the cattle lobby has it's infestments in the right politicians who don't give a fuck about the people who they are sworn to serve.
So - the way I see it - this is something that may be good for America because it exposes the truth and if the cattle industry suffers then that's what the bastards have comming for serving us sick meat.
Letter to the Editor
I'm making it a new years resolution to be more patriotic this year by doing whatever I have to do to get Bush out of the Whitehouse and restore freedom and democracy to America.
It's been almost 4 long years since Bush stole the election. Since then we went from the biggest surplus in the history of the world to the biggest deficit in the history of the world. Peace and prosperity turned into war and poverty. Liberty and Freedom gave way to Homeland Security and the government spying on everything we do. We not send our sons to die in a war in Iraq that has turned out to be a fraud. Freedom and Patriotism are merely marketing slogans and America is shunned in the world community.
America used to be a great nation. We can restore it to the way it used to be. We can go back to the days where the president is elected by the people and not appointed by the supreme court. I want all of you to make it a new year's resolution to rebuild our nation and make America a nation of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Letter to the Editor
As with so many other events in the Bush administration - it turns out that the capture of Saddam Hussein was in fact faked. Yes - Saddam is in custody - but it was the Kurds who had captured him - drugged him - and stuck him in the hole waiting for the Americans to show up in a made for television event. The revelation of this phony story as revealed by a Yahoo news story caused the Bush administration to raise the political threat level to Orange.
This phony capture is just the latest in a string of phony events to justify Bush's phony war - the hunt for phony weapons of mass destruction - and going all that way back to Bush's phony 2000 election. If you believe any of these phony stories then I have a story about a phony economic recovery for you to listen to.
Are you better off than you were four years ago? That's one of the questions I hope the media will ask. I certianly am asking it and I want to ask everyone else to ask it. We've gone from peace and prosperity to war and poverty and - is that Bush's fault? Damn right it is. Kids are growing up today without even knowing what the word "surplus" means. We used to have law and order. We used to have a much smaller government. that wasn't tapping our phones and following us around everywhere. We need to stop the bleeding and turn America around. And that means getting rid of Bush and doing whatever it take to make that happen.
This is a real picture of our current Secretary of Defense, Donnald (Rummy) Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. The picture was taken during the Reagan Administration after Saddam supposedly gassed the Kurds. Back then we didn't care about that because Saddam was on "our side" and - after all - we gave him the gas. So - isn't it a little late for us to get moralistic about that issue when Rummy has his hands dirty?
Saddam is a bad guy and he deserves to die. But the real threat to the world right now is Bin Laden, Ariel Sharon, and George W. Bush.
With the capture of Saddam Hussein a tyrant has finally been brought down. But there are still two tyrants left that we need to rid the world of - Osama bin Laden - and the most menacing tyrant of them all - George W. Bush.
It's been 824 days since 9-11. Bin Laden is still free - are you?
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Capturing Saddam is a good thing. He is a mass murderer who gassed his own people with the gas we gave him to gas Iranians. America doesn't take kindly to mass murderers who murder people other than the ones we want them to.
But seroiusly - Saddam was only a local threat to the people of his own country. The real threat to the world is George W. Bush who stole the election and is now occupying the United States. We too need to be liberated before he continues to spread war and poverty around the world.
There is no honor in the defeat of Iraq. We disarmed them and at the end suckered them into giving up their few remaining weapons. What honor is there when the strongest nation beats an unarmed country?
OK - so I'm going to go ahead and make my endorsement. I have come to the conclusion that Dean was the winner months ago - but it's time I said it. If it were close between the candidates then I would say - let the best man win. But - it's not close - so I'm going to declare Dean the winner.
Why Dean - well, first - let's start the process on emimination. Al Sharpton is just a political opportunist who came to fame over the faked Twanna Brawly incident. Like Jesse Jackson, he's another Martin Luther King wannabe. And not nearly as good at it as Jackson. But - he does add entertainment to the debate.
Gephardt, Lieberman, Edwards and Kerry all voted for Bush's war. All of them giving Bush a Monica. If we're going to be stuck in Iraq - we already have the right president for that.
Dick Gephardt - he might as well be Bush's cheerleader who stumped hard for Bush to get his Iraq war. He has this funny idea that he can beat Bush by sucking up to him. Gephardt is little more than a whore for unions and definitely does not have the vision thing. He's part of the problem - not the solution.
Joe Lieberman - extreme right wing Jew and religious whaco. Plays the holocaust card every chance he gets. His politics is about the same as the right wing kabal leading Israel who like Bush want to get into a religious war of mutual extermination. Lieberman has yet to figure out that it's a 7 day a week job - not 6. And - if Gore had picked Kerry instead of Lieberman - Bush wouldn't be in the whitehouse today.
Speaking of Kerry - I like him - he's interesting. Too bad he voted for Bush's war. Kerry was probably passed over because he had Clinton's libedo before he married the Heinz widdow and became a billionaire.
Then there's John Edwards. Good looking guy - but he too voted with Bush for the war. And - he's a lawyer and even though he covers it well - I keep hearing the lawyer double speek half twised truth thing that lawyers are trined to do - and I'm no fan of lawyers.
Carol Mosly Braun - an obscure candidate from Chicago who was swept to power with Clinton winning a senate seat in 1992. I can't remember if she was defeated in 1998 or was in the middle of some scandal, but, she's just to obscure.
Likewise - there's Dennis. Last name is to long and doesn't fit well on a bumper sticker. He's a good guy - he gets it on the war issue - but too far left and way to obscure - basicly - not much to get excited about.
I almost forgot Clark - as several people have pointed out. I like Clark. I think he's a good guy and I would be glad if he becomes part of Deans team. But Clark has one serious flaw and that he's never held public office before. And going form noting to president is just too big of a step. Of course - as compared to Bush anyone would make a good president. Another reservation is that I just don't trust military thinking in a civilian leadership job. Unlike some candidates, I could support Clark - but as compared to Dean - Dean wins.
And - who does that leave? Dean! Fortunately he's not a loser too. Like Clinton - he's strong - on top of things - and has the vision thing. He gets it about the war. Something very few of his rivals do. And - he's a doctor - not a lawyer. Much rather have a doctor as president.
I could go on - and I will at some date in the future - but for now I am announcing that Dean is my choice.
If however - for some reason he doesn't win - my real candidate is ANYONE BUT BUSH! Someone asked me if I would vote for Satan for President. My response is - not in the primary.
I'm a Dean supporter, and I think Dean will be the nominee and will be a good president. But I think Gore endorsing Dean was wrong.
Especially after the last election you would think that no matter what the preferences are that it is important for the people to make the choice rather than power handed from one political insider to another. At this stage of the game it's important for a candidate to crawl ahead on his own and not be blessed by the machine.
Gore is an extremely short sighted man who just doesn't get it. Gore has yet to figure out that the election was stolen from him and he still thinks it's Clinton's fault he isn't president. I think Gore endorsed Dean for his own personal selfish reasons and wants to be called a kingmaker and use it for his own influence in the future. Maybe to get to be a vice president again. Who knows.
In contrast - the Clinton, who I'm sure have a preference, are staying out of the process and letting the people decide. If Clinton were to endorse Dean it would be all over. If Clinton were to endorse Clark it would be a real race. But Clinton isn't as short sighted as Gore and he is someone who sees the big picture.
Al Gore really has no serious political clout of his own. Before 1992 he was little more than an obscure senator who, like Bush, was groomed for politics by his father. Gore ran for president in 1988 and was in deal last place when he dropped out of the race. Gore wasn't anyone until Clinton picked him and Gore's political power came from Clinton.
In the 2000 presidential race Clinton handed Gore the ball and he fumbled it. During the campaign Gore was more insulting to Clinton than Bush was and became his own man. Gore could have easilly won if he just said, "I'm Bill Clinton without Monica", but he didn't. He distanced himself from Clinton and he failed to win. (Yes - technically he won - but he failed to fight for it and still shouts down critics like me who cliam the election was stolen).
But - getting back to my point - Gore no longer has much political power. His has blown the power Clinton gave him and now looks like a clueless fool. Gore endorsing Dean is barely a boost if that. If Gore had endorsed anyone else Dean would still be in the lead. But I'm sure Gore will take credit for it just like Gore takes credit for all kinds of things he had little to do with.
So - I think Gore should get together with Bob Dole and do some Viagra comercials together or something. He had his shot and he blew it. So it's time to get off the stage.
On a side note - Lieberman is rather amusing. If Gore had endorsed Lieberman - do you think he would be honest enough to denounce Gore the way he is - or would he be singing a different tune? I'm surprized he isn't calling Gore an anti-semite!
According to This Article on MSNBC our selected VP likes to slaughter birds for fun.
THE INCREASINGLY low-profile V.P. was taken to Pittsburgh by Air Force Two earlier this week where his “security detail loaded him and his favorite shotgun into a Humvee,” and went to Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. There, he and nine other hunting buddies shot at 500 ringneck pheasants, killing 417 of them. The V.P. was credited with offing 70 of the birds, as well as an unknown number of mallard ducks.
The shooting spree prompted an outraged letter from the Humane Society. “This wasn’t a hunting ground. It was an open-air abattoir, and the vice president should be ashamed to have patronized this operation and then slaughtered so many animals,” Wayne Pacelle, a senior vice president of The Humane Society of the United States, wrote in a letter of protest, according to ThePittsburghChannel.com. “If the Vice President and his friends wanted to sharpen their shooting skills, they could have shot skeet or clay, not resorted to the slaughter of more than 400 creatures planted right in front of them as animated targets.”
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I'm hardly a vegetarian and I'm not against hunting. But this was hardly hunting. It was a killing orgy for people who like to shoot things just to watch them die. I guess it's what you do for fun when your job involves sending troops to Iraq to do that to children. It reflects on the character of the man and the character of the Bush administration. These people kill for fun. Nothing more.
Today is election day in San Francisco. I'm endorsing Matt Gonzalez for mayor and Terence Hallinan for Prosecuting Attorney.
In San Francisco the right wing is the Democrats and the left wing is the Green Party. This is a city where nepotism and insider control has gone wild and the Democratic establishment is stealing billions of dollars of taxpayer money to line their cronies pockets. I'm not normally a Green supporter - especially after Nader - but I think it's time to stick it to the man and get someone new elected. I mean after all - when you have a dense population of the richest people in the world and there still isn't enough money to pave the streets - it's time for change.
Terence Hallinan on the other hand is probably the most progressive prosecutor in the country. I first saw him in person after Bush's Nazi's raided a legal medical marijuana outlet. Terence stood up and spoke at the protests and denounced the federal government. Violent crime in San Francisco has dropped faster than any other California city and it's because in part that he's doing a good job. And - he's the only one standing up to the crooked police chief who is uninterested in enforcing police conduct when cops go out on the street and beat up random people just for their amusement.
The Democrats are so desparate to control San Francisco that they even brought out Al Gore and the Clinton to endorse Gavin Newsom for mayor. And I usually vote with Clinton - but Newsom is part of the machine and the machine is broken here. And - I'm not loyal to the Democratic Party. I vote based on who is best for The People and the political hacks better get used to it.
In this case the persons who is best for the People of San Francisco is Matt Gonzalez and Terence Hallinan. And I urge everyone in San Francisco to go out and vote for these two fine people.
Terror futures market back in business
Web site says trading will open in March 2004, free of U.S. government influence.
November 17, 2003: 4:26 PM EST
By Mark Gongloff, CNN/Money Staff Writer
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - A U.S. government plan to create a market allowing traders to bet on the likelihood of terror attacks and other events in the Middle East has been revived by the private firm that helped develop it.
The market, called the Policy Analysis Market (PAM), will allow traders to buy and sell contracts on political and economic events in the Middle East, including assassinations, the overthrow of regimes and terrorist attacks. The market is scheduled to start trading next spring.
It originally was developed and funded with the assistance of the Defense Department, where officials cited the uncanny ability of other futures markets to predict election results, weather patterns and other complex events.
This should be interesting. Let's see = if I bet that the US Economy is going to collapse, can I get paid in some other currency than dollars?
Or - maybe we should privatize Social Security and bet the money on the terror futures market?
This kind of policy even makes Republicans miss Clinton!
Heated public criticism forced the Pentagon to end its association with the project, but its Web site, which was idle for several months, now has an announcement saying it will be open for business in March 2004.
The Pentagon's partners in the venture would have been San Diego-based market technology firm Net Exchange and the Economist Intelligence Unit, publisher of the Economist magazine. The Economist is no longer involved, and Net Exchange is pursuing the venture alone, according to its president, Charles Polk.
In response to the highly charged criticisms that ended the Pentagon's association with the project, Polk noted the market is designed mainly as a research tool, not unlike the Iowa Electronics Markets, which have done a pretty good job of predicting the outcomes of presidential elections.
"It is potentially an interesting alternative to Gallup polls or to specialists reporting from the region," Polk said. "It's a way of going directly to individuals in the region or outside who have knowledge or interest in the political and economic events in the area."
Polk said Net Exchange would initially limit the amount of money traders could invest in the market, so that people won't be profiting from violence or upheaval in the region.
What's more, the futures contracts would be based on general questions, such as the likelihood that the King of Jordan will be overthrown at some point during the second quarter of 2004, for example, rather than on specific acts or events, which could lend themselves to manipulation by terrorists.
"There are no financial incentives for nefarious activities," Polk said.
These were the kinds of concerns that drove much of the criticism of the project this summer. Democrats expressed moral outrage at the prospect of a "betting parlor on atrocities and terrorism," in the words of Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, while Republicans -- including Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz -- acknowledged the project subjected the Bush administration to charges of callousness.
But after the project was shelved, some observers expressed disappointment, saying the market could be useful and citing the accuracy of the Iowa futures markets, TradeSports' Saddam Hussein futures market and others. Net Exchange said "many individuals" encouraged it to start the project up again.
Former Admiral John Poindexter, who was forced to leave the Pentagon in part because of his association with the project, will not be involved in the market, Polk said.
Just released for television - Terminator 4 - Inauguration Day begins tomorrow. The series is a made for television movie that will be shown in clips on the local news.
The plot - the future is altered by a political coup at the begining of the 21st century. An actor siezed control of the California governorship that leads to the eventual takeover by the machines. To honor the causal event the machines build thenselves in the actor's image. The movie will be directed by Dick Cheney and produced by Kenneth Lay.
The star of the movie - Arnold Schwarzenegger - plays the part of the governor and the machines made in his image. When asked about the making of the movie Arnold replied, "I don't understand why this movie is going to take three years to make." Arnold also commented that it was highly unusual to show the movie on television while it was being filmed. The director told Arnold not to worry about it and handed him his script for tomorrow's series premier.
Letter to the Editor
We are hearing in the news that we are in an economic recovery and that we have strong economic growth. Is this true? I really doubt it. I think that the Bush controlled media is trying to pull yet another illusion and create a recovery where there is none.
First - the Christmas season is not a recovery. Stores hire more people temporarilly for Christmas.
Second - the spending of another 87 billion dollars on Iraq is not a recovery. That borrowed money that is being wasted. Spending money on Iraq is the economic equivelent of buying Crack Cocaine with a Credit Card. It does not add to the economy.
What is the real test for recovery? We have nearly a 1/2 trillion dollar deficit and the deficit has almost doubled since last year. The economy has lot 3 million jobs since Bush took office. Get past that and we'll talk about economic recovery.
If there was any dounbt that the right wing controls the media - their influence at CBS is an example that tends to prove it. Without ever seeing the film it was pulled under pressure. Free speech in America is deal - save for the Internet.
So - the right wing has so much control of the media that you can't even talk about the Reagans. Now - for those who think this may be about content - well - it's not. You see - thos was blocked before it was even finished - and no one who opposed it saw what it was about. But they suspected what it might be about (the truth) and made sure it never got shown.
President George W. Bush stood before a cheering crowd at a Dallas Christian youth centre last week, and told them about being 'born again' as a Christian.
'If you change their heart, then they change their behaviour. I know,' he said, referring to his own conversion, which led to him giving up drinking.
Behind Bush were two banners. 'King of Kings', proclaimed one. 'Lord of Lords', said the other. The symbolism of how fervent Christianity has become deeply entwined with the most powerful man on the planet could not have been stronger.
Few US Presidents have been as openly religious as Bush. Now a new book has lifted the lid on how deep those Christian convictions run. It will stir up controversy at a time when the administration is keen to portray its 'war on terror' as non-religious.
The book, which depicts a President who prays each day and believes he is on a direct mission from God, will give ammunition to critics who claim Bush's administration is heavily influenced by extremist Christians.
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The book also shows that in the lead-up to announcing his candidacy for the presidency, Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.
Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
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Amazingly - when Bush became president - I and millions of other people also had a preminition of a national disaster happening. What an amazing coincidence!!
Did God want Bush to be president? hmmmmmm .... If he did - then this isn't a democracy and we don't really have free choice because God is working behind the seens to fix elections. I'm begining to wonder if God wrote the software for electronic voting machines because in places where the republican backed companies have installed their machines - miracles have happened where Republican's have unexpectedly won elections. And - as we know - only God can create miracles.
So - if God picked Bush then is God responsible for the results? Is God going to pay Bush's national debt? Is God going to create jobs?
The problem with God is that God just isn't very good with money. That's why God is always having to panhandle. Similarly, God picks people who are fiscally irresponsible. God doesn't do well picking presidents - if Bush's claim is true. Now God has us mired down in a religious war with Iraq leving us stuck with the results.
I say that if God wants to pick the president - then he should be required to at least register to vote.
Amen!
Bush Disavows Mission Accomplished Banner - Link
WASHINGTON - Six months after he spoke on an aircraft carrier deck under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished," President Bush (news - web sites) disavowed any connection with the war message.
The phrase has been mocked many times since Bush's carrier speech as criticism has mounted over the failed search for weapons of mass destruction and the continuing violence in Iraq (news - web sites).
When it was brought up again Tuesday at a news conference, Bush said, "The `Mission Accomplished' sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished."
"I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from my staff — they weren't that ingenious, by the way."
That explanation hadn't surfaced during months of questions to White House officials about proclaiming the mission in Iraq successful while violence continued.
The president's appearance on the Abraham Lincoln, which was returning home after service in the Persian Gulf, included his dramatic and much-publicized landing on the ship's deck.
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But a Whitehouse.gov web page tells a different story.
I am happy to see you, an so are the long-suffering people of Iraq. America sent you on a mission to remove a grave threat and to liberate an oppressed people, and that mission has been accomplished. (Applause.)
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It turns out that the Whitehose DID have the sign made and now Bush has caught lying about it. So - not only is the mission not accomplished - but Bush is trying to rewrite history, on the 777th day that Bin Laden is still at large.
CNN gave Bush the Political Play of the Week for sucking up to the Jewish vote. It started when Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said, "The Europeans killed six million Jews out of twelve million, but today these Jews rule the world by proxy, "Mahathir said. "They get others to fight and die for them."
After 4 days of silence on the subject, according to CNN, Bush met with the prime minister "privately" (if it was private - then why do we all know about it?) denouncing his remarks about Jews "wrong and divisive."
According to CNN, "The White House made sure the president's private comments got plenty of attention."
CNN goes on to award Bush the Political Play of the Week stating:
Republicans see an opening with Jews.
"There is a big bid afoot in the Jewish community to make the case that President Bush is the best president for Israel ever," Kessler said.
The GOP saw a payoff in last year's midterm elections.
Nationwide, Jewish support for Republican House candidates had mostly been in the 30 percent range during the 1980s.
In the 90s, GOP support among Jewish voters fell.
Then suddenly last year, the Jewish Republican vote went back up to 35 percent.
Jews make up only 3 percent of voters nationwide. But, they are a major source of campaign money for Democrats.
Republicans are not as dependent on Jewish contributions. But they may have another motive. "It's about peeling off money that might go to the Democrats," Kessler said.
Especially now that Bush has spoken out against an outrageous, anti-Semitic slur.
"Whether you want to say he did it too late or he did not do it loud enough or whatever, he did it," concluded Kessler.
And it was the political Play of the Week.
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So - let me see if I understand this. Muslims accused Jews of ruling the world by proxy, and Bush gets political play of the week by showing Jews that he is willing to act as their proxy by denouncing the very statement that his own actions are proving to be true.
hmmmmmmmmm ......
I sure hope that Jews aren't foolish enough to buy this.
Furthermore - what Israel is doing to the Palistinians is wrong. I've given this a lot of thought and the excuse that "they did it to us first" or "they are more guilty" just doesn't cut it. Here's why:
First - let's assume the above two statement are true - so what? Israel is not just targeting enemy combatants. They are targeting innocent civilians who are just trying to live their lives in peace. They are knowingly killing innocent men, women, and children, bulldosing their homes, bulldozing their medical clinics, bulldosing their crops, all in order to terrorize them. Is there any chance that this behaviour will lead to peace? None! Will it make Israelies safer? Absolutely not! Is there any upside to Israel's behaviour that will help anyone on either side? No!
Therefore what the government of Israel is doing is wrong regardless of any other factors and it is the duty of the good peace loving people of the planet to resist this and say No to the right wing government of Israel. This is wrong and I speak out against it.
War and the slaughtering of innocent people is always a thing to be ashamed of. War is always a result of the failure of peace. And for those who would call my coments anti-semitic - well - I challenge you then to explain how what I say is worse for Jews than the actions of the Israeli government who is playing the Holocaust card as an excuse for murder and doing so in the name of Judiasm.
I ask you this question - are Jews a people of Peace or a people of War? Is it beyond the ability of Jews to live in peace with Palistinians? Or - is driving Pailistinians from their homes and killing innocent people the only solution? And - do you really think that you are the chosen people and that God supports this kind of behaviour? Well - if you do then God is pretty fucked up.
I'm not the one who's anti-semitic here - the right wing Israeli government is. Judiasm is a religion in denial - and it's time to wake up and join the real world!
I'm a little confused about why Lieberman is running as a Democrat. Being that he supports just about everything Bush does and wants to appoint McCain as Secretary of Defense - why doesn't he just run as a Republican? The only thing worse than a clueless moron Republican is a Democrat trying to emulate a clueless moron Republican.
Lieberman voted for the Patriot Act, voted to give Bush unlimited war powers, suported Bush's war in Iraq while Bush is still looking for the reason we're there, and now wants to give Bush another $87 billion without a clue as to how it will be spent.
If I wanted a president like Bush then why not vote to reselect Bush? Lieberman will not be getting my vote.
As I stated earlier - the Bush controlled media deliberately avoids coverage of anti-war protests. And when they do - they always lie about the numbers. There's actually a formula you can apply to determine the real numbers at an anti-war protest. Generally the event sponsors (International ANSWER) overcount and the media undercount.
Having been to about 10 of these you'll find that the media reduce the count to 10 to 20 percent of the real numbers. So if they say "hundreds" of people - then there were "thousands" of people. If they say 2000 people protested it's usually 15,000 to 20,000.
The organizers fudge the numbers a little to in my opinion - but not by much. They reported 20,000 in San Francisco - I put the number around 15,000. But - they may be right and I may be wrong.
In the news - CBS lies about the numbers of protesters.
To chants of "Impeach Bush," thousands of anti-war protesters (100,000 is the real number - CBS should have said "tens of thousands") rallied in the nation's capital Saturday and delivered a scathing critique of President Bush and his Iraq policy.
Hundreds of people (20,000 is the real number I WAS THERE! - CBS should have at least said "thousands") marched in San Francisco in a demonstration that mirrored the larger one in Washington.
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CBS furthers the lie with this statement:
Organizers expected more than 30,000 would turn out for the protest, but the crowd - which filled the area between the monument and the Ellipse near the White House - appeared much smaller.
Because the U.S. Park Police no longer issues crowd estimates, the size of the crowd could not be verified.
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So - it raises the question - why does CBS lie about the turnout size? Why is it important to CBS to reduce the size of the crowd by a factor of 10?
Associated Press in their coverage by By Jennifer C. Kerr like CBS claim "Hundreds of anti-war protesters also took to sun-drenched streets in San Francisco." Deliberately reducing the number of protestors. AP goes on to claim, "Organizers estimated that 100,000 people turned out for the demonstration, but police at the scene put the number much lower, from 10,000 to 20,000. Police no longer issue official crowd estimates, so the size of the protest could not be verified."
At least they reported the organizers totals, but they published the police totals even though they say that they don't issue crowd estimates.
MSNBC in their story didn't mention numbers of protestors but said, "Before the rally, about 200 protesters played songs, listened to drummers and rallied for peace in a park about 20 blocks north of the White House." leaving the reader wth the inpression that there were only 200 protestors.
Reuters had no story.
ABC news has a mere Three Paragraphs not mentioning any city other than Washington and just stating "thousands".
CNN comes closer in their story. They fail to number the turnout in Washington, but at least that state that San Francisco had "biggest protest there since April, when more than 10,000 people filled the streets". More than 10,000 is in stark contrast to CBS News claim of "hundreds".
Several news articles included this phrasing, "Organizers expected more than 30,000 would turn out for the protest, but the crowd — which filled the area between the monument and the Ellipse near the White House — appeared much smaller." Looks like they are all drinking the same KoolAid.
The real question raised here isn't about what did or didn't happen at the protest. It's about why the mainstream media is concealing this information from the public. It's about censoring the news so that the public won't find out what's really going on. And the real question is - why are they doing it? What are the forces that keep the media in the pocket of the Bush Family Evil Empire? (BFEE)
Letter to the Editor
I am somewhat puzzled not by what I hear in the news - but by what I no longer hear in the news. Are we no longer going after Bin Laden? Are we no longer going after Saddam Husein? Are we no longer trying to find the anthrax killer? Are we no longer pursuing the 9-11 money trail to find those who financed the hijackers?
I don't understand why the government and the media are no longer talking about these unsolved mysteries of great national importance. It make me wonder - did we give up? Are we beaten? Or - have deals been made. The silence on these issues is scarier than the issues themselves.
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My take on it - deals have been made. We already know from this article in the Times of India that Bush made a deal with Pakistan not to go after Bin Laden. So - we start 2 wars and the guy who is actually behind 9-11 gets to go free. Bin Laden is free - are you?
Then there's Saddam. We were pursuing him - hot on the trail. Closing in on him - and then - silence. What the hell happened? I don't remember Saddam being captured or killed - so - what is the status of the chase?
Then there's the anthrax killer - who I believe was the government itself. Some covert CIA operation to keep Congress and the public scared long enough to pass the Patriot Act. And the thing that makes me believe that the most is that we are no longer going after whoever did it.
And then - 9-11. Usually after a national tragety where lots of people are killed it is investigated ad nauseam. They want to know every detail to ensure that it never happens again. But in 9-11 - the Bush administration is actively blocking the investigation. Why would they block it rather than want to get to the bottom of it? We haven't hear anything about who's behind 9-11 since Bush redacted 28 pages of the report that exposed or "allies" in Saudi Arabia as the ones whoi funded it.
What's even scarier is that the press is totally under Bush's control because they are the ones who are actually doing the "not talking". When Clinton got a haircut on a runway in LA - they talked about it for 2 months. The only thing that filally shut them up about it was when they found out their story never happened. But Bush lets Saddam and Bin Laden go - and the press goes along with it. What does that tell you?
We are a country in denial and if we don't come out of denial our future will follow that of Hitler's Germany - the kind of nightmare that George Bush's grandfather Prescot Bush Financed. A story that is finally surfacing only 60 years later.
Bin Laden still free - Day 775 since 9-11.
Column: in Defense of Free Speech
Fri October 24, 2003 08:42 PM ET
By Keith Girard, Billboard Editor-in-Chief
NEW YORK (Billboard) - Free speech is a precious right. Nowhere is that more evident than in countries where the world's dictators rule.
Almost without exception, the first victim of dictatorship is freedom of expression. Those in power cannot tolerate dissent. As we've seen in countries as diverse as Iraq, North Korea and Cuba, dissidents are frequently jailed -- or worse.
Free speech is one of the cornerstones of the world's democracies. When the Founding Fathers gathered to draft a Bill of Rights to the Constitution, it's no surprise that the protection of free speech and the establishment of religion were foremost in their minds.
Under the King of England, they had experienced religious and political repression firsthand. They realized that a free and unfettered political dialogue would be critical to the functioning of a government based on the rule of law and the political will of the people.
While we're not normally given to providing civics lessons in this space, we think it's important to do our part to remind readers about the importance of our "first freedom." After all, artistic expression is the first cousin of political expression, and that's something that concerns us greatly.
In a time of national crisis, as the nation moves toward a potentially divisive election campaign, some may find it politically expedient to question the loyalty of or brand as "un-American" those who question our government's policies.
We saw evidence of that ugly trend earlier this year, when the Dixie Chicks became the victims of an organized campaign of retribution for speaking out against the government.
Even so, a number of artists are putting their careers at risk to let their voices be heard.
Last week, we reported on efforts by Alanis Morissette and others to raise awareness about the government's environmental policies. We were disappointed to see Interior Department spokesman Mark Pfeifle raise the fact that Morissette is Canadian, as if to suggest that her national origin disqualifies her from expressing her opinion.
This week, John Mellencamp became the latest artist to speak out. He questioned the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq.
"It is not just our 'right' but also our duty to speak out and voice our thoughts and opinions," he wrote in a personal message posted on his Web site. "How, then, was it possible that, in the land of freedom, those who opposed the common opinion were called ... 'un-American?"'
We share his concern.
As Bob Dylan once said, "I think of a hero as someone who understands the degree of responsibility that comes with his freedom." Chief among them is the responsibility to speak out without fear of retribution when you believe your government is wrong.
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I just hope they don't sue me for printing the whole article. Can you imagine - getting sued over printing an entire article defending free speech. In spite of the current interpretation of copyright law - there are things posted to the Internet that are clearly intended to be spread. And this article is clearly one of them. Even though there is a copyright statement on it - it's the same one they put on all their articles. But the content of the article itself has an urgency to get the word out about free expression and I interpret that as permission to repost all of it.
By Stan Crock Link
If you want to see how cynical President Bush growing legion of critics are about the Administration's Iraq policy, take a gander sometime at the electronic newsletter sent out by Chuck Spinney, a retired Pentagon analyst. He starts out with a quote from the late journalist H. L. Mencken: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed [and hence clamorous to be led to safety] by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
Spinney then quotes Nazi Luftwaffe chief Hermann Goering, who explained at his Nuremberg trial how easy it is for leaders to get the people to do their bidding. "All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger," Goering said. "It works the same way in any country."
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There's no doubt in my mind that the Anthrax scare was an act of US sponsored terrorism whose sole purpose was to ensure the passage of the Patriot Act. Why do I say that? How do I come to that conclusion? Because we are no longer going after the person responsible for it. When there's an extremely serious crime and the investigation stops - the investigator are the ones behind it.
That's the question that really needs to be asked. What's the answer? Well - here's a couple charts that seem to shed some light on the subject.
Deficit
This doesn't take into account the fact that we are no longer a free country. For those who think that who the president is doesn't matter - isn't this an amazing coincidence that all the good news is under the Clinton administration and the bad news is under Bush.
Right wing Republican apologists will say that Clinton's success was a time delayed effect of the Reagan/Bush administration and that W's failure is a time delay from Clinton's failure. But - we have a Republican president and a Republican controlled congress and there's no oine to blame but the Republicans.
And - there's the 9-11 excuse. Well - they only knocked down 2 buildings and if America is such a wuss nation that it can be brought to it's knees over 2 buildings - well - sounds like poor leadership to me.
Here are two stories about the same event - both available on Yahoo. The story is about how sucessful the Bush administration is at getting OTHER countries to donate to Bush's war. The first (the lie) is from Reuters - the second is from the Associated Press. I present the lie first. Read the articles and answer this question. How much money was pledged from non US sources.
Donors Promise Iraq $33 Billion, Smashing Expectations
Fri October 24, 2003 02:47 PM ET
By David Chance and Mona Megalli
MADRID (Reuters) - International donors pledged at least $33 billion in aid and loans over the next four years to help rebuild war-ravaged Iraq on Friday as the response to a U.S.-led drive for funds far outstripped expectations.
Spanish Economy Minister Rodrigo Rato said the combined offer -- made at a gathering of more than 70 nations in Madrid -- was equivalent to twice Iraq's annual national income and was a global vote of confidence in the country's future.
"If you take the American contribution which is hopefully totally a grant, then we have at least $33 billion, of which $25 billion is grants," said Marek Belka, a former Polish finance minister who is spearheading the fund raising efforts of the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority.
"All in all we are overwhelmed, we are very happy, it surpasses all expectations," Belka told Reuters.
He said the figure took the lowest likely contribution from the International Monetary Fund and World Bank and excluded trade finance and grants in kind.
The highest estimate for pledges from non-U.S. donors came from the Iraqis themselves. Planning Minister Mahdi Hafez told reporters they had matched Washington's promise of $20 billion.
That is on top of $20 billion promised by Washington and is far in excess of what had been expected a few weeks ago, when political divisions threatened the existence of the meeting.
"A little over six months ago Iraq was the black sheep of the international community," Iraq Governing Council President Iyad Allawi told a news conference. "Today I am again proud to be Iraqi."
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Now - here is an exerpt from the Associated Press Story. Again - how much money came in from sources outside the United States? Also - note the diference in the headlines.
Iraq Rebuilding Money Short of $56B Goal
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer
MADRID, Spain - Iraq (news - web sites)'s postwar reconstruction received a boost Friday as nations from Japan to Saudi Arabia pledged $13 billion in new aid on top of more than $20 billion from the United States. But the figure fell well short of the estimated $56 billion needed to rebuild the country, and much came in the form of loans that could saddle Iraq with new debts.
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In the first article you can see that it gives the impression that Bush raised $33 billion. The second article clearly states that Bush only raised $13 billion and that $20 billion was from America. When you read further in the complete second article you'll see in the details that most of the $13 billion was loans and that only about $5 billion was actually donated.
The interesting thing is - if you reread the first article you will see that they sort of say the same thing just enough to give them plausable deniability. The can say that "technically" they aren't lying. But they have a different standard of lying that I do and I'm calling it a lie.
The point here is that this is a tutorial about how the media lies and what to watch out for in this age of deception. You can get the truth even when everyone is lying to you. You just have to understand the lying process.
Here's the rest of the article.
Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) and U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow promised to immediately campaign to convert the loans into outright grants.
"The United States will work with other nations to get the level down," Snow said at a news conference, while Powell acknowledged the contributions were solicited so arduously it was not clear how many were in loans and how many grants.
Iraq already has a debt of $120 billion, with annual servicing charges of $7 billion to $8 billion. The Bush administration, mindful of the burden, planned all U.S. aid to be in grant form, but Congress is still weighing that approach. Some U.S. lawmakers favor loans based on the prospect that Iraq will be oil-rich in a few years and able to pay its debts with oil revenue.
After the conference closed, Spanish Finance Minister Rodrigo Rato said it raised $33 billion in pledges, including the American money, a figure that did not include export credits, technical assistance or other non-cash aid.
European Union (news - web sites) official Chris Patten noted that past fund-raisers have experienced long delays in making good on pledges. "We need to get the money out of the banks and into Iraq as soon as possible," he said.
The pledges were drawn from Asia and, far less so, from Europe. Japan offered the second-biggest pledge: $1.5 billion in grants for 2004 and $3.5 billion in loans for 2005-07.
Saudi Arabia pledged $1 billion. The richest country in the Arab world said half would be in loans through 2007 and the rest would be in export credits.
However, the kingdom also hinted at supporting a U.S. push to relieve some of Iraq's debt. Prince Saud Al-Faisal, the foreign minister, said Saudi Arabia was ready to reduce some of the $24 billion it was owed by Iraq, but he did not give specifics.
In an interview with European newspapers published Friday, Powell expressed regret that France and Germany weren't pledging new aid. The two leading opponents of the U.S.-led war in Iraq are holding back to show their disapproval of the U.S. blueprint for restoring Iraqi sovereignty.
Some of the pledges were unusual. Vietnam offered rice to Iraq, and Sri Lanka gave tea.
China pledged $24.2 million. Poorer countries chipped in too, like Slovakia with $290,000. Bulgaria and Egypt offered technical assistance but no money.
Iran, which fought Iraq from 1980-88 in a war that claimed 1 million lives, said it would let Iraq export oil through Iranian ports and supply its neighbor with electricity and gas.
Ayad Allawi, interim Iraqi president, called the donors conference "a historic occasion for my country, which a little over six months ago was the black sheep of the international community."
"Today, I am again proud to be an Iraqi," he told reporters. "The pledges made today will help us get back on our feet."
Much of the $13 billion came from international lending institutions: $4 billion from the International Monetary Fund (news - web sites) and $3 billion from the World Bank (news - web sites). While the bank might provide up to $5 billion, the lower figure was used in the calculations.
The bank had estimated Iraq would need about $55 billion in the next four years, far above what the conference raised in pledges. Powell called that an "ultimate goal," and the bank has said much will likely be covered by Iraq's oil revenues, private investment and other resources, rather than donations.
"These have been two wonderful days in the life of Iraq and the world," Adel Abdul-Mahdi, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council, told the closing session. "Iraqis are shedding tears. Humanity has stood beside them."
In all, the European Union is giving $812 million next year, said Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini, whose country holds the EU presidency.
That's less than the $931 million the 15-nation bloc offered to Afghanistan (news - web sites) last year, reflecting the absence of France and Germany.
However, Germany's deputy minister for economic cooperation, Erich Stather, said Berlin might offer export credits and would play a "constructive role ... in finding a solution of Iraq's debts."
French Trade Minister Francois Loos said his country is "willing to envisage and adapt its treatment of Iraq's debt compatible with the country's finance capacity."
The hypocracy of the religious right is amazing.
Jerry Brooks writes for the Washington Dispatch Link
Talk show host Rush Limbaugh recently revealed his addiction to prescription painkillers on his nationally syndicated radio program and also announced that he was seeking immediate treatment to deal with his problem. Limbaugh told his national audience that he’s been dealing with this addiction for several years after failed back surgery in the ‘90s. This startling confession came days after Limbaugh resigned from ESPN’s Sunday morning football pre-game show after comments he made about the NFL and Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.
Maybe Rush and his dittoheads will now support treating drug addiction rather than jailing them.
I always find it sad to hear of stories like this because addictions are terrible, devastating things and I’ve seen their effects up close and personal. Broken relationships, financial hardships, and even permanent physical damage and psychological damage are just some of the effects I’ve seen in people’s lives because of addiction to various things.
Sound like a bleading heart liberal to me. Do you feel his pain? Oh - but this is a setup paragraph. He didn't mean a word of it. He will now take the opportunity to bash Liberals.
I am in no way, shape, or form condoning Limbaugh’s actions. However, I’m not going to behave like a pack of ravenous wolves like so many left leaning media (Got to get the "media is left" propoganda in there) and critics have. I never liked the idea of kicking someone when they’re down. When you’re dealing with a problem of this magnitude, the last thing you need is a group of accusing fingers pointing out the obvious. Excuse me - You just insulted what Rush does for a living!
The "left" are ravenous wolves? Not hardly! We are just quoting Rush just like you ditto heads do! Rush fans love kicking people when they are down. That what his show is about. To liberals it's like watching a rattlesnake bite itself.
For those who are gleefully accusing Limbaugh of hypocrisy, I think you should keep the following in mind. Your rationale for judging someone’s character is just as flawed as everyone else’s. The liberal left in this country has prided itself on the premise that they’re more compassionate, more tolerant, and able to embrace diversity more readily than anyone else. This form of arrogance is bad enough, but I can name several instances where liberal “compassion” has gone out the window when it comes to conservatives. The same group of people who profess their undying devotion to fairness and kindness are the same folks who spout some of the most vicious, toxic, and mean-spirited rhetoric I’ve ever heard.
Thanks for admitting that the left is more tolerant. That is true. The attacks on Rush from the left are far less than the attacks of Rush's fans. But - pointing out rush's hypocracy - or any hypocracy - is a good thing. Rush always did that - so - do we not honor Rush by following in his footsteps? Do you believe that Rush can dish it out but can't take it? Sir - you insult the great Rush Limbaugh if you believe that!
Hypocrisy, like many other traits, doesn’t discriminate. Conservatives can be just as hypocritical and vicious as liberals. The fact is that no one political or ideological entity really holds the high moral ground on anything.
This is true. Except that Conservatives are generally far more vicoius than liberals. Rush used to call Bill Clinton's 12 year old daughter a dog. Rush has elevated being vicious into a billion dollar business.
The issue of character has come to the forefront especially since the Clinton era. (Got to kick Clinton one more time.) The 1990s certainly had its share of scandals, but what stood out to me was the meteoric rise of character assassinations and assassins. Politics certainly is a blood sport, but the politics of personal destruction has become the sport of choice for liberals today. Demean the accusation by demeaning the accuser by any means necessary. Forget the nature of the evidence; focus on the seriousness of the charge. (Clarence Thomas can tell you about that one)
Yes - politics is a blood sport - and Rush is one of the pioneers that made it that way. Rush made hundreds of millions of dollors by leading Conservatives in moral masturbation sessions where conservatives got a macabre thrill from reveling in the suffering of others. But then - when it's one of your own - out comes the compassion.
I think it’s a shame that good people are being kept out of the political arena because they don’t want to undergo intrusive life exams by unscrupulous political operatives and their allies in the mainstream media. Now more than ever, good people need to step up on all levels and run for office because our nation has an entrenched political class who’ve become intoxicated with money, power, position, and a blind loyalty to agendas that are slowly turning our great nation into a quasi-socialist nightmare that would make the Founding Fathers pop a blood vessel.
When good people come forward it's people like Rush Limbaugh who put them through the ringer.
Nobody I know is 100 percent perfect. By historical accounts, the only person I know of who lived a perfect life died on a cross. (Play the Jesus card) If our culture insists on going down the road of comparative morality as criteria for credibility on issues, then we might as well put the proverbial gun to our head and pull the trigger. Because when it comes to the issue of character, every single human being at one time or another, has horribly flunked the perfection test.
Jesus is a mythical figure who never existed. And conservatives hardly can claim they believe in the Bible because if they did - they wouldn't be involved in moral masturbation with Rush.
I do pray that Rush beats his addiction. I believe there is good that can come out of this situation and I pray that Rush sees that and uses it. As for those who sit in their seats of power awaiting Limbaugh’s demise, I’d take some time and take a look at your own lives and see what flaws you might have before you break out your poison pens (or poison tongues).
Oh this makes me want to cry! Swear to Koresh it does. I pray for Rush too. I hope he recovers not only from is addiction but also repents from his life of hate and distruction. I hope he sees the light and come out regretting his sins against the human race the way Lee Atwater did when he was close to dying of Cancer. When he apologized for what he did to Micheal Dukakis and his family.
As holy scripture tell us, (The Bible card)“Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.” So, who wants to throw the first rock?
I'm without sin - so I'll cast the first stone. haha - as if this is the first stone! Tell it to the conservative talk show hosts who are filling in for Rush. So - is Rush down for the count? Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it - he's going to at least have to stop bashing drug addicts. Rush's life is now changed. We will see if he learns anything from it.
I would ask the conservatives this question. If the liberals show compassion and forgiveness for Rush - will they start showing compassion and forgiveness for Bill Clinton? Or is this just a one way thing? I remember how Christians (yes - true Christians) were frothing at the mouth at the posibility of Bill and Hillary getting divorced and how disapointed they were when they stuck it out.
So Mr. Jerry Brooks - thanks for the load of bullshit. I'm looking forward to seeing Conservatives give up hate radio and become forgiving and compassionate to the downtrodden as you suggest. Anyone want to place any bets that will happen?
This article by Jerry Brooks is a classic right wing rant because it has all the elements of a right wing story:
This is what makes him such a great right wing journalist. Look how make elements he covered in so few words.!
Atty. Gen. Ashcroft is pulling out all the stops to prosecute protesters.
It has lain dormant in the darkest recesses of American law for 125 years, but this month Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft introduced critics of the administration to his latest weapon in law enforcement.
In a Miami federal court, the attorney general charged the environmental group Greenpeace under an obscure 1872 law originally intended to end the practice of "sailor-mongering," or the luring of sailors with liquor and prostitutes from their ships. Ashcroft plucked the law from obscurity to punish Greenpeace for boarding a vessel near port in Miami.
Not only is the law being used to prosecute one of the administration's most vocal critics in an unprecedented attack on the 1st Amendment, but it appears to be part of a broader campaign by Ashcroft to protect the nation against free speech, a campaign that has converted environmentalists into "sailor-mongers" and nuns into terrorists.
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The case against Greenpeace started with a protest in April 2002. The activist group was leading an international effort to stop the illegal importing of mahogany. It believed that a ship, the APL Jade, was engaging in this illegal trade and decided to conduct one of its signature demonstrations to protest the Bush administration's failure to stop the imports.
In clearly marked boats, Greenpeace followed the ship. Two of its members boarded the vessel about eight miles outside the Miami port, carrying a banner that read "President Bush, Stop Illegal Logging."
Such protests are common, and the two activists wore Greenpeace jackets, identified themselves as Greenpeace members and allowed themselves to be arrested. They ultimately pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and were released. The wood was unloaded and everyone seemed satisfied.
Everyone, that is, except Ashcroft.
Fifteen months after the incident, the Justice Department filed an indictment in Miami against the entire Greenpeace organization under the 1872 law, a law that appears to have been used only twice.
A New York court in 1872 described the law as both "inartistic and obscure." An Oregon court in 1890 described the purpose of the law as preventing "the evil" of "sailor-mongers [who] get on board vessels and by the help of intoxicants, and the use of other means, often savoring of violence, get the crews ashore and leave the vessel without help to manage or care for her."
Of course, there did not appear to be many sailors on the APL Jade being lured out to join Greenpeace. But proceeding against two protesters on trivial misdemeanor charges wasn't enough for the Justice Department. So it decided to treat Greenpeace activists not as protesters but as sailor-mongers.
Greenpeace now could lose its tax-exempt status — a potential death knell for a large public interest organization. A conviction could also force Greenpeace to regularly report its actions to the government. Such a prospect must secretly delight many in the administration who see the group as an ever-present irritant. After all, it was Greenpeace that held the first demonstration at the president's ranch after his inauguration, causing a stir when activists unfurled a banner reading "Bush: the Toxic Texan. Don't Mess With the Earth."
Since that time, Greenpeace has waged a continual campaign against Bush's environmental record. Ashcroft's jihad against free speech, however, is not limited to environmentalists. Consider the case of three Dominican nuns. Last year, Sister Ardeth Platte, 66, Sister Jackie Hudson, 68, and Sister Carol Gilbert, 55, participated in a peaceful demonstration for nuclear disarmament.
As part of the protest, the three nuns cut through a chain-link fence around a Minuteman III missile silo. There is only a light fence because the missile is protected by a 110-ton concrete cap that is designed to withstand a nuclear explosion. The nuns proceeded to paint crosses on the cap and symbolically hit it with hammers. They then knelt, prayed, sang religious songs and waited for arrest. The most the government could allege in terms of damage was $3,000.
However, the Ashcroft Justice Department wanted more than compensation and a common misdemeanor. It charged the nuns with obstructing national defense, which subjected each to a potential 30-year prison term. When the government pushed the court to impose sentences of as much as eight years, the judge refused. However, the judge found, as alleged by the government, that the three nuns had put military personnel "in harm's way." Accordingly, he imposed on them sentences ranging from 2 1/2 years to 3 1/2 years.
The administration has pursued a similar zero-tolerance policy in other cases. It has been accused of using unconstitutional "trap-and-arrest" tactics to suppress protests in Washington, D.C., where hundreds of journalists, bystanders and student protesters were arrested en masse without a warning or an opportunity to disperse. They were then left hog-tied in holding areas for as long as 20 hours, with their hands bound to their ankles.
The Greenpeace case is particularly chilling because of the extraordinary effort to find a law that could be used to pursue the organization. The 1872 law is a legal relic that must have required much archeological digging through law books to find.
It is also notable that other organizations have not faced such attacks. For example, in this same judicial district in Florida, the Cuban American group Democracy Movement organized a protest in which members sailed into a government-designated security zone. Although the members were charged, the organization was not. Similarly, other groups viewed favorably by the administration — such as anti-abortion groups — have not been subject to criminal indictments of their organizations for such protests.
The extraordinary effort made to find and use this obscure law strongly suggests a campaign of selective prosecution — the greatest scourge of the 1st Amendment.
Greenpeace was engaged in a classic protest used by countless organizations, from those of the civil rights movement to anti-abortion groups. It is a way for citizens to express their opposition by literally standing in the path of the government.
None of these organizations contest the right of the government to punish them for trespass or even criminal misdemeanors. Indeed, they view such punishment as a badge of honor.
However, Ashcroft is now seeking symbols of his own: The image of a major environmentalist organization placed on probation or nuns being sent to jail is clearly meant to send a chilling message from the man who once accused his critics of aiding and abetting terrorists.
Unless deterred by Congress or the courts, Ashcroft will continue his campaign to protect Americans from the ravages of free speech. If he succeeds, it will not be sailors but free speech that will be shanghaied in Miami.
From New Zeland Herald
US voting system vulnerable to fraud
19.10.2003
Part 1 of a 4-part investigation by ANDREW GUMBEL of the Independent
INVESTIGATION - Something very odd happened in the mid-term elections in the US state of Georgia last November.
On the eve of the vote, opinion polls showed Roy Barnes, the incumbent Democratic governor, leading by between 9 and 11 points.
In a somewhat closer, keenly watched Senate race, polls indicated that Max Cleland, the popular Democrat up for re-election, was ahead by two to five points against his Republican challenger, Saxby Chambliss.
Those figures were more or less what political experts would have expected in Georgia, a state with a long tradition of electing Democrats to statewide office.
But then the results came in, and all of Georgia appeared to have been turned upside down.
Barnes lost the governorship to the Republican, Sonny Perdue, 46 per cent to 51 per cent, a swing of as much as 16 percentage points from the last opinion polls.
Cleland lost to Chambliss 46 per cent to 53, a last-minute swing of 9 to 12 points.
Red-faced opinion pollsters suddenly had a lot of explaining to do and launched internal investigations.
Political analysts credited the upset, part of a pattern of Republican successes around the country, to a huge personal campaign push by President Bush in the final days of the race.
They also said that Roy Barnes had lost because of a surge of "angry white men" punishing him for eradicating all but a vestige of the old confederate symbol from the state's flag.
But something about these explanations did not make sense, and they have made even less sense over time.
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When the Georgia secretary of state's office published its demographic breakdown of the election earlier this year, it turned out there was no surge of angry white men; in fact, the only subgroup showing even a modest increase in turnout was black women.
Their embrace of the confederate cause was about as likely as the alleged support for right-wing demagogue Pat Buchanan by retired liberal Jews - using the notorious "butterfly ballot" - in the 2000 presidential election in Palm Beach County, Florida.
There were also big, puzzling swings in partisan loyalties in different parts of the state.
In 58 counties, the vote was broadly in line with the primary election.
Georgia has an open primary system - meaning anyone can vote for either major party, irrespective of their own affiliation - so that consistency was to be expected.
In 27 counties in Republican-dominated north Georgia, however, Max Cleland unaccountably scored 14 percentage points higher than he had in the primaries.
And in 74 counties in the Democrat-leaning south, Saxby Chambliss garnered a whopping 22 points more for the Republicans than the party as a whole had won less than three months earlier.
Now, weird things like this do occasionally occur in elections, and the figures, on their own, are not proof of anything except statistical anomalies worthy of further study.
But in Georgia there was an extra reason to be suspicious.
Last November, the state became the first in the country to conduct an election entirely with touchscreen voting machines, after lavishing US$54 million ($91 million) on a new system that promised to deliver the securest, most up-to-date, most voter-friendly election in the history of the republic.
The machines, however, turned out to be anything but reliable.
With academic studies showing the Georgia touchscreens to be poorly programmed, full of security holes and prone to tampering, and with thousands of similar machines from different companies being introduced at high speed across the country, computer voting may, in fact, be US democracy's own 21st century nightmare.
In many Georgia counties last November, the machines froze up, causing long delays as technicians tried to reboot them.
In heavily Democratic Fulton County, in downtown Atlanta, 67 memory cards from the voting machines went missing, delaying certification of the results there for 10 days.
In neighbouring DeKalb County, 10 memory cards were unaccounted for; they were later recovered from terminals that had supposedly broken down and been taken out of service.
It is still unclear exactly how results from these missing cards were tabulated, or if they were counted at all.
And we will probably never know, for a highly disturbing reason.
The vote count was not conducted by state elections officials, but by the private company that sold Georgia the voting machines in the first place, under a strict trade-secrecy contract that made it not only difficult but actually illegal -- on pain of stiff criminal penalties -- for the state to touch the equipment or examine the proprietary software to ensure the machines worked properly.
There was not even a paper trail to follow up. The machines were fitted with thermal printing devices that could theoretically provide a written record of voters' choices, but these were not activated. Consequently, recounts were impossible.
Had Diebold Inc, the manufacturer, been asked to review the votes, all it could have done was programme the computers to spit out the same data as before, flawed or not.
Astonishingly, these are the terms under which America's top three computer voting machine manufacturers -- Diebold, Sequoia and Election Systems and Software (ES&S) -- have sold their products to election officials around the country.
Far from questioning the need for rigid trade secrecy and the absence of a paper record, secretaries of state and their technical advisers -- anxious to banish memories of the "hanging chad" fiasco and other associated disasters in the 2000 presidential recount in Florida -- have, for the most part, welcomed the touchscreen voting machines as a technological miracle solution.
Georgia was not the only state last November to see big last-minute swings in voting patterns. There were others in Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois and New Hampshire -- all in races that had been flagged as key partisan battlegrounds, and all eventually won by the Republican Party.
Again, this was widely attributed to the campaigning efforts of President Bush and the demoralisation of a Democratic Party too timid to speak out against the looming war in Iraq.
Strangely, however, the pollsters made no comparable howlers in lower-key races whose outcome was not seriously contested. Another anomaly, perhaps.
What, then, is one to make of the fact that the owners of the three major computer voting machines are all prominent Republican Party donors?
Or of a recent political fund-raising letter written to Ohio Republicans by Walden O'Dell, Diebold's chief executive, in which he said he was "committed to helping Ohio to deliver its electoral votes to the president next year" - even as his company was bidding for the contract on the state's new voting machinery?
Alarmed and suspicious, an ad hoc group of Georgia citizens began to look into the background of last November's election to see whether there was any chance the results might have been deliberately or accidentally manipulated.
Their research proved unexpectedly, and disturbingly, fruitful.
First, they wanted to know if the software had undergone adequate oversight.
Under state and federal law, all voting machinery and component parts must be certified before use in an election.
So an Atlanta graphic designer named Denis Wright wrote to the secretary of state's office for a copy of the certification letter.
Clifford Tatum, assistant director of legal affairs for the election division, wrote back: "We have determined that no records exist in the Secretary of State's office regarding a certification letter from the lab certifying the version of software used on Election Day."
Mr Tatum said it was possible the relevant documents were with Gary Powell, an official at the Georgia Technology Authority, so campaigners wrote to him as well.
Mr Powell responded he was "not sure what you mean by the words 'please provide written certification documents'".
"If the machines were not certified, then right there the election was illegal," Mr Wright said.
The secretary of state's office has yet to demonstrate anything to the contrary.
Letter to the Editor
Sick and wounded US Troops are being held in squalor at Fort Steward GA languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait for months to see doctors. These troops - many who served recently in Iraq live in the sweltering heat with no bathrooms. They have to hobble on crutches through the dirt and mud to a communal bathroom where they have to actually buy their own toilet paper. A fine thank you from the Bush administration to the troops he sent to fight his war.
Letter to the Editor
It an interesting question raised recently by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia. Do Jews rule the world? Or - more specifically - does the right wing Israeli government rule the world? Israel has been a militant obstacle to peace and is trying to use economic genocide to drive the Palestinians out of the area and steal their land. And - they are getting away with it. When I look at Israel's new "Berlin Wall" - it sends chills down my spine. Did the Jews learn nothing from the Holocaust?
Just as Tony Blair is Bush's poodle - it seems that Bush is the poodle of Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. When Ariel Sharon says frog - Bush says how high. So - I think the President of Malaysia was on target with his remark and it's time the world woke up to the fact that the right wing governments of Israel, the United States, and England are in fact a threat to the peace and prosperity of the planet.
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What is control and how do you detect it. For instance - I am raising he question here about Jewish control and you are reading it. What is the first thing that comes to mind? Is this anti-sematism? And why does that come to mind? Well - because you can't say anything critical about the Jews or they play the holocaust card and make you a Nazi. Criticizing Jews is worse than talking sexual politics with militant lesbians. Not every critical remark about Jews is anti-jewish. And - in the long run - supressing critism results in prejudice. The Jewish religion and culture is no better than any other religion or culture except to the extent that they behave as better people. And what the Jews are doing in the Middle East does not reflect any sign of a superior culture.
The reality is - sometimes the Jews really are wrong. Sometimes the Jews really are the bad guys - and the right wing government of Israel really is a threat to peace on the planet and they really are pulling America's strings. This really is happening and we really do need to talk about it without the censorship.
The Jews are not God's chosen people and Israel was not given to the Jews by God. The Jews got Israel out of an act of compassion of the United Nations and they should thank the world community for their gift of land rather than to act like God gave them an entitlement.
One conservative talk show host says - yes!
"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."
Rush Limbaugh - on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.
Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while British are condemned as too soft
By Patrick Cockburn in Dhuluaya
12 October 2003
US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops.
The stumps of palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of Baghdad. Local women were yesterday busily bundling together the branches of the uprooted orange and lemon trees and carrying then back to their homes for firewood.
Nusayef Jassim, one of 32 farmers who saw their fruit trees destroyed, said: "They told us that the resistance fighters hide in our farms, but this is not true. They didn't capture anything. They didn't find any weapons."
Other farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim district.
"They made a sort of joke against us by playing jazz music while they were cutting down the trees," said one man. Ambushes of US troops have taken place around Dhuluaya. But Sheikh Hussein Ali Saleh al-Jabouri, a member of a delegation that went to the nearby US base to ask for compensation for the loss of the fruit trees, said American officers described what had happened as "a punishment of local people because 'you know who is in the resistance and do not tell us'." What the Israelis had done by way of collective punishment of Palestinians was now happening in Iraq, Sheikh Hussein added.
The destruction of the fruit trees took place in the second half of last month but, like much which happens in rural Iraq, word of what occurred has only slowly filtered out. The destruction of crops took place along a kilometre-long stretch of road just after it passes over a bridge.
Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods, but a petition addressed to the coalition forces in Dhuluaya pleading in erratic English for compensation, lists only 32 people. The petition says: "Tens of poor families depend completely on earning their life on these orchards and now they became very poor and have nothing and waiting for hunger and death."
The children of one woman who owned some fruit trees lay down in front of a bulldozer but were dragged away, according to eyewitnesses who did not want to give their names. They said that one American soldier broke down and cried during the operation. When a reporter from the newspaper Iraq Today attempted to take a photograph of the bulldozers at work a soldier grabbed his camera and tried to smash it. The same paper quotes Lt Col Springman, a US commander in the region, as saying: "We asked the farmers several times to stop the attacks, or to tell us who was responsible, but the farmers didn't tell us."
Informing US troops about the identity of their attackers would be extremely dangerous in Iraqi villages, where most people are related and everyone knows each other. The farmers who lost their fruit trees all belong to the Khazraji tribe and are unlikely to give information about fellow tribesmen if they are, in fact, attacking US troops.
Asked how much his lost orchard was worth, Nusayef Jassim said in a distraught voice: "It is as if someone cut off my hands and you asked me how much my hands were worth."
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375
by John Buchanan
Documents in National Archives Prove
George W. Bush's Grandfather Traded
with Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor
WASHINGTON -- After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.
The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.
Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial tycoon for nearly a year after the U.S. entered the war.
No Story?
For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath.
The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.
The Summer of '42
The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway in New York under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran simultaneously in the New York Herald-Tribune and Washington Post on July 31, 1941. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months.
"Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the front-page Herald-Tribune headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess.
The Herald-Tribune also cited unnamed sources who suggested Thyssen's U.S. "nest egg" in fact belonged to "Nazi bigwigs" including Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, or even Hitler himself.
Business is Business
The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director.
The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.
After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the U.S.
Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S. entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it. Brown Brothers Harriman sent letters to the government seeking reconsideration of the seizures by using false information.
UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.
The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included partnership with another German titan who supported Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his role in using slave labor and his own steel, coal and arms resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to prison.
The Family Business
In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC.
However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client.
Seized
On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley.
In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC, Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261) and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp. (Vesting Order No. 259).
The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury bonds, to their foreign clients overseas between 1931-33, as Hitler engineered his rise to power.
Still No Story?
Since 1942, the information has not appeared in any U.S. news coverage of any Bush political campaign, nor has it been included in any of the major Bush family biographies. It was, however, covered extensively in George H.W. Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Chaitkin's father served as an attorney in the 1940s for some of the victims of the Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.
The book gave a detailed, accurate accounting of the Bush family's long Nazi affiliation, but no mainstream U.S. media entity reported on or even investigated the allegations, despite careful documentation by the authors. Major booksellers declined to distribute the book, which was dismissed by Bush supporters as biased and untrue. Its authors struggled even to be reviewed in reputable newspapers. That the book was published by Lyndon LaRouche's organization undoubtedly made it easier to dismiss, but does not change the facts.
The essence of the story has been posted for years on various Internet sites, including BuzzFlash.com and TakeBackTheMedia.com, but no online media seem to have independently confirmed it.
In the 1990s, former U.S. Justice Department Nazi war crimes prosecutor John Loftus, now honorary president of the Florida Holocaust Museum, wrote a book and launched a web site (<>www.john-loftus.com) which did breakthrough reporting, including establishing the link between Prescott Bush, Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and forced labor at Auschwitz. Although the widely-respected Loftus established a successful international speaking career with his information, no U.S. newspaper or major TV news program acknowledged his decade of work, nor did he ever see many of the recently released documents.
Meanwhile, the mainstream media have apparently made no attempt since World War II to either verify or disprove the allegations of Nazi collaboration against the Bush family. Instead, they have attempted to dismiss or discredit such Internet sites or "unauthorized" books without any journalistic inquiry or research into their veracity.
Loyal Defenders
The National Review ran an essay on September 1 by their White House correspondent Byron York, entitled "Annals of Bush-Hating." It begins
mockingly: "Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, of the entire Bush family? Are you aware of the president's Nazi sympathies? His crimes against humanity? And do you know, by the way, that George W. Bush is a certifiable moron?" York goes on to discredit the "Bush is a moron" IQ hoax, but fails to disprove the Nazi connection.
The more liberal Boston Globe ran a column September 29 by Reason magazine's Cathy Young in which she referred to "Bush-o-phobes on the Internet" who "repeat preposterous claims about the Bush family's alleged Nazi connections."
Poles Tackle the Topic
Newsweek Polska, the magazine's Polish edition, published a short piece on the "Bush Nazi past" in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that "the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp," according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (<>www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.
Still Not Interested
Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, as well as Knight-Ridder Newspapers, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.
Aftermath
In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. There is no record of any U.S. press coverage of the Bush-Nazi connection during any political campaigns conducted by George Herbert Walker Bush, Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, with the exception of a brief mention in an unrelated story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune in November 2000 and a brief but inaccurate account in The Boston Globe in 2001.
http://www.rense.com/general42/bshnazi.htm
Letter to the Editor
Vice President Dick Cheney is trying to sell the reason for the Iraq war based on 9-11. Cheney says, "Remember what we saw on the morning of 9/11. And knowing the nature of these enemies, we have as clear a responsibility as could ever fall to government,"
The problem with this is that Iraq and Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11. Bin Laden - who is responsible - resides in Pakistan - who is our "ally" and is funded by Saudi Arabia - who is also our "ally". It seems to me that in order to protect the people of America from terrorism the Bush administration should first correctly identify who the enemy is.
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Bush and Cheney are caught in a perpetual loop as the have to continue to try to explain why we went to war with Iraq - why we are still there - and what we are currently doing there - and how we are going to get out. This game has no end.
Letter to the Editor
One would normally think that Arnold Schwarzenegger's victory would be a good sign for Bush and Republicans. But that may not be the case. Voters in California are fed up with business as usual and politicians who are under performers. The time has come to throw the bums out and that applies to all incumbents of both parties. America it tired of crap and are willing to vote for the "anyone else" candidate. Bush and Congress better figure out the reason we are in Iraq and why the economy has gone from record surpluses to record deficits before they face the voters in 2004.
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Maybe I'll run for state representative on the platform of limiting parking tickets to $25.
I just voted NO on the recall. I also voted for Cruz Bustamante. Big surprize. Trying to prevent yet another stolen exection but the fix is probably in. In Los Angeles they have the Republican controlled Daibold voting machines. The same ones that gave Al Gore a -16022 (minus 16022) total in one precinct of Seminole County in the 2000 election. The Republicans will surely have these machines rigged in favor of Arnold.
If Arnold gets elected I want to be the first to sign the next recall petition.
I did make a controversial vote. I voted YES on Prop. 53 which prohibits the collection by the covernment on most racial data. This data is most often used to support racist decisions in government hiring. I don't support discrimination based on race against any race including white people. If the government doesn't know what race someone is then they can't make a decision based on race.
It's been 40 years since the civil rights revolution of the 1960s and it's about time that people of color get off the government tit. I do support affirmative action based on economic status - but not race.
Letter to the Editor
I think voters are focusing on Arnold Schwarzenegger's past when they should be focused on the future. It would be a mistake if this election were decided on the basis of whether or not the voters believe that Arnold groped women or praised Hitler or met with Enron executives during the blackouts. This election is about the future of California - not about Arnold's past.
What the voters of California need to decide is - what will the future be like. Who will be the best for the people of California? Our future is at stake and I would urge all voters to think about the future and vote responsibly.
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This is not a pro Arnold letter. This letter was carefully crafted to get published. It mentions 3 Arnold scandals but urges voters to consider the future. And I think considering the future is a good thing. But - the nutral tone is more likely to get published the day of the election.
Letter to the Editor
Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger might be a very expensive governor for California. Although he claims he can't remember it - documents have surfaced confirming that he attended a high level meeting with Ken Lay of Enron fame and several other oil execs and high powered Republicans regarding the artificially created energy crisis that shut off electricity to California in the spring of 2001.
California is trying to get back 9 billion dollars in overcharges from the very energy companies that were in Arnold's group. I believe if he were selected for governor that these oil execs would get a 9 billion dollar windfall at the expense of the California rate payers.
The new documents come at an unfortunate time for the candidate amid allegations of sexual misconduct and praising Adolf Hitler. I would urge California voters to think before you vote because after the election is over - we will have to live with the reality of the results. Movie stars are interesting on the screen - but reality is more important.
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Side note:
I was on the CBS Evening News last night for those who want to see the face behind these emails. The interview was about my MCI Sucks page I created a few years back when MCI cut off my phone lines. I give good interviews:
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References:
Letter to the Editor
The government of North Korea is making a ridiculous false assertion that the United States Secretary of Defense - Donald Rumsfield - is an illiterate dictatorial psychopath. This is just rhetoric and propaganda because all the world leaders know that Donald Rumsfield can read!!
Reference:
Yahoo Story
Letter to the Editor
It scares me when Bush's poll numbers drop below 50% because the only things the drive Bush's poll numbers up are terrorist events and war. Once the cloud of terrorism and was subsides the voters start to notice that the economy is collapsing, the deficit is soaring, education and health care systems failing, and the governments wants to spy on everything we do. So what scares me is with the presidential election heating up - Bush needs a war or terrorist event to distract America from his failed presidency. And I get nervous when Bush needs war.
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Do I think Bush would start a war just to win an election? You bet I do!
What do I believe that? Well ....
The mainstream media is a puppet of the Bush administration.
Why is Bush trying to thrawt the 9-11 investigation?
You never hear anything about the anthrax attack anymore.
Bush is still searching for a reason for the Iraq war.
The mainstream media is a puppet of the Bush administration.
The government want to spy on everyone everywhere.
We're running an illegal concentration camp at Gotmo.
We know Bin Laden is in Pakastan - but we don't go after him there.
The mainstream media is a puppet of the Bush administration.
The government of Saudi Ariba funded the 9-11 terrorists - byt they are our "alies".
The war with Iraq was planned BEFORE 9-11.
A lot of Bush opponents are committing "suicide".
The mainstream media is a puppet of the Bush administration.
Interesting series of messages from a web site I came across. Apparently Al Gore got NEGATIVE 16022 votes in Precinct 216 of Seminole county Florida. Bush and the Supreme Court committed treason and the United States is occupied by a hostile force - the Bush Administration.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lana Hires [mailto:lhires@co.volusia.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:07 AM
To: jmglobal@earthlink.net; Glanca@ges.com
Cc: Deanie Lowe
Subject: 2000 November Election
Hi Nel, Sophie & Guy (you to John),
I need some answers! Our department is being audited by the County. I have
been waiting for someone to give me an explanation as to why Precinct 216
gave Al Gore a minus 16022 when it was uploaded. Will someone please
explain this so that I have the information to give the auditor instead of
standing here "looking dumb". I would appreciate an explanation on why the
memory cards start giving check sum messages. We had this happen in several
precincts and one of these precincts managed to get her memory card out of
election mode and then back in it, continued to read ballots, not realizing
that the 300+ ballots she had read earlier were no longer stored in her
memory card . Needless to say when we did our hand count this was
discovered.
Any explantations you all can give me will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks bunches,
Lana
* To: Support
* Subject: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: Guy Lancaster
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:41:08 -0800
* Organization: Global Election Systems Inc.
* References:
This is an overview on what memory card checksum errors are. Exactly what causes them is a separate question.
The memory card is very simply a programmable memory device with a battery backup. The Accu-Vote accesses this memory directly. If something goes wrong when the Accu-Vote is writing new data to the memory card or if the Accu-Vote crashes (as computers have been known to do) and writes to random memory locations, then the data on the memory card may be corrupted (nasty word I know but it fits). All this means is that the data is modified in an unintentional manner. This could also happen without an Accu-Vote through static discharge or some types of radiation (i.e. old airport scanners, cosmic rays???).
There are several mechanisms that we could use to detect this. We use the simplest of these which is to treat the data as a series of numbers and store totals of sets of those numbers as separate data known as checksums. If the data has been modified without updating the checksums, then the checksums will fail to add up.
The Accu-Vote keeps three different types of checksums for three different classes of data. These are text, counters, and precinct. The text checksums cover all the titles and names that are used mostly just for printing reports. Since the text data does not affect the other operations, we check it only occasionally and we allow most operations to continue after a warning.
The counters and precinct data are considered critical and the Accu-Vote is largely inoperable when these checksums fail. We do support the option to clear the counters if only they have been affected and then counting may be restarted. However there is no way to recover from corruption of the precinct data other than to clear and re-download the memory card.
All checksums are validated upon insertion of a memory card or at power on. Thus this is the most common time to detect problems. However the counter and precinct checksums are validated every time a new ballot is scanned. If an error is detected, counting is aborted.
Now to Lana's questions. The above should answer everything other than why erroneous data managed to upload. I see two possible explanations. One is that the data was corrupted after the checksums were validated. In this case the errors would show the next time the checksums were checked. The other possibility is the miniscule chance that the erroneous data managed to add up to the correct checksum. The checksums are stored as totals ranging from 0 to 65535 so the chance of this happening are less than 60,000 to 1 just based on that. Other factors add to this to make it extremely unlikely. However in this case the card would not later show checksum errors.
So John, can you satisfy Lana's request from this? I can't without more details.
Guy
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "John McLaurin"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:56:15 -0500
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <3A6746D4.6D7B0E4B@gesn.com>
Thanks Guy, - the pollworker did restart the unit and eventually put the unit back in election mode. It did not require redownloading the card. Am I missing something in your explanation to understand this?
John
* To: support@gesn.com
* Subject: Re: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: Guy Lancaster
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:23:47 -0800
* Organization: Global Election Systems Inc.
* References:
John McLaurin wrote:
You're probably missing the same details that I am. >From Lana's description she is referring to several checksum error events. One of them sounds like a simple counter error that could be cleared and restarted. I don't think this is the same event as the bad upload.
Guy
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "Ian S. Piper"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:35:01 -0600
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to:
Steve Ricke has been running tests on a specific unit from Seminole. He had a checksum error occur and had the same result of the card resetting to pre-election mode and being able to reset for election mode and continue. After that one error, he has since run thousands of ballots through without a repeat of the error. The original audit report for the Seminole corrupted memory card showed that it had experienced the same error when Mickey Martin and company were recounting ballots on November 9, 2000. Still testing.
Below is the sequence of events for this error. Hope it helps.
Ian
1. Ran test using memory card and accu-vote (Ser.# 71586) which had been corrupted in Seminole County, Florida.
2. Ran three 2000 ballot tests in election mode in McKinney.
3. Unit failed only once which was during the second 2000 ballot test (at about 1300 ballots),
4. Message on display "Corrupt count see official",
5. Pressed YES and NO buttons several seconds each with no change of message,
6. Turned unit OFF, then ON- resulted in "Please reinsert memory card" message,
7. Repeated turning unit OFF then ON with the same message result,
8. Reinserted card (Power ON) message displayed now "counter error ok to continue?",
9. if answered NO, returns to "Please reinsert memory card" message,
10. If answered YES, then message displayed is "Clear counters and recount?",
11. If answered YES, card is reset to pre-election mode and displays "Test ballots?",
12. We set card back into election mode. Ran another 2000 ballots without failure.
Will continue to try with other cards and accu-votes from other counties.
Steve Ricke
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "Ian S. Piper"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:55:06 -0600
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to:
I agree. Steve Ricke's sequence of events only relates to item 1 and how the memory card may have been reset. I thought it might shed some light on the subject.
Ian
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "Ken Clark"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:13:46 -0600
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <3A6746D4.6D7B0E4B@gesn.com>
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Guy Lancaster
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:41 PM
Now to Lana's questions. The above should answer everything other than why erroneous data managed to upload. I see two possible explanations. One is that the data was corrupted after the checksums were validated. In this case the errors would show the next time the checksums were checked. The other possibility is the [60k to 1] chance that the erroneous data managed to add up to the correct checksum.
My understanding is that the card was not corrupt after (or before) upload. They fixed the problem by clearing the precinct and re-uploading the same card. So neither of these explainations washes. That's not to say I have any idea what actually happened, its just not either of those.
So John, can you satisfy Lana's request from this? I can't without more details.
The problem is its going to be very hard to collect enough data to really know what happened. The card isn't corrupt so we can't post-mortem it (its not mort). Guy if you can get the exact counter numbers that were uploaded into the races (not just president) perhaps you could guess the nature of the corruption at least, but if I had to bet the numbers were just garbage and you won't be able to tell.
About the only constructive suggestion I have is to insert a line in the AV upload code to check that candvotes + undervotes = votefor*timescounted. If it happens, punt. That would have at least prevented the embarrassment of negative votes, which is really what this is all about. Then John can go to Lana and tell her it has never happened before and that it will never happen again.
Ken
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "John McLaurin"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:45:54 -0500
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <01d101c0818e$2218be80$3c03a8c0@obrien>
PS – this was not the same precinct causing both problems if my memory is correct – Sophie? Tab?
* To:
* Subject: Re: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "Talbot Iredale"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:31:04 -0800
* References:
John,
Here is all the information I have about the 'negative' counts.
1. Only the presidential totals were incorrect. All the other races the sum of the votes + under votes + blank votes = sum of ballots cast.
2. The problem precinct had two memcory cards uploaded. The second one is the one I believe caused the problem. They were uploaded on the same port approx. 1 hour apart. As far as I know there should only have been one memory card uploaded. I asked you to check this out when the problem first occured but have not heard back as to whether this is true.
3. When the precinct was cleared and re-uploaded (only one memory card as far as I know) everything was fine.
4. Given that we transfer data in ascii form not binary and given the way the data was 'invalid' the error could not have occured during transmission. Therefore the error could only occur in one of four ways:
1. Corrupt memory card. This is the most likely explaination for the problem but since I know nothing about the 'second' memory card I have no ability to confirm the probability of this.
2. Invalid read from good memory card. This is unlikely since the candidates results for the race are not all read at the same time and the corruption was limited to a single race. There is a possiblilty that a section of the memory card was bad but since I do not know anything more about the 'second' memory card I cannot validate this.
3. Corruption of memory, whether on the host or Accu-Vote. Again this is unlikely due to the localization of the problem to a single race.
4. Invalid memory card (i.e. one that should not have been uploaded). There is always the possiblity that the 'second memory card' or 'second upload' came from an un-authorised source.
If this problem is to be properly answered we need to determine where the 'second' memory card is or whether it even exists. I do know that there were two uploads from two different memory cards (copy 0 (master) and copy 3).
Tab
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "John McLaurin"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:56:06 -0500
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <011801c08195$f6781930$1404a8c0@gesn.com>
Tab,
I will be visiting with Lana on Monday and will ascertain the particulars related to the second memory card. One concern I’ve had all along is “if” we are getting the full story from Lana.
I’ll be back in touch and thanks for all of y’alls (that’s southern for all of you) help.
John
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: "John McLaurin"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:08:28 -0500
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to:
John Haranzo of Seminole reports that the unit Ian has in hand had two memory card failures during the recount of one precinct. (Mickey Martin was operating the unit which may explain everything) The third downloaded card was successful at completing the count at which point they shelved the unit. Because this seems site specific to the ration of card failures 7 in 130 precincts and in general we had few across Florida and Georgia. Could the AV download unit cabled to the Host be problematic and if so should that be sent to McKinney for testing.
John
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: "Ian S. Piper"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:14:31 -0600
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to:
I believe that Steve Ricke has already made that request to John Haranzo.
Ian
* To:
* Subject: Re: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: "Steve Knecht"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:41:08 -0800
* References:
The Marin unit cabled to their main computer was the culprit of a majority of their failures as well. I just assumed the AV unit was bad and we sent it back to McKinney. Could it have something to do with a signal coming in from the DigiBoard or some voltage associated with a signal??
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: "John McLaurin"
* Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:36:23 -0500
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <003601c081b8$e66c59c0$72d8fc9e@default>
In Marin, did it sporadically corrupt cards?
* To:
* Subject: Re: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: "Steve Knecht"
* Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:08:04 -0800
* References:
Yes. During the primary in March, there were times on uploads where they would recount a precinct using a feeder in one room on a memory card, bring it to the computer room for upload - and it would corrupt when they brought it in (about 7 precincts I believe) and inserted it into the machine connected to the computer - on one precinct 3 times.
* To: support@gesn.com
* Subject: Re: Memory card checksum errors Seminole Cty.
* From: Guy Lancaster
* Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:54:05 -0800
* Organization: Global Election Systems Inc.
* References:
Steve Knecht wrote:
> The Marin unit cabled to their main computer was the culprit of a majority of their failures as well. I just assumed the AV unit was bad and we sent it back to McKinney. Could it have something to do with a signal coming in from the DigiBoard or some voltage associated with a signal??
>
No, it would take a lightning strike or similar coming across the serial cable from the DigiBoard to corrupt the memory card. ;-)
However there are things that can go wrong inside an Accu-Vote that can cause it to corrupt memory cards and/or crash (ISR, lockup*, random jump to a different prompt, etc). Thus I recommend a procedure of recording such events and if any single machine experiences 2 or more occurances over the course of an election, it's grounds for requiring service. Don't worry about a single occurance on a machine unless there is other evidence to suggest problems with that machine.
* Note that there are 2 different types of lockup. The most common seems to be that the older scanner units would lockup during operation but the AV itself is working fine. Recent firmware (since 1.94p/1.94f<) will display an error message if you hold the NO button for more than 3 seconds while the AV is waiting for another ballot in a count mode. If this works, the AV is working and it's the scanner unit itself that has locked up. I don't believe that scanner lockups can affect the memory card. Ian, when do scanner lockups indicate a need for service?
Guy
* To:
* Subject: RE: Memory card checksum errors (was: 2000 November Election)
* From: "Ken Clark"
* Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:42:50 -0600
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <011801c08195$f6781930$1404a8c0@gesn.com>
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Talbot Iredale
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:31 PM
Given that we transfer data in ascii form not binary and given the way the data was 'invalid' the error could not have occured during transmission. Therefore the error could only occur in one of four ways:
(2) Invalid read from good memory card. This is unlikely since the candidates results for the race are not all read at the same time and the corruption was limited to a single race. There is a possiblilty that a section of the memory card was bad but since I do not know anything more about the 'second' memory card I cannot validate this.
Not necessarily. We grab a pointer to the head of the candidate counters for a race and then keep that pointer as the base for the current race. If that base was bogus (pointing at code say) because of some hardware glitch, then we would just happily walk the race looking at garbage. Next race the pointer base is changed and everything is okay. Now, this is still all "unlikely", but then again this has never happened before.
(4) Invalid memory card (i.e. one that should not have been uploaded). There is always the possiblity that the 'second memory card' or 'second upload' came from an un-authorised source.
If this problem is to be properly answered we need to determine where the 'second' memory card is or whether it even exists.
Heh. Second shooter theory. All we need now is a grassy knoll.
Ken
Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship
CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate of fear and self-censorship."
As criticism of the war and its aftermath intensifies, Amanpour joins a chorus of journalists and pundits who charge that the media largely toed the Bush administrationline in covering the war and, by doing so, failed to aggressively question the motives behind the invasion.
On last week's Topic A With Tina Brown on CNBC, Brown, the former Talk magazine editor, asked comedian Al Franken, former Pentagon spokeswoman Torie Clarke and Amanpour if "we in the media, as much as in the administration, drank the Kool-Aid when it came to the war."
Said Amanpour: "I think the press was muzzled, and I think the press self-muzzled. I'm sorry to say, but certainly television and, perhaps, to a certain extent, my station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at Fox News. And it did, in fact, put a climate of fear and self-censorship, in my view, in terms of the kind of broadcast work we did."
Brown then asked Amanpour if there was any story during the war that she couldn't report.
"It's not a question of couldn't do it, it's a question of tone," Amanpour said. "It's a question of being rigorous. It's really a question of really asking the questions. All of the entire body politic in my view, whether it's the administration, the intelligence, the journalists, whoever, did not ask enough questions, for instance, about weapons of mass destruction. I mean, it looks like this was disinformation at the highest levels."
Clarke called the disinformation charge "categorically untrue" and added, "In my experience, a little over two years at the Pentagon, I never saw them (the media) holding back. I saw them reporting the good, the bad and the in between."
Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda."
CNN had no comment.
by Peter Johnson
© Copyright 2003 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.
NOTE: The entire article here is posted in spite of what some people claim as their interpretation of copyright law. I am posting it for historical documentation reasons. Often these articles are taken down or changed after they are written. By archiving it in this way I preserve the historical record that this was actually said without the author being able to later change the fact that it was said, I mean no copyright infringement or plagery - but I assert a right to archive news released on the internet for the purpose of historical preservation. I further assert that this article is presented as NEWS and that the very definition of NEWS is that you're supposed to tell people what you found out. News is an announcement and I am announcing it.
Letter to the Editor
Bush claims he is "open for suggestions" as to what to do about Iraq. Ok - I have a suggestion. Why don't we get out of Iraq and go after Bin Laden in Pakastan and go after the Saudi's who are backing him. But Bush isn't going to do that because he made a deal not to go after Bin Laden. Seems to me that if you are going to fight terror you should go after the real enemy rather than trying to pass laws taking away rights from Americans. That's my suggestion.
Reference: Times of India
Letter to the Editor
It's amazing what the public will believe. Bush wants 87 billion dollars more to fight "terrorism" in Iraq but Bin Laden remains free in Pakistan and no one is going after Saudi Araiba who funded the 9-11 terrorists. Bush is ignoring the real enemies who were behind the WTC plane crashes and going after a false enemy who had nothing to do with it. Still having found no weapons of mass destruction it raises the question - what the hell are we doing in Iraq anyhow? Before we continue the attack - maybe we should try to identify who the enemy is.
Reference: Times of India
Letter to the Editor
Now that the Bush administration is groveling before the United Nations begging them to take over in Iraq for his messed up war, (Still no weapons of mass distruction - Still no Saddam Hussein) makes we wonder if we are going to rename "Freedom Fries" back to "French Fries". As it turns out - they were right and we were wrong. Maybe Bush's rich friends should give back that upper class tax break to pay for this war.
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It's going to be interesting to watch Bush crawl back on his hands and knees begging the UN to forgive him. This is the price America will have to pay for allowing the Supreme Court to appoint a president other than the one elected by the people. Bush is a miserable failure.
Letter to the Editor
It would appear that the Bush Administration is positioning itself for an invasion of Venezuela next in it's phony war on terrorism. According to United Press International - a press organization controlled by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon (Moonies) - the FBI is accusing the oil rich nation of Venezuela of harboring al-Qaida terrorists. In the summer of 2000 Bush made an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the elected president and install one of his oil cronies in his place.
It interesting to note that although Bush talk tough on terrorism, that he is not going after Bin Laden. Only 2 months after 9-11 Bush struck a deal with Pakistan to let Bin Laden go free and get away with murdering 3000 Americans. We have already invaded Afghanistan and Iraq in a fake war on terror and now we are going to start a third fake war. I am ashamed to call myself an American.
References:
Bush Deal to let Bin Laden go Free
United Press International like the Washington Times is owned and controlled by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon who is the spiritual leader of the Moonie Cult.
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Analysis: Venezuela's Islamic links
By Martin Arostegui
Published 9/1/2003 4:11 PM
CARACAS, Venezuela, Sept. 1 (UPI) -- Intelligence agencies are investigating links between Islamic terrorist networks and the Venezuelan government. While U.S. counter terrorist efforts in Latin America have until now tended to concentrate on the "tri border area" of Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina, it's believed that al-Qaida suicide bombers could also be hiding in Venezuela.
Investigators name two Venezuelan based al-Qaida suspects: Hakim Mamad Al Diab Fatah who was deported from the U.S. on suspicion of involvement with the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and Rahaman Hazil Mohammed Alan who is jailed in the U.K. for smuggling an explosive device onto a British Airways flight. American and British officials complain that their investigations are stymied because the government of President Hugo Chavez has dismantled U.S.-trained intelligence units which tracked terrorist connections among the half-million strong Venezuelan Arab community.
Chavez has instead brought in Cuban and Libyan advisors to run his security services according to American, British and other European diplomatic officials in Caracas.
Although the U.S. State department does not yet consider Venezuela as a state sponsor of terrorism, FBI officials express concern over "a lack of cooperation on the part of Venezuelan authorities." Despite repeated requests, U.S. law enforcement agencies have received no satisfactory explanation on the whereabouts of Diab Fatah, Venezuelan ID 16104824, who is associated with Hani Hanjour, the hijacker of American Airlines flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon.
Fatah attended the same New Jersey flight school as the suicide team and talked about blowing up airliners. He was arrested in the U.S. shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks but was deported when official inquiries through the Venezuelan government turned up nothing on him other than psychiatric records.
The U.S. legal attaché in Caracas at the time, Hector Rodriguez, informed the Venezuelan Interior Ministry of Fatah's flight number and 8 March 2002 arrival time to request that he be detained for questioning. But to the amazement of American authorities, the Venezuelan government says that there is no record of Fatah ever re-entering the country.
Venezuelan National Guard General Marcos Ferreira, who headed the interior ministry's border control department and forwarded the FBI request to Deputy Interior Minister Luis A. Camacho on 5 March 2002, believes that Venezuela's security service or Directorate for Intelligence Security and Prevention is protecting Fatah.
"DISIP fetched him directly from the plane and took him to a safe house," Ferreira tells UPI.
There is no independent confirmation of this account and the Chavez government discredits Ferreira by claiming that the general was involved in a May 2002 coup plot against the government. But the Fatah mystery appears to fall into a developing pattern of Venezuelan state involvement with terrorism.
British law enforcement officials are similarly perplexed about a fragmentation grenade which got smuggled on board a British Airways flight in the luggage of another Venezuelan Arab as the plane stopped off in Caracas last February 13 on it way to London. Mohammed Alan who boarded the plane with Venezuelan passport BO974970 was arrested upon arrival at London's Gatwick airport when X ray machines detected the device in one of his bags.
Britain's main airports had been on a high security alert all that week following tip offs that a major terrorist attack was being planned.
"The Venezuelans can't explain how the grenade got past security screening but the fact of the matter is that it got on the plane," says a British diplomatic official in Caracas. Chavez has since turned down an offer by the British ambassador to provide counter terrorist experts to assist Venezuela's security services.
According to intelligence sources, the smuggled hand grenade's serial number corresponds to weapons stocks of the Caracas based 3rd army Division and could have been the detonating system for a larger bomb. An unconfirmed report says that a thin sheet of plastic explosive was embedded within the box containing the grenade which Mohammed took on board the aircraft.
An account of the incident published in the Venezuelan magazine Tal Cual maintains that the alleged kamikaze carried the device in a backpack which he brought on board as hand luggage. An air disaster was only averted because the flight crew transferred the bag to the plane's luggage hold when it proved too bulky to fit into the passenger section's overhead compartments.
"He could no longer detonate the bomb in midair as may have been the original plan," says a source quoted in the magazine.
Britain's Scotland Yard cannot officially comment on the case until Mohammed Alan's trial opens. There is still no scheduled date. But members of a detective team sent to Caracas are reported to be "less than satisfied" with information which Venezuela's interior ministry has provided on the terrorist suspect.
Venezuelan police officials speaking on condition of anonymity say that Mohammed's identity is manufactured and that members of his supposed family have connections with Chavez government circles. They could also be connected with a Hizbollah money laundering operation centred around the Banco Confederado on the resort island of Margarita which channels money into the establishments of several Arabs in Venezuela with known radical ties,
A U.S. trained Venezuelan intelligence officer who formed part of the disbanded counter terrorist unit, Section 11, tells UPI that Chavez has been withholding key intelligence from U.S. authorities about the head of Hizbollah's financial operation, Mohammed Al Din, a contributor to Chavez's presidential campaign.
The source says that his unit was eliminated while it was investigating suspicious cash transfers between the Banco Confederado and Lebanon during 2001. A Section 11 undercover agent was killed in Margarita where Diab Fatah has been recently spotted according to Intelligence officers. The island is considered a stronghold of Chavez's state sponsored militias, the Circulos Bolivarianos.
Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International
Letter to the Editor
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf struck a deal in December of 2001 with the US not to capture Osama Bin Laden, fearing this could lead to unrest in Pakistan. So - it turns out that the hunt for Bin Laden was all a sham and Bush has again sold out America by deciding to let the terrorists who destroyed the World Trade Center to go free. We went to war with Iraq supposedly because of terrorism and it turns out that Bush had given the terrorists a pass. Now we can't seem to find Saddam Hussein. Makes you wonder what kind of deal they made with him? For all we know Saddam and Osama might be living on Bush's ranch!
Reference: Times of India
Bush made Osama deal with Musharraf
IANS[ SATURDAY, AUGUST 23, 2003 06:49:05 PM ]
LONDON: Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has struck a deal with the US not to capture Osama Bin Laden, fearing this could lead to unrest in Pakistan, according to a special investigation by The Guardian.
The paper reported Saturday that Bin Laden was being protected by three elaborate security rings manned by tribesmen stretching 192 kms in diameter in northern Pakistan.
The paper's information is based on comments made by Mansoor Ijaz, an American of Pakistan origin who, the paper said, knows al-Qaeda better than most people and had close contacts in Pakistan's intelligence agencies.
Ijaz believed an agreement was reached between Musharraf and US authorities shortly after Bin Laden's flight from his stronghold Tora Bora in Afghanistan in December 2001.
The Pakistanis feared that to capture or kill Bin Laden so soon after a deeply unpopular war in Afghanistan would incite civil unrest in Pakistan and trigger a spate of revenge al-Qaida attacks on Western targets across the world.
"There was a judgment made that it would be more destabilising in the longer term. There would still be the ability to get him at a later date when it was more appropriate", Ijaz told The Guardian.
The Americans, according to Ijaz, accepted the argument, not least because of the shift in focus to the impending war in Iraq.
So the months that followed were centred on taking down not Bin Laden but the "retaliation infrastructure" of al-Qaeda.
It meant that Musharraf frequently put out conflicting accounts of the status of Bin Laden, while the US administration barely mentioned his name.
In January last year Musharraf said he believed Bin Laden was probably dead. A year later he said he was alive and moving either in Afghanistan or perhaps in the Pakistani tribal areas.
"Yet Western diplomats say they believe the Pakistani authorities are committed to the hunt for Bin Laden, although they admit that frequently the official accounts of the timing and location of successful arrests do not square with reality," the report stated.
"Pakistan must now end the charade and get Bin Laden... With so much of the retaliation infrastructure gone or unsustainable, Bin Laden's martyrdom does not pose nearly the threat it did a year ago," Ijaz told the paper.
According to Ijaz, Bin Laden is hiding in the "northern tribal areas", part of the long belt of seven deeply conservative tribal agencies which stretch down the length of the mountain ranges that mark Pakistan's winding border with Afghanistan.
The paper said that Ijaz, who recently visited Pakistan, believed that Bin Laden was protected by an elaborate security cordon of three concentric circles, in which he is guarded first by a ring of tribesmen, whose duty is to report any approach by Pakistani troops or US Special Forces.
Inside them is a tighter ring, around 19 km in diameter, made up of tribal elders who would warn if the outer ring were breached.
At the centre of the circles is Bin Laden himself, protected by one or two of his closest relatives and advisers.
Bin Laden has reportedly agreed with the elders' argument that he will use no electronic communications but handwritten notes, and will move only at night and between specified places within a limited radius.
Pakistani Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat told the daily: "We have been getting reports of his presence across the border inside Afghanistan and along the border area also.
"Not all reports have been credible at times. If others were credible, we would certainly have been able to get near to him but certainly that has not been the position so far."
Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general and security analyst said: "I think the Americans find their reliance on the Pakistanis is now increasing."
It turns out that Arnold Schwarzenegger met with Enron's Kenny Boy Lay and other Republican superstars to help plan the fake energy crisis and drive up utility costs. Now he wants to be governor. Arnold should be in jail.
From Salon Magazine:
Exerpt:
Joe Conason's Journal
When Arnold Schwarzenegger gets around to attacking Gov. Gray Davis for the state's energy fiasco, someone should ask why he appointed Pete Wilson his campaign chairman.
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Aug. 11, 2003 | Arnold's secret meeting with Kenny Boy
If you're compiling a list of public figures even less popular in California than Gray Davis, one name is likely to top it: former Enron chairman Kenneth "Kenny Boy" Lay. Voters in the Golden State are behaving like sheep these days, but even the dimmest of them can probably remember how Enron and the other corporate vultures descended on them during the electricity "crisis" of 2001.
What California voters may no longer remember, however, is that after the third wave of rolling blackouts hit their state, Kenny Boy quietly summoned a select group to the Beverly Hills Hotel on May 11, 2001. And they may also have forgotten that one of the prominent Republicans who showed up at Lay's request was Arnold Schwarzenegger.
On June 21, 2001, the Associated Press reported that "Lay met secretly with California Republicans at the Beverly Hills Hotel and pushed a plan that called for ratepayers to pay the billions in debt racked up by the state's public utilities. The plan contended that federal investigations of price gouging are hindering the situation." According to William Bradley, the L.A. Weekly's sharp political columnist who wrote about Enron for the American Prospect, the meeting revolved around Lay's plans to "preserve deregulation" in California. The L.A. Times noted that Lay was seeking the support of Schwarzenegger and the other GOP luminaries for even greater deregulation. Apparently Lay wanted help in saving a lousy system, squeezing the unfortunate Californians even more, and avoiding accountability for their plight.
Letter to the Editor
In 2000 and 2001 California had a major energy crisis because several big energy companies like Enron gamed the system and created artificial energy shortages. The high energy prices were devastating to the California economy - but Davis managed to see us through it and get new power plants online. But what would happen if an actor like Arnold Schwarzenegger were governor and we had an energy crisis? What would Arnold do?
Isn't that the real question facing the voters of California? In an environment where all of America under the Bush administration is on the verge of economic collapse, you do you trust to get us through the tough times? Shouldn't California have a governor who knows what he's doing rather than an actor who is merely playing a role? What would Arnold do?
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When it comes down to it, that is the real question. Maybe I could get in touch with the right people in the Davis camp and help them get the right message out. Modeled after the slogan "What would Jesus Do?" it raises the real issue which is - what does it mean for California if we hire an actor to play governor? Can we afford to do that?
Will this be California's new governor? The kind of guy the Christian religious right can get behind. Arnold is a briliant man with briliant ideas. But just exactly what they are is somewhat illusive. As with all Republicans it's all about power and money. Arnold doesn't have to have any ideas because the moonies are already working on his script - as well as the script for the news media's journalist actors. Arnold is an actor - not a writer!
Bush Says Schwarzenegger Would Be 'Good Governor'. Boy - that's reassuring! The shame of it all is that Grey Davis really is a good governor. But after Bush's buddies - like Kenny Boy from Enron - started gaming the energy market by creating artificial energy shortages destroyong the economy of the western states, it's amazing Gray Davis managed to keep the lights on at all. And then there's good ole Ross Perot who sold the software to the energy companies to create the shortages in the first place - and he's talking about running for president again. What a world!
I'm voting to keep Davis - but in the alternative I'm leaning towards Larry Flint. He's the free speech candidate.
What a difference a president makes. This chary outlines the number of jobs created (or lost) under the last three presidents. Each president is started at sero at the beginning of their term.
For those who say that it doesn't matter who is president and that the president doesn't make a difference - here's the chart. Looks to me like who the president is makes a difference. I remember when Clinton was president Greenspan was hiking the interest rates to slow down the economy that was "overheating" and that the jobless rate was too low. Now look where we are. That's what happens when America accepts a pathetic loser as president who was never elected in the first place.
Are the Jews becoming what they hate?
The Berlin wall represented terror and oppression. It was a relic of World War II and the world cheered when it came down. Now Israel is building one and it is an abomination to peace and a shame to the Jewish Religion. This wall represents the failure of peace and is a monument to everything that is wrong with religion.
It is called a "security fence" which is a lie. The fact that the news media won't call it what it is reflects the amount of control that Israel has over the Bush administration and the amount of control Republicans have over the American press. What do you see here? Is this a fence or a wall?
This is disturbing on a number of levels. First - you would have thought that the Jews would have learned something from the Holocaust, but apparently they did not. Those who have been preaching "never forget" have already forgotten. And if they have forgotten - then why should anyone else remember? Well - we should remember - because the Holocaust was wrong - but this is wrong too in much the same way because it's roots come from the same place.
The Jews think that they are God's chosen people. but they aren't. Jews are just people just like everyone else. What they haven't grasped is that it's not OK for them to persecute others and that they have to show respect for other people's rights and beliefs if they expect to have their bizzare rights and beliefs respected.
Sure - the Palistinians are as bad or worse than the Israelies. But that doesn't justify Israel building a Berlin wall. I personally consider this wall to be a crime against humanity and I call for its removal. Furthermore, Israel has far too much influence in the United States and not in a positive way. It used to be positive intil the extremists siezed control of Israel by fanatical right wing Jews who want war because they are better than everyone else.
But I do support civil unions - somewhat
There are several reasons for this and I'm not going to go into them all here. I do believe in civil unions for gay couples who want to bring the state and lawyers into their relationship (be careful what you ask for as they say - you might get it) - but marriage? No.
What's happening in the debate is the battle of the fuzzy lines. And it takes little effort to make the lines fuzzy. For example - a heterosexual couple gets married and one gets a sex change - are they still legally married? Yes. Or - why should non-reproducing heterosexuals be allowed to marry but gays aren't? Why shouldn't I be allowed to marry my sister if I've had a vasectomy? Or marry my father? Or marry my sister and my father? Where do you draw the line?
I draw the line where the line has always be drawn. A marriage is between heterosexuals. Even though I am a non-reproducing male, there really is a biological reason that people get married and everyone on the planet (well - science has blurred that line too) is a result of heterosexual relationships. So the concept of marriage is rooted in reproduction and raising children. Quite frankly - if I were to move the line on marriage - it would be the other way - to restrict it to families with children.
There is more of an agenda here in the gay marriage issue than just gay marriages. There is the question of - is a gay relationship "normal". And the answer to that is clearly no - it is not normal. It is in fact abnormal. And that's what a lot of this debate is all about - the issue of what is normal and what is not.
Having said that it's abnormal - how abnormal is it? Well - it's not really very abnormal. For those who were "born gay" which I do believe that most gays are born that way - it's a physical birth defect. It's equivalent to a hormone imbalance. It's less serious that something like juvenile diabetes. It is far less socially deviant that someone who is a cigarette smoker for example. So - on the scale of what is normal - it's somewhat abnormal but not as abnormal as smokers.
Back to the politics and the fuzzy lines. The real issues behind the issues of gay marriage and gays in the military (something you don't hear about since Bush became president) is how do we treat these people and how do we all get along together in society? Gay people have relationship - fall in love - and want to be together and feel normal - or relatively normal - without being harassed for who they are. The problem is that everyone - including gay - wants to treat it as a right or wrong issue. For both sides it all or none and both sides are dead wrong on that point.
Sexuality is a fuzzy line problem. Both sides of the debate are going to have to lighten up. Yes - it is abnormal. If you are gay and you are arguing that there is no difference between a gay relationship and a straight relationship - you are wrong. However - if you are anti-gay and you think that anyone who engages in sodomy should be put in prison - you're dead wrong too. I can't seem to make a good argument that anal sex between a man and a woman is morally different than anal sex between two men. The bottom line is - being gay is a defect - but it's not a serious defect. It abnormal - but not so abnormal to make a big deal over.
One of the big problems in this debate is the politics of it. The issue of gay marriage for gays caries symbolism. They were persecuted as children and have felt that they are inferior. Now they are coming back and declaring that they are not inferior that they are the same as everyone else and that the marriage issue has become a metaphor for getting society to declare them normal. That somehow if they are allowed to get married that all their self doubts and self image problems will go away.
On the other hand - heterosexuals are concerned that once gay marriage is allowed then children are going to be raised thinking that there's no difference between heterosexual and homosexual relationships and that straight kids will be taught to be gay. And they have somewhat of a point here. What we teach children is an issue and what the extremists on both sides are promoting is dead wrong. But that's a different rant.
So - I do have to agree however that gay marriage dilutes the meaning of marriage and denies the reality that there really is a distinction. For the purposes of equality however - and in recognition that although it's abnormal it's not that abnormal - that civil unions be allowed so that gay couples can adopt children - make medical decisions for their spouse - and have survivors rights and such.
Having said that - there really is no such thing as marriage anymore really. The institution of marriage is a fraud. Marriage is supposed to be a lifelong commitment to a relationship and if you get divorced - you're breaking that commitment. You can't go to the government and have the court enforce the lifelong commitment part of the marriage contract - but they will enforce the mutual property part - taking away everything you both own and giving it to a pair of greedy lawyers.
Marriage is really just a really bad property contract. If you've ever been through the divorce process you would never want to be married. And the bottom line is - gays are lucky they are protected from government abuse. If you have never experienced it - divorce lawyers and judges are corrupt beyond belief. If I told you how bad it really is - you would not believe me. If you look at it objectively it as bad as being in the military under Bush. Is this something you really want if you really knew what it was your asking for? It's not.
You don't need the approval of the government to have a relationship. If you want to have a relationship that the government or the church doesn't approve of then just do it and tell everyone who doesn't like it to get fucked.
My advice to gays is - don't depend on others for your sense of self approval because it just doesn't work. Just decide - so - I'm a little abnormal - so what. Why make it a big deal? Don't complain and don't explain.
In fact - if you really want to know why it is that straight guys don't like gay guys - it's not the sexual behavior - it's the god damn whining. Yes - gays are oppressed but not nearly as much as blacks and women are and the more you whine about it - the more irritated people become with you. I can accept bizzare sexual conduct because I really don't give a damn about what other people do sexually. It really doesn't bother me. But it's the whining about it. I can't deal with that. I don't want to be part of your self acceptance problems.
Conversely - those who judge gays as immoral based on their religious beliefs have a far more serious problem to deal with because extreme religion is a serious form of mental illness and is a far more serious problem than being gay.
Summary of Points:
1) Marriage is based on our heritage of reproduction and family gay marriage makes the definition of marriage meaningless.
2) Being Gay is abnormal - but not as abnormal as smoking or extreme religion.
3) Gays should not use this issue as a metaphor for their own self acceptance issues.
4) The institution of marriage is a fraud and not sane person who truly understood how corrupt the courts are would ever get married in the first place.
Letter to the Editor
It now appears the government of Saudi Arabia, not Iraq, was behind the 9-11 attack. According to an article in the LA Times, people who have read the 28 pages that were blacked out are saying that "the Saudi government that not only provided significant money and aid to the suicide hijackers but also allowed potentially hundreds of millions of dollars to flow to al-Qaida and other terrorist groups through suspect charities and other fronts." The sources quoted say there was "direct involvement of senior (Saudi) government officials in a coordinated and methodical way directly to the hijackers, as well as very direct, very specific links that cannot be passed off as rogue, isolated or coincidental."
If Saudi Arabia was behind this then the people of America have a right to know. We can not allow the Bush administration to conceal the identities of the people what are truly behind the worst terrorist act in the history of America.If we don't find out what happened - then how can we prevent a 9-11 from happening again? I call on everyone to demand full disclosure. We have a right to know.
Link to Source:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-na-saudi2aug02,1,4474000.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Sure wasn't expecting a blonde - and a good looking one to! Maybe I should get my vasectomy reversed and fix Saddam up with some grandchildren.
Seriously though - I'm glad she's safe so that Bush doesn't murder her. Bush is obcessed with killing Saddam's family.
Letter to the Editor
It's very disturbing that the leader of our country - and in the name of America - parades around the dead bodies of Saddam Hussein's sons. Let's even assume that they are truly evil men - does that sound like what the leader of a "civilized" country is supposed to do? I think not. It's more the kind of thing that terrorists themselves do.
The problem is that it sets an example that this kind of behavior is ok. It inspires the other terrorists in the world to do the same thing. It escalates the hate - especially the hate directed at Americans. And it puts us all in danger.
For example - I sure wouldn't want to be Bush's daughters because after you kill two sons of you enemy and parade their corpses around and brag about cutting off the bloodline - you just invited every terrorist nut out there to kill your kids and parade the corpses around. Of course - Bush doesn't think that far ahead. But Bush's kids will never be free to just live their lives in peace because Bush sacrificed their peace for a cheap publicity stunt.
Now that his daughters are voting age - make you wonder who they are going to vote for for president. Bet it ain't daddy!
Letter to the Editor
Despite renewed warnings about possible airline hijackings, the Transportation Security Administration has told federal air marshals that starting August 1st they will no longer be protecting any cross-country or international flights, The decision to drop coverage on flights that many are the highest risk of attack is to save the expense of staying overnight in hotels. Update training for marshals was also suspended. The reason - no money.
I sure hope that the rich are enjoying their tax cut because now we don't have any money to fly the rich around safely. They got their big tax cut - but at the price of putting our nation at risk. And Bush better pray no planes without marshals are hijacked because if they are it's going to look like he deliberately allowed it to happen.
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Bush says the he sees a "real threat" of another plane attack according to This Yahoo Story. The info for the letter came from This MSNBC Story. So - if Bush blows up another plane - you heard it hear first.
Bush is slipping in the polls. He needs some terrorism to boost his numbers. Too bad he shut down plans for his terrorism futures market - a pentagon project where people bet on future terrorism and assassinations. I think I could have made some $$$ on this one. And if it does happen - you heard it here first.
Seriously though - I send these letter to about 1200 newspapers and it makes me wonder if Bush is planning a terrorist attack and at the last minute they see one of my letters printed and decide - oh shit - we can't do it now - Perkel has already published it. I have this fantasy that by seeing what appears to be a setup and calling it before it happens that I am actually preventing it from happening.
Like in this case for example. We have a ruthless dictator for a president who stole the election and will stop at nothing to maintain power. He is falling in the polls because the country is going to hell and people are beginning to wake up a little from their denial and are saying "Oh FUCK!" So bush needs a distraction and terrorism is his theme.
Think abou this - which is worse? Here are the facts: We have a terrorism aleart that planes are about to be attacked. Bush is talking like it's a very credible threat. And at the same time they pull the sky marshals off the very planes that are the most prime targets for the attack. What does that tell you?
A) The entire administration is incredibly stupid.
B) This is a deliberate government sponsored terrorist event being set up.
Whichever one it is - it is bad new for America. But what scares me even more - where is the news media? Am I the only person that's figured this out? Is this a country of fucking morons? This is a country in really deep denial and we are in a lot of trouble.
Letter to the Editor
I'm not sure which is more disturbing - the fact that Saudi Arabia bankrolled the 9-11 attack - or that the Bush administration wants to conceal that Saudi Arabia was behind the attack by blacking out pages in the 9-11 report. 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, None were from Iraq. Did we go to war with the wrong country?